h2-discussion

[split shuttle]

doing it in the middle of a run is crazy tho

[verbal rampart]

It's also the cutest

[split shuttle]

imagine being 1 hp no dds at all and then u just decided to do it with nem

[vernal quarry]

Yeah it’s really sweet

[vernal quarry]

That’ll get her reenergised

[split shuttle]

it wouldve been so funny if after u did it with nem u have refilled dds and full health to show how energized u are after that

[hearty idol]

I'm still waiting for the Steam profile special for Hades II

[verbal rampart]

The little "Wow" made me laugh so hard

[vernal quarry]

Lmao

[split shuttle]

heres the real question tho: which romance scene is the worst

[verbal rampart]

Eris. Because...ok, how is Melinoe even attracted to her? It doesn't make sense : Melinoe is furious at Eris. Yeah sure she is pretty but that's...it.

[split shuttle]

my headcanon is that the romance scene is basically angry sex

[pallid cradle]

Correct

[fair patrol]

huntress?

[split shuttle]

the arcana card

[dense axle]

Honestly Eris reminds me of jinx from arcane a lot

[fair patrol]

also
collousus diver
posseed array
or rapid diver
i'm using meda skull

[dense axle]

Like personality wise

[pallid cradle]

Arcana card that gives you more damage when you have less than 100% of your total magick.

[fair patrol]

pls help

[tranquil wren]

atp you should try experimenting on your own lol

[pallid cradle]

Possessed array. However actually playing the game and making choices to learn is a good decision too

[fair patrol]

I've ben stuck on this for 20 minutes

[tranquil wren]

that's your own fault

[limpid oar]

At that point just roll some dice to decide

[fair patrol]

wait so whenever I use a special it also does omega attack?

[pallid cradle]

Tbh if you want the "I win" button on Medea. Just start Zeus keepsake, take his special, and then proceed to spam the attack/special combo.

It's probably the most broken thing in Hades 2. After that just make sure you take an attack that applies another curse to proc your origination.

[pallid cradle]

Whenever you recover a skull it casts your omega attack like it says on the hammer description.

So basically yes, since your special recovers your used skulls.

[white tartan]

Hello, does Hermes' "chance based effects" include crit chance? (Success rate boon)

[pallid cradle]

From every source except Raki, yes

[white tartan]

Thankyou!

[pallid cradle]

[limpid oar]

Does the game actually tell you about the Raki thing? I only know it because I've seen it somewhere (I think patch notes)

[tepid wren]

raki is a tasty drink

[heavy glen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hades2/comments/1o720gk/turned_down_the_music_in_settings_and_this_popped/

[pallid cradle]

Nope. You had to see the patch notes otherwise you wouldn't know. I'm pretty sure for a while even after that patch in EA we figured out it was still "bugged" and Raki was benefitting from it. Whether that's still the case or not, I'm not sure.

[verbal rampart]

Marvellous

[buoyant matrix]

so how do i advance silk and spitefulness? took gorgon amulet to arachne and nothing happened

[fair patrol]

get spool fragments

[pallid cradle]

🤔

That's how you advance it from what I remember. You didn't get dialogue about ||Scylla wasn't ready to talk to Athena yet|| because that stupid thing happens.

[tepid wren]

silksong is leaking

[tranquil wren]

wait really? did athena tell you that she would visit arachne next time you had her keepsake when meeting her?

[buoyant matrix]

no idea idk

[fair patrol]

shaw

[pallid cradle]

bro mashed through the dialogue on some true caveman status.

[buoyant matrix]

oh no she didn't

[tranquil wren]

yea she needs to say that first I think

[buoyant matrix]

smh my head guess I'll do a surface run

[pallid cradle]

I'm pretty sure I got that dialogue by equipping it in fields and talking to her a few times to exhaust her dialogue about the absolutely flawless and perfect ending to Hades 2 the video game.

[tranquil wren]

you know that meme where the guy stands up in the crowd and says something daring and controversial? that's how I feel when I say I like the ending as much as I liked H1's

[pallid cradle]

The ending is bad, the epilogue is even worse, but man Mel feels real good to play as so I'm still gonna keep playing the game.

[tranquil wren]

the epilogue is peak. I loved speaking to hecate and prometheus afterwards

[pallid cradle]

I made it through borderlands 3's campaign. Nothing can hurt me anymore.

[verbal rampart]

Shaded the Chad

[pallid cradle]

Don't hype me up for that mistake.

[tranquil wren]

I never got into BL because the story and gameplay was pretty uninteresting

[fair patrol]

who will go home? me or eris

[split shuttle]

the epilogue tackled the topic of gods being bad towards mortals but they did it kinda bad i have to say

[pallid cradle]

I can't believe ||the fates retired|| before LeBron.

[split shuttle]

plus neither the epilogue nor the true ending ever like yk actually resolved this conflict well

even more so with death to chronos

[fair patrol]

I DID IT ERIS

[verbal rampart]

The gods are still as arrogant, and the status quo has been preserved. Meh.

[verbal rampart]

Cool! Now let's see how you manage Mount Olympus

[pallid cradle]

Congratulations. Your reward for beating Eris is probably the hardest region in Hades 2.

[tranquil wren]

they won't have any influence in the new golden age though

[split shuttle]

i dont mind a ||redemption arc for chronos|| as long as its done well but they handled it poorly

[tranquil wren]

so they can be arrogant and awful only to themselves

[pallid cradle]

I say "probably" like it's up for debate. Mount Olympus is 100% the hardest region in the game.

[tranquil wren]

I never understood the whole "preserving the status quo" thing tbh. prometheus ||engineered it so that they can't have any influence anymore||, leaving ||mortals to be in peace||. the gods can only ever be awful ||to other gods now||, which is a fitting punishment I would think

[pallid cradle]

I called it in early access that ||Zagreus|| was gonna ruin the story somehow. I'm glad SGG validated me.

[split shuttle]

||his talk-no-jutsu is more powerful than any weapon or person in the entire game, somebody nerf him||

[pallid cradle]

Mf is literally a Bard. Maxed out charisma and said "roll those dice"

Sorry, I've been playing a bit of Baldur's Gate 3

[split shuttle]

||i dont mind the zag man being zag but meli needs to learn the lesson for herself||

[fair patrol]

noo I died

[verbal rampart]

The point is : confrontation. Confront the gods on their horrible behaviour

[pallid cradle]

Welcome to Mount Olympus. I'd get used to it

[tranquil wren]

I never set up my expectations to be that way so I guess I never got burnt when that inevitably did not happen

but imo none of the pre v1.0 ending content led me to believe ||mel would ever fight against the gods in any capacity as she needs their help to defeat chronos ||

[split shuttle]

||mel is a certified god glazer istg||

[tranquil wren]

nah you should see what happens when she dies in an olympian trial

[split shuttle]

ive never died in a trial cuz im just that goated

[plain remnant]

No, idk why people thought Mel would be pushed that far against the Olympians.
I feel like the story had a justified enough approach by using Hades in the ending to say "none of the gods deserve vengeance, so don't kill chronos in my name"

[pallid cradle]

I was mainly disappointed because the whole story was written in a way where her entire life was dedicated to destroying Chronos. Then ||Zagreus pulls a Zagreus and uses the power of friendship to win over Chronos changing an entire timeline without her even knowing.|| The only person who has a correct response to that ending is Hecate.

Then we spent all of early access waiting to see what happened with the Fates just to end up ||having to do one of the most tedious prophecy grinds in Hades history just for them to announce their retirement to the public||

Gameplay- 11/10
Story- can I give lower than 0?

[verbal rampart]

"Lower than 0" I admit I laughed

[plain remnant]

This doesn't even mention the red herring that was hypnos.

[tranquil wren]

H1 epilogue was just as tedious imo

[verbal rampart]

A joke told at the expense of the player. It's like they wanted us to be angry

[pallid cradle]

I don't wanna talk about it. That part made me even madder.

Bro just ||woke up and headed out||

Ended up being completely useless to the plot

[plain remnant]

I'm gonna be honest, I'm content and even liked the ending.

I hated the hypnos thing. He's not even a character in the game, if he was removed nothing, nothing at all would change

[fair patrol]

is black coat good

[plain remnant]

Fml they did remove him!! He's not their any more

[pallid cradle]

This has to be how the average CoD fan feels. "Why even bother with the story?"

[verbal rampart]

I mean both Hecate and Chronos say that he is useless.

[tranquil wren]

bro you're gonna need to find that out on your own

[pallid cradle]

Mainly because the black coat is probably the most controversial weapon in Hades 2 on whether you like it or not (I think it needed to be reworked entirely or removed before early access ended. Neither happened)

[split shuttle]

what would be the ideal rework tho

[pallid cradle]

A new 6th weapon tbh

[tranquil wren]

why is the black coat controversial? it's a fun weapon

[split shuttle]

nyx coat is still pretty fun tho

[pallid cradle]

Come play black coat we have diet coke Zag Fists, the worse of the 2 sprint based aspects, special spam.aspect, bargain brand Eris Rail

[jolly hound]

get Zeus chain lightning you win

[merry iris]

yeah its fun i love my shiva aspect and dealing 10k dmg with one charged omega attack

[fair patrol]

guys zeus is carrying

hevaen strike

[pallid cradle]

Discovering Zeus. Wait till you discover King's Ransom

[fair patrol]

I did

[pallid cradle]

Don't shotgun that duo. Make sure you stack up Hera boons to at least 3-4 (at least what I do) then make sure you have double strike from Zeus. That's how you full value it.

[fair patrol]

herrah refuses to appear

[round token]

is the ||zagreus|| fight from parchment hard? just got it for the first time on 2nd stage and idk if im throwing my run by picking it

[tranquil wren]

he's got a relatively basic moveset but he deals a lot of damage

[split shuttle]

that fight is basically ripoff hades fight

[pallid cradle]

You ever fight Charon in Hades 1? I'd honestly say he's probably a bit easier.

[pallid cradle]

... Yanno I never really thought about it until you said it. I'm now a little more disappointed with 1.0 and you saw my story opinions above

At least Mel is fun to play. That's what I'm gonna keep telling myself.

[fair patrol]

asphodel?

[tranquil wren]

it's because he's wielding gigaros

[fair patrol]

this area sucks

[pallid cradle]

I mean, the moveset is pretty similar too now that I think about it.

[tranquil wren]

because it's a spear

[pallid cradle]

True

[split shuttle]

it wouldve been sick if ||zags second phase was basically ripoff em4 hades p3||

[round token]

wtf 😭 that damage

[merry iris]

or he just copies all your boons and use the equivalent for them with gigaros he is holding

[split shuttle]

if he has demeters attack melis done for

[tranquil wren]

that makes no sense narratively at all

[jaunty basin]

have you considered not cooking again

[pallid cradle]

Get hit by the spin attack?

Tbh that's the only attack that I think really hits ridiculously hard.

[safe falcon]

Rivals Surface 4 isn’t very fun, eh? ||I got it first try but kid Mel controls differently and it’s not super pleasant to learn a whole new control scheme that late under such pressure - her dodge distance seems shorter||

[pallid cradle]

It's probably the laziest rivals fight.

[split shuttle]

i wonder what rivals typhon wouldve looked like if the main gimmick was actually good

[round token]

yeah, kinda sucks that he spams it becouse mel is a caster 😭

[split shuttle]

chronos appearing and his moveset i dont mind, but the main problem is babality

[pallid cradle]

You can i-frame it. It comes out pretty fast (at least with frenzy 2)

[tranquil wren]

I thought babality was the second easiest part of the fight

[split shuttle]

babality just feels like a copout compared to rivals chronos p3

[pallid cradle]

It would look like Rivals Chronos.

A good EM4

[long goblet]

Anyone know where I can find a good picture of the magick pentacle?

[split shuttle]

now that i think about it, what would be a good gimmick for rivals typhon

[long goblet]

Fight the whole monster

[round token]

just make him use 2 attacks at once

or have one of his body parts in the arena the entire fight

[fair patrol]

Spirits of Despair, begone!

[pallid cradle]

As terrifying as this would be there's no way he'd even fit on the screen.

[long goblet]

Big arena to fight in, maybe the palace of Zeus, while you run around

[pallid cradle]

True

[split shuttle]

how would the gods react tho or do we ignore them entirely

[safe falcon]

I got the ||babality|| the first time no problem but it turns out learning a new movement set at that stage of the game is very dumb, if things go slightly wrong it’s real bad

The ||chronos|| part is fun tho

[round token]

vor uh-oh when

[fair patrol]

gona fight chronos again

[split shuttle]

wait hear me out, after typhon is defeated, chronos transports meli to the palace of zeus but destroyed (minvis idea) and then typhon appears (lets assume this is an alternative timeline where typhon has defeated the gods and overthrown them), am i cooking?

[pallid cradle]

I mean.

[teal zephyr]

Honestly Chronos shouldn't have even been a part of rivals Typhon, it should have been Echidna or something

[fair patrol]

an I died

[vernal quarry]

Lmao

[jaunty basin]

knuckles?

[devout cairn]

they should've turned typhon into a hot normal sized monster human

[white tartan]

there a guide on which aspects to choose for the weapons?

[devout cairn]

now that's a good idea i just had

[jaunty basin]

you pick one and if you don't like it you pick the other later

[white tartan]

its not like in hades 1 where im limited by the amount of resources?

[jaunty basin]

you do need to get resources but it's much faster than in h1

[white tartan]

thx

[tribal yew]

||Anubis|| staff with Hestia melts

[fair patrol]

who can you give bath salts to

[devout cairn]

odysseus, icarus, moros, eris, nem, hecate and dora

[tribal yew]

Pretty much everyone. Check out if the heart in your book has a picture of salts though

[fair patrol]

even zeus?

[tribal yew]

*everyone in crossroads

[fair patrol]

NOT AGAIN WHY ASPOHDEL

best way to upgrade a keepsake?

[fresh kelp]

GUYS I DID IT I BEAT TYPHON WITH THE COAT

[fair patrol]

quickly

[dry moon]

Whats everyone's opinion on weapons in H2 vs H1???? The higher heat I do the more I feel like the weapons in H2 are more limited

[hasty lotus]

Damn, it isn't like Zeus to turn down an offer like that. Are we sure that it is actually Zeus?

[austere oxide]

Hi, I'm doing a Chaos Trial which requires the Engraved Pin. I activated it but wasn't able to clear 'Doom' in time and died. How does it work exactly? (is it damage dealt?)

[velvet cave]

You have to clear the room before the timer is up. If you do you get health back and get the pin back for the next room

[austere oxide]

Clear the whole room? Wow! OK - thanks for the advice.

[velvet cave]

You get it back for every room assuming you can meet those conditions so it’s a very good keepsake. You don’t use any death defiances if you succeed

[gusty nebula]

idk they seem about the same to me

[austere oxide]

I will experiment with it. Thanks!

[velvet cave]

H2 is much better overall. H1 I had a few favorites and stuck with them. Hades 2 I feel like I can use anything and not only succeed, but have fun too

[latent flower]

Does the time vow's timer pause when selecting boons or dialoguing with npc?

[austere oxide]

Yes it does!

[gusty nebula]

I'm pretty sure it does

[austere oxide]

While fishing and collecting resources too. It is very fair.

[latent flower]

Nice, good to know

[gusty nebula]

honestly for most runs I don't see any reason to not enable it on the first tier

but maybe I'm playing more aggressively than most people do

[rugged current]

Do I need to do something specific to get to fight Charybdis in Thessaly ? I've done at least 15 olympus runs and I have never seen her once, so I can't unlock the next Vow of Rivals tier

It's starting to become annoying...

[fair patrol]

scylla and the sirens is such a good fight

[umbral yarrow]

no, just rng, im 100+ runs in and i never found the other warden...last prophecy i have left lol

[rugged current]

well, i'm just very unlucky then... sucks

[hasty ocean]

You'd think they'd force Charybdis at some point since she's a pre-req for Rivals and a bunch of dialog... alas

[pallid cradle]

It's completely RNG

[rugged current]

damn. yeah, a way to force her would've be nice in this situation

[tropic monolith]

there's a couple trials of chaos in the rift, running into chary there should do it and would at least be faster to smash through until you finally do

but imo they really should have had chary be a forced encounter because leaving actual progression (rivals) to full rng is awful

[rugged current]

Oh yeah, didn't think of that lmao, thanks for reminding me

[umbral yarrow]

on a similar note, once again, i'm 100+ nights in and i still havent managed to progress the narcissus and echo storyline, i met them every time i had the chance in every single run, echo has exhausted all dialogues a while ago and narcissus is giving me just pointless ones but still with the exclamation mark, is there anything else im missing to trigger them?

[tropic monolith]

you've gifted echo as far as you can? (The gift option shows up after dialogue)

[umbral yarrow]

i can't gift echo at all

[nocturne grove]

Has anyone had any bugs with aim assist?

[tropic monolith]

it tends to be stickier than I'd like, not sure what bugs you mean though

[nocturne grove]

Sometimes melinoe just turns behind her and shoots no matter what

[pallid cradle]

Is there a prophecy or something that requires charybdis? I don't remember that one.

[umbral yarrow]

echo is not even on my book yet

[teal zephyr]

You can, talk to her first and then gift

[tropic monolith]

that's what you're missing

[teal zephyr]

Can't gift before talking and taking her boon

[umbral yarrow]

if this is the mistake i made for 100 nights straight im retiring..

[teal zephyr]

Quite a few get puzzled by it so you're not alone

[pallid cradle]

I made the mistake for 500 hours. You're definitely not alone.

[tropic monolith]

I've not had it specifically that bad but yeah I've had similar with the autoaim, it doesn't pay as much attention to the direction you're holding as it should

[ivory juniper]

People not getting chary for 100 nights is wild! I get them every other time it seems... rng is whack

[umbral yarrow]

thing is i played another save in early access and i finished their storyline, so i also forgot with time ahahah

[fair patrol]

does when you use medea special with skulls does it count as special or attack

[nocturne grove]

Theres the stupid guy with the gun whos also immune to armor breaking hammers for some reason

Or he has so much armor that they just dont mean much

[tropic monolith]

took me a lot of runs to find that guy

[umbral yarrow]

i got that warden twice in 200 combined nights split in 2 saves

[stark vine]

anybody know what makes the elysium fight spawn? it stopped spawning for some time for me already.

[tropic monolith]

rift just has really low miniboss rate

[tropic monolith]

mid-area shops, 40%ish chance each. Only happen in the underworld area 1/2 or upper world 2/3

[umbral yarrow]

seems to be another totally rng thing, so far it doesnt seem to me that the vows alter the %

[stark vine]

so, bad luck then. had like 8 runs never seeing it.

[tropic monolith]

yeah that can happen, unfortunately

it's just like the charon fight in 1

[umbral yarrow]

you sure its only mid? i recall having it in ephyra once (?)

[stark vine]

annoyed that I cant finish the storylines of arachne cause it wont progress and that stadium because it stopped spawning.

[tropic monolith]

I'm not completely sure, but I've never seen it at an end shop

[stark vine]

can the elysium fight spawn in chaos trials?

[umbral yarrow]

i think it doesnt spawn last shop cause it would be pointless

[stark vine]

i love the bonus items the elysium bonus gives.

[umbral yarrow]

yeah but if you fight last shop there's no other shop to get free stuff from 👀

[stark vine]

honestly, that fight is just so easy on if you're careful enough.

[tropic monolith]

I meant last shop in each area, not in the entire run 😄

[umbral yarrow]

aaaaah k my bad

[rigid fulcrum]

I'm 99% sure it can't spawn in a non mid-shop.

[stark vine]

got it. so, enter all the shops if I want to bully the elysium fight

[rigid fulcrum]

Not the last shop in a region.

[umbral yarrow]

plus the music in that fight is peak, but i cant find it on any playform, its not on youtube, its not on spotify, google cant tell me the title, im at a loss with that ahaha

[rigid fulcrum]

The musician probably has it, in game.

[stark vine]

i bought the steam ost. i think it is there too

however, i am still too busy listening to the sirens.

[umbral yarrow]

but i wanna listen to it when im not playing too

[rigid fulcrum]

Clip it :3

[stark vine]

still cant move on that i got so shocked they had a new song

i played so much early access I didnt expect a new song from Scylla's band.

[fair patrol]

gonna fight chronos again

[umbral yarrow]

when 80+ nights in ||they pulled out bewitching eyes|| i totally lost it

[rigid fulcrum]

Jetty has a thing for Melinoe.

[fair patrol]

and then I died

[regal rock]

That's bc the elysium fight is a Hades 1 song (The Unseen Ones)

[umbral yarrow]

i love you

[regal rock]

It does unlock in the music maker in-game eventually too 👍

[unreal temple]

Does blitz count as a "lightning bolt" for double strike boon?

[stark vine]

i still cant accept that I suck so much that I had to put back death defiance in my grasp for a high fear unrivaled chronos and typhon fight to clear it.

i have been successfully finishing high fear but I couldnt clear the unrivaled fights without death defiances.

[jolly wing]

Starting Night 5 and Stygian Wells is already unlocked. Thanks Narcissus for the early Nightshades.

[stark vine]

i wonder if i should do another fresh save clear for v1.0

[jolly hound]

if you can beat unrivaled chronos and typhon you don’t suck

[stark vine]

it felt like I cheated with death defiances. lol. yeah, the unrivaled chronos and typhons fights are hella unfair.

[meager walrus]

If you cannot beat 67 fear you suck

[stark vine]

lol. it 67 fear max fear now?

[meager walrus]

(I suck)

[stark vine]

for me high fear is past 32

[dark tide]

Does the damage that Hera's Engagement Ring deal multiply? In other words, is each creature in the engagement ring getting a certain amount of damage stacked per additional creature in the ring?

[fair patrol]

which fear things should I use I wanna try I suck

[tropic monolith]

for 67? All of them

[fair patrol]

no, I just wanna know which ones to try I';m new

[tropic monolith]

oh; Frenzy 2 is a good one if you want to git gud

[craggy totem]

Well, it means you survived all of the non-boss encounters while taking more damage and dealing less cos you had to hang on to DDs for the boss fight, eh?

[stark vine]

if you wanna try higher fears, always start with hordes and earlier enemies.

[fair patrol]

what about rivals

[tropic monolith]

Denial is more free than either of those imo

[hearty bridge]

What does ||the salute|| to the Oath of the Unseen

[stark vine]

don't do rivals unless you're ready to get your teeth kicked in.

[fair patrol]

I'm gonna do one rival

[stark vine]

Hecate would be happy to see your pride humbled.

[tropic monolith]

Hecate rivals is disappointingly easy 😐

[stark vine]

good luck.

[fair patrol]

I believe in myself

[craggy totem]

I found VoR Hecate tiresome tbh

[tropic monolith]

Tiresome yes, hard? No

Just compare to poly

[stark vine]

Hecate kicked my teeth in the first time I tried Rivals. I wasnt prepared to be spammed with so many hexes.

[tropic monolith]

the same "hide behind a rock in a corner" works for rivals as for normal

[craggy totem]

No yeah, I agree VoR Polyphemus is more hazardous to my wellbeing, just Hecate makes me go "argh, knock that off!"

[jovial tide]

So help me out here. ||I’m at 5 Underworld Clears and 4 Surface clears. Do I need to do one more underworld run to get the mystery ingredients for the dissolutions?||

[stark vine]

ah damn, Unrivaled Poly's poison still banes me

[stark vine]

you need atleast 7 clears, iirc.

[tropic monolith]

||the dialogue should have told you where you needed to go, but the final ingredient is from the underworld||

[craggy totem]

I was talking to someone who said they'd missed the whole thing where the game tells you about the ||poison-curing fountains around the map for that fight, and they just died of poison while running around helplessly lmao||

[tropic monolith]

...I missed it too, I only knew about them because of playing 1

[stark vine]

the knew of the solution because of 1. but the fast ticks got me.

[craggy totem]

Yeah it does cover the map so thoroughly that I end up taking tons of chip damage anyway just from the time it takes to run to one.

[stark vine]

who knew poison can act so fast

[craggy totem]

TBF it's ||poison from a POWERFUL WITCH :p I totally believe Medea has them chops.||

Love that character, what a legend 👍

[stark vine]

i just blinked and half my HP is gone without them even doing a thing 🤣 I just want to shout "BLOOD AND DARKNESS!"

[fair patrol]

WHY ARE THERE THREE WITCHES

[tropic monolith]

there are four wells, if you get poisoned that much sticking near a corner might be a good idea >.>

[stark vine]

it aligns with Hecate's lore of having 3 bodies.

[rigid fulcrum]

She's a threefold goddess.

[pallid cradle]

Just unlocked the full... Soundtrack I guess?

I bought all the songs.

[stark vine]

I play too much DOOM that I have a habit of moving like a squirrel on Adderall. Yeah, so staying still is often the last thing on my playbook.

[craggy totem]

Major post-ending spoiler: ||the "threefold goddess" symbol being worn prominently on Melinoe's headdress should really have been a clue||

[fair patrol]

I DID IT

[stark vine]

gratz

[tropic monolith]

I didn't say stay still >.> Just keep the corners as a high priority part of your movement pattern

[pallid cradle]

That's one way of describing Doom gameplay

[hearty fog]

Enemy animations are so buttery smooth in Nu Doom that 3rd person footage of a player at work is one of the funniest things in gaming today.

Doomguy's got a stutter step to make Hermes blush.

[craggy totem]

His steps would make Hermes stutter? :P

[hearty fog]

Maybe. He's two speed upgrades away form getting Sonic legs when he runs.

[fair patrol]

Tonight you're... gonna... drown... dies

[crude dragon]

Have you even finished the first game?

[fair patrol]

no

[crude dragon]

Do so

[fair patrol]

I am trying but I am stuck on second area

[stark vine]

1 has a more restrained playstyle for me.

[crude dragon]

There's some stuff in this game that will leave you even more confused than you already are if you don't finish Hades 1 first

[pale pier]

What can we use the ||gemstones for? Aside from selling it in the broker||

[crude dragon]

That's all they're there for

[pale pier]

BRUH

[fair patrol]

I have the chain boon and 2s volcanic strike

this is so good

[craggy totem]

I looked up spoilers for Heracles and ||hoo boy am I really gonna have to do VoR 3 multiple times... I was originally planning to let things lie after I got through my favorites' subplots/dialogues, but the thing is, during the course of that, everyone else also already got maxed, so now it's just Heracles and Zag?|| And if there's only a few missing, that awakens the completionist urge in my heart lol.

Well, I say "spoilers", I mean like, mechanical/progress "spoilers", I suppose. But the thing is that the first ||VoR Prometheus fight already got me curious...|| and the second thing is that it's doable for me as long as I have no (other) Fear, so I can't even just preemptively give up and go "welp, I'll look up the whole story from an LP or wiki", because if I can do it then surely this means I ought to try doing it....

[fair patrol]

CHRONOS VANQUISHED

[fleet stirrup]

They need to do something about the ||Prometheus fates dialogue|| man. I've done 8 runs on now actively trying to get it and still haven't

[crude dragon]

You'd think quest progression dialogue would have priority, wouldn't you

[fleet stirrup]

I know right and yet he keeps talking about some mortals and why he helped them bruh

[rigid fulcrum]

I wish Icarus would show up more often.

It's so hard to talk to him.

[fleet stirrup]

Yea he just doesn't open up enough about his feelings.. oh wait I mean yea he really should show up in-game more often

[tawdry solar]

I know this seeems ridiculous, but I can't help but hope there's a mod that has us play Hades 1 inside Hades 2

[fair patrol]

replace The Unseen with Origination? I wanna use medea skull so I not need to use much Magic

[limpid oar]

You mean like doing the h1 route as Mel or literally playing h1 inside h2?

[tawdry solar]

As Mel. Same environments and enemies from H1

[crude dragon]

You shouldn't be using Unseen in general

[fair patrol]

I like to use ygnium

so I can get refill magic

[crude dragon]

Get a mana regen boon

[fair patrol]

oh yeah

[crude dragon]

You do not need the equivalent of a Glamour Gain for 5 Grasp when you could be using it on something like Origination

[fair patrol]

ok I got special zeus and cast of demeter

[unkempt zodiac]

It's not terrible. Optimal play imo shouldn't be the main concern unless you're optimizing for fear or speed

[rigid fulcrum]

Use what you enjoy.

[buoyant orbit]

Does stuff like arachne armor or eris blessing stacks get removed on keepsake swap

[limpid oar]

For torches other than Eos and the hidden one Unseen does nothing though, because it doesn't work while you're channeling omegas

[rigid fulcrum]

If you want tips on making life easier, ask. But whatever vibes is vibes :3

[crude dragon]

Those ones specifically don't

[tropic monolith]

I believe eris keeps stacking even without it

[buoyant orbit]

Hmm

[unkempt zodiac]

They are not removed. Almost nothing is removed other than active effects, and even eris keeps the active effect

[crude dragon]

There's a few (mostly god keepsakes that aren't the scam leaf or Hermes) that will lose their effects on swap

[fair patrol]

is there a way to apply to apply two curses with special

[unkempt zodiac]

Scam leaf? Because it forgets to trigger?

[crude dragon]

YEP

[fair patrol]

or do I have to do like other like cast and special curse

[unkempt zodiac]

Best you can do is 2 on the cast thanks to gust

[crude dragon]

There is no one-button Origination

[rigid fulcrum]

Does gust not count for Origination?

[crude dragon]

Well, besides Gust on Cast and another god's cast that curses

[unkempt zodiac]

Sure there is. Gust + weak on the cast

Or ya know any other cast base

[fair patrol]

wait no I forgot to remove rival

[rigid fulcrum]

Also, Selene's Morph can apply all your curses at once with one button.

[buoyant orbit]

shoutouts to Aphro's leg as well

[rigid fulcrum]

Aphro legendary is 0 button origination sometimes. She's great like that.

[devout cairn]

shoutout to Aphro's legs

[ivory zodiac]

is there an easy way to force ||lance of ares? my initial idea was start with selene and keep restarting till i get the skyfall and in region 2 equip ares - will this work or should i start with ares and then get selene||

[crude dragon]

Sky Fall is exclusive to Selene Coat

[tropic monolith]

post-nerf answered where to get the hex already, but for others you want to get the hex first then force the god if needed -- you can then upgrade the hex into the godsent

[jolly junco]

Having trouble forwarding the Athena-Arachne quest line

[vague urchin]

I run Unseen and Origination. I skip the reroll corner.

But I'll swap unseen for huntress if im using low omega weapons like daggers or C-Staff.

[jolly junco]

Does priming activate huntress or does it need to be spent mana?

[hasty ocean]

Spent magick

[crude dragon]

Needs to be spent

[teal zephyr]

Nah if your magic bar is fully primed huntress won't activate

[jolly junco]

Got it

[radiant crag]

Selene Coat, Ares start, zone 2 Moon Beam

[fair patrol]

I killed scylla...
with 3 hp left

I suck

[small nymph]

I'm a little stuck advancing relationships with a few characters. I'm post-epilogue at this point, just trying to finish stuff.

• ||Arachne is locked at 6 hearts, but Athena is maxed out. I bring the Gorgon amulet with me on each run through Erebus. Arachne has talked to Hecate both at the Crossroads and at her grotto. Her keepsake is maxed.||
• ||Artemis is locked at 6 hearts. I've sung with her at the Crossroads, unlocked her Aspect, beaten Chronos and Typhon with it, and her trinket is maxed.||
• ||Odysseus is locked at 10 hearts. I triggered the Polyphemus dialog with Knuckle Bones, but can't seem to trigger the Scylla dialog. Trinket maxed, etc, etc. I also don't think I've triggered any of the Circe dialogs yet, but as far as I know, those come after Scylla.||
• ||I can't seem to get the last offering from Narcissus's "shop" to show up. I assume I need to be down 1 DD, but be using DD, to get that offering -- the Life Savings one.||

I've also got ||Heracles and Icarus locked||, but I think that's just because ||I've been doing a lot of Underworld runs|| to try to deal with the above.

[hasty ocean]

A win's a win

[oak tulip]

What are the songs of the musical ghost with a voice?

[fair patrol]

I have 0 death defiance left now

[tropic monolith]

||Narcissus life savings is not related to death defy at all, you just need to get things settled between him and Echo||

[small nymph]

Hm. I did do that part already.

[tropic monolith]

that's all it took for me to be offered it, eventually. ||Maxed echo relationship, haven't maxed narcissus yet though he's only one down||

[oak tulip]

||be sure with oddyseus you dont use rivals, its helped me||
||about artemis, you need trigger her at erebus, oceanus, city of ephyra after dialogue would work||
||arachne just talk with her if she met athena already, and be sure you triggered athena dialogue about arachne, when she says take my amulet and go to arachne||

[small nymph]

I've triggered ||Artemis|| a number of times in ||Erebus and Oceanus|| since hitting the lock, but none of the conversations ever seem to advance the relationship track.

||Arachne hasn't met with Athena yet; she's met with Hecate, though. For Athena, I keep taking the Gorgon amulet with me to start runs, encounter her, and lately there hasn't even been conversation; it's just been boons.||

[fleet stirrup]

What dialogue about ||the fates|| do I need from ||Prometheus||?? I got the one where ||melinoe|| mentions them and then ||prometheus|| says that they arent ||weaving anymore yet time is still moving forwards|| or something like that is that not it?

[small nymph]

Are you sure you're not thinking of ||Heavenly Splendor||, which only unlocks ||after the pool is cleared via incantation||?

[oak tulip]

||then no idea about artemis, its unlocked for me passive
and about arachne you need get full dialog line before take amulet, its like talk with arachne, after some talkies with your master, then master go talk with arachne, then some talkie walkie again, then master say you smth about athena, then you go to athena on surface, then only after you get confimrmation dialogue with athena you go take amulet, so yeah you need full dialogue line||

[real aurora]

the absolute state of hades 2 discord

[crude dragon]

Isn't his elements gift the one that's relationship-locked?

[tropic monolith]

oh; you are correct.

Guess I'm not done with him either 😄

[oak tulip]

||just bunch of spoilers 😭||

[small nymph]

Hmm, I guess ||a bunch of surface runs|| are in my future, then. 😅

[oak tulip]

very much

[fair patrol]

oh no... the cyclops and the sorceress

is that maggots

[broken glen]

|| the absolute state of hades 2 discord||

[fair patrol]

||speaking in spoilers||

||everything said here is a spoiler, even this message||

||spoiler that please||

[fiery dew]

||haha made you look||

[fair patrol]

||what's this supposed to say, sorry I can't click it because it might be a spoiler very big one||

[fiery dew]

oh sorry, I'm not reading that, I'm afraid of spoiler so I won't click

[tropic monolith]

Wow that was a big one

[fair patrol]

I'm going to send an image

watch wait

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[torpid owl]

what the hell does ||Chronos|| have in his first two phases which hits for over 600 besides his ability which you have to stand in a spot for

[fair patrol]

stuff like attacks

[torpid owl]

I've never been hit for that much from a simple attack before

[fair patrol]

how much damage

[torpid owl]

he hit me for 647 lol

[fair patrol]

which attack wa sit

[torpid owl]

i think the clock hit me or something

[fair patrol]

was it like dark and clocks

[torpid owl]

no

I've done the fight like 40 times now never seen that happen

[fair patrol]

idk

maybe was it 67?

[torpid owl]

no

[fair patrol]

are you sure

[torpid owl]

yes lol i was full hp

[fair patrol]

I believe you

[crude dragon]

It shows cumulative damage taken in the win screen, so it could have just been you getting clipped a bunch

[torpid owl]

no idea it seemed so random

he had the minions and the clock up and i was just doing everything normally

[crude dragon]

Did you have a summon?

[cunning warren]

How do you dodge Prometheus fire if Ur hiding on the literal opposite side and the safe place is on the other

[torpid owl]

no

[crude dragon]

You stay near the edge of where the fires will hit and then make a break for it

[fair patrol]

I like the cocks attack because u can easy doge it

[crude dragon]

I'm going to hope that's a typo

[torpid owl]

yeah i don't normally get hit by it but apparently it hit me for 647 that time

[cunning warren]

Is there enough time

[fair patrol]

the one where it dark and there are clocks and circle things like a big circle and a small circle and a middle

[crude dragon]

If you're close to the edge of the strip, yes

[cunning warren]

Okay

[crude dragon]

If you're in the middle of the strip or at the arena wall, you're getting clipped

[fair patrol]

artemis boon idea:
Marked thing
All enemies get marked

[crude dragon]

Really wish there was some sort of lines on the floor to show where the lanes get divided

[crude dragon]

That's called Death Warrant and already exists in both games

[zealous tapir]

Anyone know what that switch 2 update to 1.31 is? Can’t find info anywhere

[fair patrol]

new hades boon idea:
Death To Chronos
-50% damage from Chronos
+40% damage dealt to Chronos
-90% reinforcements
drops x5 sand
stays vanquished for longer

[unreal hare]

If he was that powerful the story would've ended very quickly

[fair patrol]

New Chronos Boon Idea:
Death To Hades

[merry whale]

jeweled pom if it gave a hades boon every time u enter a region

[fair patrol]

cerebeus should give boons

something like "dog head"
gives you 3 heads

[craggy delta]

(secret aspects spoiler) ||medea will not give me the skull aspect any tips?||

[fair patrol]

find her or something

[glad lake]

Cerberus Keepsake: Triple Collar "3 Heads are better than one"
"Lets you discover new experiences with your romantic bonds"

[crude dragon]

Have you ||maxed out mom or Medea skull||

[craggy delta]

I ||maxed one aspect and unlocked all of them||

[crude dragon]

||Was it Mel?||

[craggy delta]

do not remember

does it have to be one of the other 2? that's weird

[crude dragon]

They changed it in 1.0 be one of the Nightmare-using ones

[craggy delta]

huh, TIL

guess that's it then assuming I maxed melinoe (which I probably did because I really don't like ||medea skull||)

[fair patrol]

how many bonds are there

[ivory slate]

Hey chat im a captain on a long journey across the sea.
I see some sirens singing on some rocks.
Should i crash my boat into the rocks?
Vote ✅ for yes or ☑️ for yes in a different font.

[craggy delta]

time to hunt some bounties igh

[crude dragon]

Mods, tie her to the mast

[fair patrol]

this shall be your final cruise

[simple sierra]

only if they're singing Bewitching Eyes!

[ivory slate]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!! NO I NEED TO CRASH INTO THE ROCKS YOU DONT UNDERSTAND

[cursive bane]

How do i unlock chaos Chant?
Is the last I need

[ivory slate]

THEYRE SINGING "I AM GOING TO CLAW OUT YOUR EYES"
WHAT OTHER CHOICE DO I HAVE??

[fair patrol]

THEN DROWN YOU TO DEATH

[crude dragon]

You have to have an Aether element (either by Creation or a Duo) before accepting the Chaos curse

[cursive bane]

Uhm? not sure hot to get that

[frigid echo]

what is whispered prayer form artiemis? can't find it in codex and it's the only one missing in artiemis boon prophesy

[crude dragon]

Either by Creation or a Duo

[cursive bane]

what is creation ?_?

[crude dragon]

It's her "Legendary," you need to get her relationship up high enough before it shows up

[frigid echo]

oh
well

[crude dragon]

Creation is a Chaos boon, gives you 1-4 of all 5 elements depending on rarity

[fair patrol]

how to get legendaries

[crude dragon]

They have prerequisites you have to fill before you can have them spawn

[fair patrol]

like?

[crude dragon]

It depends on the Legendary

[fair patrol]

I want herrah

I give her nectar nothing happend

[crude dragon]

Unlock the Dream Nail and go to Deepnest

[fleet stirrup]

Just beat Typhon in like a minute literally got through each of his phases in like 5 seconds each but the fight unfortunately has a lot of downtime

[frigid echo]

phase transition go brrrrrrrrrr

[fleet stirrup]

I love my moonstone axe aspect of thanatos

[fair patrol]

isn't she also in red memory

[crude dragon]

Nectar doesn't affect boon rarity or Legendary/Duo odds

[fair patrol]

it doedsnt?

[crude dragon]

IDK, I'm still finishing the first game

[fleet stirrup]

Spoiled on Silksong in the hades 2 discord in the discussion channel for hades 2 ripp

[crude dragon]

Nope, it's purely for leveling up bonds (and the first 2 give the keepsake and boon prophecy)

[fair patrol]

it's not a spoiler

[fleet stirrup]

eh it is and isnt

[tropic monolith]

no; to get a chance at Hera legendary being offered you need:
||One of the following:

• Sworn Strike
• Sworn Flourish
• Engagement Ring
• Nexus Rush

One of the following:

• Bridal Glow
• Uncommon Grace
• Fine Line

One of the following:

• Hereditary Bane
• Rousing Reception||

[shrewd geyser]

You generally have to raise relationship status to get legendaries offered to you in the first place, and they all have boon prereqs. If you press the “offerings” button while boon picking you can see all the boons a god offers, and if you ah e the right Incantation you can even track boon requirements with a forget-me-not

[fair patrol]

I need all of these or one in each section

[tropic monolith]

at least one per section

[crude dragon]

You don't need to raise relationships to see Legendaries, you just need the prerequisites

[shrewd geyser]

For some you do ig, not for primary olympians

[crude dragon]

I only had 2 Nectar tossed Hermes's way and still got Paid Dues

As a side note, Paid Dues is still a horrible Legendary

[shrewd geyser]

Oh fr?

[fair patrol]

also how to gift moros? I can't gift him anymore

[shrewd geyser]

False, paid dues with chronos keepsake go brrr

[shrewd geyser]

If you look at a character’s detail panel in your relationships window at the bottom below their hearts you will get a hint on how to deepen their relationship

[tropic monolith]

Grassdew provided how to look it up, for Moros it's probably ||you just need to complete more fated prophecies||

[crude dragon]

Assuming you have the relevant incantation done to see your relationship level

[fair patrol]

what's that /~ thing

[hybrid lagoon]

Hi! Does anyone know the reqs to meet || zagreus || post ending credits?

[tropic monolith]

||40%ish chance in mid-area shops||

[shrewd geyser]

||mid area shop is n area 1-3||

[crude dragon]

||Keep an eye out for midshops, you'll know what you're looking for when you see it||

[hybrid lagoon]

Thanks! Should be only || underworld || right?

[shrewd geyser]

Nah either

[crude dragon]

Nope, either route

[hybrid lagoon]

Yay! I wanted to do the fears too so that's good

[shrewd geyser]

If you have frenzy 2 on don’t take the contract you will die a horrible death

[fair patrol]

did you know boonless, deadlusless, upgradeless less max heat is possible easily

it's very easy

just keep clicking you can kill every boss and enemy

I did it a few times like 5-6, it was fun and it was really easy

[shrewd geyser]

Mods, examine this man’s brain I’m not sure he’s okay

[fair patrol]

timer can be annoying but turn into hermes

makes it easier

[shrewd geyser]

What’re you using aspect of Zeus pre-nerf or something?

[fair patrol]

no I'm using aspect of Chronos

[shrewd geyser]

Scythe weapon DLC when (ignore than aspect)

[fair patrol]

because of it I got done in one second

I think Chronos Aspect should be nerfed

[simple sierra]

I love their balancing so much fr it multiplies replayability the fact everything feels good

[shrewd geyser]

Both hades 1 and 2 are so well balanced, I miss some of my broken builds that were nerfed out but I know it’s better for the game

[simple sierra]

my only gripe is aspect of hel could be more fun, feels too much like torches

[robust meadow]

rip og momus 😔

[fair patrol]

best aspect? I think it's Ultimate Aspect

[shrewd geyser]

You can recreate it somewhat with a hammer

[shrewd geyser]

Yeah Hel is fun but it is kinda a more boring adamant rail, it’s really fun with Hera on the special and Zeus attack/chain lightning

[fair patrol]

is adamant rail a weapon you can use

[shrewd geyser]

In hades 1, in hades 2 Eris won’t let us borrow it

[fair patrol]

what if you could kill eris

[shrewd geyser]

I have, repeatedly. She just keeps coming back

[fair patrol]

and steal the rail

[robust meadow]

why do u wanna kill gf 😔

[shrewd geyser]

Dissolution of Strife when

[fair patrol]

I meant like, Death to Chronos but Death to Eris

[tall junco]

hi guys

im new here , whats the strongest weapon according to you guys

[tall junco]

true , she used to be so annoying then i found smth that counters her (honestly everyone in the game)

[shrewd geyser]

Medea is strongest but also the highest skill floor imo, my fav weapon is the hidden aspect of the staff ||Anubis||

[tall junco]

it takes soo much skill not to get hit

idk if anyone knows this , but aspect of thanatos axe + apollo boons

[robust meadow]

i like aspect of artemis because funny block

[lyric zenith]

Mel staff, although there's an argument it's content dependent.

[tall junco]

overpowered enough to finish typhon easily (i finished him on my first try, the damage output and range is insane)

[simple sierra]

Anubis is SO fun I think I'd agree. And so many different builds feel viable and unique (def partial to hera attack and apollo/aphro special

[tall junco]

its pretty much similar to hades 1 no? backstabbing

[lyric zenith]

That'd be Mel daggers

[tall junco]

i was able to beat eris without losing a single health point

[tall junco]

oh yes my mistake , apologies

[fair patrol]

can nemesis use boons

[tall junco]

she buys em. so ig she can

[shrewd geyser]

I can’t stop picking Apollo attack with the hammer that also makes the attacks bigger, but I feel like there are 4 or 5 viable builds that are very solid with it

[tall junco]

apollo is pretty good ngl with the range and damage

[simple sierra]

One run I got both the hammer that double-casts specials and the apollo legendary and it was nuking everything

[tall junco]

just wanted to come here let people know bout the thanatos aspect+apollo boon . its pretty well agianst all bosses if u can increase spead with either hammer or hermes.

cuz i didnt see anyone talking bout it

[shrewd geyser]

I have done that a few times it is hilarious shooting four omega specials

[simple sierra]

with hera attack it's just a death circle when you land one special on anything

[winged vector]

So I didn't used to use rerolls on arcana cards, but then I swapped things around so I could use them. Now I've picked up some of the Fates' Whim keepsakes. Is it worth switching my arcana up and switching to them? I don't use the gods' keepsakes much.

[shrewd geyser]

Have you noticed that once your omega special is shooting more than 1 there is a decent chance the enemy just FLIES off the screen lol

[simple sierra]

I haven't yet but will keep an eye out omg!

[crude dragon]

Absolutely is

[fair patrol]

New Boon Idea:
The Eye:
Watches People

[shrewd geyser]

The eye of ||Typhon||: deals more damage to me than anything else in my run

[winter cove]

I keep falling short at|| Prometheus ||Boss

I'm not running with any death defiance though, I like the Heracles Arcane Card

[crude dragon]

Simon Says, or just the fight in general?

[simple sierra]

I treat prometheus like a dps check where I just have to kill him before he kills me. all I avoid is the fire lines

[winged vector]

My worry is that I won't be able to reroll and get nectar as easily, and I feel like I'm at the stage of the game (post-credits) where I need to focus on getting all my relationships up.

[winter cove]

What is the best keepsake for the Heracles arcane card?

I'm trying to do non death defiance runs.

[shrewd geyser]

Well it really depends on the rest of your build

[fair patrol]

is hecate a test

[forest hawk]

Just finished the game and cried

[winter cove]

I mean, I'm able to get mostly through all of Surface up until ||prometheus||. So I think i'm doing good

[shrewd geyser]

If you are dying specifically to just him, pop on the evil eye

[crude dragon]

Depends on what you're going for and what condition your run's in

[forest hawk]

I feel he is still the toughest for me

[winter cove]

She's not fighting you out of hatred, but because she's your foster mama basically. She's making sure you're ready.

[shrewd geyser]

Hecate is making sure you’re strong enough to not get seriously hurt once past her, as anything past her fight is gonna be more dangerous

[winter cove]

Return to SHADOW NOW

[fleet stirrup]

What does the acceptance of another fate incantation do?

[fair patrol]

scylla is easier than hecate

[shrewd geyser]

Mel never dies right? Like Zag is dying at the end of every run, but Mel is returning to shadow before death?

[forest hawk]

The sirens they my favorite

[shrewd geyser]

Not VoR 😭

[winter cove]

Unlike Zagreus, Mel has a way of escaping the fight before she is actually killed

Zag just dies. Mel uses her witchcraft to escape.

[shrewd geyser]

If she died what would even happen, where would she end up? No one to ferry her soul back to the house or crossroads

[fair patrol]

what's scylla rival?

[winter cove]

She would end up in the clutches of Chronos.

Her magical recall ability is the only thing preventing her from being captured by Chronos

[fleet stirrup]

What about after you befriend Chronos if she died what then?

[shrewd geyser]

Vow of Rivals Scylla ||makes it so Charybdis joins the fight, and turns her emo||

[fair patrol]

what

WHY CHARYBIDS NO

[crude dragon]

Lets you reset the run's seed without dying

[shrewd geyser]

You need to salute the Vow

[tidal cliff]

||charybdis isn’t even the worst part of the fight, there’s water jets that stun if you go near Roxy meaning you can’t just instantly target her||

[fleet stirrup]

ohh ok so just a convenience thing

[fair patrol]

I don't care I just target the others

[crude dragon]

Because there's an older version of the saying "stuck bewteen a rock and a hard place" that's ||"stuck between Scylla and Charybdis"||

Also still exists as-is in other languages

[shrewd geyser]

You will care

[fair patrol]

I killed the guitar before drummer

[crude dragon]

It's mostly used for speedrunners and max fear runners

[winter cove]

In regards to no death defiance runs, I always use Athena Amulet to get her boon early.

[shrewd geyser]

Also the reasoning for the name of best song from Scylla

[ivory slate]

24 surface heat... help

[shrewd geyser]

VoR 2 make up the rest elsewhere

[ivory slate]

vor 2?

[shrewd geyser]

Vow of Rivals // Extreme measures

[devout cairn]

what vows

[ivory slate]

bro the VOR is to hard....

[ivory slate]

idk tbh.

[shrewd geyser]

VoR poly isn’t bad, sit on arena edges when ||Medea starts making everything stinky|| and VoR Eris ||sit behind her, use ranged attacks to detonate her mines||

[fair patrol]

I won again

[ivory slate]

is frenzy hard

[fair patrol]

are you slow or are you quick

[shrewd geyser]

Frenzy is one of the hardest but also most overcome-able heat options

[ivory slate]

The teachers said im slow

[fair patrol]

yes then it's hard for you

[devout cairn]

do you plan to go higher than 24F for surface and 32F for underworld or just want the Night's Champion?

[ivory slate]

i just want nights champion

[bronze marlin]

hah || Hypnos: Have you tried not standing in the circles? Hope that helps!||

[shrewd geyser]

Frenzy is a really free 6 heat when you are used to it

[fair patrol]

the highest heat I've ever done is 2

[devout cairn]

meh i wouldn't bother with frenzy then, there are easier vows

[swift flare]

All are free heat jf you put it that way lol

[shrewd geyser]

Not true, losing arcana is not free

[swift flare]

Just get used to it

[shrewd geyser]

It ain’t the same as adapting to enemy timing

[lyric zenith]

It's not just timing, though

[shrewd geyser]

Frenzy is just timing wdym

[ivory slate]

Hmmm
Total eclipse orp twilight curse?

[swift flare]

In any case, 24F, there are better options

[lyric zenith]

When enemies attack more, that is less safe space you have to work w/.

[shrewd geyser]

All space is safe if you are spacing with your cast and staggering enemies

[fair patrol]

how to get unknown

[ivory slate]

Chat which hex should i choose... big bomb or sheep

[shrewd geyser]

Keep winning

[swift flare]

Frenzy will force you to re-learn a lot if things, would be too hard IMO

[high steeple]

YOOOO FIRST ZAG FIGHT

[tropic monolith]

do you have Hestia or Zeus?

[bronze marlin]

frenzy 1 is fine though. 2 is hard

[high steeple]

Does either one have a god boon

[ivory slate]

no

[lyric zenith]

And you could make the same "free" argument for most vows.

[ivory slate]

Selene has SKUNKED me.

[tropic monolith]

then up to you if you want something better at bosses (nuke) or trash clear (sheep)

[high steeple]

Are you doing underworld or surface

[ivory slate]

Surface

[lyric zenith]

Healing is optional, extra damage is inconsequential if you don't get hit, more health is just an extention of deadline, etc.

[shrewd geyser]

I disagree, considering how much heat frenzy gives you compared to the increase of difficulty isn’t crazy, when something like hordes stacked on top of max timer will annihilate you

[high steeple]

Oh!!! I say sheep

[swift flare]

There’s a lot of Fear that are free in a sense that you do not need to spend too much efforts to adapt the changes

[fair patrol]

can you use gigaros

[bronze marlin]

hybris 1 ^
I don't think it ever mattered to me in a run. 2 does matter though

[lyric zenith]

I just don't think it's a good metric if time investment is the only thing you consider for what fear adds.

[shrewd geyser]

It’s not time investment being the only thing I consider, I just think for the increase in difficulty frenzy 2 adds compared to how much fear it gives you it’s a good choice for increasing your number

[swift flare]

Got any particular 24F in your mind?

[lyric zenith]

I think that's more nuanced/agreeable

[shrewd geyser]

Yeah I shoulda led with that, my apologies

[swift flare]

It’s 24 F for surface, what else would you do?

[shrewd geyser]

Depends on the weapons, but I think wards can be nice if you plan on Poseidon/zeus/hera/hestia… fangs I think is always a good choice, none of the modifiers are too bad, max timer or if you can’t cut that go to second to max timer

[swift flare]

I imagine timer x2, returnx2, fangx2 are all easy enough

[shrewd geyser]

Yep agreed with all this, I also thing VoR 2 on the surface isn’t terrible

[lyric zenith]

VoR 3 surface is arguably not even that bad

[swift flare]

Nah, I think it takes too long

[shrewd geyser]

Yeah but a lot of people get run ended by normal Prom so I don’t generally recommend it

[still dagger]

I just beat chronos using the dissolution of time. this ending is a bit too much to process, I'll have to pause and come back tomorrow

[lyric zenith]

If you're max timer, ig

But if you're timer 2, it's 3rd boss, it's very easy to bank tons extra and be chilling

[shrewd geyser]

Shadow clones in mid bosses also isn’t too bad

[swift flare]

It is still a boss that can wipe you out easily

[swift flare]

Yeah that’s a good one

[olive fog]

I am about to enter Tartarus and attempt Chronos with the rival/fear debuff for the first time. I have the upgrade that makes keepsakes 4 stars, should I try with knuckle bones or guardian tooth..?

Still have 4 death defiance btw

[swift flare]

Denial almost good

[shrewd geyser]

Tooth, VoR Chronos is ||three phases, so knuckle bones don’t get massive value||

[swift flare]

Don’t get too many boons are too fun for me, but oh well

[shrewd geyser]

Denial onions your first boom each area right?

At least you can mitigate the pain a little with ||Chronos|| keepsake

[lyric zenith]

Maybe I just haven't fought it w/ frenzy enough, but ||VoR Prometh|| was not as hard as I was expecting from hearing people talk about it.

[ivory slate]

i tried something and got cooked.
Any suggestions?

[tropic monolith]

it's not that hard a fight if your movement pattern is already good

[bronze marlin]

it can be a nightmare if you mostly melee stuff in your build

[crude dragon]

Forfeit is the onion, Denial is "The Cooler Approval Process"

[shrewd geyser]

Oh hell nah I hate approval process

[swift flare]

Better off you show us yours then I can recommend adjustment

[lyric zenith]

Ig I do get hit a lot, so I would feel frenzy, but I feel like a lot of that getting hit is the regular fight and not from VoR.

[crude dragon]

Denial banishes the two boons you don't pick, as opposed to Approval Process's "randomly lock off 2 options"

[shrewd geyser]

How does denial interact with echo keepsake

[swift flare]

Denial still lets you easily pick the boon you need

[tropic monolith]

the thing I found for the prom VoR fight was I could just ||hit and run Prom exactly like normal, and Heracles couldn't keep up and was barely a threat||

[crude dragon]

It'll only banish the one that Stone doesn't grab

[ivory slate]

Also
Whats strongest for axe of melinoe
Aphrodite or ares

[shrewd geyser]

I just do this fight like Asterius and Theseus I beat the crap outta the one who spins, then I take care of the one who doesn’t

[crude dragon]

Which is why it's "The Cooler Approval Process" and not "Approval Process Part 2"

[crude dragon]

Aphro unless you plan to go into Heinous Affront memes

[tropic monolith]

the problem with that is there's no barriers in the arena the way there was in elysium, so the one who doesn't spin kept hitting me 😛

[stone maple]

had a fever dream where Charon was on break and when i arrived to his shop he was replaced with Sans Undertale for exactly 0 reason.

[shrewd geyser]

Yeah… I had that problem anyway in Hades 1, I was so bad at the EM 3

[swift flare]

Oh, that’s your preferred weapon?

[ivory slate]

yes

[swift flare]

Personally i say go with Thanatos aspect would be easier

[ivory slate]

that and the hidden knife

[swift flare]

Axe cannot block anymore with special, and it’s slow

[ivory slate]

No.
BIG BONK.
Every typhon kill but one ive had with me axes

[lyric zenith]

Aphro, easily.

[swift flare]

Alright, Aphro I recommend

[lyric zenith]

Ares is better on mid-to-low power weapons, and on an attack type that you don't intend to use frequently.

[ivory slate]

I LOVE APHRIODITE

[lyric zenith]

(he's very niche)

[crude dragon]

It really isn't that slow

[shrewd geyser]

It is slow if you play it like it still has a shield, but considering the special hits an entire football field away you don’t have to play that close lol

[dull whale]

The goat

[lyric zenith]

Axe is very nice w/ letting you dash to move where your attack will land

[dull whale]

Charon Axe is very very fun
I love it

[lyric zenith]

Just don't mash ideally

[dull whale]

I've yet to try Thanatos but I've unlocked it

[ivory slate]

WOAH

[shrewd geyser]

Spin :)

[ivory slate]

I have epic aphrodite attack boon but ares is offering me a heroic attack boon.
Should i take it instead and jsut do a silly willy ares build

[dull whale]

So it's an Omega Attack aspect
Ohhh good to know

[shrewd geyser]

No

[lyric zenith]

If it's low stakes, could be funny
(but Aphro is just better)

[bronze marlin]

ares is fine on the special though (if you even use that)

[ivory slate]

Heroic...

[shrewd geyser]

Smaller number tho

[lyric zenith]

Smaller, but ORANGE

[dull whale]

Always Aphro in that case

Aphro my damage % goat

Hera is also a good damage % goat but she's more for CC I find which is still very good

[bold hull]

the vow bosses are extremely annoying and lower the game score for me

[shrewd geyser]

Which ones

[bold hull]

all

[shrewd geyser]

Gonna be a skill issue in that case

[clever rose]

Bro im so salty rn. Got slicer for the prophecy, got icarus after runs of not seeing him at all. Then a power outage

[bold hull]

if you want to defend that trash thats on you

[dull whale]

Some are of equal difficulty or even easier than base bosses

[ivory slate]

Hmm
Whats the easiest 24 heat for surface

[clever rose]

RIP my run

[shrewd geyser]

I think it saves after each room

[lyric zenith]

VoR is entirely optional, and most non-VoR fights are boring.

[olive fog]

thanks for the reocmmendation! Ironically only lost one death defiance and its because ||I didn't expect him to use the one hit kill placement move 3 times instead of once.||

[dull whale]

Huge facts

[clever rose]

It doesnt if you crash

[dull whale]

The base Polyphemus fight is a snoozefest lol

[shrewd geyser]

Hah… nice I get it

[jolly hound]

If you can handle vow of rivals 3 and the timer that’s half the heat right there

[ivory slate]

timers fine but vor isnt

[dull whale]

Wait lmao I didn't even mean to say that
But double meaning there LOL

[meager walrus]

I would recommend practicing rivals

[ivory slate]

its hard 😭

[shrewd geyser]

Yeah I’d get good at at least VoR 2

[meager walrus]

At the very least rivals 1 and 2 on surface are fairly easy for the fear they add

[dull whale]

Yeah it's just practice tbh
Some VoR fights are super easy anyway

[meager walrus]

Though you can do 24 without rivals at all to be honest

[ivory slate]

nuh uh

[meager walrus]

But I would recommend learning at least the first 2 fights

[rough horizon]

Yup. Underworld though... Well, it's manageable, but there's a pretty big jump for both

[bronze marlin]

rivals fights are great. brings you back to your very first runs, where even the normal bosses were hard. a little bit of practice and they aren't impossible anymore

[dull whale]

I shutter to think about fighting ||eris|| on non VoR for how annoying she is in that fight normally

[shrewd geyser]

Facts I feel like my brain is more turned off in vor eris

[dull whale]

Small arena and her attacks are significantly slower. It's nice lol

[meager walrus]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDAsMCwzLDIsNSwwLDIsMiwwLDYsMCwyLDIsMF0=

Here is a 24 with no frenzy no rivals

[ivory slate]

:3

[dull whale]

I just unlocked VoR 3 last night so gotta do ||cerberus|| and ||prometheus|| next
We'll see how those go lol
But every fight in VoR 1 and 2 I first tried and they weren't bad at all

[ivory slate]

welp this runs over

[shrewd geyser]

EM Lernie with heightened security is harder than either VoR 2

[dull whale]

I only got caught up with ||scylla|| because I didn't expect the enemy numbers but otherwise it was fine and did it

EM Lernie with HS yeaaaaah
That's a lot of CC you need

[shrewd geyser]

Actually I take that back, on higher heats VoR Scylla is a run killer if you don’t have a good set up

[bronze marlin]

scylla: what about projectiles, a lot of them? MORE

[dull whale]

Absolutely love the fight tho. Super fun

[shrewd geyser]

It’s fantastic, great song too

[hearty fog]

"Not enough, you said you wanted mooore~"

[dull whale]

First time ever i got to Scylla, I had like no HP and Coral Crown started playing
I was like wait ok banger
The lyrics hit and I was like whoa ok wait this is fire
Wasn't paying attention and died lol

[shrewd geyser]

Like let me live I wanted to hear the song 😭

[dull whale]

Omg yeaaaaaah

It was a fun death because I died to a banger lol

[hollow lily]

Just got whiplashed by Hecate on Instagram

Hecate loves a succulent Chinese meal

[lime slate]

does the game feel a bit easy when going "out" without nerfing yourself via the oath of the unseen for anyone else or is it just me? I am at fear 12

[shrewd geyser]

Yes, that’s how it should feel at a certain point though

[lime slate]

I see

[bronze marlin]

all the upgrades really stack up

[shrewd geyser]

As both your mastery, and weapon upgrades/arcana increase the base game becomes extremely easy

[quartz hawk]

is there a way to make heracles not hate everything

[hollow lily]

Fear is forcing urself to repeat it until it becomes the new normal. Going from 30 fear back to 0 makes everything easier

[quartz hawk]

do i need to keep giving him nectar

[lime slate]

at that point you have to use the nerf kind of modifiers I take it

[shrewd geyser]

Idk maybe go back in time and stop him from killing his family

[quartz hawk]

i can do that probably

[shrewd geyser]

Any modifier is gonna nerf you or make the world stronger, so any work

[lime slate]

okay then I see

[bronze marlin]

You are okay, witch.
the most positive thing heracles would ever say.

[tulip herald]

How do the godsent hexes work?

[dull whale]

Once per chamber

[tulip herald]

Whats the requirement to get them?

[shrewd geyser]

Have the god

[dull whale]

Or +1 in guardian rooms if you get that star path perk

[tulip herald]

Do i need to get the god before I get the hex?

[crude dragon]

Not anymore, and equipping the god keepsake will also work

[shrewd geyser]

Or +1 from Athena

[dull whale]

Yes

[shrewd geyser]

No, it will retroactively godsend it

[tulip herald]

hmm phase shift is demeter right?

[dull whale]

Oh you don't??? Ok neat

[crude dragon]

Yeah, they changed that in a patch because it made Selene Coat miserable to play

[dull whale]

Wait yeaaaah I can see why now
Cool!

[tulip herald]

Ok so wiki says phase shift is demeter, I have demeter on attack but I have no godsent

[fierce viper]

anyone know if the Hades II OST is gonna release on streaming?

[buoyant matrix]

godsent hexes need an incantation first

use every hex at least once, next time you meet selene she will give you the incantation

[hollow lily]

MOM GET THE CAMERA YAHTZEE LOVED HADES 2

[crude dragon]

Like the board game?

[tulip herald]

Oh i see thank you

[hollow lily]

YAHTZEE LOVED THE GAMEEEEEEEEEE

https://youtu.be/jGtrA7mdqX4?si=j6oj0vGmTMBOBF59

[dull whale]

It's all on spotify. Has been for a hot minute now

[shrewd geyser]

YouTube too

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL53mjgVKFq7yeq21XhibC8izNSVlPCsNP&si=hv278gPh3C-ecyWR

[hollow lily]

i have it downloaded in flac format

[shrewd geyser]

I own it on steam

If I was capable of birthing children Darren Korb would have me to deal with

[hollow lily]

favorite track

[shrewd geyser]

Across both or Hades 2

[hollow lily]

eyhhhh hades 2. cus if were talking hades 1 its easily hades fight phase 3

[shrewd geyser]

Unseen Ones

It’s so good, but from Hades 2 it’s probably Sightless Shepherd

[hollow lily]

cross roads, last 4 minutes of edge of erebus and sigless shepard

[static drum]

I think Circe is bugged, or something along those lines. She removed my vow of Menace, then vow of rivals Eris summoned a bunch of the big turret automatons from olympus and turboscrewed me

[shrewd geyser]

My top 5 across both games

1. Unseen Ones
2. Sightless Shepherd
3. Song of the Pearls
4. In the Blood
5. Time Belongs to Us

[fierce viper]

gotcha, I'm on Tidal and only see the first one

[austere pilot]

Is Eris supposed to be hard to unlock as relationship ? i have legit everyone else completed but eris is still locked

[indigo cypress]

Ooh are we doing music rankings

[lyric zenith]

Big fan of Sprigs of Sorrow, Olympus Aflame, all of the siren songs (not really musically, but how they fit within the game for me).

[indigo cypress]

https://spotify.link/NyYzLViEuXb

[hollow lily]

add silver sisters to the pack cus everytime i hear it i get artemis whispering in my ear

[dull whale]

This is a goated list

[weary shore]

I like the Odysseus dialog ||if you play a siren song in the crossroads ||

[shrewd geyser]

I feel like it is a basic take but I just can’t deny the quality

[buoyant matrix]

eris summons are indifferent to your vown

[dull whale]

In the Blood is basic as heck sure but man what a good song

[shrewd geyser]

Are they? When I had menace on she summoned from Olympus and she even said “Aren’t you supposed to be in Olympus?”

[static drum]

I don't think I've ever seen her summon olympus enemies before, thats good to know i guess

[tulip herald]

reflection affection is so good

[tropic monolith]

I'm just irritated she can summon such wildly different strength enemies

Let's just throw some more rng into the runs

[buoyant matrix]

they are, how does she summon oceanus enemies?

[shrewd geyser]

I assumed that’s because Oceanus is L2 from below

[bronze marlin]

god, hippos that hide in the fire. BURN

[dull whale]

Would this have to do with Menace on the tablet? It already summons random enemies from other areas anyway

[hollow lily]

why tf is sightless shepard techno jazz in the end lmao

[static drum]

Thats why my initial post was confused about how she did so right after Circe removed my Vow of Menace

[dull whale]

Oh mb I missed that part

[swift flare]

i dun think Heighten Security EM Lernie is that hard lol

[shrewd geyser]

Not like a run killer or anything but damn that lava hurts

[latent flower]

What do you people think are the hardest achievements in this game?

[tropic monolith]

EM Lernie even with heightened security is easier than VoR Scylla tbh

[swift flare]

lava is easy enough to avoid, it takes 1 second delay before it start doing damage lol

[bronze marlin]

I'm glad we didn't get heightened security in hades 2. I would die in tartarus every time. running over traps like an idiot hah

[static drum]

VoR Prometheus is the hardest thing I've seen in the game thus far

[dull whale]

Me playing on Nintendo Switch 1 so I can't do these lol

[craggy widget]

has to be great chaos below

[swift flare]

and someone here earlier, Grassdew I think, thought Rival Prom is easy to learn lol

[latent flower]

Might be for the best actually

[lyric zenith]

Queen of Nightmares, obviously /s

[hollow lily]

thats just cus it would be hell in the final area. its already filled with traps there

[shrewd geyser]

I neva said that, I said VOR 1 and 2 are easy to learn

[swift flare]

AND try to convince us Frenzy 2 as well

[dull whale]

I unlocked VoR 3 last night so I'm super excited to get my ass handed to me by VoR Prom

[latent flower]

Have yet to unlock it but I understand it's a full rng run?

[static drum]

||Heracles rushing you down during the simon says attack can kinda suck it||

[lyric zenith]

It's full RNG and 20 random fear, p sure.

[craggy widget]

random keepsake every biome, random arcana, random aspect and random 20 fears

[shrewd geyser]

and random animal

[latent flower]

oof, that random fear sounds awful

[craggy widget]

oh ye that too

[lyric zenith]

Which I think is the highest fear requirements associated w/ achievements (I forget if silver is 24 or 16)

[swift flare]

i also find Prom annoying. Rival mode he can start spamming the missiles atk often

[static drum]

is that a trial?

[craggy widget]

yep

[lyric zenith]

Yes.

[bronze marlin]

can range from super easy to next to impossible. luck

[craggy widget]

what's second statue now, 16 down and 12 up?

[swift flare]

i think it's same as last time, it just requires the 2nd statue

[latent flower]

and you have to beat it twice back to back right?

[static drum]

yes

[dull whale]

Yeah

[craggy widget]

no that's a different one

[shrewd geyser]

No

[craggy widget]

ah, remember the days when statues were same fear both sides, 32 fear top side was not fun 😄

[static drum]

24 up is kinda curbstomping me atm, i've been trying to force a zeus/hestia cast build with aspect of circe but i don't think it's quite strong enough with what i'm going

[swift flare]

WHAT!? he can love game???

[nova oar]

What vows are you using

[bronze marlin]

after all the changes to the surface, I think it is not that bad anymore. surface is still harder by default, but not a lot

[lyric zenith]

Idk about next to impossible, but you can definitely low roll when the fear isn't manually selected.

[hollow lily]

i couldnt believe it!!!

[lyric zenith]

Wide variance, and can easily be much harder than 20 fear would be normally.

[latent flower]

WHich one is it then?

[static drum]

Grit 1 Menace 2 Fangs 2 Shadow 1 Forfeit 1 Time 2 Hubris 2 Rivals 2

[craggy widget]

idk if it's even an achievement, it's a prophecy at least

[shrewd geyser]

The greater chaos trials both took me more attempts than 32 and 24 heat easily

[latent flower]

Oh, so achievement is once and prophecy is two back to back

[craggy widget]

I miss panseidon 🙁

[latent flower]

sounds like a massive pain

[swift flare]

oh man, timer 3?

[shrewd geyser]

The prophecy doesn’t require the heat ones, just the normal chaos trial

[latent flower]

oh, got it

much better

[craggy widget]

I think it might actually be an achievement, "Improbable outcomes"

[bronze marlin]

just pray that chaos gives you DDs or strength at least. and... doesn't swap to antler in zone 2-4

[nova oar]

Take off grit put it on debt or revenant

[lyric zenith]

You can replace it w/ 1 level of frenzy very easily
or 2-ish levels of VoR.

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/faIsqUr

[swift flare]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDAsMSwzLDIsNSwxLDIsMiwwLDMsMCwxLDIsMl0=
I would do this for a super easy 24F

[lyric zenith]

Or 3 levels of void, be a based and epic judgement enjoyer.

[bronze marlin]

you really don't like frenzy eh? one is fine! try it 🙂

[craggy widget]

debt 2 on surface 💀

[kind wharf]

why is demonic cell only +5 power 💀

[swift flare]

less buying power is better than making all enemies 20% faster

[craggy widget]

or like you can run a dot cast to have free wards

[nova oar]

It is yeah, but frenzy 2 is fine

[crude dragon]

Frenzy 1 is much less of a drastic temperature adjustment than Frenzy 2

[shrewd geyser]

@swift flare would like you have a word with you about frenzy 2

[hollow lily]

wait wait gale goes up to level 10????

i thought max level for familiars was level 3

[crude dragon]

No, all familiars go to 10

[nova oar]

Does he not like frenzy 2, it's free fear

[craggy widget]

familiars have 3 upgrades of 3 levels each

[shrewd geyser]

THATS WHAT I SAID

[static drum]

3 levels for each of the 3 things, starting at level 1 means 10 total levels

[latent flower]

10 for all, start at level 1 then gain 1 for each point in skills, with 3 points per skill

[hollow lily]

oh so its 3x3. yeah nvm i did max then

cus this just popped up in my thread https://youtu.be/9NshCC7K91w?si=BlcvgYw_ESUo6YyQ

[swift flare]

if you showed me a run that you can with Frenzy2 with no real efforts, then I might believe u

[static drum]

on a whim i decided to throw on frenzy 2 to see if it really was free fear, and I have come to the conclusion that you people are not human

[bronze marlin]

hahaha it is NOT free at all!

[shrewd geyser]

It’s not free at first there is an adjustment period

[swift flare]

SOME people, please

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/vClBbRW

[crude dragon]

Wouldn't call it free, but it will become free once you learn all the new timings

[novel turtle]

uhhhh, i just had fig leaf proc even though I unequipped it 2 areas ago

[nova oar]

I've had it on for about 250 runs

[swift flare]

i promise you, this will not need a lot of adjustment to go through,

[bronze marlin]

that's normal. it works once per zone

[crude dragon]

Yeah, it's a persistent effect

[novel turtle]

That's awesome, I didn't realize it would still proc after unequiping

don't ask how I didn't clock it in Olympus I am slow™

[indigo cypress]

Frenzy 2 becomes free fear after the adjustment period, but it is not at all free fear for players starting out. If your goal is to go beyond 32F, I'd turn it up asap to get used to it. But if your goal is just to get statues, there's much easier setups

[buoyant matrix]

i do 32 fear for story and practice runs of course I'm not normal 😂

[nova oar]

You don't do 40? Weak

[buoyant matrix]

frenzy is very hard when starting out

[buoyant matrix]

if I'm gonna go higher i jump straight to 62 💯

[hollow lily]

games been out for like 1 month and mfs already beat 67 fear dawg lmao

[halcyon finch]

More like a year

[buoyant matrix]

those are experienced ea players

[swift flare]

62 fear seems to be the standard, i guess?

[nova oar]

Yeah people been training for a while

[hollow lily]

SO AM I GAMER

[limpid adder]

||Who does the singing if you kill Scylla first? I've always killed the drummer first so I'm curious||

[buoyant matrix]

yeah it's every vow put to max except void

[nova oar]

Absolutely not lmao we're joking

[static drum]

Okay after losing 2 death defiances to the satyr elite in ephyra i think i have decided that frenzy 2 is not for me

[swift flare]

not really, people beat 67 Fear before this game is officially out.

[crude dragon]

67 is every Vow including Void, 62 is excluding Void

[buoyant matrix]

roxy and jetty are always singing too, they keep going if you kill scylla

[shrewd geyser]

Jetty has some lines but you also can’t kill scylla before anyone else, so her just from inside her shell

[buoyant matrix]

that's... what i said

[tulip herald]

can you even kill scylla? she just goes into shell

[indigo cypress]

Pretty sure Scylla's vocals are still on the track too since she's technically alive after p2, she's just muffled

[crude dragon]

Kill as in get her to her health gate

[swift flare]

fun fact, Mel hardly "kill

[neon hull]

||tried to beat chronos last night, got to the second phase and then he killed me with two AOE attacks that i couldn't dodge (or maybe i'm just not doing it right idk). any advice on how to get past the second phase?||

[buoyant matrix]

the other girls' vocals become much more prominent though

[shrewd geyser]

Run to the circle, each number on the clock has a circle, and during the big red scary AOE, you need to go to one or you will be one shot

[buoyant matrix]

which aoe attack in particular, did the whole floor become red or black?

[tulip herald]

What did the attack look like?

[swift flare]

Hecate obvious no, Scylla she hide in shell, Infernal beast it ran away, Chronos first real kill

[nova oar]

Even then the mf just comes back