h2-discussion

[still dagger]

although, I do enjoy it, for relaxing

[heavy glen]

do you only play one game at a time?

[crude dragon]

Also, in case you're not doing this already, don't bother pulling multiple pins. Just doing them one at a time to keep the explosions rolling is better

[heavy glen]

what genres do you like best?

[hearty timber]

I understand now, load one pin and special immediately

[still dagger]

I usually cycle, but then I forget about beating campaign-based games

[heavy glen]

i like platformers, action-adventures, and rpgs

[still dagger]

I used to be action/adventure rpg. but then my job got stressful so I can't handle those lol. now I'm kind of like games that I can just fire up like rogue-likes, or managament games like frost punk or against the storm

[craggy totem]

How often do runners use the omega vs just hucking skulls into a dude?

[still dagger]

I usually forget the skull has an omega

[crude dragon]

Speedrunners? You toss a single Omege to proc Huntress and then just go to town

[hearty timber]

Perfecttt

[tranquil wren]

oh huh I never realised it's beneficial to not have magick regen for those kinds of builds because of huntress

[craggy totem]

I mean, idk about speedrunners, but if I'm running torch I want magic regen no matter what, I'm gonna be chewing through that all the time

[raw mortar]

its not fun unless i kinda master it

[tranquil wren]

my brain just expanded

[crude dragon]

It's not a ton of damage, but it gets the ball rolling

[raw mortar]

most games get more fun the deeper you go

[crude dragon]

I just carved a new wrinkle

[hearty timber]

I think it will help set up the immediate blitz pop on the medea attack chain since the special hits first

[raw mortar]

i spent more than a thousand hrs on minecraft picket edition

[wind heron]

oh zag is the god of blood?
neat

[crude dragon]

Yes, be sure to get him plenty of blood

He needs it with how often he bleeds :3

[prisma monolith]

in the best way possible, this is a weird way to play games, but hey if thats what you enjoy doing, go for it

[hearty timber]

|| It will be a funny interaction if you go fight zag at a really high fear (60+) and he's got a really high heat on as well so you both are giga buffed ||

[prisma monolith]

i play as long as is fun

be it 5 hrs or 1k

[crude dragon]

||He actually has dialogue about digging out the Pact of Punishment to buff Mel up after Mel mentions she's buffing him up with the Oath of the Unseen||

[hearty timber]

Yesss lol that would be so good, especially since he can hit you with || boiling blood ||

[craggy totem]

OMG, but he never actually does? ||Wowwww I can't believe he's trying to beat up his little sister while SHE gives HIM the advantage. Wowwwww.||

[prisma monolith]

ofc he doesnt

[craggy totem]

SMH ||world's worst big brother smh smh my dang head||

[crude dragon]

That'd be a bit too much dev work for Supergiant when they seem ready to move on

[craggy totem]

(it's a joke)

[heavy glen]

lol i had already exhausted all of athena's boons by the time i gave her my second nectar so the prophecy was fulfilled immediately

[tranquil wren]

me with poseidon's denizens of the deep

[raw mortar]

idk man, I just don't enjoy ONLY doing the main quest in skyrim and then playing the next game, its much more fun to do the side content too

[crude dragon]

||Just add it to the list, right under "stole the show in Mel's own game"|| :3

[heavy glen]

(i had really bad luck meeting her without any nectars XD)

[heavy glen]

you think he had a minor prophecy about that

[prisma monolith]

hey as long as youre enjoying it

[raw mortar]

we had hades 1 and 2, when is zeus 1 coming, or maybe babayaga 1?

[prisma monolith]

my question is, what about if you finish everything before the 100 hrs

[raw mortar]

the drawback is missing out on a lot of games, since theres too many good ones

[crude dragon]

Baba Yaga is just Ravenswatch

[raw mortar]

the hrs isnt unconditional, its just an estimate of how long it usually takes

[prisma monolith]

understandable

[raw mortar]

I only have until like 2040 to play all the games 😭

[pastel lava]

i got white antler during my random chaos run so can i not gain any more max lfie in this region and will i get my old max life back when it changes?

[crude dragon]

You can but it will not be shown until it expires, and yes

I am once again asking Supergiant why they didn't just make White Antler prime your HP down to 30 so people don't get confused by the fact that you can still technically gain max HP while under its effect

[hearty timber]

Yeah people be skipping hp rooms lol

[pastel lava]

oke thanks

[tropic monolith]

their messaging of status effects is not quite on point

One of the few weaknesses the game has, fortunately just cosmetic

[hearty timber]

Every game needs a wiki

[tropic monolith]

(Inventory menus are another. Why don't the seeds start with the earliest one available to actually plant selected?? Or gifts?)

[tropic monolith]

they should do like ArenaNet does and host the wikis for all their games themselves, with a community team that actually manages it for them so all that's needed from Supergiant is the servers and someone to apply the server patches when the community team lets them know it's needed

[split shuttle]

i think u replied to the wrong message

[plain remnant]

Anyone else actually really like judgment?

[devout cairn]

nope

[fair patrol]

Death to Chronos.

[hearty timber]

Yes I did, i thought of a perfect fear setup for you but then saw you didn't want fear

[plain remnant]

YOOO I'm the only one 🎉🎉🎉

[fair patrol]

In the name of Hades! Olympus! I accept this message.

[plain remnant]

Haha another!

[heavy glen]

I do, it's fun

[prisma monolith]

what happens in 2040

[heavy glen]

i don't use it often but when i do it's fun

[fair patrol]

Time cannot be stopped.

[plain remnant]

I turn 38 🥲

[hearty timber]

The gods watching speedrunner melinoe complete the entire underworld route in 4 minutes 46 seconds

[prisma monolith]

damn im sorry

[plain remnant]

We need to stop chronos

[raw mortar]

pretty sure a lot of people will have died by then, i mean the studies say 4 billion will die by 2050 due to enviromental factors

[devout cairn]

the studies

[prisma monolith]

lol

i say screw the studies and write our own fate

[plain remnant]

... You think 50% of the human population will die in 25 years due to strictly environmental factors?

[prisma monolith]

just dont study kids

[hearty timber]

Atrophos smiling from the void

[prisma monolith]

Hera: Very effecient, dear

[raw mortar]

there was an article just the other day, but its kinda undeniable that humans wont be able to adapt to our slef induced climate disaster lol

[plain remnant]

Whaaa

[prisma monolith]

im built different

[plain remnant]

I'm not a denialist but that's such bs 🤣😭

[tropic monolith]

won't, not couldn't

[fair patrol]

Return to shadow, now!

[raw mortar]

climate disasters snowball, the stuff weve seen happening the past few years like almost all of (bangladesh?) disappearing in a mud flood is kinda like the start, or all those hurricanes over the usa

[prisma monolith]

im a gamer, i respawn

[raw mortar]

bigger problems are like the ocean being effed tho, and all our farmlands running out of nutrients due to bad farming practices

[hearty timber]

Return to shadow, now

[plain remnant]

Bangladesh has increased by 6 million people in the past 5 years, that's a London...

[prisma monolith]

so is bangladesh fault

[tropic monolith]

I'm actually not clear how this saves her when the damage is fatal

[prisma monolith]

she casts it before fatal damage

[tropic monolith]

of course, of course

Ignore me eating 999 damage with no death defies over here

[reef cedar]

Once you've bonded with skelly and ||Gifted Medea||, is there any other reason to go up in progressing the story? Or should it save until after I've "rolled credits"?

[prisma monolith]

fun

[raw mortar]

either way im just saying i prolly wont be able to game at 60 years old because ill probably die in some climate disaster by 40

[hearty timber]

You need to go up to actually roll the credits

[prisma monolith]

^

[plain remnant]

A doomist mentality is never a healthy mentality.
Earth's in a bad state, it's not that bad of a state.

[reef cedar]

OK! I'm just thinking about the order I do things. I've been up enough times for ||Zeus and Hera to explicitly say I'm better off focusing on downstairs.||

[prisma monolith]

game will tell you what to do

[hearty timber]

You need to defeat the final boss of the surface 7 times I think

[prisma monolith]

pretty sure is 4

[hearty timber]

Ohh right lol, it is 7 to get the alter fate incantation

[prisma monolith]

but thats not story

[raw mortar]

thats true, theres still hope if every country on earth immedieately cooperates to stop it, gotta need something more drastic that hurts short term profits for that though

[prisma monolith]

alter fate is just to reroll seed

[reef cedar]

That's after achieving 1.0 topside location for the first time, right?

[split shuttle]

what were u gonna give me, im curious

[plain remnant]

Also just googled what WHO thinks,

They estimate 250k annually between 2030 to 2050, which is 5,000,000 which is a much smaller number than 4,000,000,000

[jolly wing]

If it's Night 1 early in your run, would you pick a Common Sea Star or Rare Buried Treasure? Let's say you're good enough to beat first 3 Guardians.

[prisma monolith]

dont see why not

[hearty timber]

Max pain
Max grit
Max hordes
Max frenzy
Void
Max rivals
Denial

[split shuttle]

that's atrocious

[crude dragon]

Snea Snar has more potential, Treasure would be safer

[storm glen]

treasure

[split shuttle]

thank god i didn't let u guys pick the fear

[storm glen]

money is important i think

[tropic monolith]

don't "u guys" me I disagree with that lol

[prisma monolith]

i bestow on you, manual breathing

[hearty timber]

Yesss lol, then I understood why you didn't want us to give you the fear, since the rest of the run will also be determined by other players

[jolly wing]

That could be right, I haven't reached mid shop yet. I currently don't have Gold to buy a boon.

[crude dragon]

Twitch Plays Hades 2

[prisma monolith]

theres a mod for this

[split shuttle]

i didn't end up doing it anyway, nobody ended up joining it, eh ill just do it tomorrow

istg there better be people joining it

[hearty timber]

I have so much work this week 😭

[raw mortar]

optimists haha

[plain remnant]

I mean it is 0.1% of where ever you pulled your figure from 🤣

[raw mortar]

World Health Organization (WHO) estimate suggests approximately 250,000 additional deaths per year between 2030 and 2050 from causes like malnutrition, malaria, diarrhea, and heat stress. The total could be much higher if indirect effects like air pollution from fossil fuels are included

@plain remnant only includes a couple things like

i feel polltion might be a big contributor tbh

displacement due to rising sea levels is kinda crazy too

[jolly wing]

Aphrodite does appear on Night 1, right?

[plain remnant]

That's not talking about climate disasters (which I presumed you meant climate events like flooding, typhoons, heatwave and food shortages) though, that's more onto exposure to unclean air correlates to life threatening conditions.

[devout cairn]

true true true and yeah that's pretty true what about that aspect of nergal though

[raw mortar]

kinda hard to exclude some things but you get my point, weve been breaking some of the worst case scenarios already and more and more evidence for the collapse being exponential gets found every year, just like a tiny snowball rolling down a hill

[split shuttle]

kinda cheeks without psychic whirlwind

[devout cairn]

wrong

[split shuttle]

im talking about high fear (50+)

without psychic it's cheeks

[devout cairn]

high fear players

[split shuttle]

low fear, its amazing

but psychic is basically like needed for nergal to feel good tbh

[plain remnant]

Hmm, a 50% population crisis would have to be MAJOR famines in both China and India. And I don't see that happening.

Anyways this is Hades 2 chat, so probably not the place to discuss doom unless in relation to moros 🤣

[split shuttle]

unless ur doing giga cleaver omega special

[raw mortar]

never gonna see hades 6 😭

[devout cairn]

i only did 32 so i wouldn't know, im just in love with nergal's animations, also the special is so much more satisfying

[split shuttle]

true

healing that also bypasses scars is also broken

won a 58 fear underworld nergal run just cuz berserk healing is broken

even more so with iron core

[devout cairn]

i was practicing frenzy 2 and the healing + ares's healing saved my a** on the unrivaled scylla fight 🔥

that thing is funny

[split shuttle]

true, berserk saved my ass during max frenzy rivals scylla

[devout cairn]

how did you type ass...

wtf that word isnt banned? ive been lied to

[split shuttle]

i think ur having a stroke

[devout cairn]

i guess dyno bot isnt that bad

[split shuttle]

but like charon is still the no 1 axe aspect imo

[heavy glen]

nemesis has a potty mouth, she can say it

[split shuttle]

charon doesn't need a hammer to feel good

id say all axe aspects fall into the problem of relies on a hammer too much except charon

[brave cobalt]

Hit credits after 51 runs from new file after 100+ runs in Early Access. It's my GOTY this year. Not even a question.

[split shuttle]

mel axe needs dashing heave and than and nergal need psychic to feel good

[dusky yew]

The Tiny Vermin... I can never tell when it's about to strike me, it's way too small and it makes no noise when it's going to attack, so I can rarely dodge his movements. I try to guess because it stops for like less than a second before attacking, but it's so small and there's so much going on around it it's really difficult to try to perceive. It really needs a sound or something, right?

[devout cairn]

His tells are kinda of unreliable. Just attack a bit and back off, he has the dash and the jump

I do think he needs better tells though but after a while the fight is free

[dusky yew]

I think I might just be blind lol

[jagged mirage]

How many lenses are needed for entropy?

[devout cairn]

nah i think it's intentionally made that way, you dodge it more on knowledge than reaction

atleast I do

[shrewd geyser]

anyone know how many prophecies are on the fated list?

[vague siren]

hey, i think i have a glitch. For some reason, i can't give Echo a bottle of nector despite having talked to her several times now (i've literally beaten the main story).

[pastel lava]

is gigaros dash bugged to not proc origination im not getting the icon for it when i apply scorn?

[crude dragon]

Hades isn't considered an Olympian for the purposes of applying Origination

[pastel lava]

ah right my bad guess i missed that part of the text in my head it was jsut 2 curses = big dmg

[shrewd geyser]

tryna figure out if I have 100% the fated list

[unreal hare]

just got a 7:29 run and i fumbled it so hard 😭 (still my best time yet)

[gaunt plinth]

i had this issue, you have to give it to her AFTER you take the reward

[manic relic]

Is there an issue getting Dionysis Sticker?

[muted olive]

Ok im officially tilted by zagreuses stupid circle attack are you fing kidding me???

[manic relic]

I seem to have ran out of dialogue

[muted olive]

50 damage? Also why does he have SO MUCH HEALTH AT THE SECOND FLOOR

[buoyant matrix]

10k first phase, 5k second

[muted olive]

Bland ass drawn out fight that punishes you way too hard

[shrewd geyser]

did you get hit with his cast?

[muted olive]

No never how much is that

[shrewd geyser]

I think you are overreacting rn, it's a very easy fight and it's also optional, comparable to the Charon fight in the first game, if you get hit by his cast, you take extra damage from him

[muted olive]

Charon felt fun this one is bland

[shrewd geyser]

He has boiling blood from the first game

if you eat a cast then let him hit you, you will die very fast

[muted olive]

Bro it deals 50 health without cast

What are you on about i have 70 hp its ridiculous

[shrewd geyser]

then don't take it on a run you can't beat him, it's not that crazy fr

[muted olive]

I just find it not a fun fight

Bland and way too punishing for something that appears on the second floor

[shrewd geyser]

i like it, it's a taste of hades from the first game

[muted olive]

I have 100% on the first game this does not feel like the first game

[shrewd geyser]

i have 100% on both

[muted olive]

Hades was appropriately paced always they would never give you 50 damage boss on floor 2

[shrewd geyser]

charon could literally chunk you

[vague siren]

ah

[muted olive]

His attack also had a long windup and only hit in a line in front of him?

Instead of a full ass circle around zagreus

[shrewd geyser]

idk man i think I been hit by that once

[muted olive]

I just don’t like it i liked every other boss in the first game and every other boss in this game

[crude dragon]

Besides Charon, but you had to opt into that

[shrewd geyser]

that's what im saying, the zag fight feel on par with the charon fight to me, if not a little harder mostly cause of boiling blood

but the reward is also much greater

[muted olive]

In the first game you usually had 200 health by that point tho

[crude dragon]

Not if you got him in the Tartarus midshop

[muted olive]

And res’d at like what 100 or something not like in this game

[crude dragon]

You'd have the base 100, 150 if you took Arthur that run

[shrewd geyser]

Arthur my beloved

[muted olive]

I just looked it up charon only dealt 30

He was SO much easier yall gaslighting me 30 vs 50 is a gigantic difference

This fight is just bland overtuned bs

[shrewd geyser]

he also has more health

more range and AOE, and that 30 is a double swipe

[muted olive]

And you still have atleast 100

[hollow lily]

Hey guys, tell Poseidon to throw some fish my way on this ferry. It's 4 hours long and I want to catch smthn

[muted olive]

Hp minum 4 hits here with your 70, 100 if you get hp up

Its 2 shot bro va 4 shot

Its a huge difference stop coping please all of you

[cyan tangle]

do yall think there will be a discount on the game?

[shrewd geyser]

brother you are malding over a comparable boss in my opinion, the toolset in this game allows for playstyles that can easily take care of zag

[hollow lily]

Yes. Just not today

[cyan tangle]

alright tysm

[muted olive]

Yes let just excuse every bad game design because just dont get hit

CONGRATS YOU WIN THE INTERNET CONGRATULATIONS 🎊🍾🎉

[shrewd geyser]

lets just blame it on game design because we are bad

[muted olive]

Making a boss 2 shot me is not fun its bad game design makes me play unnecessarily slow because its too punishing

[shrewd geyser]

• Takes optional post game boss
• Dies
• What the heck when he hits me I die

[limpid python]

just got done with a personal thing i wanted to fullfill for a while. lsd and hades is a match made in heaven

[hollow lily]

Ok ppl settle tf down. I'll be the judge. What is this about

[muted olive]

Who told you i even died you’re making stuff up bro

[shrewd geyser]

Skele thinks the zag fight is unfair and poorly designed

[muted olive]

He took my res sure i didn’t die like holy the damn balls on this bobblehead

[hollow lily]

God damn it I haven't reached it yet.

Either way it cant be as hard as rivaled eris

Or rivaled Charon.

[shrewd geyser]

Rivals eris does hit pretty damn hard

[muted olive]

Rivaled eris is a third floor boss fight not a second floor first shop fight

[shrewd geyser]

wrong? Eris is the second floor

[heavy glen]

there's a rival charon?

[rough horizon]

Any reason to gift ||Nyx after the first one to add her to the book?||

[muted olive]

Oh my bad idk why i keep thinking of her as second lol

[shrewd geyser]

i dont even know if you can

[crude dragon]

Dialogue

[hollow lily]

Rivaled eris makes me wanna kms

[steel willow]

Anyone else think after you "beat the game" you should be able to do a run through the Hades 1 route?

[muted olive]

YES

[crude dragon]

Just because of how tiny the arena is, or are you having trouble with the mines?

[muted olive]

I want to do this sooooo bad id pay another tenner if they let me do that

[shrewd geyser]

I think it's just the damage you take when the laser taps you

-30 for one little brush against it 💀

[muted olive]

Bro will complain about 30 but wont agree 50 is too much

[shrewd geyser]

I'm not complaining, I didn't say Rivals eris was hard

[muted olive]

Okay clearly critical thinking is not your strong suite i’m done here waste of time

[steel willow]

Like even if you fight zag in Elysium it'll be worth it

[hollow lily]

Just when I thought I understood her move set and planned around it she hit me with the 3dd fck up. Mind you I've beaten her like 5 times before with 15 fear I just. Its those fkin mines that piss me off the most

[shrewd geyser]

I was saying why Sand Nuke thinks it is buddy, Zagreus is a compeltely optional boss, which gives you a ton of bonus rewards for completeing him

[hollow lily]

Eris is Pretty interesting rivaled option cus supergiant decided that to limit the arena geometry and buff all her AOE attacks

[crude dragon]

I assume you just weren't in a good enough position to pop them?

[shrewd geyser]

you gotta try to stack as many as possible in one spot when she is still firing them, so you leave yourself more of the arena

[crude dragon]

Also, they still don't count as lock-on targets for the Coat, do they

[hollow lily]

I thought you popped them too. Until I hit an lframe in and out of them and only the rings hit me. I was thrown off that instant

[hollow lily]

That's true, but I planned around dashing through them popping them.

[crude dragon]

Ah, the mental blue screen. Completely understandable

But yeah, ranged attacks are the best way to pop them

[hollow lily]

You can hit em with a special???

[crude dragon]

Or in Nergal's case, the spin is just big enough

[shrewd geyser]

Praise Nergal

[crude dragon]

Yeah, they work like the Lucifer mines in the first game and will go off when you hit the orb with damage

[hollow lily]

Nergal Thanatos Charon best aspects imo

[shrewd geyser]

Hel is really fun

[hollow lily]

I honestly did not know that. This changes things

[hollow lily]

You mean Mel right?

[shrewd geyser]

i really like the hidden dagger aspect too

Nah Hel

[hollow lily]

Is that an axe aspect dawg?

[crude dragon]

Hel is the hidden Skull emoji

[hollow lily]

I'm only versed in axe and sister blades.

[shrewd geyser]

no i thought you were just talking about aspects in general and just really like the axe lmao

[reef cedar]

Which god do I need for blessings for the Night Bloom hex?

[crude dragon]

Hera

[shrewd geyser]

Hera

[crude dragon]

If you bring it to Unrivaled Prometheus, the boss gets special dialogue

[hollow lily]

Yeahhhh my bad og. I'm only versed in my main 3. The other 4 feel... Idk they feel like 4 different types of the adamant rail just without reloading

[shrewd geyser]

wait you can use it there i never even thought of that

[hollow lily]

Rivaled Prometheus was hard for me to get over until I saw the Mandrake roots.

In which case it became the regular rhythm of dodge and attack.

[crude dragon]

I'm talking about Jimbo, not the cyclops from Goodfellas

[shrewd geyser]

Stinky Polyphemus

[heavy glen]

as a kid i got the odyssey mixed up with a sesame street scherezade retelling where she told the story of sinbad, who in this version of the story had to wind a cyclops' yo-yo

so for a while i imagined odysseus as sounding like grover

Nobody has stolen my Yo-yo
I SAID, Nobody has stolen my Yo-Yo!

[hollow lily]

How tf did I mix sheepman and promo-code discount. Must've been autocorrect

[craggy totem]

Axe enjoyers are mysterious to me. We are like aliens to one another.

[shrewd geyser]

im an enjoyer of all weapons

[craggy totem]

I come in peace, aliens! /aliens away alienly

[swift mason]

So I have a question about 1.0 ||at the top hera mentions that a son had a solution prepared if stuff got worse, will they explain that later?||

[hollow lily]

Go right ahead. I maxed all mine to rank 5

[shrewd geyser]

kinda, it's not a serious plot point

[swift mason]

I figured, was just really curious on what it was, and which son

[heavy glen]

a little, ||it's from hephaeastus and it's implied whatever it is is basically a nuclear weapon that'd destroy the mountain||

[craggy totem]

I mean, I'll probably max every weapon at some point just because of having enough resources accumulated to afford it, but it ain't mean I'ma like playing them all :D

[hollow lily]

Man i wish supergiant included more incest in the lore...

[shrewd geyser]

It's kinda left up to interpretation, I imagine an explosion

[craggy totem]

Honestly I get wanting to vanillify things when you're trying to make the characters somewhat likeable, but it is funny to me how much you have to do to make the Greek divinities likeable lmao

[hollow lily]

Maybe the next game is 18+ instead of the Teen rating they're always going for. I wanna see Greg stretch his vocabulary

[shrewd geyser]

I just recently got the line from Hera saying that Hyperion is her Demeter and Hestia's dad... still incest but a lot less worse

[hollow lily]

With Aphrodite's depiction in game. I'm not complaining.

[fiery dew]

Hello! I'm new here! 👋

[hollow lily]

Nevermind the fact that Aphrodite is they Product of incest

[shrewd geyser]

nuh uh

[craggy totem]

Excuse you! I was merely accurately describing the nature of mythological Poseidon; i.e., a Very Unpleasant Personage

[crude dragon]

Well... Unless they're going for the one where she was born from the remains of Ouranos

[shrewd geyser]

Aphrodite was born from the severed bag of Uranus and the ocean foam, she's free game for anyone

[hollow lily]

#h2-for-new-players is that Way

[ionic void]

afaik, the myth is they are the result of the seafoam from ouranos's balls being cut off and thrown in the ocean

[crude dragon]

One of the more famous myths is that, yes

[fiery dew]

Oh no, I'm new on this server. I played a bunch of H2. I'm Night's Champion!

[hollow lily]

The sea foam is Uranus fckin pp bro

[heavy glen]

Congrats!

[shrewd geyser]

why did a sack create such a babe

[hollow lily]

Castrated by chronos too,

[heavy glen]

demeter later picked up cronus' scythe and used it to harvest wheat

[fiery dew]

32 fear Chronos was quite the run. I don't think I'll be playing at that much fear again. But it was fun!

[hollow lily]

So you're saying i can impregnate the ocean? Bet

[shrewd geyser]

i still need to do my 32 fear runs, that's all i have left in the game

[hollow lily]

Gonna be tough to castrate myself for this. But the ends justify the means

[fiery dew]

Man, I got so much left to do. I haven't even unlocked all the animals yet. I thought I had, but I didn't get the achievement and there's an empty spot on the training grounds.

[hollow lily]

I bet it's gale

[shrewd geyser]

Different priorities, I have the game virtually 100%ed

[heavy glen]

yeah, gale took forever to show up

[fiery dew]

No, I got gale.

[shrewd geyser]

I bet its Raki

[craggy totem]

What familiars do you have?

[heavy glen]

or maybe i was just bad at noticing her

[hollow lily]

Gale is the only I got left.

[fiery dew]

I'm missing the one next to Frinos.

[craggy totem]

Yeah, that's Raki.

[heavy glen]

toula the cat?

[shrewd geyser]

Raki is my GOAT

[hollow lily]

Toula comes after raki

[craggy totem]

Surely Raki's your BIRB (Best In Real Builds)

[fiery dew]

Yeah Raki doesn't ring a bell. Must be it. I guess it'll show up eventually. I keep going everywhere giving everyone nectar and ambrosia.

[hollow lily]

No comment on gale I haven't got him yet. But frinos raki toula are my top 3. And even then. Toula makes me want to skin her alive.

[heavy glen]

toula is my best girl. she loves to fish

[shrewd geyser]

Raki can be found ||in a fountain room in Erebus||

[fiery dew]

I like Hecuba. Magic is a good buff.

[heavy glen]

also it's hilarious to see her curled up asleep during bosses

[hollow lily]

The only thing she's good for.

[shrewd geyser]

Toula is the Circe aspect pet for me and not much else

[heavy glen]

her death defiance has helped me too

[fiery dew]

I don't think I wanna read that, thank you for using the spoiler tag.

[hollow lily]

The circe aspect is staff only right?

[heavy glen]

she gave me one of her extra lives

[hollow lily]

I need to start playing with the staff.. I literally only main the axe and blades

[heavy glen]

if you still can't find raki it might be related to some incantations left to do ||to create a fountain room in erebus||

[shrewd geyser]

Yeah it's is the Staff, it's very fun

[hollow lily]

Gotcha bro. Don't pong me

Hecuba is useless unless he digs up centaur hearts

[nova oar]

What

[hollow lily]

Hi Shiva

[prisma monolith]

hecuba increases your max mana just by existing, how is she useless

[shrewd geyser]

Hecuba is very good on magic spend builds and her stun counts for origination

[nova oar]

He gives you all the magic you could ever need plus can regen it

[granite wigeon]

wow im running apsect of the shop guy, i have appoloes after cast expires do chunk of dmg, aries omega attack cause sword thingy, zeus attack and omega attack activiates blitz,

so i go in dash attack, place a cast and omega special

[hollow lily]

The second i get cardio gain or Aphrodites magick Regen nothing other than hp matters to me

[shrewd geyser]

you get those every run?

[granite wigeon]

pretty strong me thinks, im looking to get apollo on the special just for damage

[shrewd geyser]

Bro is NOT at Fates Whim smh

[prisma monolith]

on god

[nova oar]

Ok but these are pretty bad magic regen boons for playing smth magic heavy

[fiery dew]

Again, I won't be reading that. Thank you for using the spoiler tag. I'll find it eventually, and I'll do my own research if I don't. I'm gonna need all achievements on Steam, so I still have a ways to go. There are also plenty of unfinished prophecies for me.

[prisma monolith]

also, imagine relying on aphrodite gain for mana regen, insanity

[shrewd geyser]

that perk is only good for orig on gah

[granite wigeon]

hm do i want air quality with this build, eveyr hit does several hundred anyway

[fiery dew]

Can we agree that Heph is the worst Magick-regen boon?

[nova oar]

Free origination is nice but I only take it to fill the slot

[nova oar]

Depends, at low fear i would say ares is worse

[hollow lily]

Very often tbh. I find myself always going for her.

[craggy totem]

It's perfectly fine for a non magic-heavy build, I would say?

[prisma monolith]

for non mana, yes

[cunning warren]

Why do people say Hera magick recovery is the best

[prisma monolith]

because it gives you full mana back, no work needed

[nova oar]

Because it's the fastest/most efficient

[shrewd geyser]

Hera is the best if you have a big pool, but in a long boss fight it is poop

[fiery dew]

Because it's pretty much free unless you're against a boss.

[hollow lily]

If ur heavy into magic sure, but for me I main axe and sister blades. Most magic Regen are either time based or attack based. Which works out really lovely for them. Even if you prime magic

[prisma monolith]

even against bosses, just gotta make sure you dont drag the fight

[nova oar]

It's less effective with things like hubris

[fiery dew]

I like Apollo Magick-regen actually.

[cunning warren]

Ya exactly idk why people overrate it so much I much prefer Apollo or hestia

[heavy glen]

"aspect of the shop guy' keeps making me laugh

[shrewd geyser]

I ran out of mana in Extreme Measure Scylla and died it was so tragic

[granite wigeon]

oh air quality mgiht be good on the axe's special, so i can get some chip while charging special

[nova oar]

Ok well if you're only playing those 2 weapons then you're not gonna use most of the omega system

[heavy glen]

orpheus will write an epic in commemoration

[nova oar]

Not worth it

[hollow lily]

Way to belittle me lmao

[prisma monolith]

point being, hecuba isnt useless

you dont have to like her, that doesnt make her bad

[nova oar]

I'm just saying, unless you play charon you're not gonna use magic for very much, you can't say smth is useless just because you don't use it

[fiery dew]

Extreme measure Chronos was actually not as terrifying as I had feared. It is very difficult, but I'd almost prefer it to extreme measure Prometheus... 👀

[granite wigeon]

bruh i died to eris lol

[prisma monolith]

[shrewd geyser]

I think EM Scylla and Prom can be run enders if you aren't setup right

[hollow lily]

Actually nvm. Hecuba is not as useless as toula. I retract my statement

[granite wigeon]

axe omega special is such sitting duck lol

[fiery dew]

Agreed. The sirens are deadly AF.

[nova oar]

I'd take surface vor over vor chronos any day of the week

[prisma monolith]

yummers
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391754174026223728/1427377377914261715/image.png?ex=68eea446&is=68ed52c6&hm=8405973b0ba102d48635f01b540bfe744e7f648dee2d603427b37a002173e9c0&

[shrewd geyser]

Embed fail

[prisma monolith]

it was intended, but ok

[nova oar]

Double Hermes

[prisma monolith]

that makes 3 this run

[nova oar]

You can't embed here

[shrewd geyser]

I know lol, I’m sorry I was joking

[fiery dew]

Yeah, but both surface and underworld extreme measure final bosses are epic experiences! I actually thought I had to beat them to fulfill the prophecy, but SG are very nice, you just have to reach them. I did beat them, but I'm glad I didn't have to.

[shrewd geyser]

How do you feel about 32 heat and Fear not being chieves?

[nova oar]

I just hate vor chronos cause be keeps ending my 55f runs, I got so close last night, no hit cerb, died to the very end of p3

[nova oar]

It's good that 100% is easier to get for most players, and also good that they give you a statue and night's champion for doing it

[fiery dew]

I'm a bit too boomer for that lingo 😅 chieves? As in there's no achievement for beating it or..?

[prisma monolith]

make that 4

[nova oar]

Bro is fast asf

[prisma monolith]

dont think ive ever reached 4

[fiery dew]

Wow, you play 55 fear? 😮 Wild stuff, very cool!

[shrewd geyser]

Yeah you don’t get an achievement for completing it. I also think it’s nice that’s it’s more widely 100%-able but I do wish there was something to flex

[nova oar]

Unfortunately

[nova oar]

You get the statue and the thing on the fear screen 🤷‍♀️

[shrewd geyser]

What aspect do you like running high heat

[nova oar]

Atm? Circe, you get some bonkers damage

[fiery dew]

I think that's fine honestly. I like that it makes 100% doable for most people, achievement-wise and you can still brag about being Night's Champion! 🏆

[hollow lily]

Yep.. either time it well or Don't do it at all

[cunning warren]

I wish the daggers had more fun aspects

[shrewd geyser]

I am really addicted to Anubis with apollo but I feel like it’s mediocre at high heat

[cunning warren]

Considering it's like the poster weapon

[hollow lily]

Sister blades

[jolly hound]

I timed out on my first attempt (nobody told me not to do em4 for my first 32 in hades 1, so I did, and now it has to be this way for the sequel)… timing out made me sad

[nova oar]

Staff is really good at high fear

[jolly hound]

I did clear 24 with it and it was like…trivial (93 percent chaos boon helps a lot to)

[fiery dew]

What is y'all's favourite weapon? (Any aspect)

[cunning warren]

Thanatos axe solely for drip

[shrewd geyser]

I haven’t done any very high heats yet, but I’m glad it holds up. My favs are Nergal and Anubis

[nova oar]

Shiva

[native thicket]

shiva my beloved

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/xSPZVQu

[jolly hound]

Medea skulls, I’ve only scratched the surface of its power and I can tell it’s gonna be lit. I am gonna try shiva next tho just unlocked it

[hollow lily]

Artemis nergal Thanatos. I wanna try Morrigan but haven't done so yet

[fiery dew]

This is so great, we all have different favourites. I like Moros torches!

[jolly hound]

also surprisingly Eos torches

[cunning warren]

Eos torches slap

[shrewd geyser]

Morrigan is very fun, I just had a build with it with heph attack on 2 sec cooldown and the hammer that makes the omega has +300 power

[fiery dew]

I really like most torches to be honest

[nova oar]

Moros torches are best torches imo

[shrewd geyser]

I think Daybreak is also just crazy, but falls off as your timer gets shorter

[cunning warren]

Ya moros and Medea I think are the easiest aspects to get online

[native thicket]

eos is really good with night arcana

[nova oar]

Eos is a good aspect but harder to play at high fear than smth like supay or moros, but people have still done well with it

[fiery dew]

I have neglected so many aspects, there are so many left on my list of minor prophecies 😂

[nova oar]

Do all of them at 32f

[shrewd geyser]

I think every weapon has 2 very powerful aspects

[cunning warren]

Selene special omega spam is also fun

[nova oar]

Every aspect is powerful

[fiery dew]

Nah, I'm good. I'm casual. I just play for fun, I think I'm fine with ~20 fear on most.

[nova oar]

Fair enough

[hollow lily]

God damn. That heph boon that makes ur cast hit 3 times in a Row Is so fckin op it's crazy

[shrewd geyser]

True but I mean two that are clearly standouts, that you don’t need a 70% build to succeed with

[shrewd geyser]

I would omega attack and deal 900 dmg, then proc the morrigan hit for 777 more

[nova oar]

Yeah but i feel like it does no damage compared to some casts, plus no curse

[shrewd geyser]

And that’s without crits

[nova oar]

Haelian put heph morrigan blades on his 6 most broken builds so yeah it's really good

[swift mason]

I wonder is there a special interaction if I just ignore chronos after beating hecate?

[nova oar]

Not really

[shrewd geyser]

I hadn’t seen that part I watched a little of that vid but that absolutely tracks

[hollow lily]

So many other boons inflict curse that I feel like its fine to skip out one 1 single boon for a heph special.

Pick 2 curses and you activate the arcana card anyway

[nova oar]

Heph cast is fine i just don't like it

[shrewd geyser]

It feels underwhelming in comparison is all

[craggy totem]

Heph is one of the casts that synergizes well with Apollo's expanding casts boon, right?

Since its effect isn't only at the beginning?

[nova oar]

I think it was zeus cast on circe, heph morrigan, zeus aphro moros, geyser spout charon, zeus ares medea, and apollo shiva

[hollow lily]

Expanding cast and perfect image are Apollos best boons hands down. Everything else is mid

[cunning warren]

One of my favourite interactions was with Athena if you picked the deflect dash boon she would say ah your brother's favourite like I felt so called out😭

[shrewd geyser]

Dude I just did an Apollo shiva run on the special and heph on attack, it was completely nasty

[nova oar]

Yeah but there are better casts for more damage and curses, instead of 3 hits, most of the time regular enemies are dead before all 3 hit or the boss has moved out of the cast

[prisma monolith]

https://thunderstore.io/c/hades-ii/p/BlueRaja/FavorOfTheGods/

[cunning warren]

Also if you pause the game during Cronos fight there's unique voice lines hahaha

[nova oar]

The sprint is one of the best behind nexus rush, the magic regen is really good, daze is a very nice curse, his legendary makes omega builds go crazy, he has prominence flare for cast builds, core boons overall fit well into alot of builds, plus a lot of fun and good duos, I would argue perfect image is among the worst of his boons

[prisma monolith]

This seems really cool

[prisma monolith]

He used to unpause your game

[nova oar]

In EA you used to not be able to pause the fight unless you got an incantion

[hollow lily]

Maaaan can the fckin hades 2 wiki get updated already. I wanna see stats and specs but its soo bare bones

[cunning warren]

THATS WILD

[shrewd geyser]

Isn’t that still true?

[prisma monolith]

That was moved to rivals chronos now

[shrewd geyser]

Ahhh I see, wait so I got that incantation twice smh

[hollow lily]

K thats fair

[prisma monolith]

Cons of early access

[hollow lily]

I remember that. They took it away??

[shrewd geyser]

Apollo is one of the best gods in the game no question

[cunning warren]

Honestly

[craggy totem]

I think they changed it so that the incantation ||allows you to use Phase Shift on Chronos||

[shrewd geyser]

Apollo attack on Anubis staff + hammer that makes the attacks bigger is so goofy

[hollow lily]

Ngl it was a very cool thing and I wish they stuck with it. Supergiant sometimes bows too much to us.

[shrewd geyser]

That was a separate incantation as well

[hollow lily]

Remind me what phase shift does. I unlocked all incantations

[shrewd geyser]

Time slow

[cunning warren]

I do wish they didn't make ares so doodoo tho he's like oozing with sauce and that ares holding Mel's shoulder while she wields the axe is so peak

[nova oar]

I would say he's A tier, zeus and hera are S, Ares is B

[wicked abyss]

The tooltip messaging is a bit unclear… excruciating creation calls the element icons it grants “boons imbued with the element of earth” but “Tall Order” calls them Elements. Makes it seem a bit like Hasty Retreat’s “bonus per boon” might scale by adding elements. I’m guessing it doesn’t though.

[hollow lily]

Oh right he was immune to all time attacks

Yeah nah we should've kept the no pause screen. Glad i was an EA

[cunning warren]

It's still in but with vor no?

[shrewd geyser]

Blitz, lighting ring, hitch all so goated

[nova oar]

It is yeah

[prisma monolith]

Hasty retreat works perk boon, not element

It doesnt even mention elements

[shrewd geyser]

What he said, it is possible to get elements without getting a boon of that elemental type so the distinction is necessary

[hollow lily]

Wait how tf does that work. If ur using vor ur along way into the incantations that you probably already brewed kt

[wicked abyss]

The confusion comes from the tooltip for elements calling them “boons granting elements” with “boons” being the bold text term

[nova oar]

Static shock my beloved

[prisma monolith]

But hasty retreat doesnt mention elements

[nova oar]

Pretty sure you can only unlock it after he unpauses you

[wicked abyss]

I’m just saying it took me 60 hours to figure out that the proper term for the icons was “elements” due to poor tooltips

[prisma monolith]

Can't say I felt the same

[eager void]

when I fill the hearts of a romanceable character, does the game automatically make you romance them or they ask before if you want the romance?

[hollow lily]

Gonna test this with a new save but this is goofy implementation

[nova oar]

Game will ask

[shrewd geyser]

It took you sixty hours to figure out that a rock fire water and tornado emoji were elements?

[prisma monolith]

Elements were very simple to understand from my experience, sorry you struggled

Perhaps the run they were intr9duced you skipped dialogue?

[devout cairn]

even after knowing what Sprouted means I still can't understand the tooltip explaining what it means

[hollow lily]

Wanna smash?

[prisma monolith]

deal damage with olympian effects (blitz scorch etc) it charges the meter, making the ospecial last longer

[jolly hound]

they ask for consent

[shrewd geyser]

Olympians dealing damage means you need a boon that adds flat damage from an Olympian, like scorch or splash or blade falls, wounds etc. it will charge the bar above your death defies, when that bar is charged you will get +2 seconds on your omega special

[eager void]

I want to max the hearts of every character but I don't wanna romance everyone

[hollow lily]

Characters will go up to you like crows And hit you with the lemme smash

[eager void]

I see, thank you

[hollow lily]

K thats fair. To me Icarus is the only true love

[jolly hound]

i think you can be solo poly if you want

[prisma monolith]

i smashed everyone

[nova oar]

Real

[shrewd geyser]

Facts I stay getting down and dirty

[eager void]

solo poly?

[prisma monolith]

solo and poly contradict itself

i replied to the wrong thing, meant the lando msg

[hollow lily]

I want to say a slur

[jolly hound]

google it for more details, but tldr dating a bunch of people and none of them is your clear #1

[prisma monolith]

oh that is an actual thing

[nova oar]

Ofc it is

[prisma monolith]

well im sorry for not knowing

[eager void]

ooooh. btw does the game has a poly situation like the first one? since minus 1 character is related to the others

[jolly hound]

youre fine, it's confusing stuff

[prisma monolith]

no

[nova oar]

Not really poly, but mel smashes 4 people

[prisma monolith]

1 at a time

[nova oar]

The hookup culture is real

[prisma monolith]

and sadly it seems only once 😭

[nova oar]

Noooo I wanted to peg icarus

[craggy totem]

It still counts as poly even if the other people aren't involved with one another!

[hollow lily]

Supergiant wants to appeal to all players hence we get the ambiguous bisexual main character. They cover all bases but to me it feels like by doing that you never get to dive deep into one of them.

[eager void]

no poly dialogues with icarus and one of the others?

[jolly hound]

https://tenor.com/view/it-ain't-that-kinda-movie-it-ain't-that-kind-of-movie-it-isn't-that-kind-of-movie-it-isn't-that-kinda-movie-mark-hamil-gif-17905069380251531915

[prisma monolith]

mel gives me dominant vibe with the males, but sub with the females

[tranquil wren]

so true

[prisma monolith]

they mention you hooking up with others sometimes, but no, you cant smash them together

[nova oar]

Ok well you know what eris and nem are like, in what universe are they gonna be bottoms

[hollow lily]

I saw that. Bottom

[prisma monolith]

nemesis is the aspect of retribution, shes as switch as it gets

[eager void]

I see

[tranquil wren]

lmaooo

[nova oar]

No way she's letting mel on top

[hollow lily]

See I'm a high value male, I don't need no gf. My btch is my uni studies (I'm getting pegged daily)

[prisma monolith]

nemesis pegs you, then she turns around for the peggin

[unkempt wing]

what did i walk into 😭

[jolly hound]

she prob would allow mel to be big spoon tho

[prisma monolith]

then this goes against her whole shmeat

[hollow lily]

Peg session

[prisma monolith]

give and receive is her whole thing

[jolly hound]

yall can have chatgpt make up myths ya know

[nova oar]

As a lesbian those aren't the feelings i'm getting from her

[unkempt wing]

also why can i not unlock the hidden aspect for the blazes? i have t5 aspect of melinoe

[tranquil wren]

has to be non-mel aspect

[jolly hound]

you need to spend 5 nightmares total

[unkempt wing]

OH LOL./

[nova oar]

Nah you need to have a maxxed aspect now

[prisma monolith]

understandable, im not a lesbian, so thats how i understand her

[hollow lily]

I got shmeat to spare

[unkempt wing]

did somebody say lesbian

[jolly hound]

i honestly cant keep track, i just got it for switch but the youtube videos i watch are outdated in places

[prisma monolith]

1,0 just came out

[hollow lily]

I bet Hecate got that hagussy

[prisma monolith]

shaq timeout gif

[unkempt wing]

BUT IS SAND NUKE WRONG.

[devout cairn]

mods ban this guy

[nova oar]

Oh boy you're gonna love the epilogue

[prisma monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-time-to-stop-gif-9416155803997449261

[nova oar]

Unless you don't care about spoilers then there is smth very wrong

[jolly hound]

dont spoil stuff plz im still workin on epilogue

[unkempt wing]

dm me please

[hollow lily]

Can't even game on this ferry dawg. Hate ts

[little mason]

Spoil me please I'm still on the epilogue

[jolly hound]

use the story discussion thread for that

[prisma monolith]

i suggest you stay off the discord, even tho it says spoiler 1.0 stuff, sometimes people just dont

[little mason]

Leave chat if u don't wanna be spoiled

[prisma monolith]

or stay and have timothy who didnt read the channel description spoil everythinf

[craggy totem]

Channel rules say tag all spoilers

[hollow lily]

Imma try to catch some shut eye on this ferry cya all

[little mason]

Only 1.0 spoilers

[prisma monolith]

this implies people read the rules

[shrewd geyser]

Enjoy

[hollow lily]

We love hags. Peace

[nova oar]

I want to spoil it so bad rn oml

[prisma monolith]

and yeah only 1.0 stuff counts as the spoiler rule

[nova oar]

I am fighting for my life over here

[craggy totem]

Is post-epilogue stuff not 1.0

[prisma monolith]

yes

[little mason]

Let's discuss it

[prisma monolith]

i mean, you can just spoiler tag it

[shrewd geyser]

What kind of question is that

[craggy totem]

People are going "but the spoiler rule is only about 1.0" when the person was talking about post-epilogue spoilers

[nova oar]

MASSIVE EPILOGUE SPOILER DO NOT OPEN ||Hecate is Mel from another timeline, it would be so wrong if Mel did anything with her||

[prisma monolith]

just saying in general bruv

[little mason]

1.0 bro

Read the rules

[shrewd geyser]

||I don’t think she is melt from another timeline I thought she had just been prepared in a similar way to kill chronos?||

[craggy totem]

No, ||she definitely is Mel from another timeline, it's very clear and explicit about that. That being said, lol, isn't it just havin a wank in that case||

[prisma monolith]

your thinking is wrong, the above statement is correct

[tranquil wren]

||the eyes are meant to be confirmation||

[nova oar]

Are we about to discuss the semantics of ||self sexing||

[shrewd geyser]

Yes

[tranquil wren]

no!!!

[prisma monolith]

so much for no spoilering

[devout cairn]

I guess people who wanted || Odysseus to be a romanceable option got what they wanted ||

[little mason]

|| Is it self unaliving if she would end her? ||

[prisma monolith]

||hey i know we cant smash since thats kinda wrong, but you can smash other me, that should count||

[nova oar]

Ok but i'm genuinely curious given the nature of Greek myth, would they do it given the opportunity

[craggy totem]

Greek myth is anything goes.

Old mythologies in general are buck-wild.

[prisma monolith]

luckily for us, this isnt cannon greek myth

so we dont have to find out

[little mason]

If ur Loki there is no rules

[austere oxide]

Hi, I messed up. Moros had the exclamation point over him || to give me the waking phrase. || But I gave him ambrosia directly - forgetting that you don't get to talk after an 'outing'. Several nights later, it has not re-appeared. Do you think it will return eventually?

[prisma monolith]

it will

[austere oxide]

Whew! Thanks!

[vapid igloo]

That doesn't make sense she is a Titan

[prisma monolith]

self made

hecate from the game isnt exactly hecate from greek mythology

[swift mason]

I feel like the same 2 weapons always get the boost 😭

[tropic monolith]

okay moonbeam's much better than I realized on controller if you just don't hold a direction

[prisma monolith]

selective memory

[unreal temple]

Does Cronos just spare your life if you get caught in a time bubble while the instakill is going? I've had 2 moments where he just suddenly stopped the attack when I got trapped lol

[prisma monolith]

no, you triggered a phase change

[unreal temple]

No there was no phase change either

[prisma monolith]

well what you described isnt a thing, so your game must be bugged

[nova oar]

What?

[vapid igloo]

time travel shenanigans really does make stuff crap

[prisma monolith]

[nova oar]

Nah i loved the epilogue

[unreal temple]

I'll try to recreate this but I'm certain he just kinda spared me for no reason

[swift mason]

I mean look at mel, would you say there's 0 reasons?

[nova oar]

The only thing that would make that not happen is a phase change

[prisma monolith]

your game is bugged if you didnt trigger a phase change

[vapid igloo]

everything else worked fine so far but that screw stuff up

[unreal temple]

Nothing was screw up as far as I understand

[unreal temple]

Honestly maybe there's some reason for him to do that...

[nova oar]

Yeah we all know what the gods/titans are like

[prisma monolith]

just had an ap2 run, had all hera boons but rousing reception

yes my queen, i suppose ill take your entire stock

[prisma monolith]

that was a joke

[tropic monolith]

that's when it's fun to burn them all into Zeus levels >.>

[swift mason]

Btw does game explain the reason of why chronos and cronus were fused together? Or is it just open interpretation

[prisma monolith]

no, cronus doesnt exist in hadesverse

hes effectively the same as chronos

heracles vs hercules type deal

[dry cipher]

More convenient

[prisma monolith]

technically they are the same entity depending on what youre reading

hence why they share similar names

[dry cipher]

And if Supergiant didn't make these types of desicions the game would be a complete mess

[tropic monolith]

almost every greek god has a bunch merged in

Poseidon is a mess

[prisma monolith]

yeah

[nova oar]

Just like zag and dio are the same person sometimes

[prisma monolith]

^

[swift mason]

Hmm I'm pretty sure in most story's they have very different powers, personalities, motives origin etc...

[dry cipher]

And Tartarus being a god itself

[prisma monolith]

yes, hence why it depends what youre reading

[unreal temple]

I know?

[prisma monolith]

theres no right or wrong answer here

[prisma monolith]

well you seem convinced that he spared you, when thats not a thing, so i was just making sure, my bad

[nova oar]

Several versions of Greek myth exist at the same time, just go with what you like

[dry cipher]

In some myths, Orpheus swore of women and loved only men

[pastel hearth]

Speaking of chronos, who are his children exactly? From what I've heard, some of the gods aren't his children

[prisma monolith]

in this case, hades, zeus and poseidon

not sure if hestia is included

[dry cipher]

The ones that aren't his children are his grandchildren

[pastel hearth]

Kinda funny considering how skinny he is compared to them

[prisma monolith]

the ones that arent his children, are zeus' chidlren

[pastel hearth]

I'm not talking about the younger ones

[prisma monolith]

we just said, zeus, poseidon and hades

[pastel hearth]

I know, i saw it

[hollow marsh]

also hera demeter and hestia right?

[prisma monolith]

demeter is adopted, not sure where hestia comes from here

confirmed, only those 3 afaik

and def not hera

[pastel hearth]

Then they should one of the other titans children, no?

[nova oar]

What?

[prisma monolith]

most likely, yes hyperion, theia, rhea and whatnot

[pastel hearth]

It's rather funny how the devs tried so hard not to make anything incestuous by going as far as making half of the chronos children in the mythology being not related to him in the game

[prisma monolith]

indeed

[dry cipher]

Based of them honestly

[prisma monolith]

although persephone is still technically hades' step niece

[dry cipher]

😨

[prisma monolith]

which makes persephone zag's step cousin

[timid vigil]

hey can the optional boss fight || (zag) || show up on the surface too or just underworld?

[prisma monolith]

but they can only do so much

[prisma monolith]

yes, both paths, mid shops only

[craggy totem]

Both

[pastel hearth]

The more you learn about greek mythology the more you realize why there isn't any accurate adaption

[hollow marsh]

hades is her uncle technically, but in the game shes the daughter of demeter and a mortal?

[timid vigil]

thanks

[tropic monolith]

alternative take: The more you realize every adaptation is accurate

[prisma monolith]

step uncle, yes thats why i said shes his step niece

[hollow marsh]

huh

[pastel hearth]

What?

[nova oar]

Yeah cause theres 7 different versions in 30 different languages translated by multiple different demographics

[hollow latch]

How do I use greater sowing of gardens?

[prisma monolith]

plant

[pastel hearth]

I meant as media

[hollow latch]

I only get the option to play one at a time it seems

[nova oar]

Greek myth becomes so much better when you just accept everything as true and did happen

[dry cipher]

All of which contain crimes against both humanity and nature

[dreamy helm]

If you have multiple seeds of the same type there should be a button prompt

[hollow latch]

What does it do, actually? I mean, does it let me plant in more than one spot with the same seed?

[dreamy helm]

Pretty much yeah

[hollow latch]

but if I had multiple seeds, what is the difference? I could just plant one by one

[prisma monolith]

it lets you plant multiple without having to click one by one per spot

[pastel hearth]

Never ask a man why his wife suddenly became pregnant out of nowhere in greek myth

[hollow latch]

dang this is so much worse than I thought

[prisma monolith]

the point is saving you time

[hollow latch]

Save me 5 seconds?

[dreamy helm]

It's not that relevant, yeah

[pastel hearth]

It's a QoL

[prisma monolith]

idk, i found it as a very cool qol thing, i even had a mod for that exact thing prior to its existance

[hollow latch]

dang, thats sad

[prisma monolith]

cool imo

[pastel hearth]

There are mods?

[dry cipher]

It's satisfying at least

[hollow latch]

anyways, thanks for letting me know

[nova oar]

Plenty

[prisma monolith]

yes

[hollow marsh]

what do hades mods look like i wonder

[prisma monolith]

weve had mods since the first week of early access

[pastel hearth]

I too wonder, especially with the character designs

[nova oar]

Mostly make the game easier/harder

[hollow marsh]

yea im looking at them right now

[nova oar]

I haven't found any good ones to change the cosmetic design of things

[pastel hearth]

[limpid plume]

is there some way to lock yourself out of a rush boon? I just did a run where i never got an option for one, at one point my only option for a zeus boon was a replacement for my cast. i had nitro boost but i can't think of any other reason i would get locked out

[nova oar]

Were you playing denial?

[limpid plume]

ummmmm oh. lol. i thought i did the onion fear

[prisma monolith]

this one just dropped, very cool
https://thunderstore.io/c/hades-ii/p/BlueRaja/FavorOfTheGods/

[hollow marsh]

most of them are quality of life ones to be honest

[limpid plume]

but maybe i did denial because i saw no onions........ thank you!

[hollow marsh]

ohh it looks interesting, but i think i should play it a bit more before i go start adding things, i only beat the game yesterday

[fluid totem]

i did the entire playthrough not using origination card thinking it was more conditional than it actually is

dont be like me

[shrewd geyser]

Does anyone know how many prophecies are on the fated list? I have done ||86|| but I’m not sure if that’s all

[prisma monolith]

Do you have any more still needed done?

[grand grail]

does selene's keepsake count as a summoning boon and remove fates whim?

[shrewd geyser]

No but sometimes they are hidden behind weird prereqs and don’t always show

[prisma monolith]

No, selene isn't an olympian

[limpid stream]

Trying aspect of circe as recommended earlier

[grand grail]

sweet, ty

[shrewd geyser]

And no selene doesn’t remove fates whim it’s very nice

[prisma monolith]

Fates whim says olympian summoning keepsake

[gentle lion]

Does anyone know exactly how to unlock the ||hidden aspect of sister blades||?

[tacit stream]

I finally beat the || two final. Bosses || 🙂

[shrewd geyser]

It does seem weird cause Selene def alters fates whim but yeah it doesn’t deactivate it

[tacit stream]

I did the second one first try!!

[gentle lion]

I have them upgraded to level 5 for aspect of Mel, and I have them equipped and just ran into ||artemis||, but it didn’t give me any indication that I’d have a new incantation.

[nimble inlet]

Up or down

[tacit stream]

Up

[nimble inlet]

Nice

What build

[safe falcon]

All 3 unlocked, any non-Mel at 5. Same for every weapon actually - the specific weapon doesn’t even need to be equipped

[gentle lion]

Do they all need to be leveled up to 5?

[prisma monolith]

just any non mel

[shrewd geyser]

No just one non mel

[nimble inlet]

One

[safe falcon]

Nope! Just a non-Mel (also added more info)

[tacit stream]

I was using the skull and I had a really OP cast || Hephaestus || for the win

[prisma monolith]

medea gang

[nimble inlet]

Carrot

[shrewd geyser]

So you’d need either Artemis or Pan to level 5 on the daggers for the hidden aspect

[prisma monolith]

Lord Randle

[tacit stream]

Im sad i beat the big bads already but I know my journey is only just beginning 🔥🔥 time to do it again and again and again

[shrewd geyser]

And again and again and with extreme measures and on 32 fear

[tacit stream]

😭😭😭😭

[nimble inlet]

And then with rivals again and again and again

[tacit stream]

Bro did anyone else recognize a certain ||boulder hanging out with hades|| I got so happy seeing him

[shrewd geyser]

And with those freakin chaos trials ||20 random fear random weapon random keepsake random pet random arcana||

[prisma monolith]

still sad they didnt let us modify fear on chaos trials, thats whats stopping me using it

[nimble inlet]

And there are lines about him, yay

[tacit stream]

Also the adoring fan shade after you beat ||cerberus|| what a cool callback ❤️❤️

Also I love picking up items mid battle. Every boss has a funny remark to say

Such love into these games man ❤️🔥❤️

[nimble inlet]

Real

[shrewd geyser]

God sent calls against Chronos or god disputes as well

[prisma monolith]

just stay away from #h2-story-discussion

[nimble inlet]

When you put tini tiny details into a game, it makes it one of the best

[shrewd geyser]

This game even comes with Funko pops

[tacit stream]

I hope we get a hades 3 😭❤️

[prisma monolith]

2030

[shrewd geyser]

Yeaaaaah…. Idk about that one

[nimble inlet]

Idk what more they could do, I honestly hope they don’t but they do a different mythology game

[prisma monolith]

isnt like hades didnt have another child, oh wait, he did

[nimble inlet]

Or Greek or even other mythology’s

[nova oar]

I wanna see the original concept for the game, Theseus going through the grey labrinth to kill asterius

[prisma monolith]

FOR REAL

[nimble inlet]

Well there are different sources but every god had many children

[tacit stream]

Are we liking hades 2 more than 1? I’m still on the fence they’re both amazing in their own right

[prisma monolith]

just saying, a third child is there

[prisma monolith]

both are good, but combat in 2 just feels so much better

[nimble inlet]

But imagine being Theseus after witnessing who he is in Hades I

[shrewd geyser]

I think the smaller scale family story in hades 1 was superior, almost everything else I like hades 2 more but it could also be recency bias

[prisma monolith]

hes amazing, wdym

[tacit stream]

True that and every weapon is so fun. Except those damn torches I suck at those haha

[nimble inlet]

He brings comedy but I wouldn’t wanna be him

[prisma monolith]

hes favoured by the gods, i hella wanna be him

[nimble inlet]

I also don’t like them or the coat, but I just need to play with them more

[nimble inlet]

I wanna be Prometheus

[shrewd geyser]

What if it is a more humble him though, who isn’t playing into being the champion of the elysium arena

[prisma monolith]

ew, lowest IQ on the block

[devout cairn]

gods really just do be favouring whoever

[nimble inlet]

I want them to do a game in which you’re Prometheus before his punishment

[tacit stream]

Coat was hella OP to me I defeated grandpa first time I used coat

[nimble inlet]

Then yeah that’ll be cool

[shrewd geyser]

Prometheus on his way to steal fire would be sweet

[limpid stream]

Hecate down, idk if I’m using Circe well but I conceptually like it

[stone maple]

Aspect of Nyx is mouth wateringly tasty and i am happy to have tried it out just now.

[shrewd geyser]

Circe with Toula (cat) is really really good

[nimble inlet]

They didn’t really defend from him tho did they, he basically stole it and then they found out

[tacit stream]

I think I only have one more god to discover 😈

[prisma monolith]

one of the strongest aspects

[limpid stream]

That’s what I’m running lol

[shrewd geyser]

True but I could see a twist on this story where they tried to lie about him sneaking around and stealing it

[tacit stream]

Does it mean anything special when it rains during the run

[prisma monolith]

it changes the flower, but thats it

[tacit stream]

Ahhh gotcha

[nimble inlet]

The punishment wasn’t even really from the theft of the flames was it tho, it was from the prophecy of Zeus or something right? Like I’m not certain I’m right but he said something Zeus didn’t like I think

[tacit stream]

I was driving yesterday and listening to the sirens songs in the car 💀

[shrewd geyser]

I think it was a combination of him disrespecting Zeus, and also stealing the fire giving a massive amount of power to mortal hands

[nimble inlet]

Ig, heph should’ve supported that tho, it’s his subject he was promoting after all

[shrewd geyser]

Facts, not to mention the goddess of the hearth… how does that work if mortals don’t have fire

[nimble inlet]

Like hestia? Idk

[shrewd geyser]

One of the oldest gods, god of something that requires something mortals don’t have lol

[nimble inlet]

Not to mention Zeus do be creating them too with his lightnings

[devout cairn]

fire is a metaphor for uhhhh

[nimble inlet]

The friends we made along the way

[limpid stream]

LMAO I got the room with like 100 squids right after getting Aphrodite’s cast

[little mason]

guys can you stop spoiling the game +

[prisma monolith]

grow up

[shrewd geyser]

Who spoiled the game

[nimble inlet]

There’s literally a no spoiler channel

/for new players

[prisma monolith]

hes memeing

[shrewd geyser]

[nimble inlet]

Ah, well I gotta go to sleep bye

[nimble inlet]

Hehe he ha!

[pine fiber]

Loving this game so much so far, Mel plays so much nicer to me than Zag

[visual condor]

Heya guys, quick question, I beat Eris and used all my death defiances, is it guaranteed to meet Athena on olympus? Should I take her gift? Probably not possible to meet her twice, right?

[nova oar]

You can only meet her once, probably better of using the keepsake

[shrewd geyser]

the only thing I really miss about the first game was the mirror. It feels slightly bad not being able to activate all Arcana, outside of some kinda of Judgement and Circe keepsake build, where the mirror or night had a modifier in one way or the other for all spots

[pine fiber]

I think it strikes a nice balance, I think of not activating every arcana as this games version of the A/B variants to the mirror

[shrewd geyser]

I agree but having to make multiple loadouts just vexes me

[pine fiber]

Only thing I miss personally is the bloodstone, would love to have the ability to use that as an alternative cast lol

[shrewd geyser]

||You kinda can||

[craggy totem]

A more flexible version of that, even

[pine fiber]

||Oh? Pray tell, I'm fine with gameplay spoilers||

[craggy totem]

If you're talking about how bloodstones let you ||projectile your casts, there are some boons that let you projectile your casts||

[shrewd geyser]

||You can get it from Hades as a boon from him, either by meeting him in Tartarus or by using his Keepsake and getting it randomly||

[pine fiber]

||I see I see, I didn't see that as an option yet, and I don't have access to that keepsake yet, only beat Chronos 3 times and I think I need to do the thing for beating him 5 times first||

[shrewd geyser]

I wish post game ||Hades would appear like Hermes or Artemis and give a few boons in the run||

[craggy totem]

(Tangentially, my least favorite boon to randomly get from that guy is the ||limited heal from damage done|| boon. It feels so useless! Is it more welcome in high Fear runs?)

[dull whale]

I tried out ||aspect of artemis|| and ||moros|| and good lord they shred

[shrewd geyser]

I get really mad when the keepsake gives me lthis lol

[craggy totem]

Glad it's not just me 😂

[dull whale]

||artemis|| is my fav blade aspect now
||moros|| straight up feels like the best Flames aspect

[shrewd geyser]

Moros is the best flames, followed by ||Supay|| and Eos

[pine fiber]

My fav aspect so far is just ||Mel for the staffs, love to Crit all day with Raki, a lucky Artemis boon and that||

[dull whale]

I just got ||supray|| but need to purchase it

[prisma monolith]

Not guaranteed, you need her keepsake

[craggy totem]

You might say that it's ||supayr expensive||

[prisma monolith]

😐

[dull whale]

That ||darkness|| cost yeah lol
I have 3 rn so not too bad

[prisma monolith]

Really sad the record keeper doesnt show boon levels

[vale lava]

with arc flash on flames, does that apply with every single special hit that orbits me or just the first instance it damages an enemy? or does it re-proc on each hit?

[prisma monolith]

What

[jagged wave]

Does anyone have any advice on how to get the Minor Prophecy "Improbable Outcomes" to show up? ||I thought you just needed every Keepsake and Weapon unlocked but so far it has not popped. I did a Great Chaos Below run successfully hoping that would trigger the prophecy to show up but it did not happen. Do I need to do the Above one as well?||

[prisma monolith]

What's that again

[lyric zenith]

Most likely every special hit

but you need to reapply blitz

[tacit stream]

Has anyone tried pausing during the big bad

[lyric zenith]

||Until it's datamined, hard to know. There's some speculation that you need to deepen your relationship w/ Chaos for it.||

[meager garden]

which version

[prisma monolith]

Pretty much everyone

[lusty marsh]

Question about achievement -> ||Is Fair fight achievement bugged? I have fought (and won) agaisnt Nemesis way more than 10 times and still haven't got the achievement||

[prisma monolith]

Post 1.0?

[shrewd geyser]

I don't think it counted any wins prior to 1.0

[lusty marsh]

makes sense!!

[jagged wave]

Thanks for replying! My chaos relationship is maxed out. I'll keep running trials and talk to Chaos as much as I can. I'm hoping it pops eventually so I can do it!

[little mason]

Does? It?

[prisma monolith]

I'd say play the regular game and talk to everyone, have you done all other trials?

[shrewd geyser]

you deffo don't need ALL other trials, but doing all of them would prob increase your chances

[prisma monolith]

Yeah I dont actually know so just spitballin

[shrewd geyser]

yeah same

[little mason]

I did all the trials

[nova oar]

I think you need 20

[shrewd geyser]

a lot of stuff I got from just playing as I normally do, but I am a completionist so I do everything

[little mason]

Can you speak Australian?

[shrewd geyser]

I think ye need twentee mate

[little mason]

Can we put some roo on the barby

[austere oxide]

Hi - I got it! (four nights later) Thanks for the reassurance and the reply!

[prisma monolith]

Enjoy

[wispy storm]

double strike procs on blitz right?

[little mason]

Does it?

[tacit stream]

Singing with Artemis is so beautiful

:’)

[jolly hound]

Yep

[nova oar]

Yes

[vale lava]

does perfect image remain after taking damage if I'm running hermes legendary and still have coin?

[thin laurel]

yup
it procs on all vertical lightning strikes — blitz, sprint, cast, divine vengeance, even stuff like the demeter duo and zeus godsent I believe?
it doesn’t work on chain lighting which is horizontal lol

[reef cedar]

For the first time since using this keepsake (prior to Patch 1.0) I haven't gotten a hex in Erebus. Despite the fact the keepsake I'm using belongs to Elune and usually gives me one straight away o.0

[thin laurel]

are you on the “final” underworld run? ik some NPCs are disabled during that run so maybe Selene won’t show up

[reef cedar]

Yeah I am.

IDK if I should keep using this keepsake, because nothing suggestss he won't show up?

[spare tinsel]

is it ever explained why dora has big ole paws?

[nova oar]

Nah

[shrewd geyser]

why not

[thin laurel]

it’s just for this run
if you want to restart and bring a diff keepsake go ahead, but for future runs it’ll work! a LOT of stuff is secretly disabled for that run (like echo can’t appear and is replaced with a shop)

[shrewd geyser]

Why is Tall order so bad

[icy palm]

what should my oath look like for 32 heat? what's easiest? i just did 24 surface

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/faIsqUr

[icy palm]

ty

debt is crazy! wow how do you play w/o gold?

[icy palm]

any tips for rival 2 fight in underworld?

[shrewd geyser]

like am I stupid or is Tall Order terrible

[nova oar]

Lot's of aoe damage/very good dodge usage

[nova oar]

I basically get nothing from wells and 1-2 boons per region

[crude dragon]

It's 50% global damage, innit?

[shrewd geyser]

it shows only 25% on the tool tip

[crude dragon]

Or is it only 25%

[nova oar]

You can take it off and put vor3 on, cerb isn't too bad

[crude dragon]

So it's Ares infusion that's 50%, then?

[broken glen]

Only pick tall order if you think you’ll get it naturally across a run. Look at your god pool, as certain gods only have 1 type of element (Poseidon has water, Ares has earth, etc) which makes it a lot easier to attain.

[shrewd geyser]

Like that feels so bad, you need 8 of every element for 25% damage, that's poop

[crude dragon]

You don't need 8 of every element, you need 8 of any single element

[shrewd geyser]

Or is it 8 of any, and I am brainded and illiterate

[nova oar]

Tall order is goated

[shrewd geyser]

Okay I am braindead and illiterate

[crude dragon]

It's an or condition, it's Proper Upbringing that's 2 of each

[shrewd geyser]

Question about Narcissus ||Does this jerk ever start giving me gifts again?||

[hearty fog]

||Yes.||

[reef cedar]

NGL I'm a bit nervous about this run. I selected full will of Night that makes every boss harder. I rely a lot on hexes to pile on damage.

Which boons are best for healing?

[broken glen]

What are y’all’s thoughts on rallying cry? It’s ok in a vacuum, but I feel like it’s weird that it has the same fulfill condition as tall order (but harder to attain due to only earth) and a similar effect (technically different, but still just damage)

[shrewd geyser]

Apollo infusion isn't bad, certain weapons have hammers that give healing

For straight survival, Ares will give you healing while below 40 HP, so you can maintain health

[shrewd geyser]

My mouth waters when I see it, but I rarely have enough earth to be sure I'll get it

[crude dragon]

||The fact that you're calling him a jerk for not giving you gifts proves his point about why he's doing it :p||

[shrewd geyser]

I'm only calling him that cause he started being one fr... Laurel? come on bro

[crude dragon]

It's his nickname for you

[shrewd geyser]

Not as good as Lerny

[thin laurel]

kind of awkward. not bad but half the time I take it it doesn’t work lol.
I’d love it for stuff like blitz and splash, but I feel like it has the most success when you’re playing multiple earth gods, so like. cut above, fine lines, and heph blast builds are more likely to get 8 earth 🤷

[runic glade]

What weapon is best for ares?

[shrewd geyser]

Ares is more of a secondary god to me

[lyric zenith]

Circe probably

[runic glade]

I just got him so I was not sure what to use him with

[crude dragon]

Nah, Sword Ring is a genuinely bad cast without the blade Duos

[verbal pollen]

Why tf did they remove the ticking before Dark Form runs out??? Another Selene thats unpickable now, cool.

[runic glade]

Oh really? That’s the one weapon I haven’t used cause I am not sure how it works, it’s a weapon that I just focus on my cast?

[shrewd geyser]

Blade fall builds require duos, and wound feelsbadman compared to other primaries you can get

[crude dragon]

Works nicely with medium-speed weapons, and Wounds as a status effect is more of a gateway into Heinous Affront and Grievous Blow than something super powerful on its own

[runic glade]

An ok got it

[crude dragon]

Yeah, it's this game's cast-focused aspect

[shrewd geyser]

One of, Charon on Axe is also cast

[crude dragon]

Charon's an Omega Cast aspect more than straight cast

[shrewd geyser]

Ehhh, idk you use both in one move

[runic glade]

So I just cast and run around and shock people with the link? What other cast boon is good for it?

[runic glade]

Really? What boon works best?

[shrewd geyser]

Geyser Spout is BIS with it

[tough crow]

Not up to it yet, but if a familiar is maxed out, can you still feed them skull treats because they're the best and you love them?

[shrewd geyser]

I wish

[runic glade]

That’s Poseidon yes?

[crude dragon]

Sword Ring is one of the worse casts to toss on it, TBH

Arctic Ring, Smolder Ring, Tidal Ring, and Anvil Ring are all better choices, IMO. Even Storm Ring