h2-discussion

[tropic monolith]

It's still there but it moves to the bottom so it's easy to tell what you've done or not

[pale pier]

Chat, what exactly is it that Hera says when you don't pick her in family dispute and you see her in another run? LMAO

[crude dragon]

Something to the effect of "don't do that again"

[pale pier]

Im trying to tell my friend what she says cos I find it so in character that she's the only one to remember and mention it again at all lmao

[swift flare]

I wanna ask the Arcana Card Huntress. If you're magic is 100% primed, does it mean you cannot activate it at all?

[hearty timber]

Yes you can't

[swift flare]

k

[heavy glen]

ooh, this is interesting

One of the items available in the Well of Charon is the Nail of Talos, which allows the player to deal increased damage to armor. Talos's only weak spot was the nail in his ankle that sealed the vein carrying his ichor blood, which, once removed by Medea, caused the robot to bleed to death; hence why this item allows Melinoë to penetrate enemy armor.

[vapid igloo]

Jetty Romance Route please

[nova oar]

There are two types of people lmao

[swift flare]

whoa HOLD ON! Robot bleed to death??

[heavy glen]

apparently!

[nova oar]

Yeah, gods and robots are powered by ichor

[hasty ocean]

Talos has ichor inside of him, I watched the Ray Harryhausen movie so I know

[swift flare]

oh right, Talos is moving living bronze in greek

[old dawn]

beat the game around 40 hours of gameplay. just finished grinding out the ||icarus|| romance at 75 hours

now to figure out wdf the ||fates|| need me to do with ||moros's keepsake||

[maiden pelican]

I was just coming to ask if ||the Icarus romance|| took absolutely forever or if it was just me -_-

[subtle bluff]

65 hours in and still cant get past his lock on the 9th heart

[old dawn]

yeah, I was stuck on that for AGESSS

[subtle bluff]

also I wanted to ask what happens when you give gifts to someone with a max bond, im still trying to conserve gifts bc i have hardly anyone maxed out so im too scared to experiment

[sly loom]

They give it back

At least every time I've tried they have

[formal wren]

Dear god... Using any weapon other than the torch is so painful on ||typhon|| for me

Especially the axe
By the time i get one hit in, half my health is gone

[crude dragon]

?

[sly loom]

Typhon kinda easy for me now, once you figure out the trick it's pretty straightforward

[formal wren]

The AOE for that ball attack is too big i can't dodge out in time

[crude dragon]

Genuinely unsure how you can't even get a hit in on Typhon with the axe. Would understand if it's the slam that's the problem, but in general?

[sly loom]

Gotta stand right up in his face and it basically just misses you

[formal wren]

Ahh, okay, that makes sense

[crude dragon]

Generally, the eye mortar hits towards the center of the room before it splits, so be on top of him

In general, the safest place in the Typhon fight is right up under him

[formal wren]

It's an euphemism(?)

[sly loom]

90% of typhons attacks miss you if you're in his face, only the tornadoes, chin slam, and vine whips consistently will hit that area

[formal wren]

More about how slow it is when im used to more fast paced weapons

[sly loom]

And those are fairly easy to see coming and dodge compared to the other stuff

[formal wren]

I'll try, thanks cank

[subtle bluff]

absolute mood

[sly loom]

typhon kind of sucks for twin blades if you get the backstab hammer

But twin blades are strong enough without that extra damage it doesn't really matter

[crude dragon]

Eh
Eh
Ehhhhhh

Not really, IMO

But yeah, real shame they never bothered to let Typhon's flanks count as backstabs for knife runs

[tropic monolith]

...I'm basically the opposite lol

[tropic monolith]

attack -> charge omega -> dash whatever the next attack is into omega

Or omega special from a safe range

[formal wren]

And then sit in the corner while it regens

[tropic monolith]

...if you're using axe and know you'll need specials you should make sure to have a good energy skill

apollo's is amazing and lets you alternate in omega casts to cycle the night arcana for crits, poseidon's works to give you good uptime, zeus isn't awful if you need to disengage anyway (Though I like it less than I did initially), similar for demeter just pause a moment

[sly loom]

I don't like omega attack on axe unless I get the hammer which lets me do other stuff during the duration

I much prefer to play Charon generally and focus on Omega special + cast

[elfin heron]

On aspect of Charon it says +30% damage and attack size. Why does it and Than's both say 70 when I hit Skelly?

[nova oar]

The cast gains the bonus, not the attack

[elfin heron]

Ahh.

[nova oar]

Than gains attack speed and crit chance, so they have the same base damage

[elfin heron]

Yeah I knew what Than's did I just don't usually omega special and saw no difference.

[sly loom]

Ngl nergals axe feels atrocious to play

Genuinely don't see what you're supposed to do with it

[tropic monolith]

special until you trigger berserk

[nova oar]

Omega attack

[buoyant matrix]

omega attacks

[tropic monolith]

but it's like the hammer that removes the axe attack chain and replaces it with just the final hit, it's overall a bad idea. No idea who thinks it's great.

[elfin heron]

I just omega swing and get health lol

[nova oar]

You cant play it like normal axe, if you say it's bad you're not playing it properly

[sly loom]

The omega attack just feels like a worse version of regular axes

[elfin heron]

Any word on the next update timeframe? I'm replaying 1 to 2 and I'm getting done faster than I thought I would.

[sly loom]

Is there even going to be another update?

[buoyant matrix]

game is done, won't be any more content updates

[elfin heron]

I thought some people were reporting game breaking stuff so I thought there was at least gonna be one more. Stuff like ||timed cauldron recipes locking you out of certain story progression||.

[tropic monolith]

the omegas both build up for berserk at which point you can hammer things much better with it

[plucky night]

i just got to ||typhon||. WHAT IS THIS AND HOW DO I BEAT HIM IM SO SCARED

-# sorry really random

[novel turtle]

is hera or aphrodite easier to dodge

[tropic monolith]

aphro imo

[sly loom]

I dont remember Hera but aphro is easy

[tropic monolith]

I did hera only once and got murdered so now I don't do her, I don't even remember what she does

[novel turtle]

That's where my brain was at since the first game lmao

[sly loom]

Heph is guaranteed damage, frankly undodgeable

Zeus is pretty rough but not as bad

[tropic monolith]

I do wish there'd be one more small balance tweak now that everything is shaking out with all the players, but we haven't heard anything

[elfin heron]

I'm replaying 1 and aspect of Hestia only hits the first shot, not if you miss. In Hades 2, Heph hits on first contact, even if you miss. Is this intentional?

[nova oar]

What?

[tropic monolith]

Hestia wasn't in 1...

[nova oar]

Hestia rail

[tropic monolith]

oh wait the gun, sorry lol

that was probably an aspect I liked too I just forget all the names now

[elfin heron]

Like, if Heph hits shielded enemies it doesn't get used to recharge until it actually damages the enemy. It's not like that in 1 with that so I been wondering if that was intentional.

[glad briar]

Hey, what's the best place to provide "I noticed a thing wasn't quite right" now that we're out of early access?

[tropic monolith]

press F10 in game

[nova oar]

I don't get it, you're saying just cause you made the mistake of hitting a warded enemy with heph blast it shouldn't count

[sly loom]

I don't think that's what they're saying

[glad briar]

Hm, my report-a-bug hot key from EA does nothing now, but I'll try changing it back to f10 and give it another go. Thanks!

[nova oar]

I'm not sure what they're saying

[prisma monolith]

Neither am i

[sly loom]

They're saying heph blast doesn't get consumed on shielded enemies with grit in 2 but hestia rail does in 1

[magic scarab]

i cant unlick rivals 4, ive beaten both rivals 3 and done the final bosses 3 times each, still no spell?

[sly loom]

I do not know if this is true or even remember what hestia rail even does

[nova oar]

Wiki is outdated, you need to beat the ending

[prisma monolith]

Did you get the true ending

[elfin heron]

400-500 just seems like a lot to also be a guaranteed hit. I like it, just don't know if that's what the devs intended.

[magic scarab]

i got the ending

idk about the true ending tho

[nova oar]

Idk what you're tryna say here dawg, heph works as intended

[sly loom]

If it didn't work like that heph would be completely garbage dead boon

[tropic monolith]

3 kills each isn't the true ending yet

[prisma monolith]

Sounds to me very intended

[magic scarab]

what do i need to do left @ binart

[sly loom]

400 isn't even that much tbh heph kinda overratedn

[elfin heron]

What run you on?

[nova oar]

He's really good with poms, and the duos are insane, but he's not great at base level, really nice supporting boons tho

[tropic monolith]

||Kill Chronos until Zag can't hear you, kill Typhon until you actually kill him (Need an incantation), go after Chronos again||

[sly loom]

He works real good with jewelled pom at high rarity for sure

But so do most things

[tropic monolith]

he scales better than some things

The higher heph's rank, the larger a % increase each upgrade gives. That's reverse of how most function.

[wet otter]

how do ||godsent|| hexes work? Im trying to get ||godsent selene hex but i dont know how to get it consistently in a run, how should I go about it?||

[nova oar]

You can get the hex and then the corresponding god before the first path of stars

[tropic monolith]

||If you have the god associated with the hex, when upgrading it you'll have an option to select the godsent upgrade in the middle line. It's really confusingly worded.||

[magic scarab]

||done this and used the spell to kill chronos and have credits roll||

[sly loom]

Sure he probably scales better than ares and Demeter I guess but unless you get the giga duo boons

[tropic monolith]

...that should be enough then, though that's more than ||3 kills each||

[sly loom]

I think he's worse than most others

[tropic monolith]

I'm pretty sure I've picked up the god after the first path of stars and the godsent just glued itself in there for me at next upgrade

[magic scarab]

i know but the rules for alll the others have been kill the lower rival in then the new one unrivaled 3 times prior

[sly loom]

Definitely better than Poseidon on slow hitting weapons too

[elfin heron]

Just keep talking to people and advancing the remaining dialogue. My end of game stuff was popping up randomly, sometimes 10 runs at a time.

[nova oar]

I'd definitely take him over ares most of the time for the armour boons, just a matter of opinion tbh

[nova oar]

It was like that in ea but it's not in 1.0

[elfin heron]

I already beat everything but after I'm done with 1 I wanna ||hear Apollo sing again...||

[nova oar]

Oh fr? Didn't know it could do that

[tropic monolith]

I got something like a 4k damage crit out of heph attack once with the duo increasing damage vs frozen and a couple other damage boosts

[nova oar]

Yeah heph goes crazy when done right

[tropic monolith]

I think so, I guess it's easy enough to test with Selene

[prisma monolith]

rules have changed sine 1.0

[elfin heron]

3 sec recharge. ||Typhon? What Typhon?||

[prisma monolith]

yup, was changed

[magic scarab]

regarless i did a freash save since 1.0 and have done all i needed to do that is being said

[prisma monolith]

idk

[nova oar]

Did they move it to epilogue?

[prisma monolith]

i didnt do fresh save

[tropic monolith]

I have rivals 4 before epilogue

I thought I had it before true ending

[magic scarab]

thats what im thinking

[nova oar]

Idk what the requirments are i had it from ea

[prisma monolith]

same

[elfin heron]

Some people are reporting that it unlocked for them after having a level 5 aspect in each weapon. Don't know if that's valid or not, but that's all I could find on it as a possibility.

[nova oar]

Could be you need everything else 🤷‍♀️

[prisma monolith]

patch notes said "true ending" whateer that means

[dire estuary]

im pretty sure rivals 4 unlocks after the main ending, not necessarily the epilogue

[heavy glen]

scylla's songs won't leave my head, help

[prisma monolith]

thats the point

[heavy glen]

😭

[dire estuary]

sorry dude youre cursed for life

[heavy glen]

i cant go around in public singing to myself about clawing eyes out and drowninf people to death

[elfin heron]

Began the game to destroy Chronos, stayed for Scylla's band.

[tropic monolith]

I can and I do

[dire estuary]

you could if you werent a coward

[prisma monolith]

why not

[hazy parrot]

i do this on the reg

[elfin heron]

Rock and a Hard Place is a banger

[tropic monolith]

my greatest regret about the game is that the juke box in it has no lyrics

how many kudos do I need to pay to upgrade for singers, I'll farm them right now

[hazy parrot]

claw out your eyes will aways be my fav. rock and a hard place slaps too

[magic scarab]

holy moly the grind 🙁

[tropic monolith]

if anyone asks why you're going around singing about clawing out people's eyes and drowning them to death, just gesture at everything

(or tell them it's just a video game song, and they'll look at you funny and move on)

[prisma monolith]

if anyone asks tell them to mind their business

[elfin heron]

Or tell them || Damned if you do or you don't. Now I've got you in my tentacles!!!||

Or they might find that weirder idk.

Omg they got ||Charybdis|| on the Spotify songs.

[prisma monolith]

well ofc

[tropic monolith]

Sigh

Why did you have to go and remind me of Scylla now the songs are back playing in my head

[vapid igloo]

Once you beat the main game could you guys make it so the other gods can show up at Dioneys party. or at least Kronus

[thin laurel]

personally I have to fight not to karaoke it when I'm chilling in the crossroads
had to look up the lyrics to the credits song because I wanted to learn ||apollo's|| harmony lol

[heavy glen]

thatd be adorable

[thin laurel]

I was abt to say ||I'd love to see Zagreus there, and while that's true ig Mel would need to un-curse him so he can visit the surface first||

alternately, it would be extremely funny to me if Dio visited the underworld at random and set up shop in the Narcissus room, purely because of how funny it is to imagine them interacting and Narcissus dealing with that situation

[heavy glen]

omg

narcissus cracks me up, he's so uncaring
i think if his curse was removed he'd still be the same person

[tropic monolith]

I love Narcissus

[thin laurel]

him trying to be caring is so funny tho, like he DOES try esp late in his storyline, I honestly love how he's written

||like. once he accepts that Mel wants to be his friend he genuinely tries to be his idea of a good friend, it's just like.... "I feel sad for you that you only get to see me sometimes :( that must be hard" I love him lmao||

[nova oar]

He's such a girlboss i love it

[elfin heron]

Are those relationships rng or something because I stg it took me 45 runs to finish his, way past the epilogue.

[rigid fulcrum]

It just takes a while.

[novel turtle]

Only a hestia special boon(epic lvl 3) to my name, think i should attempt ||zag||

[rigid fulcrum]

Which weapon?

[elfin heron]

If you aren't prone to getting hit with what you're running.

[novel turtle]

lim and oros aspect of melinoe

[rigid fulcrum]

Eh, that can apply scorch fast enough to zag.

[novel turtle]

[rigid fulcrum]

Should be fine. If you don't have an agressive amount of Time limits.

[novel turtle]

nah just aspect of rivals and less grasp

[rigid fulcrum]

Also heck Lim and Oros. Stop being the grave thirst target. I'm tired of you.

[novel turtle]

gang it didn't work

[nova oar]

Me when the scam

[buoyant matrix]

zag be kinda hard

[worn steppe]

does skulls special dash have invuln frames like normal dash does?

[golden solar]

Only Omega special, which gives you immunity bubble

[limpid stream]

Oh no I’m having fun with other weapons help

[jaunty night]

Other than what?

[heavy glen]

good!

[limpid stream]

Staff aspect of Mel

Next you’ll tell me I have to learn how to use omega moves

I only just decided to integrate casts into my playstyle like earlier today and I’ve killed cronos

[thin laurel]

I mean if you want a one way ticket to “learning to enjoy omega moves” then just play torches tbh. Not channeling is actively hard on that weapon imo

[buoyant matrix]

mel staff and circe staff don't use omegas, circe maybe uses a little

there's plenty of aspects in the game that don't really use omegas

[limpid stream]

Isn’t omega just a charged move? Or do you mean they just don’t tend to benefit

[thin laurel]

what else have you started enjoying? if you like staff then momus could also be a fun intro to omegas…

[nova oar]

Mel staff loves the omega special

[buoyant matrix]

they don't tend to benefit

[buoyant matrix]

ok maybe it does in anywhere but high fear, i tend to just prime myself out 🤔

[thin laurel]

every weapon CAN use omega moves but some don’t rly care abt them (and some rely on them heavily)

[buoyant matrix]

momus is a good starting point for learning to integrate omegas yeah

[nova oar]

Yeah not good for high fear but ospecial builds are really fun

[thin laurel]

like. charon and momus without omega moves are just…. not an aspect, they’re just aspect of mel but without the level up bonuses. but mel staff and circe you can ignore omegas and still enjoy what makes them good

[limpid stream]

I did the ||chaos trial|| for the axe and torches lmao

Though I’ve been making an effort to take new gods so I’m not running the same build every single night. I even found a way to enjoy Aphrodite lmao and I couldn’t stand her in H1

[thin laurel]

oooh fun… I love chaos trials, amazing addition to the game, great for trying new weapons without committing to a full run

and I have a heavy bias towards torch and staff lol so glad you tried torches

[buoyant matrix]

bro I've 150 hours in this game spent meticulously honing my skills and my most viewed h2 vid is a charybdis tech i didn't even come up with myself

[limpid stream]

Yeah I did enjoy trying the new weapons even though I just wanted the ||S-seed or whatever it’s called ||

Apparently Aphrodite’s cast is like really good with my normal build (Hep on primary, Zeus on secondary, Poseidon or Demeter on dash)

[cobalt raptor]

i feel like my builds are all the same, are aphoridite and apollos attack and special boons stronger than all the others?

[nova oar]

S seed?

[limpid stream]

I like Apollo but only as a support god imo, though I’ve heard others like him as a primary

The thing used to make ||pet treats||

[nova oar]

Stardust?

[limpid stream]

Yes

[nova oar]

Wait, I don't remember what the recipe is

[thin laurel]

depends on the weapon!
% damage boosts like the ones from apollo and aphrodite are nice on weapons that hit hard and slow, but for fast hitting stuff like daggers poseidon and hestia tend to be a lot better. + apollo and aphrodite don’t inflict a status curse
the gods are pretty balanced overall

[thin laurel]

also wait speaking of pet treats! are you the one who was talking abt rly liking toula recently? or am I misremembering

[cobalt raptor]

the burning from hestia feels ways too slow to be useful

[thin laurel]

hestia goes crazy if you invest in her. pyro technique or freezer burn helps. but use poseidon if you don’t like scorch ig

[limpid stream]

Yes I was lmao glad my reputation procedes me

[cobalt raptor]

thank you

[thin laurel]

and re: Toula
if your favorite weapon is Mel staff, you like Toula, and you just started enjoying casts… 👀 I think you’d really like Circe staff. Toula is rather good with it, it makes it so that every time you use your cast she uses one too!
or any familiar, but Toula attacks enemies so it’s a nice combo

[buoyant matrix]

have you ever heard of burning island

[cobalt raptor]

what's that?

[thin laurel]

you can play Circe prob exactly how you’re playing Mel staff, just with double casts + more focus on your familiars! so idk, when you can give it a try

[limpid stream]

I think I need one more marble to unlock it I was just checking on it lmao thanks

[thin laurel]

lmk how it goes! it’s a very fun weapon imo

[limpid stream]

Will do!

[nova oar]

I wish to learn of these developments too

I need to get better at circe as well it never really clicked with me

[limpid stream]

Well I’m almost always talking about my runs in real time so you all will def hear about it

Yes that means I’m doing a run rn

[nova oar]

Good, cause i'm normally asleep when noone else is

[dry cipher]

Afternoon

[nova oar]

Evenin

[meager walrus]

is it not just the regular staff but you get a good damage cast and then just spam casts on cooldown for the dps + thether?

thats normally how I see people playing it I think

[nova oar]

I tend to play it too much like Mel staff and not build enough into cast

[meager walrus]

i dont think you need to build fully into cast, just the double cast damage from any reasonable cast + tether damage is enough

[thin laurel]

tbh I like it partly just because it gets online so quickly
even without a good cast boon the tether helps with early erebus rooms surprisingly much 🤷

I also think it's fun to lean into froth lol, with layered casts + the tether for more chances to proc it. no idea how optimal that is I just think it's fun

plus it's one of the two weapons I've had the best luck setting pb speedrun times with so. I've gotten fond of it

[meager walrus]

red has a ton of clips of them playing the weapon and it looks very similar to mel staff

just instead of the giga special you get free cast damage and tether damage

[limpid stream]

I used a DD at Hecate do I reset

[limpid oar]

No, dds are a resource!

[nova oar]

Nah just get another one from echo

[limpid oar]

It's ok to use them 🙂

[limpid stream]

Fair, let’s just hope I can save this build lmao

[meager walrus]

if you take any damage at all its time to reset the run

[nova oar]

Certified 62f moment

[thin laurel]

also the NPCs in the next two regions have a chance to help you refill DDs (echo ofc but also narcissus), + also you can buy refills if you're lucky! it happens, not a huge deal imo

[elfin heron]

You can get one from chaos (legendary, albeit rare. You can get it without even having lost one), you can buy one for 200 at wells of Charon and sometimes they show up at the end shop. Echo can also just refill all lost DDs.

[rough horizon]

Is it the door trick?

[limpid stream]

The Hermes pool had one but I don’t have 200 gold I feel so disrespected rn

[nova oar]

Are they not 360 gold?

[meager walrus]

debt 2 player spotted

[nova oar]

oops

[thin laurel]

also hm, a run or two before sleep, but do I have high fear or speed attempts in me rn....... or just fun runs...

eh I'll try high fear. idt tonight is a speed night, I need a break from that

[limpid stream]

Narcissus pulled through GOAT

[hearty timber]

I've started doing jeweled pom, time piece, athena, hermes and have found great success in high fear

[wispy storm]

Anyone have any footage of what the ||long arm of night|| cosmetic thing looks like?

[thin laurel]

ooh hermes last. what weapon? I've been taking pin mostly

[hearty timber]

Sorry, pin or hermes based on how confident I am at that point

Weapon is mel staff, circe staff or persephone

[thin laurel]

hmmmm. circe, take common storm ring and lose static shock, or take rare static shock and settle for another cast.... I like storm ring ig I should just grab it. but static shock for wards hmhm

[hearty timber]

It's at the fates whim but I like smolder ring and static shock

Smoulder ring only needs pyrotechnique to be really good

[thin laurel]

empty build other than epic zeus special at this point, which was nice luck, no rerolls ofc. leaning towards static shock tbqh, other casts work
edit: you sold me, static shock it is. plus I'm tired of storm ring, I took it a ton for speedrun attempts on circe (no idea if that's the move, I should rly research this stuff lol)

[hearty timber]

Yeah lol, one disadvantage of no rolls is that some runs can end early

Also do u prefer dd or strength? I typically go strength

[thin laurel]

hello zeus a third time in erebus??? ok I guess

[thin laurel]

strength for speeds and fear I'm comfortable with
absolutely DDs for 50+ which is what I'm trying rn

[hearty timber]

Strength is so gooood ngl, I'm comfortable with just having athena dd (if she decides to offer)

Toula is also good

[thin laurel]

if athena offers her single DD I do like that! but with toula/pin I feel like losing the buffs from strength until it pops isn't super worth it, idk
I've also heard ppl stack both for high fear ||with jpom||, which I may try 🤷

I'm playing sloppily so maybe this isn't a high fear night, but wow I like this build a lot, amazing luck for ||jpom||
zeus special + static shock + electric overload without deleting double strike from the pool, gigaros dash start, wicked thrasher...

[buoyant matrix]

yes

[limpid stream]

Going to ||Tartarus|| but my build is crap lmao

[thin laurel]

same tbh, altho it started out well.... just didn't rly get enough boons

[heavy glen]

XD https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1o5dyor/i_was_not_expecting_this_at_all/

[thin laurel]

yeahhhh idt this is going to go well vs chronos but. wish me luck. just didn't get enough boons ;-;
damage felt low vs rivals cerb so no way is gramps going to go well

[heavy glen]

good luck

[teal zephyr]

Are you running strength or losing all dd by biome 3?

[limpid stream]

He is kil

[hearty timber]

I'm not running dds at all, only strength

[thin laurel]

yeahhhh no, got to p3 but no dds and like 10% health. blitz special and static shock is simply not enough damage, why did this run refuse to offer me an attack boon

[buoyant matrix]

what fear are you running

[thin laurel]

and!!! congrats, did you get any marble 👀

[buoyant matrix]

what aspect and fear? those two are quite a lot of damage with good arcana

[thin laurel]

circe 55

[limpid stream]

I did 👀

[buoyant matrix]

ehhh idk seems good enough

did you time out or get hit

[hearty timber]

I've been up to 52 fear, everything except pain hordes and void

[thin laurel]

got hit, but went into p3 one hit away from death with no lovers so like. eh, not surprised
I'm not good enough at r4 yet to squeeze out a win without a bit more of a build lol, I beat 50 fear p recently so. need to improve a lot more, working on it

[buoyant matrix]

rivals4 55 fear? what's your oath setup 🤔

[thin laurel]

only missing void, and some grit pain and scars
but also I want to get better at r4 even if I could get away with not running it and still clear 55

I'd like to get good enough for 62 so putting it off isn't going to help me in the long run. non-rivals chronos wouldn't have been an issue tho

[buoyant matrix]

then you had enough damage, it was just lack of practice with UR chronos

[hearty timber]

I think learning scars and frenzy is super important

[thin laurel]

frenzy is fine, I've had frenzy on since like 24 🤷 scars ik I need to get used to, I just want more time to practice UR chronos each time I get there

[hearty timber]

Maybe they can add a practice mode lol

[teal zephyr]

Just save scum the fight, that's what I do to train

[buoyant matrix]

technically you can just savestate

[hearty timber]

True

[thin laurel]

I mean to be clear I didn't have enough damage *for my skill level lol
ik it's a me issue not unfair rng, just miffed, a better player could have swept for sure

[teal zephyr]

Ain't no way I would be able to train and get good at any of these bosses just by doing runs over and over

There should have been a practice mode, the chaos orb is right there

[buoyant matrix]

only boss i ever did some savestating on was UR chronos and it was just like 30 minutes

[teal zephyr]

I fought him for like an hour over and over to train

I'd say I'm ok rn I'm on a winstreak on him

[thin laurel]

hm. I should look into it.
when I started hades 2 I didn't expect to go beyond like 32 fear so this is p new to me lol
can I grab a savestate from someone ? or get a run to that point then go into the files or something

[buoyant matrix]

you can grab it from someone or make one yourself it's pretty easy

[ripe kindle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1247749859612688458/1427216763208339476/SPOILER_image.png?ex=68ee0eb0&is=68ecbd30&hm=9da2f23ac4a67e86b29b1ac5c4f96cfbfe7e26cbd7d875ff7235b8c67670dc1d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1186&height=770

i can't believe she's making fun of my labubu collection 🥀

[wet rivet]

Can someone lmk why i cant send images

[limpid stream]

Got Circe staff

[buoyant matrix]

i still haven't completed it, is there an ||odysseyus figure||?

[teal zephyr]

Yeah I did the latter

[wet rivet]

I just wanna share my arcana setup man XD apparently i'm not allowed to

Do i need to be a member for a certain period of time?

[prisma monolith]

No pics

Not here

[wet rivet]

Cant share pics in builds channel too

[thin laurel]

upload to a free image hosting site like imgur or a private discord server then paste a link here

[prisma monolith]

In there you an share the link

In here the pic wont show. Just the link to it

[wet rivet]

Alright i see, thank you friends

[buoyant matrix]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck

make it, press generate link then copy it and share it here

[heavy glen]

i saw a hilarious reddit post a while back from someone whose cat kept trying to kill the final boss

[wet rivet]

Thank you!

Did the cat prevail?

[heavy glen]

"My cat jumped up on my desk and began pawing at the screen! She was trying to help me kill Chronos. I appreciate the enthusiasm, but it was making it hard to see parts of the screen. So I paused and put the controller down. But before I could lure my cat away, the game unpaused!

So I finished the fight with an extra hazard lol. I tried to keep to the top of the screen where it was harder for her to reach. She nearly knocked my monitor off my desk, but somehow I pulled through and won the fight!"

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/n2jiea/my_cat_is_attacking_zagreus_please_patch_her_name/ this also happened

[thin laurel]

@buoyant matrix hey any advice on region 3 keepsake at high fear? my next attempt is off to a very good start and that's the slot I'm least sure of

[prisma monolith]

High fear in this case being?

[buoyant matrix]

I've started trying antler 😂

[thin laurel]

lmao ok but also I'm still learning and that's scary

[buoyant matrix]

could always take pin and keep it till the end of the run

[thin laurel]

and 54, currently trying everything but grit pain and void

[prisma monolith]

Yeha pin a good pick

[buoyant matrix]

maybe even hit the legendary pin + gift gift gift 😌

[thin laurel]

and ok 👍 that's what I did last run, good to know
may try antler at some point but not rn idt

[buoyant matrix]

yeah I'm only taking antler because timer is tough at 62, if you're not taking grit then you don't need it

[thin laurel]

I like hammer at lower fear lol but idt it's super likely to give me something worth the slot

[buoyant matrix]

if you want hammer you should be taking it at oceanus

[thin laurel]

yeah, I decided getting used to scars was more important rn than trying to split my vows

[thin laurel]

would you ever over ||chrolex||? I just like it for fun runs tbh but I haven't rly touched it past like 40f

[buoyant matrix]

i have yet to take the chrolex in a high fear run 🗿 i still prefer the other utility

(but also i haven't played a lot since finishing the epilogue)

[thin laurel]

ooooh... interesting. tbh I partly take it cause "ooh shiny new mechanic" but the gold feels nice w debt for sure, and making onions do something is neat

[buoyant matrix]

my last 62 took hammer in oceanus but that's because it was an arty run and i wanted to gamba for trick knives

and it DID give me trick knives 👌 🤑 🔥 💯

[thin laurel]

hmmmhmhm. core boon slots full, hera or apollo miniboss boon in fields... trying to think if either of them have anything relevant for chronos
super nova and hera infusion are deleted, other than that mainly core boons got denial'd

[buoyant matrix]

hera for bridal glow 🤑

[thin laurel]

ooh good point actually

I was like. rousing isn't going to matter, I have static shock again for wards, so perfect image...? but yeah I'm always down to bridal glow gamble 👍

[buoyant matrix]

or hered bane if you have hitch

[thin laurel]

I do! so hera it is

got both offered 👀 but bridal glow is more fun, lots of good hits

OOH it hit storm ring on circe, hell yeah ok ty for recommending hera, also don't mind me liveblogging this run just enjoying it

[buoyant matrix]

flat damage soup 🔥

you better get origination up

[thin laurel]

it was in erebus, I had crazy erebus luck and got more boons by the time I left than I had entering tartarus last attempt 💀

[covert badge]

does circe double magick gain when using lucid

[prisma monolith]

The what?

[thin laurel]

1. idk
2. help, psychic leash keeps trying to damage cerberus in the post-fight dialogue where he looks normal 😭 kept making immune noises and making him flash white, leave the boy alone

[heavy glen]

tell your cat to chill

[prisma monolith]

Thats just what happens when you dmg npcs, wdym help

[prisma monolith]

What circe double magik?

[thin laurel]

it's just funny seeing it happen when the rest of the screen is black and I can't see what's doing it

ik why it's happening it was just confusing lol and funny to look at

[covert badge]

cuz circe staff does double cast thing, so i wonder if this gimmick works with lucid or not

[thin laurel]

prob easy enough to test if you grab rerolls and apollo keepsake 🤷

[covert badge]

ah sure thing

[dire drum]

Hello, I need help with understanding unlocking ||hidden aspects||, I seem to have all the requirements fullfilled, yet I'm still not getting any. What am I missing?

[woeful oriole]

does hammer last till chronos if you take it in oceanus? I thought you had to take it in fields

[urban rock]

||You have to interact with specific characters||

[thin laurel]

the requirements also changed between last patch and 1.0, so depending on where you're looking the info may be out of date

[dense yacht]

You've got all other aspects unlocked and a non-Melinoe Aspect maxed and you're talking to ||characters who have their own aspect of the weapon||?
If so, you might simply be falling victim to the ol' dialogue queue.

[prisma monolith]

Probably if you dont take side rooms

[covert badge]

yeah it works

[dusk dove]

How long did it takr you guys to get all achievements?

[thin laurel]

DID IT AHHH
got crazu boon luck but ALSO I think my awful first run warmed me up, I lost so many DDs in that run to bosses that I went nearly hitless on in this attempt

so full of adrenaline lmao, ty @buoyant matrix for the advice

[dire drum]

Yes, I basically have each weapon with at least one aspect maxed (some of them mel's), but on 3 of the weapons (||thanatos axe, artemis daggers and forgot the 3rd||) I have non-mel maxed and i'm running ||artemis daggers|| and talking to ||artemis on the surface|| and she ain't giving me anything

[dusk dove]

(Epilogue related) Also any idea how to find || the fates||

[dense yacht]

FYI you don't need to bring the weapon with you to get the waking phrase.

[dire drum]

yeah, I know, I'm just doing it anyways and still no results

[craggy widget]

still working on it, but I got 39/50 with 150h from EA, about 30 more hours in I have 43/50

[craggy widget]

||read the fated list, it gives some not very subtle hints on how to do it||

[dusk dove]

||Oh they updated the text? Thank you||

[jagged mirage]

yall how do you wake up a ||specific sleepy guy I did the incantation already but it didn't work ||please without much spoilers

[prisma monolith]

Keep playing and talking to medea

[heavy glen]

there'll be incantations to do it again, one can only be done postgame

[edgy mulch]

Anything I like about Nemesis is immediately forgotten cuz encountering her early in Erebus means that she just steals all your kills if you can't super ultra one tap every enemy

[heavy glen]

don't let her steal your door too!

[edgy mulch]

That as well

Like she's hot and beautiful and I want her to crush me but if she steals another kill and another door I genuinely might just find a way to turn her into a boss fight so I can show her what a damage check looks like

[heavy glen]

or curse her with the twilight curse hex

[edgy mulch]

At least Thanatos gave you time before insta killing enemies and didn't steal doors

She just walks up to you and kills enemy when it's literally 2 hits away from you finishing it off and then takes the boon door that would help your build

[heavy glen]

'it's not fair' 'yes it is'

[edgy mulch]

Heracles at least has the thing where specific enemies are marked, so you can have him focus on unmarked enemies so you can kill the marked ones

[marsh spear]

I miss Elementary Particles
Such a cool name

[thin laurel]

than also didn't take anything from you if you lost lol, iirc, he just said something passive aggressive (or loving depending on when in the plot you were) and then left

[vernal quarry]

She’s such a kill thief lmfao

[edgy mulch]

Nemesis when she runs into Mourning Fields Mel and not Erebus Mel (she isn't fast enough to steal her kills anymore)

[thin laurel]

I love wards and armor for Nem tho, you get to do the same to her
let her remove the barrier/armor and then steal the kill <3

[teal zephyr]

At this point I'm just annoyed when there is a Nemesis or Heracles encounter

Complete waste of time

Though Icarus is the worst by far

[thin laurel]

seeing nemesis in tartarus when trying to beat my pb for speed is so nice tho :') I don't like that there's more rng on top of fig, but god it's nice to see her in room 4

[iron rapids]

Some of his boons are good though why are you complaining

[teal zephyr]

Oh yeah in that context I can definitely see her being a blessing

[wispy storm]

I really wish they added a notification similar for when you're using less grasp than your maximum for leaving the crossroads without a familiar equipped

[teal zephyr]

Makes encounters longer and harder

[wispy storm]

This is like the third time I've beaten Hec/Poly and realized too late to just reset

[iron rapids]

Yeah but free money

[heavy glen]

i like how there's a hidden pun with heracles

melinoe takes her share of the gold while he presumably takes the lion's share

[jaunty basin]

if you compare how much money you get from him to how much each encounter gives you, does not seem to be the case. plus hes standing at shops for like a solid minute counting his coins before buying anything though he might just be dumb as rocks rather than poor

[iron rapids]

Him being dumb makes more sense

Also everyone would HATE to enter charons shop and just find some items missing cuz heracles already bought them out

[jaunty basin]

nemesis does the same thing though

[iron rapids]

She's calculating wether she can still afford rent if she buys something from charon

[jaunty basin]

well considering she pays you 300 for a common boon you give up I doubt its poverty on her end, shes calculating how to be as annoying as possible towards you

[mystic rune]

Man, it's like 6 am and this server is already hopping, I feel bad I was soo late to the version one launch cause i went though my emails, I actually had this game since the OG day one of may 6th 2024, and I played a few different versions of it, and i was really waiting for day 1, but i kinda forgot about it
edit :the imgur actually had my name in it but anyway yea true stories lol

[jaunty basin]

or how to get back at you for the times you dash to the door shes running to

[heavy glen]

how are you finding it so far?

[mystic rune]

I'm not even that far in, I was on night 30 on my old profile which was beating the game, so i started a fresh file, im night 17 now, just unlocked black coat yesterday, MUCH cooler weapon than the adamant rail, yes, eris's gun used to be the last weapon in the game, and from what I remember.... this is much better. Honestly, I had 48 hours in the game back in ( early acess) so it felt like i full game back then, I'm 68 hours in now, so i only put another 20 in now ( maybe some afk time), except the game is much much much larger

so really loving it

[swift mason]

how do I gain image perm

[mystic rune]

there is no image perm, you can around it via imagur and reddit, links

[thin laurel]

you don't, you upload it somewhere else and link it
(imgur, another server, up to you)
or just dm someone

[split shuttle]

guys im trying to do a 40 fear underworld fun run in which you guys get to pick my weapon, aspect, familiar, keepsakes, rooms, and boons to take (except fear, arcana and ||jeweled pom|| start to make it fair), i need like three people or more so is anyone down to make me suffer

[swift mason]

Gotcha thanks!

Check out this crazy run I had, that ares boon was insane, almost 100% to make basic attacks deal 200% damage
https://imgur.com/q9FufAz

[thin laurel]

oh, for this specifically you can post images in #h2-victory-boasting lol! the one channel with image permission, but only for... well, exactly that sort of image
but also great run 👀

[swift mason]

Ah okey thanks, sorry new to the server, or at least it's my 1st time typing here

[thin laurel]

no worries! there are a lot of channels lol and it's not always intuitive that only some allow images

[thin laurel]

and I'm down as you know but only for like half an hour or less, need to sleep soon, but if you get other ppl before then @ me abt it

[mystic rune]

LOL i just woke up it's 6: 30 am where I'm at, im on my 2nd coffee, chilling on discord, and phone, about to play some hades after to a wake up a bit more. 😛

[thin laurel]

hopefully soon I won't be able to have the sleep schedule I do rn, but until then I get to enjoy ppl from wildly different time zones chatting here lol. past midnight for me

[swift mason]

First time hearing ||Apollo sing, what an amazing voice...||

[split shuttle]

buddy thats a 1.0 spoiler so spoiler it

[tribal yew]

How do I get Selene to like me?

The description of her quest says to prove yourself with a certain weapon. I'm assuming it means Selene aspect, but what am I supposed to do with it?

[mystic rune]

oh that screen you linked was ur 1st run top of Olympus? well GJ 😄

[swift mason]

Yep, I just wish it was a bit longer, the build was super fun

[mystic rune]

well i saw ur build u had a lot a lot of Heroic boons ^^

i rarely have more than 1 per run

[thin laurel]

steady growth did that probably 👀 epic steady growth it looks like?
(aka the demeter boon that upgrades the rarity of a random boon every X encounters, every 4 at epic rarity iirc)

[jaunty basin]

heroic steady growth upgrading every 3 encounters is hilarious

[mystic rune]

yea i gotta use demeter more often, i usally focus on poseidon and aphrodite but i have me demeter keepsake maxed out too

[thin laurel]

freeze is also just a great effect, super safe. arctic ring is my default cast if I'm not focusing on cast damage
some of her boons are just okay, but freeze is great, snow queen is great imo, steady growth is fun af...

idk, I like every god in hades 2 tbh, lots of great build options

[mystic rune]

i can't figure out how to use ||Ares|| yet but to be honest I kind of avoid him and don't even try

[thin laurel]

he's.... probably the overall worst god rn so understandable
still not bad tho! he fits well as a support god for any build, as a primary focus he's fun but not amazing imo

if you get a wound effect + grievous blow (or zeus dup + light smite from apollo) he's really nice, and I'm never mad to see him, but I also rarely go looking for him unless I'm playing one specific aspect

tbh tho heinous affront (zeus duo) is one of the most fun boons in the game to me lol, so whenever I have apollo and zeus in my build already I get VERY excited to see ares

[swift mason]

I began with demeter keepsake so I could find the rank up boon and rank that up to epic

[mystic rune]

good to know it's not just me, cause i tried him a couple times, and like for a late game unlock I was like wtf, why is he so bad? or am i just missing something? and I've been meaning to get the full boon list from the cauldron and reading through it, gonna do that today

[swift mason]

I dont think he's bad he just doesn't have an actual focus like the other gods, some focus on freeze, some focus on splash etc... his boons feel like most don't go well together, but at least the ones I got on the capture I sent at #h2-victory-boasting were amazing

[dense venture]

Man Rivals Surface 3 doesn't even makes sense if you've gotten the ending lol

[thin laurel]

oh I don't think he's bad at all, every god is really good tbqh
I think the boons you had were actually some of his best, esp the double damage ones! he's "the worst" in a group where very option is actively great lol

[dense venture]

What you're so pressed for, Mel

[swift mason]

Qh yeah gotcha. I agree then

[mystic rune]

I just started doing my ||CT's || even though i don't know what the rewards are exactly yet beyond reagents

[fervent silo]

What is "born to win" prophecy?

[jaunty basin]

what does the text say

[fervent silo]

I don't have the prophecy unlocked

[buoyant matrix]

take the embryo keepsake to chaos a few times and you'll get it

[fervent silo]

Okay I see, thanks. What do i need to do with it btw? Is it zag wins?

[buoyant matrix]

it's fun and pretty easy to do, you'll see when you get it 😉

[fervent silo]

I have a feeling its not fun and easy to do

[buoyant matrix]

nah trust me

[fervent silo]

Is it winning a run while always keeping the embryo

[buoyant matrix]

yeah 😂

[fervent silo]

Ah, then it is. Thanks

[buoyant matrix]

reference to the egg quest in h1

[fervent silo]

I got 4 achievements before 100%-ing

Got the epilogue but still not the arachne thingy, amazing

[nova oar]

did 55f cerb hitless

[thin laurel]

1. congrats and 2. has it clicked with you now

[nova oar]

It has it has

[buoyant matrix]

if you don't take any extra rooms (which happens a lot in high fear) then yeah it will last exactly until chronos

[buoyant matrix]

yw lol i just checked my pings

[thin laurel]

focusing all my willpower on not being tempted to do 55 or 56 if shiva beats me again, I need to sleeeeppppp... tomorrow maybe

when we both beat 62 I will be at peace lmao since idt either of us wants to deal with void, so it'll be an eternal tie

ig I'll know in the next 5 minutes

[hardy stone]

It looks like Driftwood is now sellable to the Broker, and without the “still has other uses” marker. It sounds like an obvious question, but does that mean I’ve finished all recipes with Driftwood?

[buoyant matrix]

correct

[hardy stone]

Neat! Thanks!

[wind heron]

the spinning olympus bots are definitely my least favorite in the entire game

p: "you need to evade 3 waves of flame"
m: "waves of flame"
p: "flame!"

[rapid vortex]

Can you help me? I can't seem to progress in the, 'Melinoe, Seek Us' prophecy. I've done everything except, 'Seek to Know He Who Is Our Emissary'. I've done more than 30-35 prophecies, I've got ||Moros|| up to 10 hearts, but I can't go any further. The message I'm getting is, '||Moros|| may be interested in ambrosia after further conversation and prophecies fulfilled', but which prophecies?

[tropic monolith]

should be any prophecies, just get more done

[lyric quartz]

Honestly the craziest part about Apollo's voice is he's voiced by Alphinaud from the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV now with a fre

[unkempt scroll]

Turns out tight deadline isn't required this time around

[crude laurel]

hi, what do you need for ``acceptance of another fate´´ i read defeat both boss 7 times + 16 fear on both places, did it but i dont have it even i already have done that

[misty star]

How hard is Hades 2 compared to Hades 1

[warm dust]

are there really only 2 decorations for your familiars? scratching post and birdhouse?

[tranquil wren]

I think you also need 7 zodiac sand and 5 void lens. I've also seen that you may need to get the sword of night prophecy fulfilled

[unkempt scroll]

Hell full of blood and ash (speaking from my experience)

[teal zephyr]

Finish the epilogue

[unkempt scroll]

Then again my experience comes from Early Access

[tranquil wren]

I'm fairly sure I got it before the epilogue

[teal zephyr]

Did you play before 1.0?

[tranquil wren]

my save was pre 1.0 but I unlocked it in 1.0. idk if that makes a difference

[teal zephyr]

Dunno about that then but I got the incantation as soon as I finished the epilogue, so I don't see what else could have triggered it

[tranquil wren]

oh fair

for me it only unlocked when I got the 7th zodiac sand

[teal zephyr]

Maybe it's different with save files from EA, who knows

[twin rivet]

Bruh why the hell isn't Athena showing up when I equip her keepsake?????? This is the 2nd run in a row where she just doesn't spawn

I even refused DD from Nem hoping for renewed faith 😭

[tranquil wren]

I'm only saying because this has happened before, but make sure you have no DDs, even the one from Toula

[jaunty basin]

there is a chance she doesnt

[twin rivet]

The hell
Since when

[tranquil wren]

I'm fairly sure it says so on the keepsake itself

[twin rivet]

She has literally never not spanwed for me since her keepsake came out

[tranquil wren]

condolences for your recent unluckiness

[twin rivet]

I should just turn off Rivals sirens so I can actually complete the story

[jaunty basin]

forever

what ive noticed personally is she tends to appear if during an encounter I start getting shoved in a locker

while if I dont take any damage she just doesnt show up, which does make sense

[cobalt raptor]

i decided to lose a DD on purpose and she just never showed up for the rest of the run

[twin rivet]

Why is this a thing though

[cobalt raptor]

is taking damage on purpose the right play?

[tranquil wren]

that's just a scripted event where the enemies keep spawning. that's how you know she'll appear

[twin rivet]

I always did it when I was on one DD and knew a hard region was coming up, so I could equip Athena keepsake

[tranquil wren]

yea but that's not how it works. it's just a scripted event where waves keep spawning so that athena can appear and oneshot them

[ripe ivy]

When is the soundtrack dropping on apple Music?

[cobalt raptor]

is she rare?

[tranquil wren]

no

[tidal cliff]

With keepsake it’s near confirmed

[smoky rover]

is charybdis female?

[dense yacht]

yes

[jaunty basin]

yes

[neon isle]

her pronouns are they/them

[pale pier]

Dawg, Poseidon is lowkey the hardest god to ||forge a bond with. Having to catch every fish is insane, I swear I've caught all of them at this point except just 1 or 2 ||

[silent matrix]

first hitless run kinda awesome.....

[heavy glen]

Congrats!

[silent matrix]

put typhon into 2nd phase with 2 attacks 💔

[tropic monolith]

and here I'd been half convinced typhon didn't show a health bar to allow some damage rate limiting without making it obvious

[silent matrix]

you cant end him in 2 hits because he has the summoning stage so its more like 4 hits

but he does have a healthbar....

[tropic monolith]

sure, sure; everything has shields at phases

[tropic monolith]

visible to players without mods?

[silent matrix]

the shield in question

[lyric quartz]

Lol, he was like, one of the first I did it with.

[silent matrix]

prolly not

[pale pier]

He and Hermes are the only ones im missing

[tropic monolith]

that's what I meant; him not having a visible health bar means that he could have a limit to how fast he could take damage and nobody would know

[lyric quartz]

Hermes is the big one I'm missing because no matter how much gold I spend he won't open his heart to me.

[silent matrix]

well hitting him with 20k seemed to do the trick lol

[tropic monolith]

full rng is just awful for things like that

there's someone gated from rivals 2 because they've just never encountered ||charybdis|| after 100 hours

[silent matrix]

unlucky....

[lyric quartz]

It's also a thematic element.

[tropic monolith]

it's only a thematic element, since it doesn't seem to be used for a dps cap or anything

[silent matrix]

what's the unknown crafting part in dissolution

[lyric quartz]

Oh it's definitely not used for a DPS cap because I've had runs where he goes from being zapped by Zeus to immediately spewing out eggs when he wakes up from all the damage.

[lyric quartz]

||Hades' spear, Gigaros.||

[tropic monolith]

that's different since it's pretty clearly a burn phase meant to let you skip clean over it if you do enough damage to the vulnerable eye stalk 😛

[silent matrix]

oh god do i need to forge a bond with him, thats like 30 runs....

[tropic monolith]

||5ish chronos kills||

[lyric quartz]

No.

[lyric quartz]

I just hate the Typhon fight tbqh

[safe falcon]

Typhon is really vulnerable to casts

[slim pike]

typhon is vulnerable to everything

[silent matrix]

His horn slam attack is so annoying

[lyric quartz]

Circe melts him down like a mother hubbard but I always get caught up in trying to just DPS him down over surviving.

[slim pike]

you just need to stop being greedy and not take easily avoided damage

[slim pike]

Dash away from him, don't just try to iframe it, then it's a free dodge

[lyric quartz]

Just dash down lol

[round token]

blood spree 👀

[silent matrix]

it always hits on 40% speed

[slim pike]

heals you up to 40, typhon can hit for 70

[silent matrix]

hermes dash saves me every run i swear....

[lyric quartz]

... There's a literal tell right before he does it

[silent matrix]

im blind

[lyric quartz]

Pay attention to the red spark right before he slams his chin down.

[silent matrix]

also i cant see much when i have 600 rockets flying on my screen

[thin matrix]

does anyone know if odysseus has any special dialogue after you ||kill typhon for good after the incantation? I accidentally finished his quest and he left the crossroads before I killed typhon||

[slim pike]

he's not gone for good

[lyric quartz]

He does, and he has a particularly funny reaction if you ||buy the Trojan Horse display from Dora||

[thin matrix]

I'm wondering about in-the-moment, since all the npcs had something to say

[silent matrix]

i bet he would

[devout cairn]

dont react just anticipate it, he never does the slam twice in a row, he always does slam > some other attack > slam

[lyric quartz]

He basically went ||"Come on, really?"||

[jaunty basin]

Man I love getting complete coal for the entire region and then having to chose between hermes boon, big zeus boon or a chaos door

[silent matrix]

whenever he stops moving i just dash backwards but sometimes he just blitzes me

[devout cairn]

so you just attack a bit and move out before he starts it

[safe falcon]

Wait. ||Odysseus leaves the crossroads for good||?? That’s not a thing! Illegal!

[silent matrix]

he comes back righttt..?

[round token]

GOD BLESS ECHO
ares legendary without having any of the requirements 🙏

[thin matrix]

No, he just ||left while i finished the typhon killing. he'd be back but i was wondering if i missed any dialogue||

[round token]

build damage resist :)

[silent matrix]

dye the silk and loaad it

[slim pike]

Don't need damage resistance if you don't get hit

[silent matrix]

this is truth

[round token]

you can get hit if you build black coat blood spree with legendary ares boon with dmg resist

[slim pike]

still better to not be hit, dashing is quicker than hitstun

[silent matrix]

or you could build black coat to 4 shot typhon

[tropic monolith]

Let me just push my "roll the perfect boons every run" button

[silent matrix]

yes....

white antler is so good

[timid radish]

is it possible to add functionality when you're looking at the boons menu to see the current selections so u dont have to go back and forth?

[tropic monolith]

wouldn't that be nice

[devout cairn]

if we were older

[lyric quartz]

Echo is confusing me because ||I've finished her prophecy for a while but she doesn't want more nectar after dozens of runs||

[round token]

it would be nice if looking at my boons would pause time

[silent matrix]

we would be old...

[slim pike]

Are you gifting her after talking to her?

the gift prompt only appears afterwards, unusually

[twin rivet]

Bruh what the hell is this ending 😭 😭
||Chronos just becomes a nice Grandfather????||

[slim pike]

Do it during menus

[devout cairn]

it's peak

[tropic monolith]

peak ||Zagreus||

...and if it's unexpected, go replay 1. He's a big softie.

[twin rivet]

I mean I kinda forgot 90% of the dialogue in that game

[crude dragon]

Come to #h2-story-discussion, the people there need their daily fix

[fallow vapor]

this may be unpopular opinion but the medea aspect is actually garbage...

[crude dragon]

Is this bait or are you just bad with it?

[fallow vapor]

probably bad with it cuz i had no problem with other weapons and aspects

[crude dragon]

How are you playing it? You don't pull more than 2 pins at a time

[fallow vapor]

well mostly

1 pin then dash

[crude dragon]

By dash you mean special, right?

[fallow vapor]

yes of course i know how it works

[twin rivet]

It's definitely not garbage, it just requires a lot of skill

[fallow vapor]

any good builds i should know? i lost 3 runs back to back

[devout cairn]

just a matter of getting used to it, it is the speedrunning weapon + it was used for the first 67F cleared run

[crude dragon]

It doesn't take that much skill, but it's got a learning curve

[silent matrix]

67....

[twin rivet]

Just put Blitz on specials, anything on attack works

[tropic monolith]

I thought it was blitz on attack anything on special

[hazy glacier]

Is it just me or are the harder variations of olympus bosses easier than the underworld bosses?

[crude dragon]

Zeus Special, Aphro attack is the go-to

Ares attack is also a consideration for Heinous Affront and Grievous Blow

[devout cairn]

not just you, they are

[hazy glacier]

aight

[twin rivet]

Rivals Prom 💀

[fallow vapor]

unrivaled infernal beast is harder than typhon

[hazy glacier]

ye i was wondering how cerb was so hard it took all my defiances at first try but still beat it

[crude dragon]

Champions-of-Elysium-ass fight

[silent matrix]

ermm im 1 floor away

[twin rivet]

What kind of awful opinions am I reading in chat today

[crude dragon]

I assume he means base Typhon

[fallow vapor]

oops spoilers i forgot

[lyric quartz]

Was going by what the Book of Shadows said.

[silent matrix]

spoilers goated

[twin rivet]

Okay, that's fair

[slim pike]

ah okay

[lyric quartz]

It does bug me a bit that ||Zag uses the EM4 Hades Phase 3 theme||

||That's the Maximum Over-Dad theme, not yours boyo.||

[devout cairn]

zaddy

[crude dragon]

It makes some sense, but ||bro needs to bring some intensity if he's gonna whip out phase 3 Dad's theme||

[lyric quartz]

That theme always did crack me up because in H1 it was like ||"DO YOU EVER WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR GRANDFATHER, BOY? ALLOW ME TO SHOW YOU."||

[fallow vapor]

is this a final update or theres going to be more?

[twin rivet]

Lmao Chronos looks kinda zesty after true ending

[devout cairn]

if it follows their usual formula yes

[silent matrix]

cosmetic and lootbox update soon

[crude dragon]

1.0 was the final update (outside of some numbers tuning) for the first game, so I'd expect it to be the same here

[digital coral]

Rivals Scylla is giving me trouble. Any advice for this fight?

[fallow vapor]

kill drummer first

[crude dragon]

Clear Roxy and the two tentacles closest to her first

[silent matrix]

i hate her

[hearty bridge]

i hate that fight of all 8 rivals bosses

[silent matrix]

how do i pet cerberus

[crude dragon]

Roll credits

[silent matrix]

awh

[granite wigeon]

hehe i beat zag

[hazy glacier]

thats easy

[granite wigeon]

what an idiot

[fallow vapor]

and he never shows up again...

[granite wigeon]

im not sure what i got from that

[hazy glacier]

u get a boon i think that gives u free items before bosses

[lyric quartz]

Somebody called him Chrolex.

[granite wigeon]

oh nice

[late zenith]

radicalized

[fallow vapor]

we get to play as hades and chronos

but not zag

[pale pier]

Bro, I wish the Hades save system worked better. I lost a whole run of progress because my electricity went off for a minute and when I logged back in, it was as if I hadn’t started the run at all 💔

[neon isle]

the kicker is it works but doesnt save if you crash to prevent savescumming

[granite wigeon]

lol chaos has a heroicboon, for the next 4 encounters arcana has no effect, afterward gain 23 mana each second, i would pick that if i wasnt about to do the boss next room

[neon isle]

it saves at the start of every room and just resets your progress if you altf4

[pale pier]

And I get that but it’s annoying asf if you crash 💔

Like the pain of going from Tartarus to suddenly being in the crossroads is insane

[neon isle]

yea i think its stupid

like its a singleplayer game, it doesnt matter outside of encouraging people to play legit

[silent matrix]

"Into the abbyss of subconcious i descend" harghhh mimimimi

[fallow vapor]

WAKE UP

[granite wigeon]

lol i died to hekate

[silent matrix]

was it the enchanced one at least...

[granite wigeon]

||zag ||fight ate too much hp lol

[pale pier]

Fighting ||zag|| in the crossroads is a pain because at the beginning you have basically a horrible build.

Also spoiler that 💀

[silent matrix]

spoiler z||a||g

[twin rivet]

Nice ragebait

[split shuttle]

its ez if u have enough experience

prom with max frenzy tho? whole different story

[neon isle]

i like prom a lot tbh

his moveset matches mel's speed, almost everyone else you can dance around

[granite wigeon]

the rivals tiktok boy fight isnt too bad, i usually just focus prom, club man doesnt really catch up if you ignore him

[neon isle]

rivals prom makes him easier but you have to understand the ai

[silent matrix]

club boy is potential man

[neon isle]

they switch between support and attack every 4 moves or so

[split shuttle]

i think they signal that via one of them saying a line

[neon isle]

sometimes i think

[split shuttle]

like "flame thief" or smth

[neon isle]

but the support guy is usually a sitting duck

[raw yew]

prom rival hard part is remembering to dodge the flame walls while mr olimpia does the laser beyblade shooting imo

[neon isle]

yeah the waves are annoying bc he does them offscreen

[pale pier]

Eris was the most annoying boss for me at the beginning but her rival fight is so much easier ????

[split shuttle]

yeah but unless ur close to prom the waves are very slow

[split shuttle]

unless ur playing max frenzy

[neon isle]

eris is easy unless youre running scorch

[split shuttle]

i mean scorch with pyro technique tho

[silent matrix]

scorch so good until you have to use it

[raw yew]

both are easy, with normal eris just stand behind a column and spam her, rivals it's even easier if you remember to explode the fireballs

[jolly junco]

Hi, I just joined. I've done almost everything in the game but some relationship paths seem to be bugged. Charon and Hermes. I have spent thousands of gold with Hermes and it's still telling me to use his alters. IDK what to do about Charon either. Anyone else have this problem?

[neon isle]

fireballs are a lil annoying on axe but its fine

[split shuttle]

just use omega special

[granite wigeon]

lol im gon do zigzagooner with only heras strike and that aries mana one

[raw yew]

my issue is that i can't finish 2nd phase rival olympus, i always lose too much health dunno why

[weary shore]

Eris is easy for 90% of the fight and then very scary when she’s fully powered up and both pillars are gone

[granite wigeon]

eris rivals frankly easier than the normal fight

[split shuttle]

arty blades tbh cheese eris final phase in both versions of the fight

[jolly junco]

I just run behind her

[granite wigeon]

they got rid of that straight shot move from the last phase of the normal one

[split shuttle]

honestly the smg move she does at the very end is ez to dodge

[neon isle]

her laser juke attack does throw me sometimes but its not lethal

[raw yew]

when she snipes she destroys pillars, spin around her when she does it so she can't destroy em, it's her only move that breaks em

[weary shore]

I know, I’ve beaten her a thousand times at 32 fear, just saying, she is scary at the end

[neon isle]

rivals eris also doesnt get the 1 tap damage

[granite wigeon]

lol im about to die to this idiot again

[raw yew]

absolutely right tho hahah

[jolly junco]

Anyone here have problems with Hermes and Charon relationships being bugged?

Spend thousands with hermes and still not progressing

[neon isle]

no, sorry, i saw your message but idk what might be wrong

[granite wigeon]

lol bruh hes so annoying

[jolly junco]

I played mostly before 1.0 so it might have been the update

[pale pier]

After over 200 hours in the game. My most rage quit moment was when they buffed the vampire and I was stuck with him with the slow ahhh axe, no cast, and the hex that rises enemies to fight for you (when he could take their hp). I literally rage quitted 💔

[jolly junco]

I really don't want to have to start a new file just to get some end game dialogue

[raw yew]

same dude

[split shuttle]

the phantom?

[jolly junco]

Has a dev spoken on this?

[split shuttle]

theyll probs patch it in the next hotfix or so

i havent experienced that glitch tho

[neon isle]

i got charons bond almost right aftrr 1.0 and i played ea, idk whats wrong

[jolly junco]

Well do they even know it's a problem?

[raw yew]

i rocked the axe for 40 hours and (i feel like it's a bit nerfed too) then they buffed the vamp and i was stuck running due to being too slow in atk speed

[split shuttle]

yeah probably, they probably check the chats often to see if there is any glitches or not

[jolly junco]

Wait, I have Charon's bond too. I don't remember getting it though

[warm dust]

hey, what's the last shaderot cauldron recipe? i feel like i've done basically everything i can think of except the arachne storyline

[jolly junco]

So just hermes seems bugged. Maybe the gold counter reset when 1.0 was released. I'll just do more top side runs

[hazy glacier]

na just kill the beastman first and then go for prom. Basicly the same way i did with asterius and theseus

[jolly junco]

Also does anyone know what to do to progress Heracles? Been encountering him with 10 fear for a while and nothing moves forward. Is his Rival fight a part of it?

[raw yew]

you tried both under and olympus? i remember it unlocked hermes for me on the stairs before tifon and charon in underworld. Dunno if can happen switching places

[split shuttle]

yep

his bond advances once he tells mel that she didnt snitch on him i think

[light pawn]

Yes, the rival fight is part of the progression

[still dagger]

in the recycling service at the broker, some items have a cauldron icon and some don't. are the ones without no longer needed for any incantations?

[split shuttle]

yeah

[dull talon]

Ugh, I can easily breeze through Rival Typhon, but Rival Chronos is so difficult

[still dagger]

is Sureshot Flurry a good boon on morrigan? it's the one that makes omega special shots all in a straight line

[prisma monolith]

death to chronos

[granite wigeon]

since you arent really going to be using the omega special for damage i would think not

[dull talon]

I basically never use omega special on the knives (unless it's Pan)

[crude dragon]

Eh, you don't use your Ospecial on Morrigan without one of the exclusive hammers

[prisma monolith]

morrigan is a special breed

but yes, normally you wanna oattack

[crude dragon]

Usually you use Oattack for Blood Triad

[dull talon]

My Morrigan playstyle is omega attack -> attack -> special

[prisma monolith]

ospecial is really good for marking multiple people with the omega part

[dull talon]

Fair, but it's just soooooo slow

[granite wigeon]

if you click and hold you can get an attack and omega attack down in one input

[dire drum]

for the ||hidden aspects|| requirements. when people say have all aspects unlocked they mean actually "level "them up once (to be level 1), right? like spend resources one on each aspect, not just have them be available in the list of aspects?

[prisma monolith]

unlock them

[crude dragon]

Well, the alt aspects start at rank 1

[prisma monolith]

if you can use them, they are unlocked, if you cant they arent

[dire drum]

yeah, im stupid, the whole time I thought "unlocked" meant they show up in the list of available aspects (in the middle, rather than on each weapon)

i think i've done like 30 runs trying to get ||waking phases||, lmao

yep, literally got a ||waking phrase|| now, im so stupid, lmao (after i ACTUALLY unlocked all aspects)

[heavy glen]

can athena show up anywhere on the surface with the gorgon amulet or is it only on the mountain

[crude dragon]

She can show up anywhere

[heavy glen]

Cool!

i wish she would

[jaunty basin]

discordant bell levelling run and I forgot to bring a pet

[wheat needle]

I remember once getting to fields and realizing I never selected a pet 😭🙏

[jaunty basin]

its a whole thing

its also an ||anubis|| aspect run with scarab etchings hammer upgrade, so toula wouldve fit perfectly

[heavy glen]

i;ve met athena like 6 times but only 2 times i had a nectar on me and once i talked to her without gifting it by accident

[wind heron]

it kind of feels like shiva stole selene's "nuke omega" feel to me

[unreal hare]

Today I will get a sub 8 run

If I won't, I will die trying

[jaunty basin]

do speedrunners just play 0 fear and shoot for time?

oh this is just the most cursed run yet

archaic seal danaid dagger (200% attack and special damage when not booned), no pet, and discordant bell from start to end

[last ridge]

Finding the last fish (Squid on Thessaly) is freaking hard...

[buoyant swallow]

they run frenzy

[unreal hare]

Nah we use frenzy and shadow

[heavy glen]

i didn't know those were rare, but i assume i have still more to find

[jaunty basin]

fair

[heavy glen]

good luck fishing!

[unreal hare]

Frenzy makes enemies spawn faster and shadow makes 1 erebus mini boss super fast

[jaunty basin]

which one?

[unreal hare]

The shadow spinner i think

[jaunty basin]

ah

[unreal hare]

Makes you able to just kill the big guy without running for the little ones

[last ridge]

Each biome has 3 fishes I think, it make 27 in total for the Denizens of Rivers achievement (also Poseidon too I think), and I have 26, except the freaking Squid...

[pale pier]

Bro, I am at the point in the game where I have 100+ nectar and it’s useless 💔 All ambrosia now

[last ridge]

And it's even harder when there is like 2 location it can spawn a fishing point on Thessaly I think, because you can't have fishing point on a ship (3 if I'm lucky and found Circe), and the one I didn't have is the rarest one...

[unreal hare]

Flex on dionysus lol

[pale pier]

HHAHAHHAHA

I wish this was an option in game

[prisma monolith]

wait howd you forget, why you took them off

[jaunty basin]

to give food

[unreal hare]

I wish you could give one to bouldly again

[pale pier]

Real, it’s me and my familiars against the world 💔

The only thing that I sometimes forget is to switch them when I need a specific one

[jaunty basin]

oh perfect this run definitely needed beach ball

no attack boon no special boon no pet, danaid dagger, anubis aspect and beach ball

please give me glorious disaster too this run really needs it I swear

[last ridge]

Honestly, I only use Frinos so I can purified the Shades faster, or Toula right now because I want more chance of fishing point for my last fish...

[tropic monolith]

I searched around so hard for a place that would give me that option

[unreal hare]

Sammeee

[craggy totem]

Raki crits and Gale zoomies are nice though

[jaunty basin]

this is on 16 fear with rivals 4 btw

[prisma monolith]

whats a zoomie

[unreal hare]

The game is so much faster when you unlock greatest gift of gaia

[prisma monolith]

me who still picks stuff by hand

[pastel lava]

do you get i frames during the wolf howl hex? the hex that makes you rise up and crash down at a location?

[jaunty basin]

yes

[prisma monolith]

all hexes give you iframes

[unreal hare]

I hate using gale because I always waste her on smth that will deal 2 damage to me 😭

[pastel lava]

oke ty

[prisma monolith]

once you activate the increased dmg fear, every block is worth

[unreal hare]

100%

Thats why I only use her on 30+ fear

But i mostly run speedrun fear

[prisma monolith]

ah valid, i hate speedrunning

[unreal hare]

Fair

[craggy totem]

Zoomies: when animals run around very energetically
Zoomies also: me making Melinoe run around very energetically using Gale's increased movespeed, dodge chance, and blocks

[unreal hare]

I remember doing a casual run and I realized I was at 9 mins when I got to chronos and I got so mad I took the long route in the underworld

[tribal yew]

Guys how do i get Selene to like me?

[unreal hare]

Iirc you max out her aspect

[prisma monolith]

gale gives mov speed and dodge chance?

[last ridge]

Is there any requirement to unlock having Artemis show up on surface? I saw it on wiki but like I still haven't seen her up here (even though I finished the main story already)

Also, it's so hard to find Nemesis (fair trade) and Heracles...

[unreal hare]

And beat a run with it

[prisma monolith]

get the heart/mana rooms in ephyra

[craggy totem]

Yep, it's great.

[unreal hare]

Artemis can only show up in non boon rooms

[tribal yew]

Oh I didn't know it had to be maxed

[last ridge]

oh ok, it make sense then. Has been running with exlusively boon room...

[prisma monolith]

and only in ephyra, aka in the mana and heart rooms

[craggy totem]

Gale + Mel coat + maybe slap some Hermes boons on there for kicks and giggles = sliding around on a ballroom floor in socks

[prisma monolith]

you can do this easily with just apollo sprint

[last ridge]

what about Heracles, is there any tell of which room he appear more?

I meet him probably like 5 times...

[craggy totem]

That's like saying "you can snack easily with just one chip"

[prisma monolith]

nope, rng

[prisma monolith]

pretty sure mov speed has a cap

[craggy totem]

What's the cap?

[prisma monolith]

idk, but after i reach 100% with plasma sprinting does nothing

[heavy glen]

if you wanna see the opposite of that check this hades 1 occurrence https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/mwe0f4/while_at_61_running_speed_from_chaos_i_took_a/

[unreal hare]

Don't sleep on the magick/hp rooms, theyre 50 each
Pretty good value

[prisma monolith]

i always the hp rooms

[pastel lava]

probably a stupid question but im trying to do the dressed to kill achievement and im in the 3 area so i just wanna make sure the paid dues legendary boon also makes me not loose armor as well as health right?

[last ridge]

RNJesus has abandoned me then lmao

So many runs and meet Heracles like 5-6 times, meet Nemesis on the run also like 6-7 times and half of that is her in shop so I can't get fair trade....

[unreal hare]

Heracles is rng

[craggy totem]

Eheheheheheheh. This man is always doing a cool slow-mo entrance 😎

[prisma monolith]

i was really hoping nemesis would show up above after that one conversation with hecate

[unreal hare]

But he can show up in all 3 regions

Would've loved if nemesis had a counter boon/keepsake

[craggy totem]

Yes, the damage goes Dues -> Armor -> Health

[unreal hare]

The more an enemy damages you the more damage you deal to it
Would've probably been super hard to balance but still

[heavy glen]

they probably tested his run cycled this way

[prisma monolith]

does paid dues cover chaos entrance dmg

[pastel lava]

oke thanks i just wanted to make sure i really wanna get it done this run and i could take nitro bots if it didnt work

[craggy totem]

No, chaos entrance is lose health and not take damage

[jaunty basin]

yeah no this run was a loss

[prisma monolith]

[unreal hare]

Chaos boons are so fun

I hope we can get a mod that adds a chaos portal in every room or smth

Would be so fun to always be cursed but also be op

[prisma monolith]

reminds me that one time where i took the attack and special bane

[craggy totem]

Knockoff version of that one "dodge/sprint to damage only" speedrun category

[prisma monolith]

(i died)

[heavy glen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1o56dks/this_arcana_blows_getting_hit_by_it_was_entirely/

[jaunty basin]

okay but thats just insanely toxic, you need an incantation to be allowed to pause during the unrivaled chronos fight. That is just not fun

[little oar]

is there a way to obtain the boons of the olympians you meet on the surface while going through the underworld
Or are they exclusive to topside runs?

[craggy totem]

Some of them will show up in the underworld naturally. Others you can keepsake.

[prisma monolith]

only athenas

[craggy totem]

Ares you originally meet on the Surface, and he just shows up after that.

[last ridge]

yeah I know they're great, especially if I somehow get Medea's 5magik each room and Hephaetus's more HP based on magik...

[pastel lava]

what does extended family actually increase the dmg of? from reading the text i thoguht it was maybe my blitz or my rapture ring but neither of them went up in dmg?

[prisma monolith]

yes

jk i dont remember what extended family reads

[craggy totem]

Are you looking at the boon text or are you going off damage numbers while hitting mobs, when you say "neither of them went up in dmg"?

[pastel lava]

the boon nummbers on the tooltip they usualy change as you get buffed

[prisma monolith]

the number just increases

[unreal hare]

Hope you had a damage cast

[prisma monolith]

i didnt

[craggy totem]

Ah, rereading the specific boons and stuff you mentioned -- neither of those actually increases your damage, does it?

[unreal hare]

LOOOL RIP

[craggy totem]

I assume it's talking about stuff like Demeter's attack boon that gives you +dmg as well as freeze -- the +dmg part of that would get buffed.

[pastel lava]

oh so it only affects the ones that says like attack damage : +50% ? or special dmg

[craggy totem]

That is how I took the text, at any rate. And seems to so far dovetail with your observations.

[prisma monolith]

what does it say

[pastel lava]

i dont have a boon like that but from what i saw nooone of my boons got any higher numbers from it

[craggy totem]

All right, the wiki just says it should be anything that deals damage -- so I was incorrect. Probably just the boon text won't reflect it directly and you'll have to look at dmg numbers on mobs.

[crude laurel]

Yeah, that was it

[pastel lava]

"your damaging effects from Olympians are stronger for each Boon- giver you have
Current Bonus Effect Damage +24%"

[prisma monolith]

iirc that only affects blitz, scorch, etc

[craggy totem]

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Hera/Boons

[cursive nacelle]

should work on rupture ring

rule of thumb: damage from boons that is colored should be affected by it

[prisma monolith]

^

[pastel lava]

weird they didint get increased in the tooltip then they usual do

[craggy totem]

It's not modifying the boons, it's modifying the damage output at the end of the boons being applied, I guess?

[prisma monolith]

the wiki especificially says it DOES NOT apply to percentage based effetts

[stoic urchin]

including wounds?

[cursive nacelle]

not wounds unfortunately

[prisma monolith]

oh you said youre incorrect

[pastel lava]

i guess that makes sense i guess il keep the boon then instead of saccing it

[stoic urchin]

aw

it would have been crazy

i suppose swords are affected though

[prisma monolith]

wounds is effectively a % dmg increase in a cooldown

[cursive nacelle]

ye swords are affected

[prisma monolith]

isnt any "extra dmg"

[unreal hare]

God I wish we had a wiki that isnt fandom

[craggy totem]

I'm just going to take this moment to complain about Ares having red damage text

It's alarming >:(

[crude dragon]

Isn't it only red on the hit that applies Wounds?

[craggy totem]

We were talking about colored damage text ^

[stoic urchin]

its a different red than "taking damage" red

[prisma monolith]

can always use the anti fandom extension

[craggy totem]

Do I look like a graphic designer to you... these old eyes of mine ain't parsing out no hex codes.

[stoic urchin]

aphrodite attacks n specials are just better, no?

[heavy glen]

that reads like a mix of cranky kong and chronos

[raw mortar]

friend told me hades 2 was worse than the first game? whats yalls takes?

[prisma monolith]

raw %, yes, wounds come with extra effects tho

[stoic urchin]

they both have way different vibes and i enjoy them both equally

[heavy glen]

generally people say the gameplay is equal to better and the story is worse

[raw mortar]

how much worse is the story

[heavy glen]

generally.

[craggy totem]

Aphrodite's are all for melee, right? I guess if you're relying on ranged, that could be an issue.

[prisma monolith]

unless you have the thing where everything is considered near

[stoic urchin]

wounds does count as a status effect too

hmmm

[split shuttle]

mel staff dual moonshot aphro special exists

[heavy glen]

#h2-story-discussion can help

[craggy totem]

45.28% in terms of Objective Narrative Story Units, because a story being good is definitely something objectively measurable in units

[ocean bough]

ok WHAT do i need to do to get the acceptance of another fate incantation? i swear i've done the requirements unless im missing something glaring.

[heavy glen]

yeah, it depends

[prisma monolith]

i tyhink you should judge the story by yourself, i think the story was good, if you just read #h2-story-discussion you might just get turned off because of all the negativity in there @raw mortar

[heavy glen]

fair point

[prisma monolith]

just cause someone else didnt like it, doesnt mean you wont

[still dagger]

any tips for rival eris? the laser is so strong. especially when there's multiple beams

[prisma monolith]

same as regular eris

[stoic urchin]

i just dont like it when all the chunky extra damage is tanked by the armor of armored enemies and now you deal teddy bear damage for next 3 seconds

[raw mortar]

not 45.22% then? I must've been lied to!

[heavy glen]

insert the Narrator commenting something witty here

[craggy totem]

Just stand behind her, right?

[stoic urchin]

this was specially bad in a zorephet run I had

[raw mortar]

I mean its gonna take years for the game to go on sale so ill probably play it in 10 years

[cursive nacelle]

hades 1 has a more casual tone
hades 2 has better gameplay no contest
hades 2 is prettier in general
hades 2 has a more divisive story while everyone agrees on H1 story being good. I like hades 2 story but i can understand why not everyone agrees on that

[raw mortar]

My backlog is huge

[still dagger]

I actually like the story. It's more serious and grand. h1 was more personal. I haven't fi nished the ending, it could be better but I still like the idea.

tl;dr you might like it more than h1 or not, but the story is still good

[unreal hare]

Games go in sale fast so I'll probably see you here in a year or 2

[still dagger]

also, characters are better and voice-acting is better. in my opinion

[unreal hare]

Also about the story, I really enjoyed it. :D

[raw mortar]

whats the biggest problem with the story? impersonal?

[heavy glen]

mainly the abruptness of the ending

[craggy totem]

Parts of it are oddly paced and lack impact.

[stoic urchin]

poseidon has infinitely more unc status in h2 than h1

[storm summit]

Does anyone know what the mod is that allows you to test the benefits before starting the run?

[heavy glen]

even people that like the ending/resolution think it would benefit from more time given to it

[still dagger]

the ending has an element that doesn't make sense. that's all. story is still personal, but h1 seems more like high school in comparison to h2. h2 is a real world-saving thing going

[heavy glen]

which is kinda funny given the game's theme

[still dagger]

what's unc?

[crude dragon]

Uncle

[raw mortar]

its a time issue, I have about 10 unplayed masterpieceses in my library with 50 more on the wishlist and its ever growing. I've had to resort to not 100% games anymore because I will literally did before I finish a third of it otherwise

[craggy totem]

Overall though, I feel that asking around with strangers to figure out if something as subjective as narrative will be up your alley is just not gonna get the best results.

[stoic urchin]

hades 1 Most accurate tagline:

Zagreus gets a job.

[heavy glen]

relevant https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/6igypa/with_every_rpg_i_have_left_to_beat_and_the_older/

[hearty timber]

Can someone help me understand how speedrunners load their medea attacks so fast? I always have to pause for a few seconds for the attack to load

[still dagger]

trailer voice; follow zagreus and his father on their whaaaacky adventure [zag quip] [audience laugh]

[stoic urchin]

"you want to see your mother, boy? I Will Kill You."

[crude dragon]

You can queue up the attack during the special

[still dagger]

zag; meg, why are you carrying a whip? [audience loses it]

[heavy glen]

hades 2 is 'melinoe goes to war'

[raw mortar]

kinda this but i put at least 100hrs into every game. I need 400-500 to feel like ive actually "beaten" it, at that point i dont have long to live

[hearty timber]

Hmmm I see, it's a high skill weapon

[still dagger]

wow, why do you need to spend so much time on a game? just have fun

[heavy glen]

i played hades 1 for....425 hours, wow

most games are a lot less

[still dagger]

yeah, do it for fun, not so you can feel like you beat it. sounds like an obligation

[heavy glen]

but no less satisfying <3

[still dagger]

this is kind of like why i dislike crafting/management games. they're so open ended I don't get to play other games as often