h2-discussion

[nova oar]

People can't read, or open their eyes

[hearty timber]

Yes lol, she's hilarious, she's very earnest about being strife, I love it

[fervent silo]

How do I get circe to deepen bond?

[fervent silo]

Eris is probably the worst character in both games. No motivation, no regrets, no development. Just being rude and impatient throughout the entire game with no change to her behavior

[hoary stag]

that's kinda the point i think

[fervent silo]

Being a bad character is the point?

[ebon crow]

not changing, having no regret for her action

[hoary stag]

yeah pretty much

[fervent silo]

That doesn't excuse her actions though

Why would I want to deepen my bond with someone like this, let alone allow her to be at the hideout

[ebon crow]

she is "made" to create discord 😅

[upper siren]

Anyone got a list of what Hestia's Heat Rush protects against?

[fervent silo]

That still doesn't excuse her. The point of the game is "you are your own fate", and even after the epilogue Eris still decides to change nothing

Also very one-sided discord dont you think

[ebon crow]

so yes, she accept herself and decide to not change

[fervent silo]

So why would I like her and build relationships with her

There's no redeeming qualities or reasons for her to be the way she is

[pulsar glacier]

cause "I can fix her" :^)

[fervent silo]

She tells multiple times you can't

[pulsar glacier]

you never can fix them

[fervent silo]

Also as far as I remember she also says doing what she's doing is her choice and not her nature, she enjoys being an ass

Nemesis is also very annoying but at least she has a deep personal reason to be this way and she actually DOES change throughout her social link

[pulsar glacier]

also shes a mommy

[limpid oar]

Consider the following: Eris is fun to be around and that's enough reason for Mel to pursue her. "You can't change people if they don't want to change" is also a pretty big life lesson for Mel, so if anything Eris is doing her a favour by making her realise that

[nova oar]

I like masc lesbians

Those are my thoughts on eris

That is all

[limpid oar]

Based

[fervent silo]

How is she masculine lol

Aside from the haircut she's traditionally feminine, even wears makeup

True lesbian GOAT is Artemis

[upper siren]

Am I missing something about Aphrodite/Demeter duo Hearty Appetite, or is it just the most worthless duo in the game?

+10% weapon damage for every 100 max health.

[fervent silo]

Ya its pretty bad you'll probably get like +30% at most

[ebon crow]

I wonder if it's the most worthless, but yes very barebone in general

[fervent silo]

I think the most hp i got was shy of 400, though in hades 1 I remember getting around 500

[upper siren]

Even if you go all out and get something crazy like 500 hp, it's still really bad, a weapon based build should easily hit 300-400%, this wouldn't even be noticeable.

I've hit 1000 hp once before, and even that wouldn't save it

[fervent silo]

Pick aphro mirror > rarify passion strike > win

[limpid oar]

this could be global damage rather than weapon damage and it still wouldn't be anything crazy

grievous blow is better than this duo

[upper siren]

It would be solid if built for then

[fervent silo]

What is transistor role

[nova oar]

You're not the sharpest lightbulb in the shed are you

[limpid oar]

Transistor is another one of Supergiant's games, in this server there is a role for every game

[fervent silo]

Ah okay, i see thanks

[fervent silo]

Far from it tbh

I traded math and science autism for roguelike autism

Ive 100% like 10 of them and hades 2 is next

[nova oar]

You really can't make s**t like this up 😭

[fervent silo]

I can make far greater stuff up just you wait and see

[strange berry]

Does someone know how work the lvl upgrade from Persephone weapon please? :[

[limpid oar]

It's random

[cinder gorge]

do aspect of moros explosions count as specials or attacks?

[nova oar]

Attacks

[cinder gorge]

figured as much, just wanted to confirm. Thanks

[strange berry]

Is there a way to fish for it at the start?

[ebon crow]

random chance to give lvl to each boon proposed, the more lvl, the least chence to get it (like +6lvl is very rare). Stack with hades pom

[limpid oar]

If you have the incantation, you can spam resets until your boon is highly pommed

[strange berry]

what incantation?

[limpid oar]

Uhh there's a late game incantation that lets you salute the oath to reset the seed before the run

[strange berry]

I don't have that

[ebon crow]

it's unlocked after the epilogue

[teal zephyr]

Acceptance of another fate

[limpid oar]

Then if you really want to, you can just die in room 1 and try again until you get your highly pommed boon

[strange berry]

Okay thanks

[heavy glen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1o3ov6j/honestly_my_fault_for_trying_new_familiars/

[hearty timber]

Just unlocked every achievement in hades 2, my last run was shiva with apollo attack, weed killer and apollo legendary

Also night for good measure lol

[nova oar]

Shiva mentioned

[hearty timber]

Shiva is awesome and very powerful

[nova oar]

I agree

[daring sorrel]

Okay, for anyone who doesn't know why the ||nightmares|| doesn't appear in ||charon's stash|| it's because you now need to ||maximize ||your ||relationship ||with him + have 8 ||nightmares ||with you

[limpid oar]

imagine not having the greatest gift of gaia

[ivory zodiac]

what do i need to do to see kiss of styx at charon shop? im 90+runs in and have yet to see it. same with last gasp from ||hades||

[nova oar]

Bad luck

[vital pine]

So what wound up happening is eventually I ordered some other stuff through the stash and eventually had a conversation where Charon promoted me to 'silver rewards status' or something and that unlocked the nightmare
So it seems to be either spending a certain amount or getting a certain number of orders through the stash first, not linked to how much nightmare you've gotten elsewhere anymore

I absolutely didn't have a maxed out relationship with him, though I'm not sure how many nightmare I had on me

[summer heron]

is there a bug report feature on this discord?
I found a small but kinda funny thing

[woeful oriole]

wait i thought it was global damage this whole time lol

[limpid oar]

Press F10 ingame

[woeful oriole]

10% weapon damage is pathetic

[nova oar]

I figured it out, you need to have a certain amount of hearts with charon, and at least 8 nmare

[heavy glen]

what was the bug?

[summer heron]

it was just something small and funny, got stuck behind the wall in the final area of the underworld by punching it

[arctic tinsel]

Hello,

I don't know if this bug is related to Alpha or so.
I played in Early Access for like 30h, then I came back after full release. I have ompleted "Deathly Fortune" Incantation, but I am only able to sell fishes, I can't sell greeneries, can't buy Kudos. Is there a fix for this? Ngl this is a bit frustrating. I don't wanna start over with over 70h in.

Description at the Cauldron also states I can only sell fishes

[buoyant matrix]

for born to gain, take the embryo keepsake to chaos 2-3 times
for arachne, i haven't done it myself yet but i heard at some point you have to take athena's keepsake to her

[ebon crow]

I see, thanks

[nova oar]

Do y'all listen to the game audio or your own music when you play

[dry cipher]

Game audio

Sightless Shepherd wont listen to itself

[limpid oar]

Game audio, both because audio cues are a thing and because the audio is just nice

[buoyant matrix]

audio cues, sightless shepherd, olympus aflame, the end of time

[nova oar]

Damn what audio cues am I missing out on

[honest solar]

ok guys i think im done with hades, i did the fear i want to do. anything i can do to spice it up?

[nova oar]

more fear

Uhhh speedrunning

[honest solar]

i dont like speedrunning tbh me too slow and more fear would be unfun.

[strong ingot]

any way to tell what fish I'm missing to make Uncle Poseidon love me? 😔

[fresh steeple]

can geyser spout be combined with prominence flare?

nvm it can i got it ingame

[hearty timber]

You should take a break and play other games

Or you can decorate the crossroads, I'll suggest getting the figurine shelf

[buoyant matrix]

check your inventory for all fish types you've already found. each region should have 3 fish, for a total of 27 fish types

[strong ingot]

yeah they're all there ☹️

but it still says he wants me to prove my prowess with the fishing rod

[buoyant matrix]

may take a while to get the dialogue
i was catching fish since early access and he still took a while to say it after 1.0

[strong ingot]

thanks

[honest solar]

im done with the game story an decoration wise

[buoyant matrix]

if you don't like more fear or speedrunning then there's nothing left really
all good things eventually come to an end

[honest solar]

unless sgg makes another game or dlc

[buoyant matrix]

see you in 5 years soldier, good luck killing time 🫡

[paper marsh]

hades four

can sgg make an RTS maybe please

[ebon crow]

lol, just done a full run with Athena keepsake without any proc (chronos run)

[still dagger]

H3: Prelude

You play as Chronos in his fight against his father Uranus, and later on against his sons

[nova oar]

Did u have dd's

[ebon crow]

yes, didn't lost any

oh... forgot she don't trigger with DD 😅

[nova oar]

Nice one

[dusk mirage]

H3 gameplay: you play as persephone and she gets to actually raise her kid this time for once

[thorn field]

H3: Epilogue. You play as Frinos and he becomes OP asf

[cobalt flint]

you say that as if frinos isnt already OP...

[hollow lily]

What fear you on rn

I'm on 12

Wanna up to 20 once I'm done with Story

[fresh kelp]

Then go up to 60

[hollow lily]

After 20. The hunt begins for 60

[hollow lily]

Bet. Do all my uni assignments for me and I'll do it

[fresh kelp]

Time to kill time along with sanity, sleep and all regular chores

My guy

[hollow lily]

I got a fcking degree to finish dawg

[fresh kelp]

I was kidding dw 😈

[hollow lily]

https://tenor.com/view/mpreg-attack-mpreg-male-pregnancy-umineko-battler-gif-18357008315878662279

[honest solar]

i just beat 48

[hollow lily]

Mooooods bring back gifs and pics to this chat. The game is out already

[hollow lily]

I kneel

[honest solar]

im not that good the keepsakes and boons carried

[hollow lily]

I'm the opposite

[honest solar]

wdym youre super good and keepsakes and boons make you bad?

[woeful oriole]

dont think those were ever allowed, hades1 chat never had them either

[honest solar]

does anyone know why everytime i die i return to the crossroads with the calling card equipped even if that wasnt the keepsake i had when i died

also why when the eris fight is over the black gooze turns into fire when i stand in it

are these bugs or intended its getting annoying

[ebon crow]

there is an incantation that let you lock a keepsake to begin the next run with (there is a little yellow pin in the top left of the "favorite" keepsake)

[honest solar]

literally any black ooze turns to fire even if the encounter is over

[honest solar]

ok ill see

ok yeah its prioritized i am foolish

the black ooze though?

[ebon crow]

the black thing in the boat during second regions in surface

[honest solar]

ik why does it ignite even if the encounters over

[hollow lily]

I'm the opposite

[hollow lily]

They were

[slow stag]

Is there a certain way you're intended to unlock the hidden aspects of the daggers and skull? I swear I've been pounding my head against a wall for the past 7 hours trying to get them unlocked and Artemis and Medea refuse to give me the waking phrase. Have at least 1 aspect for either at max rank, tried interacting with them with any weapon, their weapon, only thing I have yet to try is interacting with Artemis with the daggers with her aspect, with Artemis have done it both on the surface and underworld. What else am I missing

[honest solar]

you max rank them and talk to selene a lot

[ebon crow]

when you said "at least one aspect at max rank", is it melinoe weapon or another one ? (need non-melinoe max rank)

[limpid oar]

I can't believe people are impersonating Foolish in this very discord smh my head

[jolly wing]

What triggers Chaos Trials incantation? I beat Main story and I still don't have access to it.

[tulip salmon]

Has anyone completely finished the game full + full ? i wanna ask a question about late game

[ebon crow]

nearly 100%, you can ask

[tulip salmon]

can we talk spoiler here?

[ebon crow]

yes, just use spoiler balise "||"

two "|" before, two after for spoiler

[tulip salmon]

got it ty so much im doing now

summary i cleared the game i saw credits i completed all prophecies fulled all decorations i fulled the rank || unseen 1 || all familiars weapons bounds aspects all done. still in shop there is 2 item || shaderot and iron || its says u need it for future upgrade

[buoyant matrix]

may be for the tartarus purging pool restoration incant that was added in unseen patch

if you've been playing before unseen and had already seen the pool, that incant will never appear

[tulip salmon]

ye i play game since day 1 early acces

[buoyant matrix]

oh yeah it's that then, just ignore it

[narrow mist]

idk if this is the right place but is there any guides on how to unlock all hearts

[pine mesa]

does scorch cap at 999?

[ebon crow]

yes

[bronze stream]

is the wiki up to date in terms of poseidon cast still being bugged with cast % upgrades?

[pine mesa]

damn :(

[buoyant matrix]

the wiki is outdated with a ton of things so don't count on it

[bronze stream]

hey everybody

[raw mortar]

hades 2 on 95% sale when?

[bronze stream]

can one of yall update the wiki pls

[rocky agate]

fr

[buoyant matrix]

supergiant's first game that came out like 13 years ago recently went on sale and it was -80%
basically, never

[bronze stream]

just be glad its not Factorio

[tulip salmon]

alr ty u. i feel relieved. coz that '' Needed Resource'' icon killing me

[agile shoal]

does anyone know when the soundtrack will be released on spotify?

[buoyant matrix]

no, it's all available on their youtube though

[agile shoal]

i want to hear it in the correct order

is music maker the correct way?

[buoyant matrix]

there's a full album video on their youtube too

[agile shoal]

oh yeah right mb

[raw mortar]

i mean hades 1 was basically free a few weeks ago

[red sand]

anyone got a detailed guide on how to ||cure arachne? i cant seem to get athena to talk about her||

[buoyant matrix]

i think you have to take the gorgon amulet to her

[raw mortar]

any reasoning behind the change in character art?

[buoyant matrix]

which one in particular?

[raw mortar]

from 1 to 2 most of the gods look a lot different in the steam trailers

[little frost]

oh lol yeah everyone got updated designs for h2 if they are returning

it's war time, after all, some of them try to look like it

[buoyant matrix]

well they can't just reuse the same art lol. the gods will have obviously changed a lot over the years and also have geared up for a full blown war against chronos

[hollow lily]

In 5 years

[raw mortar]

fair

[raw mortar]

i saw like zeus looked a lil weird, maybe my eyes are bad

[hollow lily]

Aphrodite looks as breedable as ever

[little frost]

yeah man

whatever

[lyric quartz]

Nah he’s just wearing armor now and has extra effects in his hair

[bronze stream]

aphro didnt really change her outfit

[little frost]

she's probably actually wearing slightly more in h2 but, ya know

[bronze stream]

if you beat max fear surface she should be on mt olympus with her hair in a ponytail

[lunar merlin]

how to get "he who rebels against the gods" in the three fates quest? im assuming its prometheus but ive run into him a lot of times already and nothing happened

[little frost]

just gotta keep goin to him

[lunar merlin]

does oath of rivals matter for it?

[buoyant matrix]

he looks good in-game

[modern zephyr]

I'm wiling to pay for multiplayer option that connects hades 1 and 2

[little frost]

I don't think so

[stone maple]

the best voice line in the game is "HAVE ANOTHER!"

[mental sable]

Anyone knows how exactly surface closed doors work? I just noticed that after clearing the room and destroying "cubic soul cotainer" one of the door suddenly opened. Is there a mechanic for that?

[tidal raven]

so I noticed some green damage numbers during a boss fight, does anyone know what that represents?

[bronze marlin]

my best guess is hitch ^

[lyric quartz]

That’s exactly what it is

Red is Wounds, Blue is Poseidon splash, Yellow is Blitz, Green is Hitch, and burgundy is Circe’s laser effect

[tidal raven]

that makes a lot of sense, thank you! I guess it's more like aquamarine like Hera's dress so that tracks

[limpid iron]

haii guys does anyone have tips in completing the surface im struggling a bit :3

[bronze marlin]

speaking about hera: can we all agree that her dash is a very good boon since 1.0?
I often prefer this one over other stuff now. damage might be a little bit too high even, now that the range is great.

[limpid iron]

i was able to kill chronus multiple times but cant seem to do it with typhoon im assuming its cuz im using aspect of medea and its quite harder to do it on the surface but im not sure

[lyric quartz]

It is absolutely ridiculous on Supay

[bronze marlin]

me: "pomming a dash, what am I doing? wow this is good"

[lyric quartz]

Thing about the Typhon fight is if you’re stilling learning it is, it is more prudent to fight defensively than just going full DPS Chungus on him because he does have phase shifts where he becomes invincible for at least 30 seconds each

[limpid iron]

thats true

[polar abyss]

Typhon has attacks that cover the full arena, so stay out of the zones or dodge depending on the location;
Lasers: Left to Right (and in later phases, a second laser from Right to Left)
Chim Slam: Up
Exploding Balls: Down
Tentacles: Down -> Middle -> Up

[inland maple]

Early on with fighting Typhon I did get a bit spooked about getting up in their face but got a lot better with it later on

[bronze marlin]

for the first few phases of typhon it's also important to know that he can not do the same attack twice in a row and will always headbutt if you are close. so it will be headbutt -> random -> headbutt -> random and so on.
being able to dodge the headbutt consistently is the most important part, as he does it the most

[stiff burrow]

Feel like I hit the money shot:

• use energy on hit (5)
• regain energy on hit (7)
• attack hits 3x (hammer)
• lightning bolt on energy spend

[fair patrol]

Death To Chronos.

[jolly hound]

It’s supposed to be harder than the underworld, for whatever that’s worth to ya. Highly recommend doing side rooms in ephyra, you can usually net out three or four medium rewards (hearts mana etc) on top of the six you get. That’s gonna go a long way especially early

[bronze marlin]

you can see which doors will open before it even happens. it is a bit hard to see at times, but the ones that will not open have an X on the door or on the wall next to it. if you use headphones you can also hear the doors opening if they are off screen.

[jolly hound]

And if you beat the crap out of Prometheus comfortably, you’re gonna beat typhon too just don’t get complacent

[limpid iron]

thats good to know!! i died multiple times without knowing what hit me 😭😭

[jolly hound]

also the arcana that allows rerolls of bad rewards into decent ones makes the second biome WAY more productive

[limpid iron]

oh i get u i was especially struggling with that since i was rocking aspect of medea (a really close range fighting style) aspect

[limpid iron]

oh hell yea i was not aware of that

[limpid iron]

ill make sure to do so tysm :3

[wheat needle]

oh my god, is there a way to increase the chance of seeing circe

[limpid iron]

always have to lose at least a life or two on him 😭

[bronze marlin]

just think about it like this (that's how it went for me for a long time):
you dodge every headbutt and tongue attack and you will win. the rest still deals a ton of damage, but it isn't enough to kill you fast enough 😛

[inland maple]

I have to credit Hades II for requiring bosses to require more attention as such than they did in the original, felt like a nice ramp up

[limpid iron]

thats fair 😭

[limpid iron]

RIGHT?

[teal zephyr]

Don't dash sideways on the chin slam trust me

The one typhon attack I still haven't mastered is the one where he spits a projectile that splits into 3

[thick bronze]

help im use lightning king item and its not giving me at least epic for attack even tho i keep undoing night for like 5 times

[inland maple]

Yeah obtaining a speed/dash buff is always a good thing to have when learning it imo

[dry pebble]

Losing to typhoon with 500hp sucks 😔

[inland maple]

Thankfully never had any close call deaths this time, I did get put down to 40 health on my 5th Typhon kill

And Prometheus nearly got me a couple times

I had so many close deaths against Hades and Theseus before finally getting them in the first game haha

[jolly hound]

prolly gotta reset the seed, die and try again

[uneven gulch]

I think dodging that one is dashing forward with a precise timing

[thick bronze]

i planted wheat and mystery seed but i didnt know it affects

[mental sable]

Thanks for answering, but I swear the door opened long after I collected award. Normally it happens instantly after. I just destroyed soul container and door suddenly opened then.

[jolly hound]

my bad, seed in this context refers to the random set of boons you get at the beginning. If you start with Hera keepsake and are offered epic attack common special and common cast, should you reset it’ll be the same boon rarities and types for a different god. so you’ll need to finish a run to get a new starting “seed”, that’s the term that’s used for the rng that decides how your run starts, planting seeds is unrelated but I see why it was confusing

If you undo night it’ll be the same seed resulting in the same non epic boon

[limpid iron]

oh dude that one sucks so much >~<

[limpid oar]

It has received a much-needed glow-up, its only downside now is that it doesn't play very nice with other sources of hitch and the hitch tier 2 boon that increases damage and duration of hitch

[cursive bane]

which is the minimum level of fear I need to play to unlock all the rewards? 20?
like contracts and so on

[bronze marlin]

I think I never took the increased hitch duration before using this one heh. I can see how it is a little bit of a anti-synergy here, but MORE and bigger number

and yes, 20 fear is the highest testament in the oath

[limpid oar]

32 if you count cosmetic rewards

[uneven gulch]

I don't even do the testaments, I just max out all my credit cards on nightmare

[limpid oar]

Also uh holydr4gon are you a high rated WoW PvPer by any chance? The name sounds vaguely familiar and I see you've got holy light as your icon

[old dawn]

hi guys, sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place - does anyone have any insight into progressing the ||Icarus|| romance? I've been stuck at ||"Icarus is reluctant to accept Ambrosia until you've had more time to reconnect"|| for 20+ runs now :/ I've passed the credits scene.

[bronze marlin]

sadly this is another case of: just do more runs.
he has a ton of dialogue if you encounter him in thessaly/olympus. need to get more of those

[teal zephyr]

Keep doing surface runs is all you can do unfortunately

[old dawn]

thanks all!!

[hallow gate]

dude does anyone who has done the epilogue know what i need to hear from ||heracles|| to finish|| his part of "melinoe seek us"||

i have done a million runs, finished his bond, talked to him a trillion times

[limpid oar]

I believe it's ||some vow of rivals Prom specific dialogue||

[hallow gate]

||i kick his ass on vow of rivals every night||

god almighty is it like 30 times fighting him then or something?

just getting frustrating that im being separated from the epilogue by one bit of dialogue ive done a million runs to try and find

[limpid oar]

uhh if that's the case then idk what it could be, sorry 😭

[bronze marlin]

||could try playing without rivals 3 a few times.|| I doubt this changes anything, but this seems to take way too long for you.

[hallow gate]

yeah i am unsure what that would change

but i have beat ||prom and heracles on rivals|| at least ||15-20 times||

**since the bond was formed

[bronze marlin]

all I know: I did like 4 runs with it on, then turned it off for like 8, turned it back on and got the thing.
that's the only reason I suggested it hah

[hallow gate]

oh word?

well anything is worth a try at this point i suppose

[teal zephyr]

I never turned off rivals 3 and still got it

[bronze marlin]

good, then my suggestion is nonsense

[wheat fog]

i only realized dionysus has that big thing under his waist because it meant lust and degeneracy in ancient greek lol
and small pps meant self control and civilization but dionysus clearly doesnt have that

[viscid bear]

||I have already beaten the main story (I think) and defeated cronos and typhoon with cronos, did another full run in underworld but nothing, so how to get zagreus/hades/cronos keepsakes?||

need help but heavy spoilers above

[cursive nacelle]

keep meeting them and itll happen

[wheat fog]

zag || beat his minigame bossfight twice, you can gift him ||
hades || meet him at tartarus, you can gift him and persephone ||
cronos || after you finish erebus, he'll be there next to charons well and keep talking to him and you'll be able to gift him ||

[final token]

Guys does anyone know how many ||ranks|| are there after beating the game ?

[viscid bear]

||is cronos a thid time visit needed? cuz I was making sure I could gift him but the option didnt appear||

[wheat fog]

what ranks

[wheat fog]

just keep talking to him, you'll eventually get it

[viscid bear]

alright thanks

[final token]

Specters, Nightmare, etc

[wheat fog]

do not waste your kudos and mats on that unless you have nothing else to do lmao, it does nothing and is very expensive and only shows in your inventory and victory screen
the ranks are wraith, specter, revenant, nightmare, unseen tho

[final token]

I don't have nothing else to do 🤣

[final token]

ok so 5 times 10 ?

[wheat fog]

50 ranks ye, total of 95000 kudos, 15 of each boss items and 15 nightmares

[final token]

Ok chill i am to nightmare 7

17 left

[rustic snow]

JUST finished the ranks myself, its a pretty hefty grind. I pretty much just ran Raki with Grave Thirst for hte gems thanks to some advice in here. Pretty just went Shiva Coat with Apollo, Circe with either Storm ring or Arctic ring with the Zues Duo, Pos-Pan knives, Supay with Hera, Pos, or Hestia dash, Charon Hammer with Lucid, and ofc my fav, Medea with Zues Special. I also almost soley did surface runs, since builds come together much faster up there 9 times outta 10

[still dagger]

which hidden aspects are considered good? I'm not feeling the blades', but the axe seems good though I need to try it out

[finite talon]

So I'm close to 100 hours into the game, and was wondering why I don't get more tiers on vow of rivals. I've read requirements, and defeating Charybdis is one of them. I have never encountered this boss. What gives

[tropic monolith]

the rift has two minibosses and they're kind of stupid rare to encounter, just gotta grind it until you find her 🙁

[red sand]

how many times do i need to do this? she never once mentioned arachne and I brought the amulet like 3 times to her

[finite talon]

The other one being the pirate fella, right? Which I see often

[tropic monolith]

yeeeeep.

Supergiant really should have made Charybdis a guaranteed encounter once you beat the first tier of the vow of rivals

[rose canyon]

It's funny how most questions can be answered with "keep playing" and "interact with everyone and everything"

[finite talon]

I wonder if it's a bug at this point. I fought him probably dozen times now

[tropic monolith]

Yeah but it's sad you can spend 100 hours and never encounter one of the minibosses

...that gates progression

[finite talon]

I mean, I'll keep playing. It's just weird that after finishing the story, getting all the night's champion statues, unlocking almost everything there's still a miniboss that never appeared just because of rng

[rose canyon]

RNG is a vitch yea

[tropic monolith]

probably gotta get through all the story related dialogue first, which she has ... a lot. And is rarely seen.

[tropic monolith]

it's bad design in this case, full rng should never be applied to something key for people to find/do

[rose canyon]

Stop talking Moros and give me the prophecy thanks

[tropic monolith]

at least that can just be done by X runs and you're guaranteed to get it, full rng has no guaranteed X you'll ever see something

And some people are just that unlucky

1 in a million odds will still be expected to hit a few poor people, given how many units have sold 😛

[brazen merlin]

Is there a way to sync icue rgb lights with hades 2? I've been using a PS controllers and it's way more fun seeing it sync the colors on the controller than I expected

[dusk dove]

just curious, any idea when we will get hades 2 (from fangamer) merch or no?

[mortal jetty]

how do i unlock the improbable outcomes prophecy for the achievement?

[spark vessel]

I took off the eris bell why is it still active in the next region 😭😭😭😭

[mortal jetty]

that is how it works, it lingers the whole run

[spark vessel]

GG this run is cooked

Eris when I get my hands on you

[merry iris]

spoiler ||i just unlocked that shiva aspect of black coat and its literally chuging nukes at mobs idk if its not game of the year, idk what game needs to have to be||

[crude dragon]

They changed it to be that way in the last major patch

[crude dragon]

Silksong

[merry iris]

didnt play it yet but from what i heard its peak too like expedition 33

[spark vessel]

Uh , ok thanks I didn't connect my laptop to internet in quite a few days

I didn't even knew there was an update

[dusk dove]

i find it funny that people delayed their games to not deal with silksong only to have to deal with hades 2 and dying light the beast

[spark vessel]

Lmao

[crude dragon]

I mean back when the Unseen update dropped

[spark vessel]

Oh it was pre release update thing ?

[crude dragon]

Yeah

[unreal temple]

Do you get any incantation by doing that Medea quest of ||collecting Cerberus' tears||? I completed it and got nothing

[spark vessel]

Oh right I didn't partake in early access to know

[crude dragon]

TBF, it makes sense that you wouldn't know about it since Bell's such garbage that no one wants to equip it :3

[spark vessel]

[cursive nacelle]

You are supposed to talk to medea again

[unreal temple]

I did, several times

I've also gifted her the quest item

[winter zenith]

Do any of you have tips on how to make Howling Soul work?
I don't mind the other aim your cast boons but this one usually feels kinda hard to aim/use

[spark vessel]

Is there anything that could save me at this point ? ||I was going for 5th death of Typhon||

[crude dragon]

Well, I'd suggest looking for defensive boons like stuff from Hephaestus, Demeter, and Nitro Boost from Hermes

[spark vessel]

My stupid butt used this keepsake at first region 🥲

[spark vessel]

Wallahi I'm cooked , none of them will be in my run if I don't use another keepsake

[jaunty basin]

it has innate tracking and goes the wrong way 90% of the time so either treat it as a melee range thing or get winners circle so you can cast again sooner when it misses

[spark vessel]

It's so joever

[smoky rover]

I have had the sell well for ages now. Is there a second sell well incantation?

[remote locust]

Fig Leaf just skipped the Jellyfish midboss room for me
Fig Leaf just raised an entire tier in my keepsakes tier list lol

[smoky rover]

I do have the incantation. I just paused in the rivals 4 fight.

[spark vessel]

It can do that ?

[crude dragon]

Imagine being able to do the same thing in Thessaly

Charybdis just takes the day off

[remote locust]

Walk in on Charybdis enjoying a martini and ignoring you

[smoky rover]

where can I find the bank file containing my incantations?

[hearty timber]

Does anyone have any theories who the one pig with sad eyes and an anchor painted on his side is on circe's island

[smoky rover]

if there is such a thing

[spare tinsel]

its one of Odysseus' crew members which were turned into Pigs by her

The Enchantress arcana card actually shows her turning several people into pigs aswell

[spark vessel]

Ok I can't decide on this one

||Dionysus|| Or ||hammer||

[remote locust]

||Hammer|| 100%

[hearty timber]

Oh man, Circe is a master gaslighter ngl

[remote locust]

Unless your build is already "complete" maybe

[spark vessel]

On the staff

[spark vessel]

Bro I'm getting cooked I'm far from complete

[glad geode]

quick question, how does back burner interract with the moros torch explosions, like i assume i can just try and position my omega special bnehind enemies to trigger backstabs with the explosions?

[crude dragon]

Dio

You can get the hammer again, you can't get the drunk again

[hearty timber]

They nerfed strength 😭

[spark vessel]

True

[crude dragon]

Yeah, back in Unseen

[remote locust]

Well, uh, hmm it being staff does change things I think. I personally feel like most hammers for staff are less impactful on your build

If you're really hurting now, I think Dio is a bit better odds to get something that could help turn things around

[hearty timber]

I've been running strength with jeweled pom , so good

[spark vessel]

Alright Dio didn't have me anything health related it's so over

Grape juice it is I guess

[fathom lake]

I can think of a joke here

[remote locust]

Chaos' Inferno-Bombs-on-death curse on an Oceanus room with swarming fish:
https://tenor.com/view/white-light-death-smiling-died-with-a-smile-final-fantasy_xiv-gif-25336896

[crude dragon]

Grape juice do be rather funny

[spark vessel]

That was mistake

Could this run get any worse

[devout cairn]

probably

[tropic monolith]

only if you're running axe and get the hammer that turns your attack chain into just one big smash

[spark vessel]

||LADY ATHENA SAVE ME||

[tropic monolith]

Oh

Icarus could show up in a room with those big robot sentries

He takes at least two attempts to kill them and wow do they swarm in his encounter

[wheat needle]

wait, why does the wiki show that the arcana cards can be upgraded further?

[devout cairn]

Circe's incantation can upgrade them further for that particular run

[wheat needle]

ohh, forgot that since well I NEVER SEE CIRCE IN MY RUNS

[devout cairn]

that happens

[crude dragon]

Rank 4 pig will also pull cards at rank 4

[still dagger]

anyway to guarantee medea to spawn?

[spark vessel]

||I bonded with gale so this run wasn't a total waste afterall||

[crude dragon]

Nope. Suffer

[spark vessel]

But my god in already at taking 18% more damage now

[still dagger]

ok. I'll just undo night and change my weapon each time

[spare tinsel]

with a mod you can

[wheat needle]

could just keep resetting the run

as in dying during the run if you dont see medea in the start

[still dagger]

nexusmods?

[spare tinsel]

use r2modman, the mod is called PonyAO

[tranquil wren]

ahhhh they need to bump up the chance to meet narcissus

[still dagger]

i suppose trhat's better than resetting the run

guess r2modman is the new mod hub. first time I heard of it was during ror2. have people stopped using nexusmods?

[spare tinsel]

it reworks Ephyra to instead have every single room in the hub open, 6 random rooms are selected to have the pylons in them which are marked for you, when you take extra rooms it spawns extra enemies from Tartarus to make it more difficult

which also means Medea is always available

[spare tinsel]

the mods hosted on nexus are just, not that great, installation is jank and has a high liklihood to cause file corruption issues. r2modman just, doesnt have any of those issues for Hades2

[still dagger]

is r2modman the same as thunderstore.io?

[spare tinsel]

Thunderstore is just r2modman but with ads

i recomend just downloading r2modman itself

[still dagger]

always interesting to see what kind of mods people will think of. tipping charon seems like a fun idea, but not sure what that's supposed to do

[spare tinsel]

lets you dump extra money into charon so that you can get the rewards cards things

that way no money goes to waste during a run

[uneven gulch]

yeah, some runs I have a lot of money left over but can't spend it because I don't buy anvils and you can't buy food at full health

in such runs it would be nice to just give charon the money so I can at least get more credit cards

[tropic monolith]

you could get way too many cards that way haha

[uneven gulch]

true

[bronze marlin]

yep. one was to activate it in tartarus, if you use that one multiple times you get a well in every region (underworld)

[tropic monolith]

sometimes I have 4k gold at the end because I went overboard >.>

[uneven gulch]

there will probably be some unhinged modded bosses

[bronze marlin]

speaking of which. just had a fun run where I sold natural selection twice and got it a third time hah

[uneven gulch]

silksong got an unhinged modded boss mere weeks after the game initially released

[smoky rover]

ah, then I have them all. anything else?

[spark vessel]

IVE ACTUALLY DONE IT , WITH THIS STUPID KEEPSAKE I ACTUALLY DONE IT PHEWWWWW

Good thing I only had 4 fears but like taking 25% more damage was not cool at all

Eris I hate you so much

[bronze marlin]

if you have that one, I'm out of ideas.

[grave lily]

i just encountered a bug where i can go out of bound in a hades 2 summit room. where do i report it?

[smoky rover]

I've been out of ideas for a long time...

[spark vessel]

||finally got the entropy||

Actually no , thank you eris , you garbage keepsake made this victory much more exciting

[uneven gulch]

press f10 to report bugs ingame

[grave lily]

thanks! doing it rn

[naive torrent]

Is there dialogue if you beat the game with no boons?

[still dagger]

...is that possible?

[uneven gulch]

use moon beam to start with a hex instead of a boon and if you're forced to take a boon, purge it at the start of the next region

[bronze stream]

||do the asphodel sequences still happen in post game, and if so how do they explain it?||

[bronze stream]

Yeah there is

[devout cairn]

The flow of time itself is convoluted; with Titans phasing in and out

timetravel bs

[bronze stream]

Do they say that though

[devout cairn]

nah i was quoting dark souls but that's the idea

[bronze stream]

I mean do they bother to change the dialogue on that part or not

[bronze marlin]

||so I have 17 pages + 1 incantation. if you have that too, you should have it all. so 86 incantations total and I can sell every resource without having a "you need this later" marker next to it||

[devout cairn]

Mel says something like "This can still happen?" and I think she mentions it to another NPC iirc

i'm paraphrasing

[bronze stream]

||yeah but does a Bad Chronos taunt you through a time tunnel or w/e or does he not talk||

[devout cairn]

and || yes it's still chronos||

|| but since those chronos don't know they are in some weird time split dimension they act as it's normal ||

[smoky rover]

I have only 17 pages... this'll take a while to check

[grizzled trench]

man i dont know why they kept the asphodel bs in the game after TE

NOBODY enjoys being warped to asphodel guys 😭

[wicked umbra]

Anybody knows how to unlock "Seek to know he who labors for the gods"?

[devout cairn]

I don't like them that much either but eh

[smoky rover]

Heracles?

[wicked umbra]

it's not Heracles as far as I know
And I maxed out everyone except Hecate who is not opening up fully yet

[devout cairn]

it is heracles, but no one is sure how exactly you do it lol

[teal zephyr]

It's Heracles

[spark vessel]

30 grasp yeppers

[wicked umbra]

So he is both "he who rebels" and "he who labors"?

[teal zephyr]

Rebels is Prometheus

[devout cairn]

rebels is prom, labors is heracles

[wicked umbra]

oh, ok, that's strange but might explain it
Do I have to activate rivals for Heracles then or without?

[devout cairn]

you know, the 12 labours of heracles and all that

[devout cairn]

i thought you needed to but i've seen some people say they never activated it? it seems hazy

I activated and beat rivals 3 and then it unlocked it

so there's my anecdotal evidence

[robust jungle]

not sure what i am missing. when i go to the broker, it keeps showing only shaderot and iron as a needed resource. I have gotten to the epilogue. was not sure if its just bugged or if i am still missing some incantation.

[smoky rover]

do people read the codex? it says "prove your worth on a fearful night". I presume it's rivals, but I did it a long time ago

[smoky rover]

To be very helpful, I don't know either lol

[wicked umbra]

That's for maxing out bond with Heracles
But not unlocking "he who labors"

[devout cairn]

I still have no idea what that means because I already beat him multiple times on rivals 3 and the bond is still locked, but that doesn't matter because it's not required for epilogue

[wicked umbra]

huh? that's strange

[smoky rover]

I thought "seek to know" means deepening the relationship?

[twin rivet]

Bruh
||Eradicating Typhon|| has such a lame animation

[teal zephyr]

He needs to acknowledge it when you talk to him in ephyra encounters or somewhere else I think

[devout cairn]

nope, atleast not for him

[smoky rover]

or in the case of prometheus, just chatting with him

[devout cairn]

encountered him multiple times, with rivals 3 on and without it on, most of the time he just says "see you on olympus for the fight"

[teal zephyr]

Yeah I dunno unfortunately

My guess is either beating him in rivals 3 is needed, or rivals 3 and a certain fear threshold, cuz "frightful night"

[wicked umbra]

those conditions are weird

[devout cairn]

but yeah you don't need to unlock Heracles' bond to complete the Fates's quest

[wicked umbra]

I unlocked his full bond by rival 3

[gusty grotto]

is it me or vow of rivals 3rd boss of surface so damn unfair

[devout cairn]

you'd think it would be enough with 24 fear

[teal zephyr]

But I'm pretty sure the hearts unlocked eventually in an encouter in either ephyra or olympus

[wicked umbra]

oh you have not seen rival 4 then yet

[gusty grotto]

lol yeah

[teal zephyr]

Absolutely it should be, I don't think supergiant is expecting the average player to dabble into higher fears

[wicked umbra]

I got all statues but it was such a nightmare task

[gusty grotto]

im scared

[devout cairn]

it's one of the easier rivals, kill heracles first for an easy second memory game, also he's very slow and is most of the time just spinning blindly across the room trying to hit idk what

[wicked umbra]

you better be

[gusty grotto]

oh right, i forgot that i was playing on frenzy level 2 to get used to it, i should disable it

[tropic monolith]

I strongly recommend the other way, ||Heracles can't stick to you so ignore him and just do Prometheus like normal, then finish Heracles from nearly full||

pretend he's just a particularly muscle bound bird

[novel turtle]

Is there a reason to gift to Nyx?

[slow comet]

is ||nyx|| this game's version of bouldy in that shes a nectar sack that gives small bonuses?

[jaunty basin]

dialogue

[tropic monolith]

funsies

[devout cairn]

my entire gameplan revolves around the memory game cuz i'm bad at that but this works too if you are not memory challenged

[teal zephyr]

Idk but I gifted her a couple times

[novel turtle]

same braincell

[tropic monolith]

the memory game gets much easier if each time it warns you, say out loud the safe spot

[jaunty basin]

no

[stone maple]

Hades 1 has the Infernal Arms
Hades 2 has the Nocturnal Arms
Elden Ring has "The Sword of Night and Flame" so if that came to greece, would that not count as both an infernal and nocturnal arm?

[slow comet]

why is that an option then D:

[tropic monolith]

||she gives it back||

[devout cairn]

i do that, heracles being there just distracts me too much. No big deal though I don't think the fight is hard

[slow comet]

yeah and youre using an aspect of cheeselord

[tropic monolith]

hum

Just autopilot dodging back and forth avoids him so easy though 😛

[slow comet]

on patch 1.0 that is

[jaunty basin]

it would count as, in Hephaestus terms, "piss-poor craftsmanship"

[novel turtle]

My roommates love hearing me with my controller and saying outloud top, middle, bottom etc lmao

[tropic monolith]

I just always found if I tried to target ||Heracles|| first, then Prommy would keep nailing me out of nowhere

[stone maple]

i mean yeah, but Hephaestus has a very high standard due to his very high skill, and he could probably improve it by simply spitting on it.

Hephaestus would look at the Mastersword and call it "pretty decent for some backwater kingdom"

[jaunty basin]

he could also improve it by taking an actually good eldenring weapon instead

[stone maple]

i mean, with some weapons in that game it's pretty obvious they are not made for the player

[wicked umbra]

who else here misses when the axe had the block ability?

[jaunty basin]

Definitely dont

[wicked umbra]

😔

[merry whale]

prob better than however the hell coat blocking works

[stone maple]

coat can block?

[proven lily]

coat slander is always appropriate, so the block should go on a real weapon

[merry whale]

legit i never feel incentivized to learn to block even with that weird ass hammer

[naive torrent]

What cast and familiar is best with aspect of circe?

[granite wigeon]

i just got the third statue, what is it even holding, is it a head? whos heade is it

[wispy storm]

Hey does removing silken sash get rid of all the armor it acrued?

[wicked umbra]

Schelenemnon

[granite wigeon]

ig it does look a little like him

[wispy storm]

They all have their uses honestly but some more than others, some use toula because when active she's always near an enemy but not necessarily the one you're targetting (crowd clear), and gale tails behind you pretty effectively in case you want to go for getting the same enemy in the overlap of both rings

I'm currently doing a gimmicky engagement ring circe aspect run with Hecuba, who also stays near enemies, or at least tries her best to

[tranquil wren]

no

[wispy storm]

does it get rid of any of the armor it acrued?

[tranquil wren]

no

[wispy storm]

must be memory of a previous patch then (thanks for letting me know!)

[granite wigeon]

yoo what odessey guy walked over to the plants, first time ive seen that

[tranquil wren]

the walking technology goes crazy

[wispy storm]

-# imagine your most famous story being named after you and people still refer to you as like "the guy from Steve"

[granite wigeon]

hmm maybe heph is a good god for the morgning knife

[wicked umbra]

LOL
Just won an encounter by being afk

[swift perch]

Nice :D got that on video?

[granite wigeon]

i change my mind on morgning feeling bad to play also, pretty fun on bosses

maybe blood triad isnt wroth using on groups lol

[wicked umbra]

I wish
I didn't even plan to xD

I tried to die in fact
So I can increase my encounters with Heracles

[swift perch]

Is there a proper way of getting all godsent powers (for prophecy)? I'm getting the same 2 - 3 every time; it's been about 70 nights.

[slow comet]

is infernal contract only offered once per run

[swift perch]

are you on steam? use steam's game recording in background :]

[coarse portal]

Yes. And only at midshops.

[tranquil wren]

I think it can be offered multiple times per run, but you can only take it once

[wicked umbra]

not really into making recordings
I am trying to reach the epilogue
But "he who labors for the gods" is so hard to get

[coarse portal]

I have not experienced this yet. When I don't take it on an earlier biome it does not appear on the next mid shop.

[tranquil wren]

could just be unlucky. but yeah idk

[coarse portal]

Just keep encountering Hercales I guess? With rivals 3 you get to talk to him a lot.

[tranquil wren]

afaik the dialogue only pops in ephyra. and for me it only worked without vow of rivals

[coarse portal]

I see. Then maybe you need to gift him more?

[tranquil wren]

yea probably, but at least you don't need to max his relationship

[wicked umbra]

I actually realised the opposite
With rivals 3 it's even less

[wicked umbra]

already maxed him D:

[wispy storm]

i dont thing rivals effects heracles chances as far as im aware

[tranquil wren]

yea I meant more for his dialogue rather than chances. but the requirements for some of the quests in this game could be explained a bit more

it is a lot more confusing than H1

[elfin heron]

does dashing apply sprint boons

[coarse portal]

Just keep going to the surface? haha. It just happened for me around my 80-90 run.

[wicked umbra]

I thought I'd FINALLY get that darn requirement for the epilogue but it's just not popping up
HERACLES
WHY DO YOU DISLIKE ME SO MUCH

[tranquil wren]

at least it's only one dialogue from him you need

[stone maple]

aaaaaaaaaaaa Crystal Figurine just gave me The Queen and Judgement at the same time and idk that feels so
like mom and dad are with me on my way up y'know? feels so story coded, it was so cool to draw those 2.

[wicked umbra]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[wispy storm]

As far as I'm aware most only apply to the Sprint, a couple exceptions only apply to the Dash (The boons specify with the relevant keyword)

[twin rivet]

Can Athena not appear in Tartarus?????

[wispy storm]

Actually Zeus's says 'Rushing' is Rushing the 'Special__s__' of Dash/Sprint?

[teal zephyr]

She should if you have 0 dd and take the keepsake

[tropic monolith]

or the heph +armor for the first 7 seconds maybe?

[twin rivet]

Or does the keepsake only work if you had no DD's before you equipped it

[vapid igloo]

she can

[wispy storm]

It works if you lose the last of it after, but I'm pretty sure it needs to be a multi-phase encounter, and then the game rolls a chance (afaik)

[twin rivet]

What the hell bruh I'm getting scammed out of Renewed faith

[spark vessel]

Going for the true ending tomorrow

I don't wanna believe in all the mean things people say about the true ending, it can't be that bad man

[vapid igloo]

i know i had a run were the leaf didn't trigger all three times

[novel turtle]

hold up, is Eris a romance option???

[spare tinsel]

yuh

[twin rivet]

I GOT SCAMMED WTF

[spare tinsel]

yeah its still a bit rng, sometimes you get scammed

[novel turtle]

I just unlocked that half lmao, Melinoe is just collecting Nyx's children at this point

[vapid igloo]

is there a way to get a different ending? Cause seem like the only one is Cronus re thinks things

[tranquil wren]

by true ending you mean epilogue?

[atomic river]

it says she may appear not that she wil

[spare tinsel]

theres an Epilogue ending for when you complete a certain thing on the fated list

[twin rivet]

I swear it was a 100% chance

[vapid igloo]

Ah that mist be what the ment by true then

[twin rivet]

Time for Chronos with only 4p HP and 15 armor I guess

[wicked umbra]

FINALLY
I GOT THE REQUIREMENT

[atomic river]

i mean for me she always shows up

[novel turtle]

also I need ||Dora to stop having a crisis after remembering because I want to decorate||

[vapid igloo]

Hades 3 in Persian, Mesopotamia or Egyptian Underworld?

[spark vessel]

Idk , I just know that I finally eradicated the TY

So chronoss's end is next I think

[atomic river]

how would it be hades then

[spark vessel]

It wouldn't

[atomic river]

if they do i hope its norse

[vapid igloo]

Cause Hades got lost getting milk

[wicked umbra]

oh my gods, I can locate the three fates now
But the requirement is kinda wow

[vapid igloo]

and your playing him

[hasty ocean]

Pluto, it's just Hades but all the characters have Roman names

[tranquil wren]

you're going for the basic ending then. good luck! I personally enjoyed it a lot

[wicked umbra]

Gigantomachy with Macaria sounds doable

[twin rivet]

I am so fricking pissed man wtf

[hasty ocean]

This is just God of War

[wicked umbra]

And Skelly becoming Schelanemnon to guide us

[vapid igloo]

Norse is to far away for my liking

[atomic river]

it would attract the most people

[vapid igloo]

I suppose it the most pop culture of them

[tranquil wren]

I truly hope skelly is not agamemnon

[wicked umbra]

lol, definitely not

[tranquil wren]

what's a relatively scandal-free greek hero he could possibly be?

[wispy storm]

bit of a shame there doesnt seem to be a line acnowledging the hecuba cerberus look, unless something just took priority over it here

[jagged mirage]

yo quick question abt chronos in hades 2, ||what happens when you interact with the yellow thing where his throne was after he dies? not the item he drops||

[tranquil wren]

nothing, mel just makes a comment on it

(it's meant to be ||chronos reforming|| basically)

[jagged mirage]

so it won't take me back to spawn right

[tranquil wren]

nope

[humble urchin]

nope, going into the chambers on the right is what does it

[jagged mirage]

aah ty

[pine mesa]

is there any way to stop the game from wiping my forget-me-nots at the end of my run? It's really annoying

[twin rivet]

I've literally never had a time where Athena didn't appear at all
Is it somehow because I used Toula and only lost the DD 3 rooms in?

[twin rivet]

It's supposed to work like that, if you mean the boon tracking

[pine mesa]

Yeah i know, i just don't understand why :(

[vapid igloo]

Alternative do Japanese Underworld playing Izanami trying to get to hee Husband cause she is pissed about being abandoned

[humble urchin]

forget me nots for boons don’t persist through runs, forget me nots for items/incantations do

[twin rivet]

Because you normally don't do a run where you want the same things twice in a row

[vapid igloo]

heck doesn't even need to Hades just sometimes with that as the plot sounds cool

[spark vessel]

Ok ... So what you think of actual true ending?

[pine mesa]

Yeah yeah i get why it could be useful to wipe it, but i don't get why there's no option not to. It makes completing the last few duo and legendary boons so much more annoying

[vapid igloo]

man now i wish we got Izanami as a weapon aspect.

[nimble inlet]

Weathering all storms

[nimble inlet]

I think it makes sense

[novel turtle]

how on earth does aspect of sheva work

[outer cradle]

VoR 4 goes crazy on Chronos holy

[wicked umbra]

OH MY GAWD
I GOT TO THE THREE FATES
Their designs are AWESOME

[nimble inlet]

🥀

[crimson spindle]

guys is dagger hidden aspect bugged? im spamming artemis on surface and she doesnt give me the waking phrase

[nimble inlet]

I still didn’t understand how to, I used moros׳s keepsake 3 times in Oceanus

[nimble inlet]

Boom boom charge kabooom

[wicked umbra]

You have to use it three times in a row in three chambers in a row
And at the fourth one, you die

[nimble inlet]

K

[novel turtle]

Special, Special, Attack?

[nimble inlet]

Very specific, anyways will I get straight to them?

[wicked umbra]

oh they sound like ||Scylla||

the youngest at least

[atomic river]

guys my arachne dres is at 29 and i just entered tartarus

[nimble inlet]

Well each time a special hits the ground and you’re in it (omega special I’m pretty sure) you charge 1 power thingy for the omega attack, max is 12 i think or 6 Ik not sure and each omega special gives you 3 if you’re in it the all time, there’s also an hammer that gives it 3 more levels or something

[nimble inlet]

Nice

[wicked umbra]

achievement almost, huh?

[atomic river]

yea and i can use arachnes keepsake too so now i got 80

yay i got it

[slow comet]

@odd crag no

[frozen sandal]

Apollo Lunar ray with the triple beam is so fun. Just make sure to save the last godsent charge for the bosses final stage so they aren't impervious to it all.

[spark vessel]

Do all keepsake effects stay after you change them or it's just Eris that wants to FW me ?

[spare tinsel]

if the keepsake says "this night" then it will stay with you after swapping

[spark vessel]

Ah that makes sense

[red sand]

so I ||told arachne hecate knows who cursed her, but hecate is not meeting her in erebus and she's not coming to crossroads, do i just need to keep trying or do i need to do sth else?||

[spare tinsel]

keep trying

[nimble inlet]

Keep playing

I think she says she’s ready the next time you meet her and then you’ll see her in the crossroads when the run ends

[atomic river]

yo how do i not have the denizens of the depths achivement? ive caught all three types of fish in every biome to get the max bond for posiden

[regal gorge]

I'm a little lost on how to trigger things now. ||I have End to Dumbest Slumber but cant find soot, I keep winning runs but nothing much is happening. Who should I focus first? Zag or Olympus? ||

[spare tinsel]

spoiler answer for soot: ||just gotta talk to Hades in Tartarus a few times to get it.||

[red sand]

lmao got it right after the message

[nimble inlet]

It is written it can be found somewhere in the house of hades I haven’t gotten it too yet but I think it’s through plot

[nimble inlet]

Nice

[nimble inlet]

Oh he explained it

[elfin heron]

#h2-victory-boasting message
wtf just happen?

[little frost]

sometimes the timer is merciful

[plush bough]

I hope hades 2 get tga for this year 🙏

[nimble inlet]

Same, same

[tranquil wren]

it's also very good. I especially liked talking to hecate and prometheus afterwards

[vital pine]

Alright, am I missing something? (Melinoe, Remember Us prophecy) ||I had the conversation with Moros, and the single item in the prophecy is checked off, but it won't let me collect the nightmare and it still hasn't given me any in game idea how to find the fates? (Not asking about the method, I got spoiled for that already, but I don't want to meta and I do want the nightmare lol)||

[coral echo]

do you need to use all the uses of the calling card while you have it? or does it last the entire night like the description implies

[tranquil wren]

you can switch and still rarify

[coral echo]

cool

[nimble inlet]

What’s the calling card?

[tranquil wren]

post ending keepsake

from (big spoiler) killing ||zagreus twice||

[nimble inlet]

Oh maybe I didn’t get it yet, I ended the main plot line and straight away went on vacation

[strange berry]

What are your best gods for Momus staff guys? 🤔

[nimble inlet]

Wouldn’t spoil it for myself

Tho I’m afraid I know

[nimble inlet]

Hera maybe?

[simple sierra]

what are ppls "biggest change" boon x weapon combo? for me it's hera attack on anubis. Changes the game

[high steeple]

Just beat Nemesis to another room hehe
Mel says „no, you don‘t“ hehehe

[plush bough]

Any character we can have six with?

[nimble inlet]

Hehe (I’m tired of trying to get the gif work)

[nimble inlet]

||Moros, Icarus, Nemesis and Eris||

[plush bough]

Eris?

Nooooooooo😭😭

[coral echo]

does the jeweled pom last the entire time you are at fates whim? or do you need to have it equipped for it to take effect?

[buoyant matrix]

entire time

[coral echo]

gamer

[light thicket]

So i pretty much finished the game, missing 1 achievement (great chaos below), but my recycling service is missing like almost 3 pages of items, how can i know what enchantments am i missing?

[inland raft]

fairly sure a lot of things just can't be recycled

although on that note, kinda confused why i still have moly listed as a resource i shouldn't recycle. i've bought all cosmetics and finished all achievements, and incantations etc. as far as i'm aware. so presumably there's just some cosmetic lying around that i don't have access to for whatever reason

[light thicket]

ohh cosmetics are also take into consideration in this calculation... that might be it

[inland raft]

aah i misunderstood what you meant

[pastel lava]

can someone give me a small hint how to progress further without spoiling im assuimg doing the 'Melinoe, seek us' phropesy is to progress the story more but ive been stuck at having done task nummber 2,3,4 and ive done atleast 15 winning runs and havent gotten progress on any of the other ones?

[final token]

Wait until a special dialogue with Moros only if you have completed most of the game, and by most i speak of almost all the game

[pastel lava]

i have done most of the game ive beaten both the surfface and bellow on max rivals so ive done atleast 20 winning runs for each

and im almsot full hearts with moros into the romance tree

and what of the other 2 ppl i need to "seek" i can assume who they are but i havent gotten the dialoge needed

[limpid stream]

Tips for ||Prometheus’ memory game?|| I can’t burning death defies

[inland raft]

say the safe zones out loud to yourself as they appear and repeat them. stand ready in the first safe zone

[left elm]

taking boons that increase sprint speed (ex. apollo rush) can help a lot
you can also try to memorize the timing between each flame, and dash right at the start & end of the time in between to maximize distance
also most patterns you can stay in just 2 zones and ignore another one

[limpid stream]

I try doing that but I suffer from a severe case of skill issue 💀

The skull is me because he kills me

[left elm]

unrelated but just discovered that paid dues comes before security system... blasted

[devout cairn]

You can pause the game if you are willing to

[limpid stream]

True

I paused the game because my hands were getting numb in the Kronos fight and ||Kronos yelled at me for it ||

[inland raft]

he used to unpause you for doing it

[devout cairn]

That's his thing yeah

[atomic river]

i thought he still does if you dont have the encantation

[devout cairn]

|| only for rivals fight ||

[left elm]

^ same

when was that changed lol

[limpid stream]

I don’t have the incantation because I never use Selene so there’s no point

[left elm]

.?

[limpid stream]

Selene is one of two gate rewards I will reroll

[left elm]

sorry how does selene relate to incantations lol

[limpid stream]

Both the boons the incantation mentioned are Selene ones

[inland raft]

selene has one of the few slowdowns in the game

[devout cairn]

there's an incantation for time slowing Hex, there's also one that || allows you to pause during the rivals fight, he still doesn't let you, atleast in rivals typhon ||

[inland raft]

alongside eternity

[left elm]

just use demeter

[limpid stream]

Oh I didn’t know it affected a boon from a useful god /lh

[wicked umbra]

Holy mother of god
I reached the epilogue
My jaw is dropped

[spark vessel]

I can't wait to get there myself

[wicked umbra]

I lost my marbles
I did NOT expect that ending

[minor stirrup]

The prophecy that says to clear ||two random chaos trials successively||, does it mean I need to ||clear a random chaos trial for two nights in a row||? Or is that a typo and it's meant to say 'successfully'?

[pastel lava]

could you confirm for me cuz i feel like im stuck not getting to the epilogue do you have to do the Melinoë, Seek Us prophecy to get there?

[tranquil wren]

has to be either chaos below or chaos above. can also be two great chaos below/above trials successively, but it's easier to do the regular ones

[wicked umbra]

yes

[tranquil wren]

like for example I did great chaos below and then chaos below

[minor stirrup]

Two nights in a row, though?

[pastel lava]

oke ty il keep spamming the last ppl i need hoping for the dialogue i need x)

[tranquil wren]

um I'm not sure. I don't think it would matter, but just to be safe it's better to do it in a row

[spark vessel]

How many attempts did it take you ?

[wicked umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

257?

[spark vessel]

[wicked umbra]

granted, I also did every other achievement possible
Like the 3 statues
so it took longer

[limpid stream]

Can I force the game to run a different seed? I wanna try a specific boon

[winter mirage]

Does Rivals 3 need to be off to be able to gift ||Heracles|| to finish the Seek Us prophecy?

[tranquil wren]

there is an incantation called acceptance of another fate, but it's a lategame one

[pulsar pier]

What is the best god for medea?

[tranquil wren]

I think you need 7 zodiac sand and 5 void lens. there's probably more hidden requirements as well

[frank ermine]

Zeus?

[bleak scarab]

zeus on special

[frank ermine]

Yep

It’s insane

[bleak scarab]

a bit busted, yeah

also you want probably hitch on regular attacks

[wicked umbra]

I GOT ALL TROPHIES NOW
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[bleak scarab]

to proc origination

[frank ermine]

Exactly that

Any % attack works though

[bleak scarab]

i think hitch is probably the best effect, but any curse will do

[frank ermine]

It’s ideal, yeah

[bleak scarab]

demeter's curse is also good if you're struggling to aim your specials

[frank ermine]

Medea is best on mouse and keyboard

Everything is best on mkb

Just started playing silksong today btw!!

[meager walrus]

controller medea is very comfy

[bleak scarab]

eh, i just don't enjoy games like this on mkb

[frank ermine]

I do

[meager walrus]

can just slide your fingers along the buttons and it does the combo perfectly

also there are very good players who play with mkb and very good players who play controller, it's ultimately just up to preference

[frank ermine]

True

But come on all max fear clears have been on mkb

[tidal cliff]

Got 2 chaos gates in a run and got chaos to the number 1 highest damage leaderboard

[meager walrus]

all 2

not a good sample

[jaunty night]

WAIT SCYLLA JUST COMPLAINED ||i turned off the music in settings|| LMAO

[winter mirage]

Does Rivals 3 need to be off to be able to gift ||Heracles|| to finish the Seek Us prophecy?

[jaunty night]

i love this game

[nimble inlet]

Fr, I need to try that too

[tranquil wren]

I turned it off and then it worked for me

[light thicket]

how many levels can i upgrade the crossroads? just raised to 3 stars, the cap is 3, 5 or 10?

[nimble inlet]

I’m only disturbed of how you found that out, who turns off the music in hades?

[jaunty night]

valid concern, im listening to music with friends in vc

[humble urchin]

3* but yeah

[nimble inlet]

Ohhh k

[hearty fog]

She's working on new vocals for another Scylla feature, cannot be bothered to fight you right now.

[waxen eagle]

did you or anyone else figure this out? I'm stuck with the exact same thing. I don't really want to romance moros and it seems insane if its required to get the epilogue. I've been stuck on this for at least 10 hours worth of gameplay, and now I'm doing suicide runs with 0 luck...

[tropic monolith]

not required

you get a chance to decline after it's offered, that should still progress things

[hollow lily]

i get a penalty for choosing the phial while having vow of scars on?

[waxen eagle]

Oh thank god someone with an answer

I just figured you couldn't walk it back after you passed the cupid arrow, but thats a relief, I will give him some juicey thank you!

[tropic monolith]

I'd note I haven't declined, but it gives the option and I can't see Supergiant forcing people to go into relationships like that they don't want

[storm glen]

no the phial healing is penalizes

[fleet stirrup]

How do I get to the epilogue?

[novel turtle]

Any tips for Trial of the Supreme? first one that's really kicking my butt

[waxen eagle]

Yeah, I really hope so. It's confusing and misleading if its telling you romance is optional, but you have to do it to get the ending...

[fervent silo]

This game seems easy, im gonna beat it without weapons

Dash spam + pos

[tropic monolith]

that one is terribly designed and they should be rethinking how Ares' gain works solely based on it

My tip is: Don't rely on the coat. Force heph with a trinket and try to push him down to a decent cooldown for attack or special and just cheese that way.

Or any similar approach, you've got some options since you can bring in whatever trinket you want.

If you want to do it "proper", push for Ares legendary because otherwise the gain is useless and then just hit and run with charging the coat attack but not trying to make use of its mechanic because it's so clunky

[tropic monolith]

the base game is easy, it's when you start stacking fear that things get exciting

[fervent silo]

There's kinda no reason to stack fear

[tropic monolith]

unless you want a challenge 😛

There's kinda no reason to beat the game without weapons

[meager walrus]

is supreme one of the standard "clear one biome with a specific aspect"?

because those all sort of blended together for me

[tropic monolith]

yeah but it gives you a terrible boon loadout for the aspect

it's the shiva coat + ares gain with hera on special and then you're starving for magick vs Prommy at the end

[meager walrus]

can you not just play it aspectless?
like coat can already be played as a generic button masher and work fine

[tropic monolith]

it has very few damage boosts so you can just play it base but it's ... ugh.

It forces you into using coat attack/omega attack honestly, the special setup is so weak in it

and you'll still run dry because Ares' gain is sooo bad when you're trying to focus on omega attack (block -> counter)

[meager walrus]

im pretty sure shiva's base moveset is not bad

[unique iris]

bond

[tropic monolith]

it is when your only magick recovery is ares' gain

[wintry mantle]

so i beat the game and im wondering ||who do i have to give nectar to in order to get trinkets for the endgame||

[lyric zenith]

That's a very vague question

[wintry mantle]

well i dont know man, i have three empty slots and i dont know who i have to go to fill out my trinket box

[novel turtle]

||dad, zag, grandpa||

[tropic monolith]

which slots? Tell us the count from the right or something

[tropic monolith]

probably these yeah

[novel turtle]

I'm guessing based on who I was missing lmao, I have yet to find ||zag|| though

[lyric zenith]

The number is empty slots is already more info that your first question

[wintry mantle]

thanks

[meager walrus]

oh wait i just loaded the trial up to check it and I see whats going on

[tropic monolith]

||He's like fighting Charon in Hades 1||

[meager walrus]

just play it mostly aspectless
shiva's standing attack is better than base coat and the game gives you attack speed and a hammer that gives +power on attack

[novel turtle]

[meager walrus]

let me try to run through it now to see how it feels

[novel turtle]

-# lowkey don't think I ever ended up beating charon lmao
But back to throwing myself at this Chaos trial so I can go back to having all the ones I've unlocked done

[tropic monolith]

yeah I'd never played coat in melee and you feel like you want to use shiva's aspect in the trial for it so the setup is ... really bad for that

[tropic monolith]

sadly (imo) ||zag is easier; but how you get to the fight with him is similar||

[novel turtle]

oh god I'm hitting the point where chaos is like "uh hey buddy, maybe take a break from this trial" BUT GOOD NEWS I just got a heroic heavy metal B)

[meager walrus]

i mean coat is a close range weapon most of the time and shiva's basic attack is actually better than base coat

its a weird build to give you but I can see what they're going for

[tropic monolith]

I've always just focused on omega special and it works great when not Shiva >.>

coat with burn on special + freezer burn triggered elsewhere pops big numbers fast

or even just burn on special + scorch deals damage faster works pretty well

[worldly sonnet]

finally finished basically everything there is to do in the game another 10/10 game from supergiant

[tropic monolith]

honestly I think they just need to rework Ares' plasma effects anyway and then sure whatever setup they want for the trial

[swift perch]

anyone else having trouble with that incantation which gives gemstones for vanquishing guardians? doesn't work for me anymore

[worldly sonnet]

would have been done a few days ago but icarus bond takes 1 million years for some reason

[tropic monolith]

you're using the selected weapon?

[worldly sonnet]

yeah you gotta use the bonus bones weapon i think

[meager walrus]

okay I just did the trial first try

[nocturne dagger]

Hades 3 co-op

[meager walrus]

it does feel harder than some of the other weapon trials but still doable

if you want to be super safe you can immediately go into the hestia/ares duo and then just play keep away with your cast

vs prometheus I used that a lot when it wasnt safe to hit

[novel turtle]

thank god. I just managed it

[tropic monolith]

it's only rated 3 eyes

That's my other problem with it 😛

I could redo it now easily

[meager walrus]

vs regular enemies it feels like the game wants you to do basic attack a lot, you get attack speed, have the hera/ares duo open immediately

can also take slow cooker immediately and have it be good

[novel turtle]

managed to get ares legendary too alongside some other good stuff

[meager walrus]

the game doesn't really give you good tools to omega spam but it gives you other tools that are strong

[light thicket]

why great trials don't increase improbable outcomes count

[meager walrus]

the +30% enemy hp is pretty annoying though, took me 6 minutes to clear whereas most trials go by a lot faster than that

[novel turtle]

yeah the dragon mini boss is what kept killing all my death defies originally because I kept trying to block and the armour was just so much I couldn't get to a stun lock point

[meager walrus]

do you know how to dodge that boss?

[tropic monolith]

I finally just shelled it to death across the nest

[novel turtle]

50/50 depends on the day lmao

[meager walrus]

if so worst case you can just play safe and use regular special + cast

its a very slow way to do the fight but its completely fine if you dont care about timer

[novel turtle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3585227957 the final build that won it thank god

[tropic monolith]

if you care about timer just run until you don't get the dragon, I'm pretty sure there's paths even in the trial that avoid it

[novel turtle]

now I can make more treats for Raki

[tropic monolith]

my biggest issue with it is the trial feels like "Here's a focus on a hidden aspect to learn how to use its unique features. Don't use any of them."

[light thicket]

actually, i'm looking through older messages and people say it's ||great trials, but wouldn't be normal random trials?||

[fleet stirrup]

how do I progress relationship with Chronos for the epilogue do I need surface or underworld clears?

[tropic monolith]

||one of each, then find him at the end of erebus||

[paper marsh]

is that the only thing u need to do for the epilogue?

[spark vessel]

I love that they gave melinoe a Kamehameha in this game it's pretty cool

[wispy storm]

there's a prophecy that tells you what you need to do

[paper marsh]

oh right forgot about that although its worded in riddles

[still dagger]

you guys know the boon from hephaestus that gives you 10 armor every match? I slept on that, I thought it was armor that only lasted the match

[bronze stream]

Man artemis dagger might not be great at higher fear or anything but it can get some decent damage with a good % attack boon to go with the crit damage

[tropic monolith]

I have a lot of fun with it honestly

[glass condor]

Ares attack boon + sweeping ambush goes hard

[fair void]

blitz attack on moms skull? does it work?

[bronze stream]

Im just not sure the cooldown on the riposte thing is really necessary? Single target focused weapons are just not that great in this game to begin with since they gutted Pan aspect

Hmm i need to learn how many poms it takes to get cooldown cap with heph attack/special/dash

[thorny adder]

Imagine permanent crit and a permanent block whenever you hold your Oattack

The cooldown is absolutely required

[lyric quartz]

Probably the most frustrating ones for epilogue are ||Herc and Prom||

[bronze stream]

No i mean you would still have one block per oattack charge

Maybe it could just be shorter cooldown

[thorny adder]

Really? I got those automatically when the prophecy finally popped up. If anything, ||Hecate|| was the worst

[thorny adder]

Yeah, but you can just put it back up by charging again…

Makes the game super trivial when you can simply just parry everything.

[bronze stream]

Youd be vulnerable between blocking one thing and the time it takes to release the oattack, play the animation and start charging again

[still dagger]

any specific boons are good on morrigan?

[lyric quartz]

||Herc is frustrating|| because it’s intentionally vague how fearful the night has to be

[thorny adder]

The cooldown is fine imo as is. Any shorter and you have permanent crits, and any longer is just bad

[thorny adder]

Iirc you just need to do ||Rivals 3||

[lyric quartz]

Aphro or Apollo attack are really fun on it, or Demeter IMO, since easiest combo is O Attack, special, attack

[thorny adder]

Big Attack, pretty much Zeus on special, and winner’s circle is a nice bonus

[bronze stream]

I dont think its very close to 'permanent crits' if you compare 15 sec to the time it takes to get 9 attacks out with the dagger

[lyric quartz]

Or O Attack, Attack, Special so it has time to proc twice for a big hit soon

[still dagger]

winner's circle? big attack?

[teal zephyr]

Special -> dash strike (hold to trigger o attack) -> o attack is the best most seamless one

[thorny adder]

The combo is usually Ospecial, attack special

[thorny adder]

Idk, I’m usually very conservative with my crits, so I usually do stretch it out over almost 15 seconds

Like, I pretty much only dash attack into Oattack

[bronze stream]

I think the really short range melee weapons deserve to be kinda silly against bosses

Its a massive limitation in this game

And phase change shields are a thing

[thorny adder]

Rivals Prom with knives is genuine pain

[lyric quartz]

Lmao yeah

I still haven’t done the 20F surface vow for knives because it’s like

[light thicket]

well gg, 100% the game but couldn't form a bond with icarus xD

[lyric quartz]

“Guh”

[thorny adder]

Any percent attack boon, winner’s circle gives you your cast as a combo option for the blood triad

[still dagger]

I used to try special, attack O special, but it felt too clunky, so I switched to special, attack O attack

[still dagger]

who does winner circle belong to?

[deep token]

I "finished" the game, saw the credits etc. but even after all these many hours I am still missing Danaid Dagger from the minor prophecy regarding the Wells of Charon... I always check and never see it offered.

Am I just unlucky?

[thorny adder]

Hermes. It lets your cast expire faster

[inland raft]

are you picking up special and attack boons early

[thorny adder]

Don’t have a boon for attack or special and you’ll get it eventually

[bronze stream]

Morrigan dagger highlights the issue pretty starkly, give the dagger a reasonable attack range and arc and suddenly its great

[inland raft]

it will only appear if you have no boons in at least one of the two slots

[thorny adder]

Mel blades get clowned on by Typhon. Can’t even use the backstab mechanic

[atomic river]

yo HOW do you dodge rivals scylla shell attack where she rushes you i swear bro

[paper marsh]

her hitbox is slightly ahead of her ive noticed its not fully accurate

[fleet stirrup]

I found him at the end of Erebus and it didn't complete the fated list goal

[teal zephyr]

She lights up as she is about to slam so dash then

[atomic river]

i do and she tracks me

[bronze stream]

I dont really count the mel weapons as comparable to the ones that cost nightmare to upgrade

[thorny adder]

Gotta keep talking to him until he mentions the Fates again (and you have to gift him stuff)

[bronze stream]

Pretty sure theyre deliberately 'beginner' versions of things

[inland raft]

i-frame it, or dodge opposite direction maybe, idk

[thorny adder]

Mel Staff is pretty up there, as is Mel Skull and Axe, so I wouldn’t quite count them out

[inland raft]

mel axe is its own unique playstyle too

[bronze stream]

Yeah i was about to mention mel staff since i did just watch boated's 67 fear clear

[little mason]

What smash, smash and smash harder

[inland raft]

yeah

[thorny adder]

Best Aspect for Big Chop

[inland raft]

as opposed to swish swish and swish faster. or 'just get lucid gain'.

[tropic monolith]

Takes multiple meetings to max out the relationship

[little mason]

Just git gud?

[thorny adder]

Mel Axe genuinely makes you play like it’s dark souls on the surface

[inland raft]

best trick to the axe, is that you can use the special to cancel out of the combo so you don't get stuck with chop

[thorny adder]

UW can be facetanked, but Olympus is not doable unless you dodge

Frinos and Mel Axe combined makes for a really funny early biome too

[little mason]

I can dash and chop to avoid attacks

[paper marsh]

how much hp does that give you

[little mason]

100

[fleet stirrup]

Is there a way to consistantly get heracles?

[little mason]

Pray?

[small shard]

What boons and hammers work well with Aspect of Mel Skull?

[stark gull]

what happens if I choose a fear level that doesn't give you a bounty/nightmare. Do I get anything extra for that

[hearty fog]

No, it's not like boss rewards in H1 where there's something for every point.

Though you do have the Fear statues (8, 16, and 32/24) again.

[stark gull]

Also, I've collected like 3-4 nightmare, why aren't they showing up as an item in the Broker's store?

[faint wren]

Hey, so I’m running into a problem with getting my hidden aspects. For some reason, I can only get three of them. I have the aspects of Shiva, Hel and Anubis, and I’ve tried talking to the characters associated with the other ones, but they’re not triggering. Does anyone have any helpful advice for this?

[still dagger]

is there some trick to quickly throw out an Omega special? Sometimes I end up throwing an omega special even though I tried for a normal special, and it's instant. I don't have any boons that do that

[delicate flame]

how many testaments in total? I have 48/48, will i get more

[unborn ridge]

nice try chronos, i know you do damage but i have like 12 moon waters left with max hp

keep pushing the stone, youre almost there old man

[viscid bear]

can't put images here but ||I finally completed the "melinoe, remember us" prophecy because its marked as yellow, but I can't claim the reward?||

[hasty ocean]

Gotta unlock all the other aspects and fully upgrade one of the non-Melinoe aspects.

It requiring non-Melinoe upgrades was a 1.0 change so not all the guides are caught up

[turbid gyro]

What happens if I force shutdown mid room?

[glass condor]

It might set ur run back all the way to the beginning

[tribal yew]

I wonder why so little people have the chaos challenges achievement

[tranquil wren]

send the image in a priv discord then right click and copy link. then paste the link here

[glass condor]

Atleast it did when i crashed

[turbid gyro]

might? So it might not?

[glass condor]

Try it and see 😁

[turbid gyro]

It is saying proceed to next room to safely quit D:

[tranquil wren]

so do that then

[glass condor]

Yes if u quit when it doesnt allow u might regret it

[tribal yew]

I mean so many of them are a lot easier than normal gameplay

[tranquil wren]

whole lot grindier though

[turbid gyro]

I took the pom double boon from Echo on Hephaestus attack boon that had 3 sec cd. It doubled my 5 poms to 10 and cd is now 2 secs -.-

[fair void]

hell yeah beat rival eris

i dont like the arena of this one

[hasty ocean]

Yeah Heph cooldowns are capped to 2s, 1.3s if you have the Poseidon+Heph duo

[tribal yew]

Yeah but it's needed for important resources

[turbid gyro]

Learn something everynight

[tranquil wren]

still doesn't make it not grindy

[nova oar]

The whole game is grindy, this shouldn't be a suprise

[viscid bear]

any builds to defeat ||zagreus?||

like he has so much health holy

[tranquil wren]

idk about that. it's only grindy to get 100% achievements. the story and epilogue itself is fine

[hasty ocean]

Whatever you can slap together by the region 1 or 2 midshop lol

His moveset isn't crazy, so just gotta learn it and whittle him down. Upgraded Morrigan blades probably have the best damage right out the gate

[viscid bear]

am, I did ~20-30 fear runs and couldnt complete some of the challenges, like the ||30 health oceanus one||

not saying they are hard but most of them are definitely not easier than basic gameplay

[still dagger]

I th ink I did the final thing with Eris, and uh....||I didn't expect for there to be literal sex in this game||

[civic jolt]

yay i finally cleared the surface.. I found the area 2 and 3 boss harder than the last one

[nova oar]

Any fear is going to be harder than base game

[tranquil wren]

I got lucky with that one with heph armour lol

[civic jolt]

i beat T the first time i made it to them

[viscid bear]

was talking about challenges being easier than base game, so I compared being able to complete ~20-30 fear runs but not being able to complete some challenges

also the ||olympus one with fel and hecate/zeus boons|| is a pain in the ass for damage as well but more manageable

[faint wren]

Ooooohhhhh that makes much more sense. I upgraded my mel aspects thinking that was enough. Okay thank you

[tribal yew]

Achievement only requires 20 challenges though and you can easily find 20 with broken build. And so far my best run is 20 fear. And I only did it with my best weapon so theoretically I would be less skilled than you

[bronze marlin]

random 20 fear with abysmal keepsake/arcana choices is definitely no joke. but yeah, gotta get that off the checklist guys/girls 😛