h2-discussion

[tired rose]

||zagreus fight is through charon right? am i just unlucky???||

[limpid oar]

Just turn on full pain and grit, what could go wrong

[limpid oar]

|| specifically in midshops ||

[tired rose]

like the requirement is seeing the credits and not the epilogue ||meaning finding the fates which i havent done||

[nova oar]

I'm not doing that

[teal zephyr]

Can be in midshop in Erebus, Oceanus, Thessaly or Olympus, ||it's similar to the Charon fight from H1||

[tired rose]

okay ill make sure i'm taking midshops

||i want that keepsake||

[limpid oar]

You'll need to get used to those eventually

[nova oar]

Once I get past 55 I might as well but I want to do that first before I go max

[limpid oar]

Then maybe turn on void, it's exactly 5 fear which is what you're missing for your 50

Arcana is a crutch anyway

[nova oar]

I can do 50 with ff but idk i need the health and origination

[humble urchin]

Void’s the easiest vow smh

[nova oar]

Yes lmao

[nova oar]

Don't wanna hear it

[humble urchin]

Vow of Void? more like Void my chances of winning

[crystal fossil]

whats the highest fear run so far

[nova oar]

67

[humble urchin]

there have been 3 clears so far at max fear, which is 67

[crystal fossil]

damn thats insane

[nova oar]

But yes ik i'm bad i've only done 45 twice and 50 once i'm getting better i promise

[crystal fossil]

wait does that include rivals 4

[limpid oar]

You can save a ton of resources if you don't buy any arcana in the first place. New players or those starting over shouldn't buy arcana and use void as free fear

[nova oar]

[humble urchin]

yep, every single vow turned up to the max

[crystal fossil]

i gotta see how they did this cuz thats some insane dedication

[nova oar]

First one was boated iirc, don't know who the others were

[crystal fossil]

dammit its medea

[limpid oar]

2 of the runs crutched on an OP keepsake and the easiest weapon yeah people who actually do 67f are insane

[humble urchin]

https://youtu.be/9NshCC7K91w?si=2o7Ueb51Gr53kq1x

https://youtu.be/_Q2BtV8NgaM?si=VyX7N02-3HdkSw9B

[limpid oar]

Boated and @forest girder clicked Mel staff

[humble urchin]

boated’s the first ever 67f clear on 1.0, Vytautuas was the 3rd clear, both using Mel Staff

[crystal fossil]

what does boated mean?

[teal zephyr]

it's a name

[limpid oar]

It's the guy's nickname

[crystal fossil]

Oh thats the name of the dude, i thought it was some term for something else

[humble urchin]

Foolish has a 1.0 67f clear on Medea but no video out as of right now

he also had the first ever 67(on patch 11) also on Medea

[crystal fossil]

im watching the medea one and i can already see really good mechanical skills

[humble urchin]

ah yeah that’s the one on patch 11 in early access

expect to see a lot of good mechanical skills, Foolish is one of if not the best Hades 2 player

[limpid oar]

If you wanna see some more mechanical skills, there are quite a few 62 clear videos out there

[humble urchin]

i heard that Coldshade fella has a few solid 62s

[crystal fossil]

i did get into the 40s in hades 1 heat which was tough and i can probably do 40+ here but its gonna take some time to learn. But its nice to see people already being done with max fear

[teal zephyr]

alright alright discord bot 🙄
Queen is really annoying to activate.... I think I'm skipping her on the ||fate's whim|| arcana setup

[crystal fossil]

i wonder if they balanced it so make it more doable since theres no vow which directly limits you to 1 choice

[limpid oar]

Would've been more of those if I stopped choking on Chronos 😔

[prisma monolith]

the invention of writing stuff down

[teal zephyr]

there was a neat website someone made back then to keep track of this stuff

[humble urchin]

yeah, pushing fear in h2 is much better than pushing heat in h1

Max fear is easier than max heat but it’s also much better because it doesn’t rely on RNG as much

[limpid oar]

Oh the thing you mentioned is still considered a spoiler in this channel i think

[humble urchin]

the bot autodeleted due to the swear word filter

[crystal fossil]

yea, rng for max fear would've been insanely annoying

[muted olive]

Isn’t it impossible to do
Absolute max heat

[teal zephyr]

Hmm I didn't think the phrase would be but I'll tag it just for safety

[humble urchin]

just don’t get hit smh

[limpid oar]

Yesterday I could've gotten a Nyx 62 but i just kept tanking EVERY scythe throw

[crystal fossil]

its possible on paper and its been done, its simply the rng which ruins your chances

[humble urchin]

it is possible in both games, just much more accessible(yet still extremely hard) in h2

[muted olive]

When i last looked it up noone had done it albeit its been years

[limpid oar]

Iirc the first 64 heat was done sometime last year?

[humble urchin]

yep, just double checked, august of last year

[muted olive]

Crazy

[humble urchin]

meanwhile we already have 3 1.0 max fear clears

just shows you how unfair max heat was with its RNG

[limpid oar]

Imo it shows that the new keepsakes are a biiiiit too strong

[crystal fossil]

the triple keepsakes are quite overpowered

[humble urchin]

that’s also fair, they definitely played a huge part in it

[plucky dew]

perfectly balanced idk what u mean

[limpid oar]

Maybe we should buff them, thoughts?

[crystal fossil]

i got my 32 fear run off it done with just ||pom||which is nice

[plucky dew]

hmm that might be a tad unbalanced

[humble urchin]

||chrolex can now turn chronos into money, skipping his boss fight entirely|| sounds like a fair buff IMO

lore explanation is ||you flexed so hard on him with your chrolex he just ceases to exist||

[dusk mirage]

Mel stole his chains and posted reels of it

Chronos dies as a result

[young basin]

man ||zagreus|| with almost no boons sucks but i feel like i always get it in region 1

[lyric quartz]

Max fear ultimate bravery would be ||only running Judgment at 63 Heat||

[humble urchin]

Judgment is frequently taken at 65 fear

[muted olive]

Just watched it absolutely crazy

[humble urchin]

i think there was 1 or 2 more recorded unseeded unmodded max heat clears too

[buoyant matrix]

2 years ago

first unmodded 64 win was angelic with zeus shield, a few months later a chinese player known as bai (not to be mistaken with baj) did it again with zeus shield, and a few months ago playad did it with rama

[crystal fossil]

earlier= more rewards fr

[teal zephyr]

||zag|| is really difficult, especially melee

[bronze marlin]

~180k and more.
as every run gives you like 1.5 to 2k kudos, it takes a while

[tranquil wren]

the only major complaint I have about H2 is the kudos. it's way too expensive for anything. you can only really buy one or two cosmetic items per run. you have to sell your entire life's savings of resources to build up even a meagre amount

[lyric quartz]

Huh, no kidding

[bronze marlin]

I kinda like that we unlock the decorations later. I remember wasting all my gems on decorations in hades 1 before getting the good upgrades on my first playthrough hah

[lyric quartz]

I have to wonder if ||ranking up with the silver sisters changes dialogue like it did with Hades||

[tranquil wren]

well the gems in H1 actually had use in Work Orders, but in H2 they're purely cosmetic

[bronze marlin]

||this isn't included in the 180k by the way. only the dora shops and music maker. not sure how much you need to max out the rank on top of that.||

[fringe pecan]

How do I unlock the animal buddies

cerberus seems to hate me so I need a different cool pet it seems

[bronze marlin]

I think hecate randomly talks about the pets after a few runs and gives you an incantation.
then you can get them in:
||toula is in tessaly first room
raki is in erebus fountain chamber
gale is in the last shop of olympus, can only get her after the 2 above
hecuba is in echo's room, need to have toula and raki as well||

[lyric quartz]

||ALOT||

[lyric quartz]

No joke but ||Cerberus being told to heel around Hecuba makes me laugh way harder than it should like my guy she’s a former queen of Troy||

[pulsar pier]

Whats the best way to use the twin blades (aspect and build)

[dusk mirage]

Morrigan and abuse your mouse

[pulsar pier]

No hidden aspects yet

[dusk mirage]

Dang

[mental forge]

I wasn’t here for h1s post launch stuff, are we getting post launch content?

[hearty fog]

Probably not, the only thing that happened post-H1 launch was bug fixes and minor balance changes.

[mental forge]

like yea the game feels complete but it’d still be really cool

[crystal fossil]

dude am i having a fever dream or was frosty veneer really op before. What did it do before does anyone remember?

[rigid fulcrum]

You don't need Raki to unlock Hecuba.

[mental forge]

I thought you needed the 3 base famillers to unlock hecates

[bronze marlin]

you sure? welp, thought that those 2 come way later.
I was wrong then!

[rigid fulcrum]

I'm 100% sure, I got Raki last on my file.

[dusk mirage]

I'm pretty sure it says somewhere that you need all 3 to get Hecate's familiars

[rigid fulcrum]

Surely no one would ever just assume that and put it online.

[pale pier]

Is it just me or does Hera's upper lip makeup or whatever looks like a mustache in her arcana card HAHAHA

[bronze marlin]

it was like that in EA, so understandable

[rigid fulcrum]

True, Early Access would also confuzzle information.

From what I remember, Hecate says that you've shown the ability to protect your familiars, so she's going to let you borrow hers.

So I assumed it had something to do with finishing runs with familiars equipped. I just never found Raki since I took ages to unlock the fountain room and then yet more time to notice Raki.

[bronze marlin]

finally got the last minor prophecy done...
the requirements for the special artemis boon that you can only get if you have a damaging selene boon, is preeeeeetty dumb I'd say.
not only do you need to take selene early, you also need to pick specific stuff AND get lucky with artemis.
would never happen naturally unless you use the selene coat.

[barren junco]

💀 oh so that's why I still have one missing on her prophecy

Is it same with circe? I am missing one there since forever too....

[bronze marlin]

could be

[hearty fog]

I'm realizing now that I could have just not done Medea's quest and kept Harm for the Afflicted out of the rotation.

I finished it like two days ago. Only just realizing that now. Man.

[barren junco]

Tbh I still don't know what finishing her quest does other than unlocking more hearts

[bronze marlin]

I mean... the special medea boon is fine I guess? not as good as infinite magick or enemies lose 50% armor, but it's OKAY

[hearty fog]

It's not 15% current HP in response for taking one of Mel's DDs, that's for sure.

[teal zephyr]

1.5k-2k on a generic run or are you considering optimal familiars and grave thirst?

[bronze marlin]

grave thirst + plant some seeds and sell everything. ||could get 250 more if you fight zag||

[teal zephyr]

Btw for the ranking system it's just kudos + boss drops right? So I can recycle everything else with a clear conscience

[dusk mirage]

Hay what's the ||gemstones that|| ||zag|| drops for?

[buoyant matrix]

kudos

[bronze marlin]

I really wish the random chaos trials would just give you normal resources + 100 gems... would be a more fun way to farm kudos. about the ranking system: no idea, I sure hope so!

[knotty wharf]

Hey guys, when unlocking the ||hidden aspects||, does leveling up the Aspect of Melinoe to 5 count, or do I have to level up one of the other two aspects?

[buoyant matrix]

spend 5 nightmare on the weapon

[rocky void]

Anybody else have problem with unlocking "Born to Win"?

[buoyant matrix]

you just have a lot of higher priority dialogue queued from chaos, gotta keep pushing at it

[rocky void]

I think i have exhausted most of it, since he only gives me one line dialogue

[buoyant matrix]

fyi you have to have the embryo keepsake equipped while talking

[rocky void]

I have Chaos maxed and have done many runs with the keepsake on and stil nothing

i dont know if there is another step i am missing

[velvet cave]

I’m not sure if this matters but is the embryo rank 3?

[buoyant matrix]

i don't think there's any other steps no

[rocky void]

yeah i have it rank 3, i am stumped for what else to try

[dull sage]

How do I unlock the denizens of the deep prophecy

[dusk mirage]

Wait till poseidon talks about fishing

[velvet cave]

Are the chaos gates in the first region? Also, I did this quest in the underworld, so if you’re doing surface maybe try there, though that part shouldn’t matter

[hearty fog]

Yes.

Chaos Gates can appear in every region of the Underworld and at least in Ephyra and on Olympus. Not sure if there are places in Thessaly or on the Summit where they can spawn.

[rocky void]

I do it in the underworld, and i have tried both in erebus and oceanus

[velvet cave]

I’m really out of ideas then. Maybe there’s some other quest that conflicts with this one until you beat it. I have no idea

The only other possible thing I can think of is I did this quest after beating the game. This is really reaching but maybe it’s post game exclusive? Idk if you’ve also rolled credits or not

[covert badge]

i wish ||chronos orb is still a thing post-ending, i wanna purge it with chrolex so so bad||

[rocky void]

I am also post game, i saw a reddit post about the prophecy being bugged 3 months ago. It is the last achievement i have to 100% it 🙁

[bronze marlin]

it is not bugged, but there are probably a lot of other conversations that take priority. I even needed to visit chaos multiple times with it equipped

[velvet cave]

Is it the Reddit thread that talks about having to change code to fix it? You could try that if you’re desperate

[bronze marlin]

||nyx also takes priority I would assume! she is there a lot post-credits||

[dusk trellis]

Anyone know what is required to unlock more plant plots incarnation? I have beaten the lower half boss many times and made it past the upper 3rd boss. I have unlocked all of my cards and maxed my grasp out. I have also completed 9 trials, yet I still only have 2 plots. I am on night 48, my previous game that was on night 34 already had 4 plots available.

[rocky void]

I was thinking that i maybe havent exhausted her dialogue if that has anything to do with it

[hexed steeple]

I asked this yesterday, and it’s still relevant today: how do I force a “SLICER” type armored enemy to spawn during a run?

It’s literally the ONLY THING holding me back from 100%ing this game.

[bronze marlin]

there are only a few enemies who can have this. the zombie houses in ephyra and the stationary thorn (?) spitting thingies in erebus

[hexed steeple]

and I’m getting close to the 450h mark in terms of total time logged, and I still have never fought one

[buoyant matrix]

you can't force it, run hordes3 fangs2 and pray

[hexed steeple]

I’ve done that six times in the last day

[buoyant matrix]

do more, it's a rare perk

[hexed steeple]

this is downright stupid

[buoyant matrix]

do you have oath salute

[hexed steeple]

it’s the only thing I have left to do, the final prophecy, everything - and I mean EVERYTHING - else is complete

[buoyant matrix]

if you don't see one in the first region of either route, undo night and salute the oath and try again

[bronze marlin]

this is supergiant telling us to always run with fangs 2 😛 it is FREE (it isn't but it's fun!)

[hexed steeple]

Done it all six times, ran a run, didn’t get it, reset the night and saluted, did it again, finished the run to reset the seed, repeat

So I’ve run the first stage twelve times and a full run six times

[buoyant matrix]

why finish a run?

just quit and reroll again

[hexed steeple]

does the reroll force a completely unique seed, or are there seed 1 / seed 2 that’s set

[buoyant matrix]

speedrun the first region over and over again with medea skull

[buoyant matrix]

it's unique every time

[hexed steeple]

because the first seed is always the same, I figured it was locked to a binary set

[buoyant matrix]

also the later rooms will always randomly generate anyway and that's the only place you can see said armored enemies

[hexed steeple]

oh that’s worth knowing, good, I can just run Erebus over and over

but yeah, it doesn’t matter what I use or what keepsake I take or anything, I never get the slicer type

ever, I even played full runs to see if they’d show up as part of the armored enemy brigade elsewhere

[buoyant matrix]

play medea skull and start with zeus keepsake for his special

[buoyant matrix]

nope, it's only two enemies that can spawn in the first region of both routes

[stoic urchin]

[bronze marlin]

by the time you have enough kudos, you have seen them too many times. just play the game with fangs 2.
resetting for this is just the most unfun way to get it

[hexed steeple]

I have literally everything else in the game

[buoyant matrix]

and hordes3 to increase enemy spawn count and maybe get it in earlier rooms

[hexed steeple]

already doing that the whole time

@buoyant matrix / @bronze marlin

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543091263507922955/1426218131201986581/IMG_2090.jpg?ex=68ea6ca4&is=68e91b24&hm=6ef21d1fc08969e013d9086754f630808cce13cbdb063c40d47e6950c6d47b18&

I mean everything lol

[bronze marlin]

all on one save? geeez then you are really unlucky with this!

[hexed steeple]

ikr

this is why I’m like “hey what do I have to do around here to get one damn enemy type to show up”

[buoyant matrix]

been running fangs just a little after i unlocked the oath and I've seen plenty of slicers 🤷‍♂️

[hexed steeple]

good for you, I guess

me, I’m stuck in better luck tomorrow

[bronze marlin]

hey we have the exact same amount of hours, nice. you beat me by 0.1

[outer cradle]

VoR 3 on Prometheus is INSANE. Somehow made it out with losing only 2 DDs.

[bronze marlin]

could deactivate the "enemies from next region" vow, if you really want to reset for this.
should increase the chance of tombstones

[wind heron]

psychic whirlwind is such an abomination man why is this even legal

[buoyant matrix]

wait until you learn about trick knives

also wtf is that username

[wind heron]

are you famliar with the hit roblox game cart ride into 17 pregnant hyenas?

[buoyant matrix]

no and i most DEFINITELY don't wish to

[lyric quartz]

At least ||You got Herc to talk to you and open up to Ambrosia||

That one took FOREVER to do

[rose canyon]

r/brandnewsentences

[hexed steeple]

I don’t have that active for this exact reason

[mossy kernel]

It’s so funny though. It’s such a hard carry on any run that the rest of your boons is either win more or pack filler

[hexed steeple]

Trick knives and reaper knives on Pan is still one of my go-to builds despite it never being allowed to be early early access levels of apocalyptic ever again lol

[wide vector]

Heyo, I'm kinda new, I just wanna ask if the effect of the blackened fleece stays on after you remove it?

[mint moon]

Hi guys, how important is boon rarity? A friend told me a common lvl2 boon = rare lvl1

[wide vector]

Can anyone answer pls :))

[hexed steeple]

I actually never take it for axe runs when melting shredder and rapid slash gives me better status effect application coverage and armor killing utility

[hexed steeple]

I don’t believe it does, but can’t check to be sure, patience is a virtue

[wide vector]

Naaawww

[mossy kernel]

Pan will forever live in our hearts tbh. Still a really good setup though, so fun

[wide vector]

I'mma just get the hammer then 🙁

[hexed steeple]

Boon rarity is really impactful, but it shouldn’t outright stop you from taking something you want to build your run around

[winged vector]

So I just beat the game a few days ago, and was wondering if there's any particular direction I should go towards in order to start pursuing the unresolved plot points, such as ||the missing fates and Hypnos still sleeping||? Is it just simply 'do more runs until someone says something to you' or is it more directed than that?

[vapid escarp]

like 20 run i'm trying to meet circé for a quest.. it's really starting to make me angry

[winged vector]

I'm used to just chasing after incantations in my cauldron but I appear to be out of those.

[cursive bane]

I have a simple yet important question: a normal reward door (ie bones) can reroll to a god door or only god doors can reroll to other gods doors?

[mint moon]

Thank you. Is there math behind it with a lower rarity but higher lvl vs higher rarity but lower lvl?

[vapid escarp]

minor reward will always remove to other minor reward , changing the door is useless

[cursive bane]

I asked another thing xD

[jaunty basin]

you cannot make a bone/ash/nectar door into a god door no

rewards are categorized as minor (bones ash nectar) and major (boon, pom, money, heart, magick, hammer)

[cursive bane]

so only god doors can roll in god doors? or hammer can as well?

[cursive bane]

this is what I needed ty!

[jaunty basin]

hammer money heart magick doors can become god doors and vice verse

[devout cairn]

what is up with the way this game pushes certain builds into you? I had 3 hestia(wanted the legendary) boons 1 apollo and then suddenly I got 5 ares options in a row, and out of 10 rerolls like 5 would roll me Ares 😭 Why is it like this?

[jaunty basin]

that is not pushing certain builds that's rng

[devout cairn]

i refuse to believe that, ares is a bum

[jaunty basin]

many many runs have a god show up early once or twice and then never again

[devout cairn]

get your sorry ahh boons out of here ares

[vapid escarp]

the rng is often cheated

if you change a door after gettint a boon there is a high change it turn into the last boon you got

[bronze marlin]

HP or magick "can" roll into a god. never reroll ashes or bones

[jaunty basin]

unless you're desperate for nectar

[devout cairn]

i'd have accepted this if it was a variety of gods, but it was exclusively rolling into ares

[jaunty basin]

yes that's what I mean, it's rng

[smoky jolt]

Ashes, bones, and nectar only reroll to one another

[proven lily]

perception of randomness strikes again

[devout cairn]

ok last surface shop, any bets on whether it's ares

[smoky jolt]

I was having a fun time with fates whim runs then I got screwed out of Apollo special 5 times and now I hate it

[jaunty basin]

it's coal that's for sure

[devout cairn]

holy cow the first hestia since thessaly

[proven lily]

ares is heavier with all that armour so the coin's more likely to land on him

[tribal yew]

So what kind of music does ||Charibda|| play?

[jaunty basin]

told you it'd be coal

[smoky jolt]

I turned off frenzy for the first time in awhile cuz I figured it’d be better to ease into every weapon with lower fear and then I beat rivals Eris without even losing my armor (she’s my worst boss)

Granted I went into the fight with like 75 armor but that’s still damageless Eris

[bronze marlin]

noticed that rivals eris REALLY benefits from 40% speed over 20%. I took so much more damage in the last phase because of it as I simply could not get her!

[smoky jolt]

Frenzy Rivals Eris is insane ngl

[bronze marlin]

every time someone talks about "rivals eris is easier than normal" I have to roll my eyes a bit.
like how is normal eris harder hahaha

[proven lily]

you couldn't make me take enemy speed at gunpoint before literally anything else other than grasp, it's so awful

[smoky jolt]

The bullet attacks are probably harder than the lasers but everything else about rivals Eris is way harder

That said the lasers are more punishing

[devout cairn]

yeah i disagree heavily with that, rivals eris can have some awful mob spawns aswell

[bronze marlin]

my favourite: double automaton spawn in that room. so much room to take cover! 10/10 boss fight

14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 from 2 sides

[smoky jolt]

The automatons are a litmus test for if your build has enough damage lmao

[buoyant matrix]

it doesn't

[proven lily]

all permutations of normal-speed Eris are the top 1 and 2 easiest bosses in the game i m o

which isn't a twisted brag, the other Unrivaled are consistently kicking my ass

[reef radish]

heya what's a good build for clearing 32 fear ?

[buoyant matrix]

it's different for every boon, it's extremely important for some, less so on others, mostly because rarity scaling is consistent while pom scaling slowly drops off

[bleak scarab]

anything can clear, it depends on your playstyle and what you prefer to use

[stone maple]

If Chaos had duo boons, who do you think the strongest one would be with?

[smoky jolt]

I feel like Heph would get a crazy one

[reef radish]

hmm i'd say i'm an aggressive player, but some builds would be better than others no ?

[proven lily]

I think it'd be fun if Chaos had duos with all the 'fake Boon givers' e.g. ||Artemis, Hades, Athena, Dionysus||

[bleak scarab]

medea is generally the best aspect to use imo, but its playstyle is pretty different from the rest of the weapons

[buoyant matrix]

tell me your favorite weapon and I'll recommend a simple build

[mint moon]

Oh so its per effect. Would you know if the pom scaling is the same for different rarities of the same boon? E.g Do higher rarities get less or the same value out of poms?

[buoyant matrix]

pom scaling is completely separate from rarity scaling so it's always the same

[wind heron]

gigaros dash is so good man

[reef radish]

oh i love medea but i have to work on avoiding hits when using it. kind of feels like aspect of nemesis from hades 1

[mint moon]

Ah i see. I was under the impression the rarity affected it.

Thank you!

[smoky jolt]

Gigaros Dash my beloved

[bronze marlin]

I would put poly slightly below her, but yeah, the others are way harder. even hecate

[wind heron]

it's honestly so good it makes me a little upset not to see it 😔

[reef radish]

hmm it's a tie between the axe and the sister blades

[bleak scarab]

I feel like with medea you can just explode anything before it gets a chance to deal damage at 32 heat, just get a zeus special and any curse effect on a regular attack

[stone maple]

"this boons gives you an additional +(1 to 4 randomizing per environment) Earth, all your strikes can blast for +25 per earth" rarity would then be the cooldown on it

[smoky jolt]

Even just +25 blast damage per earth is insane

[reef radish]

zeus special + heinous affront goes crazy

[buoyant matrix]

mel blades, start with apollo attack and look for trick knives, final slice or sweeping ambush
charon axe, start with apollo gain and look for a %boost on your special plus giga cleaver or sudden cleaver hammer

[proven lily]

though I feel like I'm more likely to take dumb damage to Polyphemus if I'm greedy, and it'll proportionally hurt a lot more at the end of Ephyra (dodging heart doors) rather than Thessaly (forced to take twenty hearts)

[reef radish]

thanks a lot i will be trying these < 3

[smoky jolt]

What aspect would y’all say uses Heph’s core boons the best?

[hearty fog]

Persephone.

[proven lily]

hidden blades so that you have TWO reasons to cycle through your moves one at a time

[smoky jolt]

Ooo that’s a good one

[hearty fog]

If RNG smiles upon you a run can start with a 2 second Special.

[smoky jolt]

Supay could also be fire

Well, Supay rush

[stone maple]

true enough, i was also thinking a Dem Chaos Duo could be something like "Elemental Harvest" where every X rooms you get a random element which would go hard on any infusion build

[smoky jolt]

I feel like Hera would be better on Perseph special though with Heph on attack

[thorn shadow]

What's the best way to get Nemesis to show up? I'm trying to get her achievement

Like does she prefer up or down specifically?

[hearty fog]

Nemesis does not go on the surface.

[smoky jolt]

I think she only appear for underworld runs

[hearty fog]

After trying both I don't like Heph Attack on Persephone.

[proven lily]

down for sure. I don't think there's anything else you can do to increase your chances of her clobbering you with the sword for cash

[hearty fog]

I found myself getting Chain Reaction pretty frequently and you end up spending a lot of time in Sprouted Special when you could be clanging.

However, paint a bunch of dudes with Hitch and then Sprouted Special through them with suped-up clangs?

[thorn shadow]

Thanks!

[smoky jolt]

Fair

[simple scroll]

fishies are meant to be sold right?

[hearty fog]

Yup.

[stone maple]

indeed, no other use sadly

[simple scroll]

thank god

i was scared that they might be used for some random incantations

[rustic snow]

Anyone know the max Taverna rank? I’m in the unseen tier and the kudos far is wild

[hearty fog]

||Unseen One.||

[rustic snow]

You’re a gem mate, the end is in sight!

[stone maple]

anyways, i want to see Ares in a maid dress and i will not explain further

[tranquil wren]

how many runs have you grinded so far for the kudos?

[twin rivet]

Moros + fine lines + ocean swell + ripple effect = huge damage
Unfortunately my magick almost primed out on the Tail of Typhon fight so I think I'm gonna prime out on Tiffany 😭

[wind heron]

man im too used to fair weapons so i play the game like it's intended sometimes when i use medea

[old ice]

What am I supposed to do now that I beat Chronos for good

Games just over?

[tranquil wren]

go for the epilogue

[old ice]

I can’t find how to do that on google

[hearty fog]

Keep playing and talking to people, try to complete any prophecies you have left.

[old ice]

Do I need to do nightmare runs?

[twin rivet]

Goddamnit how tf am I supposed to do damage witbout Magick

[bronze marlin]

you could cheer frinos on so he stomps typhon to death

[simple scroll]

i believve he can do it

[empty cedar]

is there a way to tell when you'll never need a resource again?

[fervent silo]

Is infernal contract exclusive for descent, or does it appear when going on the surface?

[idle crater]

it appears on the surface

[proven lily]

I've heard it can appear in the surface route, but in the 2nd and 3rd regions rather than the 1st and 2nd because Ephyra's structure doesn't allow for the bonus room that must be in a non-ending-shop

[bronze marlin]

you will have a marker next to the resource in the broker shop that shows if you need it again

[strange berry]

Does someone have something like a "guide" who explain what to choose, please? By that I mean, when to choose flat dammages or %dammages, this type of things

I'm really bad with numbers actually and I'm a bit lost :/

[lunar merlin]

How is (big spoiler) ||Zagreus|| dealing 50 damage per hit fair? feels so much like artifficial difficulty bro

[bronze marlin]

||didn't hades do 50 too with that attack? can't remember it did hurt a lot that's for sure!||

[old ice]

What’s better boon for axe attack, ares or aphro

[lunar merlin]

Maybe its just me but it feels way too much especially that he mostly appears in 2nd region, so very early on

[lunar merlin]

Aphrodite

[old ice]

Also are there anymore hard boss fun fights after killing chrinos for good

[old ice]

Even if you get other %attack boons that run?

[proven lily]

...what

[unkempt zodiac]

It's the same with Charon in hades 1

[bronze marlin]

you will unlock harder bossfights in the oath, yep. they are tough

[unkempt zodiac]

Secret boss being overtuned to discourage fighting it in area 1 is standard practice in hades

[lunar merlin]

So it can appear in later regions if you ignore it for the first time in a run?

[unkempt zodiac]

Yeah it can show up in any area with a mid-area shop

So erebus, oceanus, rift, Olympus, and rarely fields

[simple scroll]

where the hell do you find a soot

[rustic snow]

Sooo many. I had already unlocked most of the decorations before the full release, so I was kinda low on fodder for it. Once release dropped, I got the last few achievements and then it was time to grind. Probably gotten 50k or so kudos from farming if I had to guess

[tranquil wren]

dang nice

[tranquil wren]

talk to ||hades|| after the basic ending

[grizzled trench]

i originally thought crolex was kinda mid but i'm coming around to it

[fleet chasm]

Hey, is there a quick way to reset a save to a few room before? I know it's cheating, but I || missread Artemis gift, I was nailing my surface t24 run, with 400hp and 3 death defying, it was a lot of HP so I took athena's gift going into the summit, thinking it was limiting me to 30 HPMAX MORE... ||, I'm so frustrated I just wanna reset my choice haha

[primal beacon]

Hey, got a question about a certain song. ||Once you reach the top of Olympus, Apollo sings a beautiful song. Is the voice actor singing it himself or is it someone else? :3||

[tribal yew]

If I understand correctly there's 4 Scylla and the sirens songs right?

[tribal yew]

Well you can erase the night, but then you'll have to start over. You should get exact same rng though

[wheat fog]

gigaros dash doesnt count for origination??

[fleet chasm]

Oh didn't think about that, but I got lazy, just died against || Typhon v2 in 1 hit||

Wait, for the || bosses V2 || prophecy, it says || you have to kill each of them, but I got the Typhon one highlighted without winning?||

[tribal yew]

Who's Nergal? Unless the game means the musician

[light iron]

the musician is (presumably) named after the Mesopotamian God

[devout cairn]

could be the other way around, we will never know

[tribal yew]

I'm pretty sure he's not that old

[wheat fog]

God of war, disease, and death from mesopotamian myth

[real scarab]

|| it's enough to face the final tier bosses for that prophecy ||

[broken glen]

||For Typhon and Chronos, you simply have to face them in battle||

[little storm]

It says Behold, ont he final tiers @fleet chasm

[real scarab]

you have to kill the rest tho

[little storm]

Does anyone know if the waking phrase for hidden aspect of the umbral flames is bugged with savefiles created before hidden aspects were a thing? I've done almost 200 nights and not gotten it from ||Moros||

[vapid igloo]

Devs please make i so Poly cant grab you when your behind him

[wheat fog]

do you have moros aspect maxed out

[minor stirrup]

OMG guys tiny Melinoe standing next to Heracles is making me laugh so hard, she's talking to his knee

[strange berry]

What weapons are considered "slow" and then need % dammages like Aphrodite please? 🤔

I suppose there is the axe and all their aspects but the others?

[unkempt zodiac]

I started playing in warsong and nothing has been bugged for me

[minor stirrup]

That is not needed, just any one non-Melinoe aspect maxed

[wheat fog]

thats what i did for circe and it solved my problem, always kinda just kept to that knowledge

[strange berry]

the wiki say it can be any weapon maxed

[devout cairn]

axe is best but everything close range is atleast decent with aphro, even daggers. Aspect of Medea also works with it

[minor stirrup]

The wiki has not been updated to reflect the 1.0 change, which made it so that it has to be a non-Melinoe aspect. Don't rely on the wiki, it's got a lot of missing or inaccurate information

[strange berry]

I just try to understand which weapon need "flat" damages or % damages

I understand slow = % and fast = flat but I was wonwering what weapons are considered slow beside the axe and their aspects

[strange berry]

Oh okay, thanks

[unkempt zodiac]

It's not quite that simple, and there's a lot of middle ground. Torches and coat can work fine with aphro and pals

[unreal hare]

mist veil doesnt work with possessed array

[unkempt zodiac]

*specifically on the attack. Never put them on the special ofc

[unreal hare]

cant spam explosions with that

[crude dragon]

||It's the VA||

[strange berry]

I'm so bad at buildings and numbers in videogame, I'm lost 😮‍💨

[primal beacon]

JEEEZ I DIDNT KNOW

Funny to think ||Alphinaud from FF XIV can sing ||

[crude dragon]

||Someone get him in a Yakuza game, ASAP||

[unkempt zodiac]

Don't worry about it so much tbh. Just make sure you activate origination and vaguely try to put the square block in the square hole and you'll be alr

Building in h2 isn't really that hard, you'll just get better through experience

Getting good duos is way more important than perfectly matching attack boons

[crude dragon]

It goes in the square hole

[devout cairn]

you got the basic idea right, % increases on slow weapons, flat damage increase on fast weapons. Althought it isn't a set rule and it's always gonna depend on a bunch of things. I wouldn't worry too much about the builds, specially if you are just starting out

[little storm]

Any non melinoe maxed on the flames or in general?

[unkempt zodiac]

To make clear how little building matters, most of my runs while completing the testaments were done with judgement on

[strange berry]

I'm in the endgame with 70hours I'm just bad with numbers and try to understand how it work 😭

[devout cairn]

well you got to the endgame so you must be doing something right

[high steeple]

Any non Mel aspect maxed out

[unkempt zodiac]

I only got good at building at like 100 hours

[minor stirrup]

On the flames. For each weapon, to unlock its hidden aspect you need to max a non-Melinoe aspect of that weapon, then speak to a specific person

[little storm]

Oh, lmao i might not

[unkempt zodiac]

You should, torches have really fun aspects :)

[little storm]

Haha i hate the flames, i have maxed every single aspect on all the others, even the hidden ones

[unkempt zodiac]

Bah

[high steeple]

I like the Eos aspect :)))

[little storm]

That makes sense, i was hoping the hidden aspect was more to my liking, now i see why i cant get it lmao

[unkempt zodiac]

Torches prob my favorite weapon overall

[high steeple]

They do da spinny

[little storm]

They do do da spinny

[unkempt zodiac]

Torches, staff, axe, skulls, knives, coat I think would be my order

[minor stirrup]

Yeah, that would be why! I recommend upgrading either Moros or Eos, both are incredibly strong when upgraded and don't need super specific builds to be strong

[devout cairn]

It's hard to give you an all-encompassing answer for every build that you are ever gonna build. It's easier for people to give you tips in more specific contexts.

[unkempt zodiac]

Also if torches ever feel bad simply turn on vow of time 3 and they instantly become fun

[urban flicker]

can anyone help me with unlock the Reval hidden aspect? i have one of the weapons at rank 5, but no matter how much i talk with medea she will not give it to me, she seems to be stuck at wanting the tears, which she will not let me give her either, anything? ive done legit 30+ runs of just running to her room and dying trying to get it

[wheat fog]

axe couldve gone 4/4 aspects if nergal wasnt so dookie, thanatos, mel and charon are so insanely good

[high steeple]

I love the than aspect

[unkempt zodiac]

I see a lot of nergal love around

[crude dragon]

I am in Spain without the a

[devout cairn]

it cant be mel's aspect, otherwise you are just out of luck

[minor stirrup]

There are some exceptions for sure, like for example sister blades are fast weapons but Aphrodite is one of the strongest upgrades for their attack and/or special

[unkempt zodiac]

Staff is prob the most consistently fun weapon across aspects

[urban flicker]

lol? why cant it be mels, that sucks....thats the one i have at 5

[unkempt zodiac]

Circe momus and anubis are all great standouts and Mel is at least quite strong

[wheat fog]

is anyone else really dissapointed that you cant go to || zeus's palace and hades house || after credits

[high steeple]

Also does Hecate also have Ygnium or are her flames just modeled after them

[devout cairn]

it has to be the ones you upgrade with Nightmares, so anything other than Mel's. This applies for all hidden aspects

[unkempt zodiac]

I played in the early access. This is normal

[tranquil wren]

it's like the first game so I'm not surprised

[high steeple]

I don‘t care about Olympus but i do wanna go home!!!!

[wheat fog]

i wouldve liked seeing those again tho 😔

[unkempt zodiac]

Hecate does use the umbral flames, but she uses the aspect of hecate, which melinoe doesn't have. I think that's the lore at least

makes more sense if you complete more of the game and see some story unravel

[urban flicker]

well any tips as to why Medea wont let me give her the tears either?

[unkempt zodiac]

Gotta brew them first

[strange berry]

Okay thanks for your tips

[high steeple]

Don‘t cry, have a frog!

[urban flicker]

i have no incantation or recipes for that? someone told me you just gift her the tears

[high steeple]

[unkempt zodiac]

Do you have a quest for it?

[high steeple]

Omg it‘s two frogs

[devout cairn]

hmmm not a fan of most of the Frinos' skins, Hecuba clears

[urban flicker]

yeah Bitter Tears

[devout cairn]

last one is cool I guess 🐸

[wheat fog]

cupid frinos gos hard tho

[urban flicker]

says in her codex entry she wants them as well

[unkempt zodiac]

Sacrilege. Frinos has the best skins

[wheat fog]

toula has the best skins u guys suck

[devout cairn]

nah, but then again he's a frog how cool can these goobers look

[high steeple]

[unkempt zodiac]

What familiars do yall use

[devout cairn]

Hecuba's silver sister skin has a sword on her back! How cool is that?

[high steeple]

[wheat fog]

frinos and raki 90% of the time

[unkempt zodiac]

Same

[devout cairn]

frinos, hecuba and i might start using gale

[high steeple]

Whatever item type i need lol

[devout cairn]

certified toula hater though

[crude dragon]

Gale:

[unkempt zodiac]

Frinos if I'm using strength since I don't trust myself, raki if I'm on circe aspect or if I'm going speedy

[high steeple]

I should have used Frinos more cause now i unlocked the entire grasp and i kinda feel the extra psyche isn‘t really needed

[unkempt zodiac]

Psyche converts to kudos well

[high steeple]

Omg i also use Raki with Circe Descura

[crude dragon]

Think you need to beat Cerby again for the recipe to show up?

[urban flicker]

ill try it i guiess, im close to 100% of the game but certain things just stonewalling me, really frustrating

[high steeple]

I don‘t like how Cerberus keeps getting bothered by the shades in the fields >:(((

[wheat fog]

like what lmao

[unkempt zodiac]

Common hades 2 behavior

I can't complete the last Odysseus quest because circe will not spawn

[tropic monolith]

He just keeps going back there!

[urban flicker]

just stuff not unlocking, ive had artemis blades at rank 5 and cant get her to show up

took me 500000 conversations with chaos before he gave me the embryo quest

[tropic monolith]

you're doing underworld runs right?

[high steeple]

Boy needs a shade collar like dogs need a flea collar

[urban flicker]

yup, ive been running to hecate nonstop and resetting

[tropic monolith]

try going through sirens, she can appear there too

[urban flicker]

also trying to get hecate to give me the arachne quest line, which she wont do

[high steeple]

Does Hypnos ever ||return to the crossroads?||

[wheat fog]

no lmao im pretty sure we never meet him ever again

[high steeple]

NOOOOOOOO

[tropic monolith]

...that's actually disappointing

[high steeple]

MY BOYYYYYY

Unrelated but i love the Zag plushie in his dreams

[crude dragon]

She can show up in Oceanus as well

[wheat fog]

i got dissapointed with alot of things in 1.0, fates, hypnos etc

[high steeple]

Lil burning feets

[tropic monolith]

I do have to say I feel like the final closures are a little weaker this time around

[wheat fog]

huh what how

[tropic monolith]

Artemis

[high steeple]

Artemis can show up in Oceanus

[crude dragon]

Artemis can spawn in Oceanus

[wheat fog]

yeah nvm

2 iq message

[high steeple]

[tropic monolith]

also I hate how getting a chaos gate at the start of meadow is such a bad idea

[high steeple]

I mean you don‘t have to jump in

[tropic monolith]

the Well likes to offer an item to force it and that's just a dead slot!

[crude dragon]

It skips the miniboss or something?

[tropic monolith]

it skips the first 2 reward room

[hearty timber]

Can we romance Icarus? I gave him the ectoplasmic draught

[fleet chasm]

Hey, 80h in, got only 1 flux really soon in the game... is it possible that my save is bugged? I really met Chaos more than 40 times

[devout cairn]

yes

[crude dragon]

I mean, depending on what those two rewards are, that can be a fair trade

[high steeple]

Just keep going back there with Raki

[smoky jolt]

I think you’re just horribly unlucky

[hearty timber]

What triggers the romance scene 😭

[tropic monolith]

it just sucks to have to spend cash knowing I'm going to have to burn 2 rewards if I want to actually claim that gate 😐

[wheat fog]

genuinely how

[crude dragon]

Part of the risk and reward with Chaos

[high steeple]

I mean u are gambling

[tropic monolith]

...it's really not, normally you only give up a single reward

[devout cairn]

Idk, time and luck?

[dusk trellis]

Anyone know what is required to unlock more plant plots incarnation? I have beaten the lower half boss many times and made it to the upper 4th boss. I have unlocked all of my cards and maxed my grasp out. I have also completed 9 trials, yet I still only have 2 plots. I am on night 48, my previous game that was on night 34 already had 4 plots available.

[crude dragon]

And some Chaos boons can be worth the trade

[tropic monolith]

run the familiar for that harvest type, max out its harvest % boost

[copper vector]

TIME FOR SOME GRADE S+ DUCKERY https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1426253278047502377/image.png?ex=68ea8d5f&is=68e93bdf&hm=06fb418cb392a0ebbae358d7686a2204cfd38d4d1510772ff96fe93bf0649694&

[hearty timber]

Does it happen in the rift of thessaly?

[crude dragon]

Getting an Epic or Heroic Revival boon is worth giving up even a hammer, for instance

[devout cairn]

crossroads

[smoky jolt]

Some rooms can also just be like money and a pom

[crude dragon]

Or max HP and MP

[tropic monolith]

Let me spell it out for you.

-A normal chaos boon you give up one reward for the chance at a great chaos selection.
-Buying ixion from the Well before Meadow you're:

• Spending gold
• For the chance that the two boons offered will be low enough power to be worth sacrificing for a chaos boon
• Hoping to get a good chaos selection

There's much more risk than just a normal chaos boon tradeoff

[vapid igloo]

Does Eris have diolog when you kill Typhon for the final time?

[amber minnow]

doomed city is best track in the ost

[crude dragon]

Doomed City isn't even the best Ephyra track

[smoky jolt]

Olympus Aflame though

[amber minnow]

oh yeah

[crude dragon]

The Necropolis is better

[high steeple]

Nothing that would be memorable iirc

[stoic urchin]

risk of rain

[amber minnow]

i did like the ||mother of storms/father of monsters|| tracks that came after it though, felt like i was literally playing that one scene from phantasia

night on bald mountain is the one

[devout cairn]

i like whatever that track is from one of typhon's body parts that starts going AAAAAAAAAHHHH or was it OOOOOOOOHH

🔥

[teal zephyr]

Whatever plays when you fight Prometheus

[copper vector]

Hey guys,are 0 grasp purple cards viable or not?

[smoky jolt]

That’s Olympus Aflame

[teal zephyr]

Olympus aflame is indeed aflame then

[tranquil wren]

olympus aflame is genuinely so peak, I love it so much

[unkempt zodiac]

Doesn't always play

I'm pretty sure Olympus has 2 boss themes(?)

[tropic monolith]

they all have multiple

[thorn badge]

The other one is Wrath of the Heavens

[unkempt zodiac]

Wdym viable

[unkempt zodiac]

Except the final boss I'd guess?

[amber minnow]

honorable mention to Deep Sleep, my default crossroads music

[thorn badge]

The only bosses with 1 theme are the final bosses of each region (technically they have two with rivals but not counting that here)

[unkempt zodiac]

I like the area theme before bewitching eyes

[stoic urchin]

hahahahaaaa

[unkempt zodiac]

That's usually what I have in the crossroads if I'm not on shuffle

[tropic monolith]

...Nemesis stealing doors is thematic but not really fun 🙁

[unkempt zodiac]

You can beat her to it!

[tropic monolith]

can, but sometimes she starts really close or there's a harvest to grab first

[copper vector]

i mean this beutey https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1426253278047502377/image.png?ex=68ea8d5f&is=68e93bdf&hm=06fb418cb392a0ebbae358d7686a2204cfd38d4d1510772ff96fe93bf0649694& snorts asbestos

[unkempt zodiac]

Yes it is viable it's not meta or optimal but it is viable

[sharp citrus]

Hello 👋 i have a question, how can i get crystal of darkness (im french i dont if its the exact name)

[high steeple]

Would u say that it‘s
Not fair?

[copper vector]

what about ||Charon|| axe

[tropic monolith]

I'd say it's not fun

[unkempt zodiac]

Can you explain a little bit more what you are talking about?

[high steeple]

Do you mean the little piece of darkness like from the first game?

[hearty fog]

It's a gatherable item in Chaos.

[unkempt zodiac]

Good weapon we like

[devout cairn]

harvest before fight is over

[sharp citrus]

Yes its that

[tropic monolith]

yeah that's a great way to make sure to win the race ><

[devout cairn]

or before it starts

[unkempt zodiac]

As was said, you can find it in Chaos sometimes

[high steeple]

Can be collected in Chaos

[tropic monolith]

I know how to work around it.

That doesn't make it more fun

[copper vector]

well i dont want good stuff,i want absolute trash to use to do a 50+ fear run

[sharp citrus]

Oh OK thank all of you

[unkempt zodiac]

Hell yeah

[devout cairn]

it's kinda funny

[tropic monolith]

It was funny the first time

Not the twentieth 😐

[devout cairn]

gets me everytime...

[crude dragon]

That'd be Olympus Aflame or Wrath of the Heavens

[crude dragon]

Gup

[tropic monolith]

Funny is when I accidentally edge myself out of the instakill safe circle vs Chronos and eat the attack because I was being careless with my skull attack spam

[crude dragon]

One of the top 10, if not top 5

[ripe sparrow]

Does anything special need to happen before (late-game spoilers) ||Prometheus speaks up about the Fates|| or am I just at the whims of the RNG at the mo?

[stoic urchin]

how is pan's status rn

[crude dragon]

Still gutted

[devout cairn]

bottom 5 fr fr

[high steeple]

Skill issue

[tropic monolith]

yep!

And it's my own fault, which is why it's funny.

[stoic urchin]

does poseidon still have internal cooldown

[high steeple]

Also something something greed

[unkempt zodiac]

I think it was lessened in 1.0

[stoic urchin]

NOT greed, Hubris

[unkempt zodiac]

But still exists

[high steeple]

Not really

[stoic urchin]

Hubris

[tropic monolith]

nah I think it was greed

anyway, Nemesis isn't funny because she's not "your fault" when she takes the exit.

[amber minnow]

she gets so mad if she's shopping and you nab the purchase first

[crude dragon]

It was lessened to the point where it'll proc on every Pan knife and every Coat OSpecial, regardless of spacing

[crude dragon]

Same with Heracles

[stoic urchin]

but it does not trigger with lim and oros' stabbing flurry in the normal attack right

[amber minnow]

nem stealing a hammer door leaving me with soul tonic 😭
gotta go fast

[merry whale]

incantation of stop taking my doors

[bronze marlin]

would be funny if she could use the charon wells too and buy everything up

[dapper berry]

Hi I unlocked the second gift of the night (at 12 fear surface) and I still haven’t unlocked the reroll incantation what do I have to do to unlock it?
Beat the game, got the new keepsakes, and got epilogue

[crimson spindle]

end game spoiler question :
||guys do i need any amount of fear to get Zagreus encounter?||

[crude dragon]

Unless the requirements changed, it's getting 7 final boss kills and having the second Fear statue

[dapper berry]

Got that statue

[merry whale]

iirc u also need to have done the epilogue

[dapper berry]

Just did that

[bronze marlin]

It did change. for me it unlocked after the golden age achievement. the only thing I can rule out are the testaments, don't need to do those as I didn't have them either.

[dapper berry]

Nope

[crude dragon]

Nope, just need to get lucky in the midshop

[merry whale]

||zag should turn up heat to match our fear||

[crimson spindle]

then are there any other requirements? i found it once and i cant anymore for some reason

[tropic monolith]

||mid-area charon is required, the first or second in underworld or second or third in over||

[dapper berry]

Nope just luck

[crude dragon]

||He actually has a fight intro about him considering doing that after Mel mentions she buffed him up with the Oath of the Unseen. It'd be funny to see him buff Mel for the rest of the run because he wanted to make the fight harder on himself||

Unfortunately, the chance this happens is minimal since that'd require a content patch 💔

[merry whale]

o wait interesting ||too bad i never take his fight, ig i should for dialogue purposes ||

[dapper berry]

They might do it

[bronze marlin]

||I'd take a hades 1 grit1. or underworld customs so I GET a boon he sold from him every region. ||

[crude dragon]

Would be the first time that Supergiant had ever done a major patch after release, though

[crude dragon]

||It just pops out of the Pool of Purging, and Melinöe is so confused as to why it happens at first||

[unkempt zodiac]

Specifically a ||boon from hades 1 that she's never seen before and may not even make sense in the context of the game||

[dapper berry]

Zagreus should have some Olympian help in his fight if it’s later on

[proven lily]

||what do you MEAN 'pick up my cast'||

[crude dragon]

||What is "Athena's Aid?" Is it like a Hex?||

[tropic monolith]

the fight seemed kinda easy, I'd support him having a call tbh.

Compared to Charon's fight in 1

[dapper berry]

So instead of hades lite he is Theseus lite

[tropic monolith]

hades x theseus

[pulsar glacier]

That one Pillar when you enter Thessaly is the bane of my existence

[crude dragon]

Imagine ||a Rivals version where he gets a full boon list and Duos||

[dapper berry]

Oh gods

[proven lily]

he brings some ||boons of Persephone like she teases in Tartarus||

[crude dragon]

||Zag tosses out Hunting Blades||

[dapper berry]

Or he inflicts drunk on Mel/deflects her attacks

[broken glen]

||I mean, Theseus of all people was able to get boons from gods during a match. Why can’t Zag???||

[crude dragon]

||Especially since Olympus and Chaos like Zag more than Mel anyways||

[bronze marlin]

||I don't want to encounter zag when he has artemis boons. I think I can live without 150! on the big swings||

[hearty fog]

For whoever was wondering, ||Infernal Contracts|| can show up on the surface.

[crude dragon]

||Zag with Merciful End||

[broken glen]

||in Thessaly and Olympus||

[dapper berry]

Imagine if he screams Dionysus ||after the death defiance||

[hearty fog]

Could be worse. ||He could invoke Aphrodite.||

"We heard you didn't like having to find the safe spot during Chronos's instakill."

[crude dragon]

||2500 damage homing missile. You better bring Frinos

"They're going to love this!"||

[hearty fog]

Oh my god ||keeping it 2500 damage would be great, too.||

[crude dragon]

||Also imagining an Artemis Greater Call, with a half dozen arrows getting fired off||

[hearty fog]

||And they can all crit.||

[proven lily]

all's fine til he shouts ||"Grandfather!"|| ||(Zag's way ahead at grinding hearts)||

[dapper berry]

I would personally steal all the ambrosia I gave her

[hearty fog]

||"I spent your entire childhood and adolescence with him, Mel, keep up."||

[crude dragon]

||"Grandfather!"
"No time to blink!"||

[plain remnant]

Yoooo!! Is this discord server now talking about cool stuff in the game

[crude dragon]

No, we're talking headcanons

[boreal yoke]

Has anyone put together a list of what each ingredient/reagent is used for? I want to get rid of all my psyche but...

[plain remnant]

awww

[bronze marlin]

oh god hahaha
I wanted to actually play the game, but this is too funny here

[crude dragon]

Specifically, ways to spice up the secret boss

[proven lily]

the spoiler blocks aren't Silksong jumpscares if that's what you're wondering (the plague continues to spread across the internet)

[small bison]

What is the credits song name?

[crude dragon]

Plague? But the Infection's ||canonically gone||

[plain remnant]

hes definitely a bit... lackluster in comparison to charon.

It'd be cool if he was like theasus and relied on gods blessings

[crude dragon]

||Time Belongs to Us||

[small bison]

Is it on spotify?

[plain remnant]

but... has anyone tried out persphone skull with pom keep sake? my gawwwwwd

[crude dragon]

||All fun and games until he rolls Hunting Blades or the Demeter/Artemis Duo||

[lime timber]

Howdy folks, I was wondering how I'm supposed to unlock || Heracles'|| final heart?

[boreal yoke]

I take it it's a no on this? 😅 I wish you could filter out uses for stuff like ||music||, cuz I'm never gonna bother to unlock all that

[crude dragon]

Gotta get the right dialogue from him in a run after ||fighting him in Rivals Prometheus||

[proven lily]

just searched, found it on Spotify (along with the version that plays ||from the one-Shade orchestra I think?||)

[bronze marlin]

||need to reach (and maybe beat, I don't know) rivals 3 a few times and talk with him in his encounter||

[small bison]

Oh yea found it but it wasn't on the playlist of hades 2 idk why

[plain remnant]

Would've been very cool if he actually had 2 random boons, one attack, one cast and then the duo boon which connects to hades1

[lime timber]

I've done it a few times, not sure how many more I have to do tbh

[stuck gazelle]

please tell me Athena only says "your brother's favorite" if you choose the Divine Dash

[lime timber]

It's just him and Icarus I have left

[bronze marlin]

she does!

[plain remnant]

Only on devine dash!

[lime timber]

Bc I always used it, my goat

[hearty fog]

She has a few lines when you take Divine Dash.

[stuck gazelle]

omg i f love this game

[crude dragon]

She can also say "How did I know" if you choose it

[bronze marlin]

calling us out like that. how dare you sgg

[crude dragon]

But yeah, it's specifically the dash that gives the dialogue

[crude dragon]

||Zag also has dialogue about how his favorite Stygius and Exagryph variants are Nemesis and Eris, respectively

Since, y'know, those were the go-to Aspects for both of those weapons||

[stuck gazelle]

these kinds of details i love about these games

[stuck gazelle]

that's literally what i just said when i saw it, my goat

[lime timber]

Lol it finally went through, I just need to finish Icarus and that's everyone

[proven lily]

speaking of cute little details, can you get Bad Call dialogue in this one by using a Godsent Hex after pissing someone off in a Family Dispute? I imagine so but I've never had the opportunity

[zealous mesa]

hi! does anyone have any clue of what the requirements to upgrade the vow of rivals are? i felt like i defeated the first two bosses countless times with it active but i have no clue how to progress 😭

[lime timber]

You have to beat both the up and down boss to get the next level

[zealous mesa]

ive done that more than once

[crude dragon]

You can indeed

[lime timber]

Weird, it could be that it's progression gated? I never touched it until post-epilogue tbh

[bronze marlin]

mmmh, I know that selene is talking about rivals a lot, but I don't think this dialogue is actually required for the incantations

[crude dragon]

Have you ||encountered Charybdis in Thessaly||?

[stuck gazelle]

all i can say is Greg and sgg are just genius

[zealous mesa]

mhm, more than once too

[crude dragon]

Weird. Those should be the only reqs

[zealous mesa]

im like one step away from completing the ||melinoe seek us|| incantation so that should give an idea of how far into the game i am lol

[devout cairn]

Did you fight Charybdis in Thessaly?

[broken glen]

You do have to fight Charybdis

[bronze marlin]

did you increase the fear regularly? maybe there is some weird new requirement

[zealous mesa]

i just beat a 32 fear run a few hours ago so yeah i have def played around

[pulsar glacier]

wild how stubborn Hades II can make me lol
wanted to try a attack based build with Zeus as attack boon, nothing too special, only rough thing is that its a|| Fates Whim|| build, but sooner or later I would get my Zeus attack, right?
Well, now i'm fighting ||Prometheus ||without any attack boon cause I refuse to not take zeus and I didnt find any zeus at all in my run >_>

[devout cairn]

As much as I like the dialogue system in this it does tend to gate progression in the most annoying ways

[zealous mesa]

i guess ill just keep going and see what happens

on another note, does anyone know how to forge bond with odysseus? its one of the only few im missing

[tranquil wren]

further your relationship with circe

[ivory zodiac]

https://imgur.com/a/b6BdXNH
has any1 experienced it? my card in arcana is purple, but when i check it in stats its in base form. why is that

[copper vector]

sorry can someone answer me again about this,i kinda got sidetracked by a fat strong farmer girl

[zealous mesa]

its maxed

[buoyant matrix]

check the cauldron

also have you ever used any save modifiers to give yourself more resources?

[wheat needle]

Was at 10 hp when fighting rivals final boss for surface..... then ||I GOT TURNED INTO A FREAKING KID AND 1 SHOTTED|| FML

[copper vector]

just a visual thing probably,restart the game. a surprising amount of bugs are fixed from just restarting

[zealous mesa]

its not there, and no i havent

[wheat needle]

Sister blades feel god awful to use at times.
Trying to get surface complete with it and its like nails on a chalk board 🥀

[tranquil wren]

aspect of the morrigan, trust

[copper vector]

why? why do this to yourself? and i do 55f no hit runs @sub 21fps for crying outloud

[quasi elm]

Oh I love them

[tranquil wren]

im guessing you dont have a prophecy to take your knucklebones to different people?

[bronze marlin]

gotta get good with all weapons

[ionic furnace]

YES I MANAGED TO BEAT TYPHON

[buoyant matrix]

are you ever taking selene in runs

[proven lily]

wow, beating up an elderly being, how rude

[zealous mesa]

i had polyphemus and ive completed it, not any others though

[copper vector]

ok.....

[ionic furnace]

he was very rude sending his children to beat me up

[zealous mesa]

not often but sometimes if i dont have anything better to take

[proven lily]

call down the moon she's crying :(

[fringe pecan]

Moonstone axe with hestia attack and no buffs on attack speed

[bronze marlin]

just use medea. no hit impossible instantly

[wheat needle]

They feel fine to use dont get me wrong.
Just feels meh compared to other weapons

You need specific boons to make it work

[copper vector]

not even thanatos...just the barebone axe....

[fringe pecan]

take the slowest aspect

[copper vector]

im geniunely gunna do it

[lyric zenith]

Not necessarily?
Just go on-hit

[buoyant matrix]

has she told you any dialogue about how you "defeated your rivals" or something like that? i think that's a requirement

[lyric zenith]

They're probably the weakest weapon overall, but it's a weapon issue and not really a boon synergy issue.

[wheat needle]

Yeah ik, stuff like hestia, Zeus and aphro are nutty.
Other than that its meh

[zealous mesa]

not that i remember, ty for the heads up

[twin rivet]

Why does Typhon go from kinda easy (for a final boss) to absolute hell in just one phase

[lyric zenith]

Probably Poseidon and not Zeus, since there isn't really a tight combo for blitz trigger.

[buoyant matrix]

it's just the last phase and it's all because of the ground tentacles

you do get kinda used to that ridiculous phase 4, just takes a lot of practice

[twin rivet]

The attack where he shoots outs orbs also sucks cuz idk if I should stay close or stay far awag

[copper vector]

hold on,i just noticed i never did a fear run with the axe and barely killrf 1.6k foes with it,only the staff and ||black coat|| .....this isnt going to be fun

[buoyant matrix]

it helps to no hit the entire rest of the fight to keep all your shields and armor for phase 4

[bronze marlin]

the last phase feels like: "okay mel, now you've seen all of my attacks. how about all at once?!"

[twin rivet]

My strategy is just stalward stand + moros keepsake + all DD's

[copper vector]

atleast ||my axe is rank v???||

[buoyant matrix]

the initial bomb will hit right below his chin, secondary clusters usually hit the middle and tertiary clusters will hit far down. in my experience you should stand far, wait for the first bomb to hit, then dash up at the right time to iframe the explosion of the secondary clusters

[twin rivet]

But what if
Tentacles

[wheat needle]

Vow of rivals fight is even worse.
||youre turned into a kid and forced to dodge chronos + typhon attack while trying to charge a circle to turn back to normal||

[twin rivet]

Doesn't matter though cuz I defeated that fcker

[twin rivet]

Apollo singing >>>>>

[hollow horizon]

Hey. Had a question. Is it still possible to create a duplicate a save file on Steam deck? Don't want to lose my arcana load out from early access but want to try jeweled pom.

[tranquil wren]

babality was not so bad for me, but it's legit impossible to focus dodging both ||chronos and typhon|| at the same time

[tranquil wren]

theres an incantation that lets you have different arcana presets. but also, taking a screenshot seems far easier

[jaunty night]

so for the ||fates ||prophecy i gotta ||clear doomed 3 times and then die?||

[buoyant matrix]

the tentacles are programmed to never line up in an impossible way, the moment he does his cluster shot, the tentacles can only be spinning right under his chin, so the middle area where you're supposed to dash into will be safe

[tranquil wren]

die on the third doom

[jaunty night]

oh ok

[copper vector]

chat,should i? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1426281756298051745/image.png?ex=68eaa7e5&is=68e95665&hm=961da8815db7ad319b11fee29f8e14312d65d569b4824db5b9c0fadf0284cfce&
(ps:its not a ||thanatos|| its a rank v moonstone axe))

[jolly wing]

For Post game in shops ||If I skip an Infernal Contract|| will they appear later in the same run?

[wind heron]

oh damn cut above works on every hit of supay's omega attack?

[buoyant matrix]

it can appear in erebus, oceanus, thessaly and olympus midshops
if you hit the 40% again in the second area then yeah

[copper vector]

is an ||infernal contract|| something new i missed? or maybe im dumb and just dont remmeber the name

[jolly wing]

Would it be better to try that at the shop before boss instead of mid shop, so you can purchase boons again?

[tranquil wren]

it's ||zag's bossfight||

[buoyant matrix]

it can't appear in endshops at all, only in midshops

[proven lily]

it's new, yeah, postgame. If you have a haibt of only going to end-shops instead of mid-shops it can take a long time to discover

[copper vector]

yep,something new i havent gotten to yet. but im close i think,already won against chronos like 7 times or something

anyways,back to me because im an egotistical duck. should i take hell splitter on my rankv moonstone axe to make my masochistic run even more painful?

[jolly wing]

Oh, good to know. I was confused why I ended up in shop afterwards/

[buoyant matrix]

no

[copper vector]

Why,it would be so wrong and bad and ugly. Like a pug

[jaunty night]

got to the epilogue.. it's really not as bad as some people say lol

i didn't mind it one bit, in fact i think it's neat and interesting

[bronze marlin]

people over exaggerating like usual. that's the internet for you.
||I was at best disappointed, but whatever, it is not the worst thing ever.||

[wind heron]

GIGAROS DASH RAAAAAH

[proven lily]

nah pong has a better story honestly

[jaunty night]

it's so peak

[wind heron]

i wish there were less numbers on screen so i could figure out if supay affected giga dash

[copper vector]

sooo..i kinda died from my joke axe run,so im going to take out my rage at the gym,any body wants ciggies when i come back?

[pastel lava]

anyone know if i can do the 'Born to win' Prophesy the same run i unlocked it? i used the embryo from the start and got a chaos gate in firest area and got the dialogue that should unlock it but can i keep having it equuopped for the rest of this run to unlock it or does it have to be a different run?

[tranquil wren]

it should work I think

[copper vector]

they got purple mix Marlboros,they pretty nice

[pastel lava]

guess il try not changing it and find out then

[wind heron]

aw i was hoping nemesis would have a voiceline if she got 0 kills

very odd that she doesn't

[jaunty night]

she's trying to ignore it, leave her alone meanie

[little mason]

She should find a new job

[wind heron]

hephaestus is so easily the biggest winner this patch in terms of gods

i love my 2 second blasts

[proven lily]

does she have a line if YOU get no kills?

[little mason]

Maybe stay at home

[deft agate]

I agreeeee!! I used to avoid taking his boons in EA but now I hope he appears most runs

[wind heron]

I saw that.

also yeah same as long as im using pom hephaestus is my best friend

[wispy storm]

Does anyone know if Lethal Snare applies to foes hit by the cleave cast rings who were not previously within the cast ring?

nevermind i've reread it it's specifically attacks

[paper marsh]

what do i need to do to get the end of times ost at the music maker?

i alr beat unrivaled chronos

[hollow horizon]

@tranquil wren I have a 31/30 arcana load out. I won't be able to use it if I change jt.

[bronze marlin]

beat him twice. same thing with typhon's music

[wind heron]

THAT BIRD I HATE

[simple epoch]

Is it just me or are Daedalus upgrades very hit or miss, either slightly boosting the least useful part of a weapon's kit or massively improving the most powerful part of the weapon's kit?

The Inverted Flames daedalus upgrade for the Umbral Flames seems absurdly powerful. Basically doubles damage against bosses, increases range, and allows projectiles to pierce enemies for better multi-target damage, all simultaneously.

Meanwhile there's one that makes your special spin 20% faster, which doesn't seem all that useful to me

[wind heron]

THAT
BIRD
I HATE

[merry whale]

yea for most hammers there's like 1 or 2 hammers that actually shift the gameplay while the rest are kinda ass

i really like the 20% faster spec tho personally, tho i'm never picking it up again cuz they nerfed the special playstyle

[wind heron]

some of them just feel like the weapon was made weaker specifically so the hammer could exist

[warm dust]

help, i have achieved a black coat attack speed that is faster than i can click

[merry whale]

hold atk

[simple epoch]

That does the omega attack

[warm dust]

i have no magick

[merry whale]

ah ur right i forgor it's like that

there should be a setting that disables omega charging

[simple epoch]

Maybe having no magic will make it just do the attack instead?

[proven lily]

that's like the game's most core mechanic

nah when you're empty it just does the lame uncharged fakeout right

[merry whale]

there's a funny thing with mirrored thrasher staff rn where if ur completely primed out u literally cannot get out any basic attack and are forced to do an omega atk (but ur primed out so ur atk is completely bricked)

[simple epoch]

The exception is Umbral Flames, since it normal attacks when holding click. Understandable thing to forget if that's your main weapon or if you just played a lot of Hades 1

[merry whale]

ye i used to play flames a lot since it was unpopular, but the playstyle i adopted apparently is unintended so i'm not picking that one up again

[earnest leaf]

did someone here unlock the incantation that lets you rerolll seeds after the full release? i know it exists because i have a friend who got it before the release, but for some reason even though i did everything the wiki said i need to in order to unlock it, and got 7 zsand and 7 typhone eyes i havent unlocked it

[merry whale]

iirc u need to have done the epilogue

[earnest leaf]

oh so i assume ||after i find the fates||?

[merry whale]

ye

[pastel lava]

i assume the special for the argent skull dosent count as 'rushing' for the sake of the romantic spark duo boon?

[earnest leaf]

thanks

[simple epoch]

Honestly the base flames should pierce enemies with the non-omega normal attack. The increased range and returning after dash (which can increase your damage up to 2x) is already very good even without adding extra utility.

[wind heron]

"this is our mountain" girl who has been there like 4 times and isn't allowed there rn

[broken glen]

Hey that’s more times than most would be able to go there

[next cargo]

you're telling me there's no achievement for getting exactly 666 max hp?

[onyx fable]

Does anyone know where I can report bugs? Im on switch 2 btw

[broken glen]

The significance of that number is rooted in Christianity, not Greek mythology

[jolly hound]

Gold Star ⭐️

[wind heron]

raki's crits happen surprisingly often for me tbh

[next cargo]

no it's rooted in me playing too much binding of isaac

[vapid igloo]

Hades 3 you play Iris and you just trying to ruin everything

[long cosmos]

Do you all think we should have some way of upgrading arcana cards or atleast some of them to heroic )4 smth? Or maybe have some sort of an effect similar to overcharmed from hollow knight(i did a silly back in beta and so i have a set using 31/30 Arcana)

[next cargo]

no actually

[long cosmos]

Cinema

[vapid igloo]

that or you play Prometheus

[next cargo]

I actually like that the keepsakes really have power to them

there's a strategy to figure out and you can't just have it all

[long cosmos]

I mean I didn't say anything about the keepsakes, i like em too but i wished for a Moros companion like Thanatos :((

[next cargo]

rip chronos my pig drew judgment in the second biome

[bronze marlin]

going above 30 grasp should increase damage taken by 50% each. would make for fun silly runs. going past your limits and stuff

[vapid igloo]

I wish that getting to the end of the gift giving would buff the items more

[next cargo]

does Thanatos exist in this story?

[long cosmos]

Yesnt

I really wanted that Moros companion

[vapid igloo]

I wanted to see Achilles and Odyssey catch up

[fair void]

charon axe feels rough with frenzy 2 on against prometheus

[next cargo]

how's that heel treating ya?

[vapid igloo]

and to see Syisaphus again

[long cosmos]

Hades 2.1, a co-op game where you play as a slightly older zag and a slightly older mel and the 2 fight stuff

[hexed steeple]

hot damn finally got it

list of prophecies completed

[next cargo]

I'm unsure how old she's supposed to be in this game

[hexed steeple]

that’s it, it’s over, it’s all over

[vapid igloo]

Ah i don't think im doing that. Stupid Rivals Prometheus

[high steeple]

Like late teen, young adult-ish

[next cargo]

20?

[hexed steeple]

I am finally 100% full content complete on Hades 2, from the first day of EA to v1.0

I’ve completed absolutely everything

[paper kraken]

Those 2 Chaos trials at Olympus makes me want to be Kratos at the end of GoW 1

[high steeple]

We don‘t know how gods age so it‘s not mentioned in game

[hexed steeple]

and I don’t think I’ve done that for a game in nearly a decade

[warm dust]

wtf just happened to me on typhon ||i entered typhon rivals 4 fight, looked away at my youtube video for a bit while the fight got started. suddenly i hear "you are nothing typhon!" and he takes 13000 damage from something and instantly goes to the enemy spawn phase.||

[hexed steeple]

Olympians are basically Gears lol, they’re born as babies, grow to adulthood fairly quickly, then stay at a certain age for basically an indeterminate amount of forever

[vapid igloo]

im not sure if they could do another Hades though, unless they make Prometheus the Antag or the player character but can't picture that being that good. Maybe oen of them ending up in the wrong underworld

[high steeple]

Are we ever told how many years it‘s been since Mel‘s birth?

[vapid igloo]

"Hades 3 were in China now deal with it"

[high steeple]

Cause i don‘t think it‘s been mentioned

[hexed steeple]

indeterminate amount of forever

[vapid igloo]

it weird thinking that all the Names Shades are older than both the protags

[high steeple]

I miss my employee of the month pinbboard

[hexed steeple]

I think the red shade found in the arena stands and spectating the cerb fight in the fields is the farmer Demeter fell in love with, and is therefore Persephone’s dad / Zag & Mel’s mortal grandpa

[high steeple]

So a headcanon?

[next cargo]

we could work it out relatively

[hexed steeple]

I want to say I heard it somewhere, but I can’t say

[hexed steeple]

Now what’s really nuts is that my actual H1 headcanon was proven as 100% true as of v1.0

[vapid igloo]

Surely Arachne deserves to be free of her curse for helping fight the Legions of Kronus

[hexed steeple]

that being that The Unseen Ones - the Extreme Measures boss theme of Zag v Hades from H1 - was Zagreus’ actual leitmotif

and that’s his fight music in H2

[vapid igloo]

But were are using the Roman Version were all the gods suck even more

[jaunty night]

what she deserves and what she got is definitely not ideal

[hexed steeple]

which means I was right five years in advance

[high steeple]

Megaera is old enough to have met Persephone prior to the events in the first game

[vapid igloo]

ya but she is immortal so it doesn't feel weird

[high steeple]

Arachne and Nemesis would get along well

[vapid igloo]

Greek Version she was turned into a Spider cause athen wanted to stop her from killing herself

[high steeple]

There‘s many greek versions

It all depends on who‘s the source

[hexed steeple]

I love how she’s now essentially the goddess of righteousness pettiness

[vapid igloo]

true.

[abstract knoll]

I just picked up a Pom of Power.
My only skill is Volcanic Flourish (Heroic, Lvl7) and Bridal Glow.
I can't level up Volcanic Flourish, it just offers me 90 gold.

can't it go higher?

[jaunty night]

feeling sorry for arachne is such a mortal thing to do, sheesh
/s

[vapid igloo]

Still though that poet is the reason for the stories were Medusa and Scylla were turned into monsters rather than just being them out right

Athena was genuinely impressed by Arachnes work but it directed mocking the gods which pissed her off. And ya dont moci the gods especially to their face

She was turned into a spider cause Athena wanted her to keep weaving

[thick bronze]

how to undo bad ending??

[high steeple]

There‘s a bad ending?

[thick bronze]

im playing as the time king

but someone said its just a cutscene

[high steeple]

Just keep playing

[thick bronze]

yo why is this old man trying to find a little girl

[high steeple]

God forbid you play hide and seek with your grandchild

[warm dust]

why tf am i giving moros a bed, what's he gonna do there

it's out in the open facing the bar too like, who would sleep there

[rose canyon]

Bro is asking for Trouble

[high steeple]

A recliner is a type of seat

[warm dust]

https://imgur.com/a/mlFPPgS

[stark gull]

a couple of questions:

1. Are the Blades' omega an automatic backstab (assuming the enemy is facing you when you execute it)?

2. Am I correct in understanding that there’s no bounties at fear level 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, etc..?

[high steeple]

There‘s a headrest portion to it meant for your back

[next cargo]

well doesn't it go 1,2,4,8 etc

16 fear on the surface will be difficult

[dry pebble]

I got the same question for the bounties

[still dagger]

man, rivals oath doesn't mess around. rival hecate can make me lose a run

[hasty ocean]

Hecate: tutorial boss

Rivals Hecate: early game gatekeeper

[next cargo]

her arena is small and her attacks are quite damaging

[warm dust]

i can't play without rivals 4 now, it's way too much fun

[dry pebble]

rival cyclops is horror aswell

[hasty ocean]

plus getting good at Rivals 4 is 12 Fear for cheap. that means I can run the other fun Vows like Menace or Fangs and still get to 20 Fear for the bounties

[naive torrent]

I am having trouble with rival hecate when trying judgement arcana any tips

[high steeple]

Try leveling up the arcana cards for death and strength

[stark gull]

can it even go to fear 3?
I've only tried fear 1 and 2

[warm dust]

use a ranged attack

[jaunty night]

oh my GOD rivals eris is a pain

[light thicket]

5th run in a row without narcissus, Hades's RNG is really "fun" sometimes

[warm dust]

i think rivals eris is straight up easier than the regular version lmao, she doesn't snipe you anymore

[jaunty night]

how do i deal with the orbs

[idle crater]

range attack them

[warm dust]

range attack them

[jaunty night]

if i have like, the coat for example

[high steeple]

What weapon are you using?

[warm dust]

range attack them

[stark gull]

does anyone know the answer to my blade question lol

1. Are the Blades' omega an automatic backstab (assuming the enemy is facing you when you execute it)?

[high steeple]

Omega attack or special

[warm dust]

if you just tap ranged your missiles lock on the orbs

[still dagger]

atm I'm just gonna practice rivals instead of focusing on getting nightmare for a bit

[thick bronze]

so what exactly happens after they ride on the santa claus carriage?

[dry pebble]

I would say yes 90% of the time
Ive been spamming aspec of mel for quite some time

[stark gull]

omega attack sorry

[high steeple]

I don‘t think they count as backstab but also i barely use the omega atk

[still dagger]

in my experience it's always a backstab if you have aspect of mel. as long as the enemy is facing you

regarding changing room rewards, what do they change into? Just to confirm;

-Bone and Ashes turn into each other
-All boons turn into other boons (including Hermes and Selene?)
-What about Nectar?

[jaunty night]

bone, ash and nectar are the same category, if you have ash and bones, rerolling one turns it into nectar

a boon can also turn into a harts, or mana, or coins (except minibosses, those guarantee a boon)

[still dagger]

interesting

What's up with Chaos' infusion? It requires an element I haven't encountered yet

[unkempt zodiac]

it requires the element of duo boons

[light thicket]

There's a rule about which of the two gods whould i receive the boom to roll the combined boom?

[jaunty night]

every combination of 2 gods has its own duo boon (and requirements)

[granite wigeon]

on the end screen, what is that skull icon, next to damage taken from a sertain enemy

[still dagger]

check the offerings screen on each olympian. you'll each boon, and if htey have requirements it'll show you the requirements, including Infusions, Legendaries and Duos

[unkempt zodiac]

i think it refers to elite enemies

[granite wigeon]

aries legendary also seems very good lol, just did 32 heat underworld, idk how much it actually helped but feels strong

[unkempt zodiac]

its worse than it looks but still alr

[light thicket]

yeah, but i need a specific god between the two of them? like, the god with more requirement options, or both of them are valid in any ocasion?

[tranquil wren]

hm?

[still dagger]

I'm not sure I understand. But just to be clear, it isn't merely about having a boon from each olympian, you actually need specific boons

[granite wigeon]

you can just sustain 100% attack speed, not exacly double damage but i think is not insignificant, and also you just cant run out of mana

[unkempt zodiac]

ya its not bad i mean it is still a legendary for a reason

[granite wigeon]

dashing with the speed boost also feels pretty weird, running in one direction it feels like the sprint is as fast as the dash lmao, maybe slightly slower, the screen maybe jumps ever so slightly

[unkempt zodiac]

it used to be utterly awful before they capped it

you could get to absurd speeds and would just be impossible to control in long fights

it was funny but also killed me so much

[light thicket]

Yes, i understand that part, i need specific boons for each combined boom. The question is: once i've met each god's requirements for a given boom, does it matter which god i meet along the way, or both of them are valid towards giving me the combined boom?

[granite wigeon]

i remember thinking aries was really bad on reliease, i didnt play with him much so i really only have a first impression, but i am a big fan now

[still dagger]

oh. Yeah either of them will work

[granite wigeon]

is there no way to wake hypnos

ive done dream vapor twice i think, once during a previous patch and one after release

[unkempt zodiac]

you can, just gotta keep going to medea

[granite wigeon]

coolbeans

[spice orbit]

I’m low-key annoyed rn, my controller is lagging my game

[still dagger]

what are the easiest oaths to deal with? I started out with 1 Time and 1 Menace, and Rivals if I can. But what else?

[spice orbit]

I have tried adjusting the settings and everything

[granite wigeon]

i think the one that gives enemies form later areas is pretty trivial

[devout cairn]

Shadow

[granite wigeon]

time is also free fear

[still dagger]

oh yeah, shadow seems easy

[still dagger]

yeah, that's Menace. I;ll upgrade it

[devout cairn]

vow of return, fangs

[hasty ocean]

Return is free but so annoying lol

[granite wigeon]

fangs is alot of heat for not that bad

hubris is also free

[thick bronze]

when is hades 3 coming out?

[devout cairn]

i like wards but it depends on the weapon/build

[granite wigeon]

hords and grit also arent that bad

[hasty ocean]

Hordes is scarier than it seems, it's basically a multiplier on every other Vow that buffs enemies

[granite wigeon]

im gon do the 24 heat surface now for the statue, does anyone wana suggest a thanatos build

i just unlocked jewled pom, maybe i will just do the run with that to level itup lol

[devout cairn]

i had fun with than going all in on Ares

i still dont like ares that much though, not even sure if that was a good build

but it had a lot of attack speed

[granite wigeon]

i used demeter last time i used it