h2-discussion

[sharp cosmos]

Probably in the order on the bottom of your screen, from right to left

[craggy totem]

Came here to ask this, glad someone else did first (the answer was "no"). Sigh! This serves me right for relying too hard on one hex!

[thorny adder]

You can’t reroll Selene or hammers. Everything else is fair game

[sharp cosmos]

Not Echo, Arachne, Icarus, Medea, Circe, nor Narcissus offerings tho

[thorny adder]

I forgot about NPC’s lol

But non-Olympian NPC’s can’t be rerolled either

[velvet cave]

Medea and Icarus also can’t be rerolled

[rose canyon]

supergiant did too

[craggy totem]

So it's just the Olympian gods, gotcha. TBF I think the wording suggested that, I just saw "boon" and misremembered.

[velvet cave]

Or Circe

[thorny adder]

And Hades doesn’t count as an Olympian

[sharp cosmos]

And Hades, who's not an olympian

Also, it's Charon's wells, but not Hermes' shrine

[craggy totem]

Wait, that's weird, Charon ain't an Olympian. Inconsistency :O

[sharp cosmos]

And Hermes is

[thorny adder]

It’s a hold over from the previous game

You can reroll purging fountains too

[sharp cosmos]

Didn't charon well reroll refresh all three choices even when bought from in the first game ?

[thorny adder]

Yes

[craggy totem]

I guess I will simply have to brave the ||father of all monsters|| fight without my favorite handy dandy invincibility spell 😭

[still dagger]

AARGH! I was clobbering prometheus! And then he did his 2nd telegraph attack with the mobs there!

[thorny adder]

They leave very soon after he jumps into the air, so just focus on dodging them and it becomes like normal

[still dagger]

It was the run! I'm sure I was going to beat typhon

[upper rover]

Does the tooth keepsake disable the strength arcana?

[unreal walrus]

Any italian Hades 2 fans here???

[sharp cosmos]

Any DD disables it. Athena, Chaos, Toula, Narcissus, Tooth, Doom, you name it

[crude dragon]

Yep, just like running Toula

[cursive shadow]

Okay, I am trying to trigger the born to win prophecy.

I am just carrying the keepsake with me at this point. Any suggestions?

[snow elk]

[sharp cosmos]

That the chaos one, right ?

[cursive shadow]

Yep

[sharp cosmos]

Then go in the underworld rather than the surface, and if you're hellbent in trying to trigger it, reroll charon's wells until Ixion's Gate appears

[cursive shadow]

Good to know

[sharp cosmos]

Also, once the dialogue has triggered, there's no need to go to Chaos for this run

[cursive shadow]

I've gotten a little bit of dialogue last run. I also need to establish bonds with 3 more characters. ||Heracles, Circe, and Athena||

[sharp cosmos]

You'll need to ||activate Vow of Rivals 3 on the Surface to finish Heracles' relationship||

[cursive shadow]

I did that a few times. I guess I should just leave it on?

[sharp cosmos]

After that you need to encounter them naturally. I dunno if it's only on ||Ephyrea|| or if ||Olympus|| works too

[rose canyon]

is it only activating it? not winning?

[sharp cosmos]

Dunno about that 😅
I've activated it since unlocking it and have not taken it off since

[minor stirrup]

OMG the ||daemonic form of Toula|| is so friggin adorable [Epilogue spoiler]

[sharp cosmos]

I love the fact that ||Zagreus tells Meli there's no need for Ambrosia nor Nectar, as he's given up his keepsake, and then the book of shadows just display about a bajillion hearts||

[faint phoenix]

i saw a bug, where can i send it?

[sharp cosmos]

[faint phoenix]

i basically had 1005hp, in start of a chaos trial, and 650 mana

[sharp cosmos]

Not a bug, that's the easier chaos trials for you

[faint phoenix]

oh okay, my bad haha

that was my second trial, in first one i had 30hp so i thought maybe somethings are wrong

[wispy storm]

Chat does the new post-ending keepsake ||bejwelled pom deactivate if you take selene's keepsake after? also i'm hopefully correctly assuming bejwelled pom lasts the whole run thereafter same as hecate's||

[buoyant matrix]

no because selene isn't an olympian

and yes it lasts the whole run

[sharp cosmos]

Selene does not count as an olympian

And yes, it's the whole run, making it a very nice starting keepsake

[wispy storm]

awesome great!

[jaunty basin]

the solid 5050 between starting ||pom or calling card to max buff an early boon||

[buoyant matrix]

||pom|| better

[sharp cosmos]

I'd say your first option is better overall, allowing you to get more levels for the non starting boon

[jaunty basin]

this is true but I did want maxed out nimble limbs and only saw it during ephyra

and thus wasn't allowed to max it

[tawdry owl]

somehow I'm disappointed only managing to score sub 9 min on underworld with medea

[rose canyon]

what is the sword of the night prophecy

[wooden basin]

is the ||pom keepsake|| retro active?

[sharp cosmos]

No.

[bitter ivy]

||rival hecate is my favorite boss in the game||

[wooden basin]

yeah then starting with it is better, bcs the effect stays even if you switch it

[dire smelt]

Is ||Sky Fall|| Hex bugged atm? I simply can't seem to get it since v1.0, and I need it in order to complete one of my last minor prophecies.

[trim tulip]

||Aspect of Selene|| exclusive hex

[sharp cosmos]

Perhaps I've judged Howling Soul too harshly.
Still sucks that it can home into "allied" ennemies & the homing's still meh, but it sticking to moving ennemies does wonder against Chronos

[stone maple]

i just came up with a powerful spell i would cast if i was Mel.
using a certain metalic droplet, i'd create a quicksilver clone of Hermes, and name him Mercury.
helps lessen his work load and let's him be in 4 places at once (cause he's already constantly at 2 places at once)

[wintry mantle]

honestly, on some level i wish gale only activated his ability during a guardian fight

[wooden basin]

archana free lovers

[wintry mantle]

i havent upgraded it

[final token]

I got all the achievements !

[bitter ivy]

time to do underworld fear 16

[sharp cosmos]

Congrats ! :D

[bitter ivy]

aspect of charon is my favorite weapon

[sharp cosmos]

The roman mythology incident

[rose canyon]

Fire

[stone maple]

Honestly would not be surprised if a 3rd game somehow became "Roman Mythology has arrived and we have to fight our counterparts"

[drowsy crest]

is it impossible to get Night Bloom from Selene in the first room? I've altered fate and reset like 40 times and haven't seen it once

[sharp cosmos]

From what I've gathered from lurking here, it seems that supergiant games wants to move on from the Hades series

[rose canyon]

Hades I, Hades II, and Pluto

[stone maple]

which is fully understandable, time for something wholey different-

"Helheim"

-# kidding ofcourse.

[rose canyon]

Get god of war'd

[wintry mantle]

i forgot to take gorgon amulet instead of knucklebones

[stone maple]

good point, maybe we need to go to Egypt first.

[sharp cosmos]

My brain's so cooked I see go to egypt I thought of Stardust Crusaders

[jaunty basin]

steel ball run

[stone maple]

an official JoJo's game by Supergiant would go hard tbh

[jaunty basin]

ew

[wintry mantle]

"Next thing your going to say is 'Stardust Crusaders is awesome" lmao

[sharp cosmos]

I don't think so myself.
What makes an excellent supergiant games is them insuffling life and so much personnality in their characters, and Jojo already has ultra defined characters.
Besides, the psychedelic coloring induced by the anime would do terribly with their artstyle

[wintry mantle]

I think id actually die seeing those styles combined

[still dagger]

I gave Medea the b||oilted tears and she gave me the incantation, but it's not at cauldron. is it used in Tartarus?||

[sharp cosmos]

Can you maybe interact with her cauldron ?

I dunno, haven't reached that point yet, it's a guess

[rose canyon]

I mean, Aspect of Anubis is a thing

[stone maple]

fair points, i do wonder what they'll come up with next, i personally make the mistake of thinking that combining 2 things i like will only result in something good allot.
like Stardew Valley and Hades

[stone maple]

beowulf, lucifer, allot of aspects from outside greece

[rose canyon]

Lucifer game pls

[sharp cosmos]

Ok, Stardew Valley and Hades where you play as Persephone and just grow your lil' garden of Poms sounds nice

[rose canyon]

I want to see what kind of guy is using an angelic ray beam

[simple sierra]

tbh i think all the hidden aspects are outside of greece no?

[rose canyon]

The word is "laser". I may be dumb

[sharp cosmos]

Maybe, or maybe you just forgot a word and don't need to be harsh on yourself

[stone maple]

omg, Persephone and Hades on retirement/vacation, living a cozy life together

[wet otter]

I accidentally picked up that ||athena boon where you get the death defiance but loose all magick||, is there a workaround? it made it sound like it only primed a little bit of magick

[hardy badger]

Is skull hidden aspect supposed to have an internal cooldown on Omega special? After it comes back to me I can hold special to go into a "charging" stance but no magick meter appears above my head and when I release it just uses normal special

[simple sierra]

unfortunately no way to undo it unless you get lucky at a blood fountain and sell it or just collect enough max mana

[bitter ivy]

||its really funny you can just ignore chronos when he wants to talk in the area between erebus and oceanus||

[hardy badger]

Get more max magic. You don't lose all, the boon description says how much (150 at common I believe)

[sharp cosmos]

Get more than 150 max magicka + whatever you primed beforehand

[wet otter]

OHHH thank you so much

[simple sierra]

is this in the testing area? iirc the special is quite costly so you can only really afford to get a single one off in there anyways without rergen

[sharp cosmos]

I think it has one regardless, because I'm not able to launch it back to back with valkyrie form

[thorny adder]

Yes. It’s all omegas that have a “cooldown”

Mostly because the regular attack for that is much better when there isn’t an omega in the mix

[hardy badger]

Huhn? If you're out of mana it would show different. But no I have enough mana

[hardy badger]

Oh I'm dumb, Valkyrie disables Omegas. I guess I thought it only disabled Omega attack

[wintry mantle]

alsi i just learned of a cool af reaction between chronos and selenes slow down

[heavy glen]

the first time i did that he went "ahem.' and wouldn't let me pass until i talked to him

[wintry mantle]

if you activate your slow down as your slowed down and you have the ranged attack destruction upgrade both slowdowns just cancel and the field is set to null

[sharp cosmos]

I have to choose between going to Chaos, for, well, their buffs, or furthering relations with arachne.... What a struggle

[scarlet prairie]

Archne 100% of the time.

[drifting basin]

hey question is my save bugged, do i just need to be patient, or am i doing something wrong? (hidden aspects) || ive been trying to unlock the last 3 hidden aspects, but none of the characters will give me the waking phrase. i have every aspect unlocked, i have one aspect at level 5, and ive unlocked all the hidden aspects i currently have. ive talked to medea about 20 times since doing this, and she still wont give me the waking phrase - moros as well, but he has no dialogue at all for me at this point, and i still cant get that damn phrase. are they progression locked? do i need to beat a certain boss or perform a certain incantation? ive been trying for hours and im still out of luck||

[sharp cosmos]

I did that to progress the story, but when it won't matter, then it'll be chaos 100%

[sharp cosmos]

Did you reach the appropriate npc with the weapon they have an aspect of ?

[drifting basin]

Yes.

[undone onyx]

||which aspects do you have maxed? the melinoe ones don't count||

[thorny adder]

It has to be a non-Mel aspect that’s level 5

[drifting basin]

||oh they dont? it worked for the axe. guess thats what it is tho||

[thorny adder]

The requirement changed from EA to 1.0, so maybe that’s what happened

[drifting basin]

ahhhh yeah thatd do it

thanks yall!

[dull spindle]

Is there any difference in the 2 paths of Olympus? I see a glowing circle on the ground for one and then a door for another

[sharp cosmos]

Yes, the pad makes you fly and then crash on ennemies
But that's all

[unreal temple]

Am I crazy for finding rivals Escila harder than Rivals Prometheus

[devout cairn]

hell yeah got Rivals Chronos || that 3rd phase is insane, or atleast it looked like it I don't think I had much time to learn ||

[dull spindle]

Prometheus has been the hardest in the game for me

[trim tulip]

Rivals Scylla is genuinely one of the hardest bosses lmao

[unreal temple]

I was inclined to agree until I fought rivals Escila

There's just a lot of stuff going on at once in EM Escila

[jolly wing]

Via Charon's Obol points, is it more important to order Moon Dust or Nightmare early on? I can order either or now by Night 12.

[dull spindle]

Idk what the rivals stuff os yet but im assuming its just bosses that are harder

[unreal temple]

Without a doubt, maybe when I get the hang of it it'll ease up a bit but rn I think it's the biggest wall on my runs

[trim tulip]

Yep. It's the equivalent of extreme measures from the first game

[dull spindle]

Prometheus just does so much damage he’s killed me 3 times I had 3 death deficiencies and i finally got him

[sharp cosmos]

Moon dust imo, Nightmares piles up by the ton if you do the testaments regularly, and upgraded arcana is always useful

[trim tulip]

Yeah probably. I beat her a bunch of times but I always gotta focus for that fight. There's so much happening on screen

[unreal temple]

Like there's just so much going on during that fight I don't know what to do most of the time lmao

Who do you think is the best focus on that fight

[dull spindle]

I usually kill the drummer first

[tranquil wren]

on regular scylla I go for drummer first as well

[unreal temple]

Drummer is the absolute focus on the normal fight but on rivals, well, you'll see

[tranquil wren]

but on rivals I go for charybdis

btw this slowmode is a bit ridiculous

[trim tulip]

Roxy, the drummer. But I also want to focus the two tentacles next to her, because getting on top of her triggers the water trap.
The drummer has annoying aoes specially during the featured artist phase.
After that, I prefer to finish off ||Charybdis|| because she's the second most annoying thing.

[sharp cosmos]

Rivals I tend to focus the drummer, but more often than not it's about doing as much damage to anything that's near me before I need to flee

[devout cairn]

I kill one tentacle and go for drummer

[tranquil wren]

I just hate the water spouts near Roxy in Rivals

[dull spindle]

I might need to watch a guide on Prometheus before I get to him again so I’m not getting hit as much

[devout cairn]

prometheus as you first start is good to just do a hit and run strategy, after you learn his tells you will be much more comfortable with each animation, they do kinda look all very similar in the beginning

[unreal temple]

Ye sounds about right, however the water trap makes it pretty hard I think, I kinda kite Roxy whenever possible

[dull spindle]

That move where he like does the wave of fire in one direction I can never dodge I have to like delay it

[unreal temple]

This is kinda my approach lol

[dull spindle]

He’s killed me like 4 times and the 5th time I beat him but he killed me 3 more times in the process

[tranquil wren]

it's a lot easier if you're across the arena when he does that

[devout cairn]

I remember it being so tricky at the start but now it's one of his moves that I never get hit by, it has the biggest windup

[trim tulip]

He always does that after a spin kick. Pay attention to his animations, because he has pretty clear tells once you can recognize every attack.

[thorny adder]

I usually just facetank him since I’m usually at 250+ hp…

Especially when I have a shredder build going

[dull spindle]

I’m gonna watch a video or something and learn his moveset real quick

And then I didn’t even make it past that yet i fought a miniboss on the area after him and died

[sharp cosmos]

Talos is so much better now

The twin shield horizontal throw was hellish before the update

[unreal temple]

Last time I've played was back in the summit patch of early access but since then it seems that Prometheus is a bit more forgiving right now, as in, after attacking he gives you a bit of a longer window to damage him

[devout cairn]

Can I just say how much of a carry Uncanny Fortitude has been on my first attempts at Rivals bosses? This thing on a heavy mana build is absolutely insane, specially with Strength

would've died otherwise to rivals chronos and typhon

[limpid folio]

prometheus' simon says attack feels so fun to me atm

[lilac peak]

Been away for most of the year. Obviously I am somewhat out of the loop.

...Did they move the Rearregent Sensing and the Fields navigation Incantations later in Nights? Whyever the Hades for?

If there is something I did not need more of, it was running around wasting time trying to find stuff in the Fields while the timer runs down. Or forget to pick up stuff after combat because the game does not feel like reminding me of them.

[limpid folio]

havent tried it with rivals but its pretty manageable while not being braindead

[unreal temple]

I lock in like crazy whenever he pulls of the simon says

[trim tulip]

...No? I played a new save file for a bit and I got those two very quickly.

[unreal temple]

With rivals I basically use pheripheral vision

[sharp cosmos]

I swear to all the gods below and above narcissus, gimme that darned DD and get on with it

[limpid folio]

how do you guys memorize the order

[devout cairn]

with rivals || I kill Heracles before he does the second memory game ||

[sharp cosmos]

Short term memory ?

[lime timber]

Howdy folks, I have a question about something we were discussing yesterday

[devout cairn]

i repeat the 2nd one outloud

[tranquil wren]

first one is only three waves. the second one I just avoid the first one and dodge through the rest

[limpid folio]

ik, but mentally do you register it with "top, middle, bottom" "1, 2, 3" or smth else

[tidal cliff]

Ares legendary+ aspect of hel = minigun build

[unreal temple]

My strat for memorizing it is to ignore the first pattern, as in, if the first safe spot is middle, I position myself in the middle and forget about it, then memorize the rest with top mid bottom in my brain

[lime timber]

So someone was complaining about there being an achievement for clearing the game with all weapons yesterday, and I was wondering if you needed to beat both final bosses or just one/Chronos to get it

[frozen kestrel]

Either

[lime timber]

Ah perfect

[limpid folio]

icic

[nova oar]

Was someone really complaining about that?

[lilac peak]

Well, the Fields navigation used to be there when the Cauldron first opened. In this new Save, it, well, is not.
Rearregent Sensing always came a bit later, but even that feels like it seems a bit delayed, but I may be mistaken about that.

Whatever the case, do not really see the point of them not being present the moment the Cauldron opens. And I feedbacked such, but apparently that never got implemented and I can not exactly feedback that now either. :b

[lime timber]

I'm halfway there and I'm working on getting the rest bc a hidden aspect needs SO much shadow lmao

[unreal temple]

Typically I don't do that, I kinda just keep Heracles on my peripheral vision while focusing on the memory game

[lime timber]

Yeah bc they didn't know about it beforehand, they wanted the game to tell them earlier, which is kinda fair but they also complained a lot so

[unreal temple]

And sort of just dash his attacks by instinct

[devout cairn]

that's fine too, killing him is just very easy. Heracles feels a bit undertuned

[nova oar]

Yeah typical, i'm gonna go find the conversation

[tranquil wren]

but the prophecy only unlocks once you've gotten all aspects. doesn't make much sense to show it to you before

[lime timber]

Lol yeah idk

[limpid folio]

idk if they changed it since the last patch, but heracles felt "extra" more than he felt undertuned imo

[unreal temple]

Heracles is kinda annoying to kill first because he just loves to spam AoE and it's hard to damage him with melee stuff

[limpid folio]

like he wasnt in the right fight

he and prometheus just dont rly have great synergy as a dual boss i think

[naive torrent]

What situations is aspect of nurgles omega special good in ? Is it faster than omega attack?

[sharp cosmos]

Aspect of Nurgle ?

[tranquil wren]

I just use it to charge up beserk

[devout cairn]

they do not, lowered my opinion of both

[nova oar]

None

[merry whale]

idk i like prom and heracles lol

[limpid folio]

a single combo attack with the two would have been so cool actually

[sharp cosmos]

I kinda dislike prom because he feels overly edgy, keeping his plans to himself yet telling you everything going's according to plan

[limpid folio]

i love their dynamic but the fight itself feels kinda whatever i think

[lime timber]

Also I have to say that I am a true believer in the ||Anubis|| hidden aspect, it's peak

[limpid folio]

prom keeping his plans to himself would have been fine if they actually did smth cool with the said plans

[heavy glen]

if Hypnos is asleep the whole time and presumably can't do his job, is no one else able to sleep?

[sharp cosmos]

I mean... No need to believe in one of the strongest aspects of the game, yeah

[tawny wave]

Hmm... So I'm new here... And while I've made some good progress in the game... It seems spoilers abound here in this chat... Is there a less-spoilery chat on this discord or should I avoid the place altogether until I've done more in game?

[tranquil wren]

I don't think he's edgy at all, the VA does a great performance in making him feel mad

[limpid folio]

#h2-for-new-players

[sharp cosmos]

#h2-for-new-players just below

[trim tulip]

*if they actually did something with said plans

[merry whale]

tru

[lime timber]

It doesn't matter if it's super powerful, I just think it's neat :)

[limpid folio]

well they did! problem is it was all tell dont show

[devout cairn]

i'd be edgy too if i was him, the gods suck

[tranquil wren]

I mean Prom's plan is just training Mel to get stronger to fight Typhon, like Hecate

[limpid folio]

is it rly

[tranquil wren]

that's what I've always thought

[naive torrent]

Honestly eris is more evil than typhon

[devout cairn]

mankind for life

[limpid folio]

this is the first time im seeing this specific interpretation

[sharp cosmos]

No ? Not at all ?

[unreal temple]

I mean he's not edgy just overly mad, I probably would too if an eagle ate my liver for eons

[trim tulip]

I like Prom but I dislike the "I can see the future ooooh but I won't tell you a thing" character archetype

[tranquil wren]

what other interpretation could there have been? he's a region boss, he's not gonna end the story for you

[lime timber]

I wish there was something you could use nectar for in the late gamez I have way too much and nothing to use it for

[limpid folio]

the common take about his plan was that meli "the agent of change" would serve as a way to guarantee a better future for mortals (half of the roster that isnt just olympians is a victim of the gods)

[jolly wing]

Can you purchase Nightmare and Moon Dust from Surface's Final Shop? I'm about to start my full Surface run.

[tawny wave]

Gotcha, thanks. I wouldn't necessarily call myself a new player but I guess I see now the definition given here, haha.

[thorny adder]

I like to think he’s just bluffing and doesn’t want Mel or anyone to know he can’t actually see the future

[limpid folio]

he holds mortals very dear and still hates the gods, so him fighting knowing what the future would hold was just the gods deciding to be "slightly nicer" feels very out of character

[trim tulip]

That's my headcanon now ty very much

[hardy badger]

Imo nightmare, moon dust is much much cheaper to buy via bones. But ymmv

[tranquil wren]

like this for example https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584505260068962304/1424483771390103572/20082C1.JPG?ex=68e41d64&is=68e2cbe4&hm=3dab32a574de782f786ece01d10195c4df914a6f27d554db05e9a7f157b3e868&

the slowmode and lack of embeds is kinda infuriating I'm ngl

[trim tulip]

Yep, those can appear sometimes.

[limpid folio]

im sure it was part of his plan, but i rly dont believe this was everything

[pulsar glacier]

well damn lol
I thought the Apollo boon "attacks have a chance to hit 2-times" with the Aspect of Anubis Staff would make it so that the double chance applies to the dots inside the circle, cause.. well, why would anyone want the circle itself to be triggered twice after another, thats a nerf.
TURNS OUT yeah, the chance applies to the circle, not the damage

[devout cairn]

and the censors 💀 pls let us be free mods

[hardy badger]

A sequence of 123

[tranquil wren]

I mean this is all it seems to be: ||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584505260068962304/1424484146402693160/20844C1.JPG?ex=68e41dbe&is=68e2cc3e&hm=a5681514a0d752d34e913a2d7fda4f202d25557ec76b883875db5b064a5b9718&||

[limpid folio]

his main goal was probably just helping mortals as much as he could

[hidden basin]

man i found a funny bug that i sadly could not record, bummer

[hardy badger]

Top middle bottom is too many syllables

[tranquil wren]

this too actually. he gets mel to think differently about dora

[limpid folio]

i tend to go with abc, way quicker and easier to memorize

[tranquil wren]

oh huh that's actually peak. I'll try that for the second wave attack

[limpid folio]

its very hard to miss a single dodge that way, unless you have enemies disrupting you

[hollow lily]

GOOD GOD TOULA IS UTTERLY USELESS

[dire smelt]

well, duh. thx a lot. forgot abt that

[sharp cosmos]

Don't talk smack about my best girl !

[tranquil wren]

you get a whole extra life and you can upgrade how much life is restored

[limpid folio]

toula is good if you die a lot 💔

[devout cairn]

true

[limpid folio]

if you dont she rly doesnt do anything

[hardy badger]

B C sound too similar (same vowel sound) so higher risk of confusion)

[hollow lily]

im sorry her DD is useless and the fact that she runs off to the edge of the map after every attack makes her an inconveniance at best and an annoyance most of the time

[devout cairn]

so true

[limpid folio]

in the heat of the moment its way harder to mix them together imo

[tranquil wren]

toula's death defiance is a very good bonus life ngl

[hardy badger]

Other way around? In the heat it's easy to forget if I said B or C

[devout cairn]

people are just blinded by the fact that she's a cat to see how lame that familar is!

[tranquil wren]

but I usually use gale for the dodges

[limpid folio]

it is, the problem is that the bonus life matter less the more you play (and as you improve)

[hollow lily]

if i cant do the job with 3 DDs i dont deserve to finish the room dawg

[tranquil wren]

true, but I needed it for rivals chronos

[limpid folio]

im sure it varies from person to person, agree to disagree

[devout cairn]

what is it fully upgraded? 60?

[hollow lily]

and if i wanted a companion that does damage without giving me extra HP id rather take raki

[hardy badger]

Yeah I'm not arguing just giving my experience

[tranquil wren]

I think so yeah

[limpid folio]

this is more intuitive for me and im sure theres other methods

[sharp cosmos]

80 when fully

[hollow lily]

60hp for a dd???? utterly uselss

[hardy badger]

I also used 123 for Maven game in PoE

[devout cairn]

80 is fine, I still won't use Toula

[tranquil wren]

lmao I think you're just bitter

[naive torrent]

Charibdis should play an instrument imagine how cool it would be if it had like 8 saxophones during the ||scilla boss fight||

[hollow lily]

eyhh. still bad compared to a regular dd

[hardy badger]

?? That's like how much a regular DD gives. Barely less

[tranquil wren]

but it's not meant to be a regular DD

[hollow lily]

nah dawg a DD is % based

[limpid folio]

icic

[sharp cosmos]

Honestly, I like her a lot for the damage in early in the run. 99 is usually enough to os enemies in erebus, and when fully upgraded it's 10 attacks per activation.

[hardy badger]

Right ... How much hp do you have

[hollow lily]

regular DDs depend on how high ur health is

[devout cairn]

Toula could have a full heal DD I'd still hate her for that stupid atack gimmick

[hardy badger]

With like 180-200 DD is giving you 72-80

[hollow lily]

rn 135. just lost 3dds on poly in my 15 fear run. skill issue on my part hes rivaled and i forgot some of his movesets

[hardy badger]

So toula gives MORE than a DD right now

[tranquil wren]

don't try and trigger the attack too much, it'll happen on it's own naturally when you're sprinting around the arenas

[hollow lily]

scratch last. 185hp. i reverted back to a tank builld

[tranquil wren]

but anyway gale has got to be the best familiar I think

[bitter ivy]

fear 16 got hands

[heavy glen]

his actual plan is ||to convince chronos to get rid of the fates so they take a break from weaving, decide they like it, and let everyone decide their own fates which will bring about an age of mortals||

[prisma monolith]

just a quick note, if you have selene, the first moondrop you find will still be the moondrop icon, despite being a path of stars

[tranquil wren]

is that epilogue spoilers

[heavy glen]

yes

[nova oar]

What's your vow setup

[tranquil wren]

ah, I've not gotten it yet
I HATE SLOWMODE

[heavy glen]

sort of, a lot of it's implied

[slim pike]

Special exception, yes, so you get the selene dialogue

[prisma monolith]

yeah i assumed

[heavy glen]

slowmode?

[prisma monolith]

on discord, 15 secs between messages

[tranquil wren]

yea, a lot of H2 story is implied and it's kinda staggering to see how many people just miss things

[stable tinsel]

So I got to the last fight, and I was on the last bit of dialogue before the boss fight. I had been playing for two hours so I went to wash. When I came back, I was in the starting zone. What the hell happened?

[jolly wing]

If you found Hermes as a starting boon on the Surface, which is more important? Getting Quick Buck or spend a reroll to get Travel Deal.

[bitter ivy]

rivals 3 fangs 2 and frenzy 1 because i like to suffer

[tranquil wren]

bruh that's the hardest 16 fear setup I've seen

[prisma monolith]

paused after the conversation and boss said haha no and sent you home is my guess

[sharp cosmos]

Supposedly it's to fight against spammers bots, but they just plaster their scam once per channel on every channel and that's it.

[bitter ivy]

its kinda fun tho

[stable tinsel]

I didn't pause.

[sharp cosmos]

I'd say Quick Buck is better

[prisma monolith]

idk then

[stable tinsel]

Normally for dialogue it's like dialogue concludes and I press enter and then we proceed

[tranquil wren]

wait really? I thought it was because of an influx of new players, the chat would get filled really quickly

[wicked mason]

hi is there a channel to share fanart i made of H2?

[stable tinsel]

I didn't realize it would just automatically start. It was my best build too. Sigh.

[tranquil wren]

#fan-works

[spice sedge]

Hi question, dont you guys think that melinoe looks SUPER PRETTY in some splasharts but super ugly in other splasharts like one is 10/10 and the other...like a 3/10

[nova oar]

People just don't talk to the npc's ever

[prisma monolith]

do you have auto advance dialogue option on?

[bitter ivy]

i always talk to everyone when i die it makes dying less bad

[stuck lagoon]

how do you defend the like when chronos sends out some hourglasses and like they're connected by green lines

[spice sedge]

idlove to see it

[prisma monolith]

thats kinda like the main premise of the game, yes

[tranquil wren]

gooner 🫵

[nova oar]

You kill the hourglasses

[stable tinsel]

Nope.

[prisma monolith]

kill the hourglasses

[spice sedge]

no no no, im talking about face here man

[wicked mason]

just shared it in fanarts

[bitter ivy]

i can tell

[devout cairn]

don't know if this is a hot take but I don't like the hotsprings portraits very much

[wispy wren]

Which boons gives you manna back after attack and special?

[prisma monolith]

idk bro, sorry. your cat walked over the keyboard/controller? who knows what happened

[wicked mason]

Hestia's

[nova oar]

Cardiovascular gain

[lime timber]

Hestia's

[bitter ivy]

i'm going to try again

[wispy wren]

Yeah, thanks guys. I need this for pistol build

[prisma monolith]

technically ares' too

[wicked mason]

its the best one

[stable tinsel]

I don't have any pets. I am the only resident of my apartment. It's a mystery. And a frustrating one

[jolly wing]

How come? Is there not a lot of gold on the Surface?

[spice sedge]

I only saw Melinoe, Nemesis and Hécate

[stable tinsel]

I had such a good build too 🙁 So frustrating. I will probably give the game a break for a while

[prisma monolith]

theres more on where to spend it

[sharp cosmos]

Hermes' Shrines don't benefit from Travel Deal, well, only the discount, and drain gold fast

[hearty fog]

If you rush-deliver items from Shrines another will take its place.

[nova oar]

Hermes shrines on debt hit hard

[stable tinsel]

Auto-advance dialogue isn't even in my options when I checked

[prisma monolith]

who knows what happened mate

[hearty fog]

Annoying that the discount only applies to the first expenditure on any given item in a Shrine, but Travel Deal does otherwise work.

[bitter ivy]

theres no changing it now

[prisma monolith]

^

[nova oar]

What even happened?

[bitter ivy]

nobody knows

[tranquil wren]

maybe you accidentally hit click or enter when you left and just didn't notice

[prisma monolith]

yeah many things couldve happened, even a bug

[tranquil wren]

I like the "accidentally hit forward" option as more realistic

[sharp cosmos]

That I didn't know, because I never rushed things.
Good to know ! But still, I'd say Quick Buck's better

[nova oar]

The boss dialogue auto finishes yeah

[hollow lily]

OMFG TOULA CAN YOU STOP BEING SO FCKING USELESS AND HELP ME WITH ERIS

[prisma monolith]

not really, no

[nova oar]

It always does for me

[tranquil wren]

skill issue. toula does her best

[bitter ivy]

i always have frinos

[jolly wing]

More on? Do you mean there are more shops on the surface?

[bitter ivy]

I like frogs

[nova oar]

Me too

[tranquil wren]

(btw it's not a good option to rely on any familiar for anything. they're just helpful bonuses during your runs)

[prisma monolith]

do you have auto advance dialogue?

@jolly wing yes

[nova oar]

Probably lmao

[prisma monolith]

especially toula

[bitter ivy]

frinos is very relyable in the hectate fight

[hollow lily]

im never taking toula again

[tranquil wren]

shrimply dodge the spell

[prisma monolith]

is that simple

[bitter ivy]

i can dodge the spell i just think its funny

[tranquil wren]

although is frinos good for rivals morph? it's a lot harder to avoid that one

[prisma monolith]

yes

[tranquil wren]

ah fair. still, I prefer gale

[prisma monolith]

he can eat it before it splits

[nova oar]

It's good, not needed tho you can still dodge it if the ball splits at the right time

[bitter ivy]

gale is nice too litterally free damage negation

[tranquil wren]

yea, his retaliation dmg is also pretty nice

or she? idk

[bitter ivy]

i dont know

[prisma monolith]

he

[jolly wing]

So you would prefer Travel Deal over Quick Buck when you find Hermes early on the Surface.

[prisma monolith]

yes, never a bad choice

like if i start with the extra 300 or ||granpa keepsake|| travel deal gets me more value

[plucky dew]

can i sacrifice a boon and then sacrifice it again to the god i gave up before?

[nova oar]

Nope

[wise ledge]

Somebody should draw an ent Hecate saying "WE ARE TREEEEE"

[nova oar]

The entwives have returned

[lime timber]

I don't get the aspect of Supay

It seems aggressively terrible

[devout cairn]

it's the autopilot aspect

just lean back and watch some netflix on your 2nd monitor

[nova oar]

It's one of the best rn

[lime timber]

How can it be autoplay if you still have to dodge lol

[wise ledge]

If you are stuck on the chaos trial, try using the antler, helped me immensely

[lime timber]

I haven't even tried the trial

[wintry mantle]

okay i got the thing for them, but its not an incant so tell me. how do i get godsent hexes?

[naive charm]

if i swap off the ||time piece|| do i keep the effect?

[bitter ivy]

I'm going to run judgement

[frozen kestrel]

just have a boon OR keepsake for the corresponding hex BEFORE getting your 2nd path of stars

[nova oar]

Get a selene hex, find the corresponding god

[wise ledge]

That trial is... Hard. You get into mourning fields with 30 hp. I've been stuck at it longer than on the great chaos below lol

[nova oar]

Yes

[wise ledge]

Yes, same with the other two keepsakes

[nova oar]

Go for pos infusion

[lime timber]

Oh god

[broken glen]

Every god has a specific hex that can be godsent with them. For example, Hera has night bloom, hestia has total eclipse, etcetera. If you have the specific god at any point (before or after you gain the hex) an upgrade will show up in your path of stars that you let you godsend it.

[wise ledge]

Nah, I already cleared it

[nova oar]

I think you get given pos in the trial, ion remember i only had to do it once

[nova oar]

Ah good

[wintry mantle]

...can i have a list?

[wise ledge]

Yeah, I noticed that it doesn't force a keepsake onto you, so I took the antler since you are on 30 hp anyway there. Carried me first try after tens of tries without it

[nova oar]

Go look at the wiki

[lime timber]

Really the most important thing to know is that you need to use the aspect of Selene for one of them

[sharp cosmos]

Heph is Wolf Howl
Zeus is Twilight Curse
Apollo is Lunar Ray
Demeter is Phase Shift
Poseidon is Moon Water
Hera is Night Bloom
Hestia is Total Eclipse
Ares is Sky Fall
Aphrodite is Dark Side

[wise ledge]

Supay is like the the parts I hate about torches made into the main mechanic. So ass.

[nova oar]

Supay is amazing and one of the best aspects rn

[lime timber]

I can't fathom how though lol, would you mind explaining please?

[wise ledge]

I honestly don't care about how powerful of an aspect it is when it feels like crap to play

[serene forge]

I mean just hard disagree, one of the most fun aspects once it starts shredding.

[broken glen]

Soup is either incredibly underwhelming or incredible depending on how it’s built

[wise ledge]

Just moving around and pressing omega from time to time is extremely boring

[serene forge]

Lol

[wintry mantle]

thanks, also side tangent ||i maxed out aspect of artemis. will the hidden arm of the l&o reveal itself sometime?||

[nova oar]

Just cause you're bad at a weapon doesn't mean it's a bad weapon

[sharp cosmos]

And they've said it's a boring weapon, not a bad one

[wise ledge]

Even if it shreds everything I would always prefer a bad build on a more interesting to play aspect

[wintry mantle]

honestly thats how i feel about the staff, its dreadfully boring for some reason

[sharp cosmos]

Ye, when you speak to ||Artemis during a run using LO||

[wintry mantle]

also how do the ||statues work? do i have to fully win the run or is it just kill the pact target and thats that?||

[hearty fog]

The Fear statues require finished runs, the Testaments on the Oath for Nightmare only require the specific boss.

[sharp cosmos]

You need to win on surface & underworld at the required fear displayed beneath the testament

[wintry mantle]

that is..intense. I know i can do it for underworld but the surface? that is...heavily unlikely

[devout cairn]

honestly underworld at high fear feels harder than surface

[sharp cosmos]

Practice makes perfect my lad

[normal pine]

vow doggy/chronos are harder to me than vow prome/typh

but vow prome is a pushover

[wintry mantle]

Typhons spawn and Typhon himself have remained to be my biggest hurdles

[normal pine]

you need to learn a couple of typhons specific moves and then it'll be smoother

[storm glen]

what??

[devout cairn]

he is

[normal pine]

I've never lost to that fight

[vast grove]

I THINK I JUST HAD SEX WITH MOROS????

[normal pine]

w

[hearty fog]

I wouldn't say he's a pushover, but he's got the lightest VoR addition, only Eris is really comparable.

[devout cairn]

congratz on the sex

[vast grove]

I DIDNT KNOW THEY DID THAT

[sharp cosmos]

i mean, greek mythology without sex is like, three words

[heavy glen]

have fun!

[normal pine]

how exactly does nyx make children

[devout cairn]

they do tend to randomly pop out children out of their heads too

[heavy glen]

asexual reproduction

[hearty fog]

I'd say "Very carefully," but Eris wrecks that idea.

[bitter ivy]

I dont like eris

[sharp cosmos]

I swear, a good 10% of the Mythos is "Zeus had sex. Hera was mad about it, and cursed the woman"

[devout cairn]

i like eris

[frosty flume]

That's how Zag was born!

In the real mythos not Hades lore

[kind badger]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-sex-pie-congrats-on-the-sex-you-had-sex-gif-22297870

[heavy glen]

well, in orphism anyways

aww. One story tells of a plague striking the city of Aonia, and the Oracle said to appease Hades and Persephone's anger they had to sacrifice two maidens. Menippe and Metioche, daughters of Orion, were chosen and solemnly accepted their fates, and Hades and Persephone took pity on them and turned them into comets instead.

[wintry mantle]

Rivals Hecate is...intense

[sharp cosmos]

Narcissus pls, it's the 5th run in the underworld tonight, I need your DD offering, just once for my prophecy

[nova oar]

It's certainly a step up from the first one

[hollow lily]

quick. black night banishment. does it make my fear level lower or does fear remain the same just the effect is nullified?

[nova oar]

The latter

[hollow lily]

who wants to fck doom????

[sharp cosmos]

Melinoe, apparently

[hollow lily]

fear remains same effect nullified?

[nova oar]

Yep

[hollow lily]

FLY HIGH BABYE

[simple sierra]

better to buy nightmare or stardust from the merchant regularly

[sharp cosmos]

I'd say neither, but if you really wish to spend your bones, stardust will have more value long term, as it can make some gifts and nightmare piles up if you do the testaments regularly

[simple sierra]

what'd be your go to buy?

[sharp cosmos]

nectar, ambrosia, a nice stock of the other 2 gifts (like 6-8) and then save up

[simple sierra]

realizing moon dust only costs 80 and all the making of moondust from stardust has been a waste lol

[sharp cosmos]

oh, not the broker, from charon

[simple sierra]

oh yeah I mean the broker

[sharp cosmos]

Oh, if that's a question for the broker, my answer stands

[simple sierra]

is there a reason why the moondust from stardust incant is so inefficient when comparing bone costs of the two materials?

[meager garden]

I tended to have excess stardust after going through all the chaos trials that I wanted to

[bleak zinc]

Idk where else to ask but is it possible to gather silver while ||re-taking trials of the pitch black stone? ||

[nova oar]

I don't think resources spawn in chaos trials

[prisma monolith]

they dont

[sharp cosmos]

Which is a damn shame when it comes to chaos above and below trials, because they're just fully randomized runs, but without ressources, making them way worse than classic runs

[deft agate]

Helloooo does anyone know how much fear you need to uncover the second gift of the veil??

[prisma monolith]

indeed, id love to play the chaos above and below but i also want resources

[sharp cosmos]

check the fear requirements below the testament on the oath menu

[woeful helm]

Il curious, before the 1.0 release, did people have access to the final bosses's etc? Im just curious

[prisma monolith]

yes

[simple sierra]

ye but no endings

[sharp cosmos]

We did, even in Rivals form

[prisma monolith]

just nothing after the boss

[deft agate]

Just completed those! They were actually pretty fun and I got REALLY lucky

[woeful helm]

Okay awesome! Thanks

[nova oar]

I really wish we could do a more custom randomised run, I think itd be really fun

[heavy glen]

nuts, i just wasted a hex on a statue cause i thought it was an enemy

[deft agate]

Each release rolled out new bosses though. Typhon only became available after the Ares patch etc

[prisma monolith]

theres a randomizer mod, im not sure if its been updated to 1.0

[simple sierra]

i stopped playing in EA after clearing prometheus cuz I wanted the rest of the game to be a surprise

omg just realizing your name's a chapel reference love it

[deft agate]

I kept playing every patch. I basically treated it like I was slowly climbing up and developing my skills with the game. Plus I liked finding bugs to report

[simple sierra]

in general EA/beta is my favourite time to be playing games yeah, especially smaller ones. This one I was anticipating a ton though so treated myself to a gap between EA and 1.0

[prisma monolith]

i dont usually play EA games, i do make exceptions if i know the devs, like sgg for example

[minor stirrup]

Okay Morrigan daggers is ludicrously fun

[prisma monolith]

And strong

[plucky dew]

do i just keep ||hades keepsake|| till the last region then swap to knucklebones?

[prisma monolith]

You keep the effect after swapping, just swap it zone 2

[sharp cosmos]

you don't have to, it stays up even after switching

[plucky dew]

thats crazy

[knotty moon]

who is the person he who labours for the gods?

and do i have to go surface or underworld?

[sharp cosmos]

I'd wager it's ||Heracles||, but I've maxxed my relationship with him and the objective isn't highlighted so I'm prolly wrong

[devout cairn]

it is || Heracles ||

[knotty moon]

do i have to do rivals to get him?

[devout cairn]

afaik yes

[knotty moon]

I already talked to him a bunch of times

[hollow lily]

yoooo i only lost a single DD to promotheus

[knotty moon]

ok, i will keep doing rivals then, thanks

[hollow lily]

it was cus of his 5 lane attack

[lime timber]

No! I haven't done phase 3 rivals and I got him

[devout cairn]

i was wrong then, or maybe there are multiple ways to get it

[prisma monolith]

No, he appears without rivals

[prisma monolith]

Rivals doesn't matter

He's just a random npc like nemesis or artemis

[tranquil wren]

I think rivals would actually hurt your chances of getting the necessary dialogue as now it will all be taken up by the rivals dialogue itself

[sharp cosmos]

Oh, fiftieth win in the underworld, how nice

most of them done with hordes 3, menace 2, shadow, fangs 2 and rivals 4 for a nice 25f. Not overly difficult, maximum chaos, and more bonking

[vagrant fractal]

just got my tushy handed to me by ||Zagreus.... bastard distracted me with his dashing looks and that awesome cape u___u||

[limpid python]

can you romance multiple characters at once? and does it have negative reprocussions?

[devout cairn]

yes and no

[limpid python]

much apreciated

[pale path]

Oh thanks. I've been holding off on giving another gift to Moros because I thought it might lock me out of romancing other characters.

[hollow lily]

i got sloppy with typhon im not so proud about this ngl. but with a build like this i couldve easily beaten 20 fear

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/759764126859001916/1424515280700440679/image.png?ex=68e43abd&is=68e2e93d&hm=4ea5ebe5d19ffefdae59520e733151e89ddb879da390d94de09cf7c8a2bb46c8&

[broken glen]

You got sloppy with Typhon???

Didn’t know he was a romance option

[hollow lily]

with that twisty ahh tongue of his

saw that

does anyone know a way to get rid of the cursor on screen? i want to screen record olympus and make it a wallpaper in wallpaper engine

[heavy glen]

this game made me really appreciate the aesthetic of nighttime more
there is nothing so pretty as spiderwebs and plants in the moonlight, dappled with dew

[wary garnet]

so ||aspect of nergal|| is what it feels like to do bsdm?

[broken glen]

what

[wary garnet]

is that weapon horribly bad on purpose or does it have a use lmao

[broken glen]

Nergal is great

[wary garnet]

wtf explain plz

[broken glen]

Put Apollo or Aphrodite on attack, go for whirlwinds or attack spam

I haven’t gotten much use out of special but others like it

[nova oar]

nergal is easy s tier

[wary garnet]

the slow ahh attack you mean, or the 4 hit whirlmill that forces you to do a slow ahh attack first

[carmine jasper]

nergal is easy to make broken

[prisma monolith]

Without rivals he's not there anyway, so it doesn't matter

[nova oar]

Omega charges instantly

[carmine jasper]

nergal IS broken

[wary garnet]

im doing the chaos trial with supposedly the best boons for it and its so hard

[broken glen]

Exceptional talent, psychic whirlwind, seething marauder…

[carmine jasper]

probably means you are not spacing correctly

[wary garnet]

im running away using freeze cast to be able to even attack

[carmine jasper]

i go 2 whole regions without taking damage all the time

[wary garnet]

i mean im not taking damage but its taking 10x more work out of me than any other weapon

[broken glen]

Nergal is one of the most brainless weapons for me 😭

[quaint pilot]

Dear Supergiant games,

I honestly was skeptical when Hades 2 was announced since Hades is one of my all time favorite rougelikes since how approachable and how challenging it is with an inclusive design philosophy behind. When many months ago EA was launched, obviously I've jumped in immediately and followed through the major milestones to discover where is it coming from and where is it going. I was daunted in the end with 1.0 how really good it is, how much better than Hades is, how many meta gameplays are there even.... I loved every sweaty hour of it, loved every nice little detail and amazing storytelling, I loved all the little funny things because they were sweet. Long story short:

Thank you Supergiant Games!

Just finished the very last achievement to max it out, it was a thrill from the beginning.

P.S.: If you ever make a spinoff or continue with these beloved characters, please make a game about Cerberus and his otherworldy doggy exploits! If he brings along the other pets even better! 🙂

[wary garnet]

i wish i would understand how cause ik i have to clear underworld with it and rn it feels like it will be hell

[carmine jasper]

im usually increasing attack speed + damage and casting omega damage + speeds and it just deletes people

[broken glen]

I’d recommend watching someone play Nergal- plenty of videos online from boated, haelian etc

[carmine jasper]

and make sure i have something to regen magicka

[hollow lily]

Found a workaround

[wispy storm]

Chatters who have reached the (non-true) ending, ||did you get the Shimmering Ambrosia recipe from Demeter at the end of a surface run? Friend of mine says they didn't get it, and I did, so I'm wondering what's up||

[hollow lily]

Me me me me I'm literally playing nargal rn

[unique onyx]

It is the only healing in the game unaffected by vow of scars

[worn iris]

|Does anyone know/have the full Fated list of minor prophecies? I completed 86 so far|

[broken glen]

I did

[unique onyx]

You can facetank everything

[wary garnet]

maybe thats the problem for me

[unique onyx]

Hammers like whirlwind yes but also you can get Heph legendary

[wary garnet]

since i no hit only, but im not supposed to?

[unique onyx]

Either of those are disgustingly op

[hollow lily]

Chaos has an op Magick Regen. 10.6 magick per second

[hollow lily]

@unique onyx check this Build

[nova oar]

If you get lucky

[heavy glen]

lol, according to myth selene and typhon fought and typhon threw bulls at her, that's why the moon has craters

[frozen kestrel]

nergal pretty frequently lets me just faceroll, especially with ares if i get the boon that heals on strikes under 40 life

[unique onyx]

Looks good

[heavy glen]

https://archive.org/details/dionysiaca01nonnuoft/page/18/mode/2up

[sharp cosmos]

That's it, 6th visit to Narcissus this game session and still hadn't got his dd offering. I'd say he can go f himself but he'd like that, so I wish him a very unpleasant muddy waters.

[prisma monolith]

Are you missing any?

[sharp cosmos]

This one

[prisma monolith]

Are you missing a dd

[sharp cosmos]

I've had two runs where that was the case, yes

[prisma monolith]

Only those 2 runs matter, and yeha that's rng

[sharp cosmos]

Don't tell me it's a prerequisite

[prisma monolith]

He doesn't increase the max dd

[sharp cosmos]

Brb, gonna smash my head against the wall until brain damage.

[nova oar]

lmaoooo

[sharp cosmos]

Thanks for telling me tho, appreciate it

[unique vine]

do chronos time traps in Oceanus count for the ||3 moros pin usages for 3 fates|| or can i safely go to next room?

[nova oar]

Excellent question

[prisma monolith]

Yup, was gonna say the same

[nova oar]

Go find out

[unique vine]

i've already done 3 runs trying to get this stupid thing to trigger

and the one time i got it in the right order, moros decided to do his stupid romance

[prisma monolith]

He's saving you from dissapointment

[unique vine]

oh my god Nemesis why do you have to show up now

[heavy glen]

LOL

the game doesn't like you

[dull whale]

I love it then hate it right away lmao

I like her character but then she does something I didn't want and I'm like oh ok fine I guess I can't do that anymore lol

[prisma monolith]

Nemesis rarely gets on my way, as in anything she does is just beneficial to me, worst offended is her taking a door, but i always beat her to it

[unique vine]

apparently dying in a miniboss room doesn't count

[prisma monolith]

[dull whale]

Oh wait I'm so dumb
You can take the door before she destroys it?

I never tried to tbf but I assumed it was set for that door to rip when she walks to it

[heavy glen]

it is but you can take it early

[dull whale]

Ohhhh

I had no idea
Ok good to know you can snag it

[prisma monolith]

Yup, you can, just gotta be fast

[heavy glen]

sometimes i'm slow in deciding and then nem gets me

but most times i get it before she does
there's dialogue if ||she leaps into a chaos void||

[slow plinth]

Finally i beat typhon at 12 fear surface, with 13 hp left

[dull whale]

Let's goooo

I'm almost done the story. Some clears left to do but otherwise main story is complete soon

I assume there's an epilogue like hades 1

[prisma monolith]

Can always pause

[dull whale]

I'll hard focus maxing stuff and more completion stuff after

[prisma monolith]

Yes

[dull whale]

Nice

[devout cairn]

been having the hardest time thinking what vow si'm gonna do for 32F and I just realized, I don't need to do Rivals Chronos

screw that fight

[dull whale]

I haven't done any rivals fights yet
Some I'm excited for
Others scare me lol

[devout cairn]

they are overwhelming in the first couple of tries but then they become just as simple as the regular ones, except for chronos'

[dull whale]

I find for base non fear bosses, Prometheus is definitely the hardest
Eris too
They're both way harder than Chronos and Typhon

But for Vows, we shall see lol
I believe you

[dull whale]

Yeah once you know the patterns and stuff

[nova oar]

Underworld vor is harder than surface, so in a side by side comparison the routes become close to equal difficulty

[devout cairn]

yeah that tracks mostly, except for Eris I didn't struggle with her regular version

[dull whale]

Oh that's awesome

[dull whale]

First try at Typhon, going in 100% blind, got absolutely cooked
But after that I realized how slow his attacks are and I was like ah ok

Especially the Hex that drops a 1k+ dmg nuke
He can't dodge or move so lol

[heavy glen]

man. i wa doing so well in tartarus and then i fought this stupid bag thing with lasers and it ate up all my death defiances, even sprinting wasn't fast enough

[devout cairn]

that thing is harder than most bosses

[dull whale]

I always rush those down
When a lot spawn and shoot out tons of lasers man

[devout cairn]

worst miniboss in the entire game

[nova oar]

Real

[limpid oar]

I don't remember when's the last time I've seen a Tartarus miniboss, no point taking them when I'd just get an onion 😔

[devout cairn]

i still havent fought his version with shadow Vow, I better have a good build for that

[dull whale]

Doing those Rivals fights and fear is gonna be like learning the game all over again

You learn how the non fear bosses work and they become so easy so with those it's like ok time to get good

[tiny apex]

wow man the ending is kind of underwhelming

[dull whale]

I heard it's hit or miss

Haven't seen it yet so no idea but I'm close to seeing it

[heavy glen]

good luck!

[muted ingot]

does going down instead of going through the doors in mount olympus actually change anything besides the rewards?

[dull whale]

You can go up or door
Up means next location you do that aoe slam

[muted ingot]

oh yeah that is what I meant

[dull whale]

Dionysis also also shows up in doors

[tranquil wren]

minibosses are also different

[dull whale]

Ohhh this I didn't know

[tranquil wren]

ye I'm fairly sure you can only get Talos indoors and the dragon outdoors

[dull whale]

That makes sense

[trim tulip]

Welcome to the club

[merry whale]

dragon and talos are both door entrances, so miniboss encounters r always by door

[tranquil wren]

oh really? dang nvm

[merry whale]

ye, would be fun if dragon was by sky but nah

[winged flax]

i just picked a duo boon and now i dont see it in my boon list?

[merry whale]

what duo did u get

[devout cairn]

what's the best coat aspect if I just want to punch stuff

[winged flax]

Torrential Downpour. had the dialoge beteen the two of them then picked the green one and not seeing it now

[strange berry]

Hello everyone, I had one question, I missed something or the Nightmare form from the Moon Power feel "week"?

[calm pier]

you are the only comment mentioning this, thank god i was about to let her win lmaooo

[merry whale]

which god offered u it

[simple sierra]

Just finished a run with arachne's gold dress intact! used the armor keepsake, switching to antlers for tartarus, aspect of supay, and the heph boon that gives bonus dmg based on armor

[strange berry]

Do you win something special if you end a run with arachne's dress?

[devout cairn]

i think I had it mostly maxed out and the damage was still kind of underwhelming. I guess that's the tradeoff with having invuln but it's still one of my least favorite hexes. It's mostly useful as a panic button if you get overwhelmed

[simple sierra]

there's an achievement on steam for it, ngl still haven't figured out how to view achievements on the switch

[winged flax]

i think it was demi and i got artic gale instead

[heavy glen]

i don't think switch has achievements

[prisma monolith]

Just gotta make it to the final boss with it, don't need to win

[strange berry]

Yes, expect if they are in the game

[heavy glen]

but i never paid attention to those anyways

[merry whale]

hm yea torrential downpour was supposed to be removed from the game

[simple sierra]

ope, well I won with it lol, felt really good

[merry whale]

ig u can f10 report the bug

[simple sierra]

tbh getting to do the whole final region with moros keepsake felt great

[ornate blaze]

oh it got bugged again? i was told that when it dissappeared from me that i should just keep fighting prometheus and i should get the dialogue again that unlocks it but it's weird

[simple sierra]

supay felt really weak to start but scaled nicely

[slow plinth]

Think for 24 surface I might trying a Heph, Hera, Posideon. And try for a tank build, haven't decided the forth god yet, maybe dem and try to get the stronger keepsake and use the guardian keepsake. Should in theory give me quite a bit of damage reduction, and if i can get recharge time heph burst on attack should carry the damage.

[static drum]

Does anyone know how the Wounds status works? It seems like it only affects the first strike, then goes on a cooldown for X seconds. It's a % increase, sure, but isn't it kind of...terrible? LIke, I don't have the numbers in front of me at the moment but Rare Wounds on Attacks gives +30% every 3 seconds, while IIRC the Rare Aphro boon that gives damage up close is 60% base. Isn't that just worse output on a worse condition? Am I missing something? I checked to see if it stacked (like, let the timer run out, and reapplied on an ememy), and it didn't seem to.

[winged flax]

it was whatever the duo between apo and demi is, i seen both of them talk and looked up the name

[sinful loom]

hey guys how to i get the denizens of the deep prophecy? i completed the main story and got 20+ types of fish but i never got the prophecy :(

[sharp nymph]

excellent webby with uploaded videos of runs with arcana and builds etc https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/

[prisma monolith]

Yeah that's what we use to share builds and whatnot

[simple sierra]

oh wait, the achieve for having the arachne outfit isn't showing, does the outfit get destroyed even if you have armor left? wait no cuz I was still getting gold from the outfit

[static drum]

Especially when that aphro boon isn't even her main output where wounds seems to be Ares's

[dense yacht]

You get the +50 power every 3 seconds. The % boost is constant.

[static drum]

That makes so much more sense, thank you

its just a %boost with a giga attack every few seconds, kind of like hephaestus

[placid tapir]

i did it

[thin laurel]

The % bonus is constant but fairly low; the + base power bonus is on a cooldown.
Wounds by itself isn't really ideal for your primary damage source imo, for the exact reasons you described.
It can be good on a secondary damage source to weave in whenever it's off cooldown. It also counts as a status curse for stuff like Origination, which.
Also worth noting -- the biggest % damage increases iirc are apollo and aphrodite, who don't apply a status effect with their attack and special boons. So there is a trade off there.
The bigger thing with wounds tho is the secondary effects you can build on top of it! Grievous Blow is a big one, which basically gives you crit chance against wounded enemies, and Heinous Affront is another extremely powerful boons.

[placid tapir]

i beat hades 2

and i STILL DONT HAVE THE GODDAMN 4TH ASPECT FOR THE STAFF

[meager garden]

circe is quite elusive right now

[placid tapir]

DUDE LIKE SHE JUST DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE ME ANYTHING, I AM LITERALLY ABOUT TO MAX HER FRIENDSHIP AND IDK WHAT I NEED TO DO IM LOSING IT

[simple sierra]

do you have a non-mel staff up to 5?

I found I wouldn't get waking phrases unless a non mel aspect was at 5

[placid tapir]

yes i do along with 80% of other asepcts

like thats all im missing, its getting ridiculous

[static drum]

Is that how you get the fourth aspects? I didn't even realize they had brought those back

non-mel aspect to 5, then ?

[meager garden]

you need all 3 aspects unlocked
You need a non melspect at level 5
you need to talk to the right npc
After they give you a phrase, talk to the silver pool in the training room

[placid tapir]

yea u just get them at some point with an incant i think then u have to find the npcs to talk too

[placid tapir]

dude ive had that since before promethus was a thing

[thin laurel]

yup, and then talk to a specific NPC, like in h1.
the NPCs are ||the ones who another aspect of that weapon is named after—so circe, artemis, moros, charon, medea, and selene||

[meager garden]

always the 2nd aspect

[covert falcon]

||the right npc for a hidden aspect is the one the second aspect of the weapon named after||

[placid tapir]

im aware

[winged flax]

weird, the duo showed up next time i got an apo boon and worked fine. maybe i somehow didnt have a gale effect so it game me one first

[placid tapir]

i have every other aspect and i did this in hades 1 too im just confused if im missing smthn specifically for the staff

[devout cairn]

now that you beat the game she'll probably have even more dialogue irrelevant to the staff

[covert falcon]

I think we were all telling the guy who didn't know there were hidden aspects

[placid tapir]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[halcyon chasm]

what are the re-roll rules for doors? i can't seem to figure out if there are rules in place for what is allowed to roll into what

[thin laurel]

tbh circe has a lot of dialogue to get through. odysseus stuff, a lot to say about familiars, plot stuff, stuff about other witches... for a character who only sometimes shows up she has a lot to say lol
incantations and a quest/prophecy too
good luck

[trim tulip]

I heard somewhere that now you also have to max the Mel aspect

[placid tapir]

EXACLTY, I GOT THE FAMILIAR INCANT SHE GIVES BUT NOT THE ODY OR ASPECT

[covert falcon]

you actually don't (I didn't have mel maxed out when I got some of the hidden aspects)

[placid tapir]

u need an aspect of that weapon maxed

[thin laurel]

actually wait, can you just run a chaos trial in rift a lot of times? she won't always show up but I think she still has a chance to...?
idk, I did that to get some boss dialogue for a prophecy and it worked well enough, faster than full runs at least

[simple sierra]

I got all my hidden aspects without the mel aspect to 5

[lime timber]

Can confirm, I didn't max out the Mel axe but I got the hidden aspect, you just need a non-mel Aspect at +5

[torpid arrow]

i have noticed several times now, when something is dropped in room or spawned near a door or gate, the default is to choose the door/gate rather than the thing in the room. just now on the mountain, i had some life drop by a dead foe, AND something to mine, both be near the door to the next session, i tried to mine and it took me thru the door. i had this happen in oceanaus as well

[placid tapir]

i very much could yea im just tweaking out cause ive been playing since beta release and now that i fully beat game its one of the biggest things im missing like wtf

[trim tulip]

Then probably you're just extremely unlucky with the dialogue, which is a thing in this game

[merry whale]

wack, ye ur supposed to have gales for the duo

[covert falcon]

two reward pools, in-run rewards and resources you can bring back to the crossroad
boons will be from your god pool (if you already have boons from 4+ gods not counting hermes, athena, dionysus, artemis, then they're the only ones you'll get, if not then you can find more gods)

[placid tapir]

wait

[thin laurel]

I think it's just a very finnicky positioning thing, not a priority...?
cause whenever I want to leave a room but a shade or mining spot is nearby my game tends to make me gather the resources lol, if I'm standing an inch too close

[placid tapir]

BENN STARR VOICES PROMETHUS?????

[torpid arrow]

i've never had it mine or pick up thething, it always gates,

[lime timber]

How do the god keepsakes interact with that? Would having all four then equipping a 5th add the 5th into the pool or would it just be the one boon?

[static drum]

oh wow literally the next NPC i talked to gave me the zorophet phrase

[torpid arrow]

it would be nice if the inputs overlap if it would ask which one

[dull whale]

He dooooooes

[covert falcon]

it would add the 5th god to the pool, yes

[placid tapir]

omg now im just gonna envision verso everytime

[dull whale]

He's been in such great games lately
I'm happy for him

[static drum]

What is this about gods and pools?

[placid tapir]

fr fr

[covert falcon]

it's about how many different olympian gods you can get in a run

the gods whose keepsakes specifically say that you're more likely to get their boons

so not Athena, Artemis, Hermes, or Dionysus

[static drum]

So you can only get four? Is it, like, a random 4 chosen at run start?

[thin laurel]

if a god shows up on a door but you avoid them they don't get added to your pool, it's just the first 4 whose boons you actually take afaik. so it's not predetermined at the start

[covert falcon]

^ this

[static drum]

Ah, i see, thanks. I just assumed I was getting lucky, I guess

Oh, what happens if you swap to a god keepsake after you have 4? Do they get added?

[covert falcon]

but also keep in mind that in ephyra all the boons you see are "temporarily" in the pool so you can't get 5 different ones showing at the same time

[covert falcon]

yes

[thin laurel]

yup!
I think it's also possible to accidentally get a 5 god pool if like uh...
you're on the surface, you have 3 gods already, you equip a god keepsake, and then you buy + rush order a mystery boon from a hermes shrine and it happens to be a new god
since idt god keepsakes have any effect on mystery boon bags

[covert falcon]

you don't need to buy a mystery boon bag for that, if you have 4 and equip a keepsake of a 5th god you'll also get that 5th god's boon

and the 5th will be added to the god pool as well

[thin laurel]

oh ik that, emphasis on *accidentally
if you have 3 gods and take a keepsake for your fourth, a mystery boon is afaik the only way to end up with a 5 god pool despite not trying to

[devout abyss]

i think the max pool is 8?

[covert falcon]

I think 7 (4 for the first region and 1 extra for every region after that)

[heavy glen]

if you got all the gods in hades 1 somehow theseus would default to artemis

[devout abyss]

4 in erebus, 1 in oceanus, 1 from fields and another from echo's boon boon boon, 8th in tart

[thin laurel]

ooooh boon boon boon, right that makes sense

[covert falcon]

ah yes echo right

[devout abyss]

theoretically you can get 8 on the surface?

3 in ephyra, 2 different non-pool gods from hermes deliveries?

maybe you can even get 2 non-pool deliveries AND a charon shop random bag at the same time lol

so 9? with a lot of rng

[real knot]

does heras legendary count towards the god pool?

[thin laurel]

hm how does mystery boon rng actually work though, cause like...
if you have 3 gods in your pool and 1 mystery boon bag ik it can be any god.
but if you have 3 gods in your pool and 2 mystery boon bags in the same room, once you take one will the other one be limited to your pool of 4? or are they both rolled when they arrived so can both be new gods

[unreal hare]

Typhon won't give me his rocks for nergal smh my head

[thin laurel]

i.e. you have zeus + hestia + heph, and 2 mystery bags
you open one and it's demeter
can the other bag still be a new god, or now that your pull is full will it have to be one of your 4, like it would be if you bought it later after already having a full pool?

[covert falcon]

that's what I've been wondering regarding this conversation as well

[thin laurel]

cause I'm fairly sure that like, alt scenario:
you have zeus + hestia + heph, you just finished a room with a demeter reward, and a mystery boon arrived at the same time
if you open the mystery boon first I believe it can still be any god, since demeter won't be in your pool until you actually claim the boon
but if you choose demeter first that may change things

[halcyon chasm]

I just turned a money (coin) room into a Selene boon, then rerolled it again into a Hestia boon. Money and poms are in the god pool then?

[pseudo badger]

this game will have no dlc right?
and some minor balance patches at best?

[covert falcon]

the in-run reward pools, which consist of everything you don't get to keep when the run ends, including god boons

[unreal hare]

Yeah no dlc

[pseudo badger]

perfect ty

[halcyon chasm]

okay that makes sense. idk why i thought they would be separate. thanks for the help!

[unreal hare]

I gotta do a ton of raki runs now to get some scales from the surface

[pseudo badger]

and is this game harder than hades 1?

ik its subjective, but what do most ppl say?

[nova oar]

Yes

[unreal hare]

It gives you a lot more ways to get more powerful but also a lot more ways to make it really hard

[pseudo badger]

awesome

[unreal hare]

If you're basically asking should I play it? The answer is a 100% yes

[dreamy dove]

I just finished the main story!

[unreal hare]

Congrats

[pseudo badger]

nah, I already decided to play it, was just curious (and i do prefer harder games)

[unreal hare]

Get that oath and make the fear spread

[pseudo badger]

i just hope there isnt a similar system like the house rank in hades1, cuz that was a big grind to max out lol

[unreal hare]

There is

[pseudo badger]

[thin laurel]

.......well-
(I kinda ignore it in both games and just do it passively after fun runs, not as a goal)

[unreal hare]

Exactly

Its not meant to be a goal, its there to have something to do if you did EVERYTHING

[pseudo badger]

well I did everything in 1, and then I grinded the ranks out

[thin laurel]

altho I think it's easier in h2, in h1 iirc every rank wanted entirely different resources...?
in h2 it's always ||the currency for cosmetics + a specific boss drop||, and ||you can convert a lot of things into the currency for cosmetics so it's easier to farm than gemstones||
I haven't maxed it out so sorry if this is misinfo, but so far that's how it's worked for me

[pseudo badger]

yeah the main issue was that it was 1 single currency and you couldn't convert anything lol

[thin laurel]

yeah, in general I think h2 does resources management a lot better lol
you have fewer things competing for the same currency, like music not all costing a boss drop like diamonds lmao

[pseudo badger]

thats good to know!
and definitely a welcome change

[nova oar]

The prestige is super easy to complete dw

[sharp nymph]

How many ranks r there ?

[thin laurel]

same with the aspect system! idk, I don't want to spoil you, but I think h2 improves on that sort of thing quite a bit.
||specifically the fact that each aspect is unlocked with different materials, and the resource to upgrade ≠ the resource to unlock them. way easier to try them all out without feeling like you're wasting titan's blood you could have used to upgrade your favorite||
||and the mel aspects not costing the titan's blood equivalent to upgrade||

[trim tulip]

I'm pretty sure that's like 50 ranks

[sharp nymph]

Is there any way to see wot rank u are ?

[trim tulip]

Personally I couldn't find any, save for the final stats screen after completing a room

[sharp nymph]

Kinda annoying lol

[thin laurel]

can you see at the taverna by interacting with the shade who upgrades it...?

[pseudo badger]

what is the rank system called exactly in hades2? can't find it on the wiki lol

[sharp nymph]

Nah he only shows u wot u need for next ranks

[thin laurel]

the wiki in general is kinda out of date (and I wish there was a non fandom wiki for h2, maybe there is and I just haven't found it but... would be nice)
I think it may just be called rank...? the dialogue is all just "our rank is now X" and similar

[pseudo badger]

thanks! yeah I feel like it's not up to date, shame cuz the hades 1 wiki was great

[thin laurel]

it'll probably catch up, there's just a lot of early access info still mixed in, especially for minor tweaks like the exact requirements to unlock something

[brittle frost]

Can i ask a question about one boon? There’s Snuffed Candle by Hestia, ”you deal more damage to foes that are nowhere other foes” - do bosses count as foes too?

[nova oar]

The wiki hasn't been updated yet, theres 50 ranks, the final one being unseen 1

[sharp nymph]

I did however just beat 32 uw for the first time, so thats exciting 🥴

[nova oar]

yes bosses count

[pseudo badger]

Thanks! @nova oar @thin laurel

[nova oar]

I think the ranks go Unseen-Nightmare-Specter and i cant remember the first 2

[thin laurel]

uhhhh wraith is one of them

idr the exact order, I haven't been paying attention beyond dropping off resources every few runs

[short raft]

So ||Zagreus Gems in Elysium|| heal from Dem's Plentiful Forage. Fascinating.

[unreal hare]

Riskiest heal in Athens

[limpid stream]

Two questions

1. ||Is the attack where Hecate turns you into a sheep dodgable?||

2. ||Is Hermes still seperate from the god pool||

[gritty vortex]

yes and yes

[static drum]

The three keepsakes at the end, ||right between Icarus and Chaos. I don't know that I want a spoiler as to who they are, but maybe a nudge in the direction of how to get them?||

[tribal yew]

What's the opposite of a god run?

[lofty pumice]

My pockets are OVERFLOWING with fish
How do I sell them to the wretched broker?

[tribal yew]

Go to the third tab in his shop

[nova oar]

You get them after the credits

[lofty pumice]

he only has two tabs! 😭

[static drum]

Ah.

[tribal yew]

What's the second tab?

[lofty pumice]

favor-inducing items

[tribal yew]

Check cauldron. Maybe there's "sell fish" upgrade

[lofty pumice]

there isn't

[thin laurel]

iirc there's an incantation that lets you sell fish to the broker...? no idea what unlocks it, but it's not a default ability

[lofty pumice]

I'm on night 70-ish

[thin laurel]

it'll show up eventually, maybe after catching a certain number of fish or spending a certain number of bones. the wiki may have info, altho it may be outdated, 1 sec checking

[lofty pumice]

it's been more than 30 hours

[lofty pumice]

I have 27 fish

[thin laurel]

hm weird. the wiki says that you need to have summoned the broker, unlocked gathering tools, and unlocked the plant growing area.
but it's also outdated and from the phase of EA where you sold like.... mushrooms, instead of just fish, so I don't know if that's actually accurate till.
do you have any available incantations you haven't done yet?

[lofty pumice]

yeah, I bought this game one patch ago (a week ago)

[charred saffron]

AYEEEE GUYS guess what

I made it to ||Typhon|| for the first time amd I beat him on my very first try

💪🏾 I know it’s not a flex compared to most but it’s my first time and I did it

[tidal cliff]

Pretty impressive if you weren’t aware of the moveset as there is some pretty annoying attacks that you don’t expect with your first ever run

[atomic river]

are regions the main parts of the world or locations

[gusty fjord]

I also managed that my first try. It's hard though

imo what's harder is the area leading up to it and also the 3rd surface boss

[charred saffron]

Thanks !!! Yeah no I was just beefed up thankfully. He was actually ironically way easier than ||Chronos|| at less going in blind

[minor stirrup]

Poseidon duplicating an onion when I fail the 'slay foes without getting hit' trial:

[tidal cliff]

Minibosses is what I struggled with at first they’re all so annoying when you don’t understand them yet

[tranquil wren]

regions are the main areas in the game, yeah (like erebus, oceanus, ephyra). locations are the individual rooms in these regions

[lofty pumice]

@thin laurel thanks for trying to help, I submitted a bug report

[charred saffron]

I felt that he took most of my death defiances

[tranquil wren]

encounters are the waves in each location I believe

[atomic river]

alr thx im always confused

[tidal cliff]

And encounters are rooms that specifically contain fights

[charred saffron]

The onlu one I had trouble with was the ||👅||

[daring coral]

The Chaos Trials lie about resetting you to your prior loadout when you exit

[tidal cliff]

It gets way easier when you understand it’s hitbox bc you can just be close and it misses

[daring coral]

If they change your aspect, it stays changed afterwards and you have to manually swap back

[charred saffron]

I have one more question about the end of the surface. ||is the god whose boons you used most the one that appears ? Or is it always Apollo?||

[nova oar]

it very much annoys me

[nova oar]

Huh?

[gusty fjord]

same I actually was about to lose when I beat ||typhon|| lol

I literally screamed with joy

[tranquil wren]

you get only around like four olympians per run, so the boons in the shop will be from one of them. so not necessarily from apollo

[daring coral]

That would be pretty awful considering (EPILOGUE SPOILERS)||you eventually lose the opportunity to visit the palace of Zeus||

[thin laurel]

if you mean the post final boss room, ||it's always apollo + zeus and hera, sometimes one other person, and it's just story based not based on your runs||

[tranquil wren]

ohhhhhh. I thought you meant the shop. I'm stupid

[charred saffron]

OH ok thanks guys

[tranquil wren]

apollo's the only ||good singer on olympus||

[thin laurel]

DLC to add ||karaoke night to Dio's pool party and hear him sing while wasted||

[somber sigil]

[chaos trials spoiler] ||is it always frenzy 2 in great chaos trials?||

[lofty pumice]

@thin laurel ugh...it's suddenly in the cauldron

[slow plinth]

Personally I feel like they need to change it so the hex that gives you a servant, and the boon that summons a servant based on the first thing you kill, instead needs to be changed to where enemies will drop and orb, and you can pick it up, that'll be what gets summoned. And then just change it so the duo boon just summons it at the very start of a location.

[thin laurel]

omg I wonder what triggered it...? good that it finally showed up, though

[lofty pumice]

no, I probably acknowledeged this a couple of days ago and forgot about it

[short raft]

Im gonna ask, is Aphro's legendary bugged? cuz its not working on Typhon, or maybe it only applies once?

[merry whale]

it should reapply as long as typhon's weak status is dropped before reapplying

[short raft]

🤔 I see!

[wintry mantle]

awe man i lost a dd to cerbie because he roll caught me with a massive explosion

[stone maple]

okay i am seething, why does dashing not refresh your sprint? why do you need to come to a stand still completely in order to refresh Nitro Boost?
it goes against every part of game design from the game so far

[stable flame]

I really live that the new watch keepsake lets me sell an onion for an actual decent amount of gold LOL

"Onion? Gold!"

[potent current]

Yeah and i like how boated basically traded life for gold via chaos trial

[heavy glen]

want

[neon umbra]

Getting randomly assigned the White Antler in region four when doing Great Chaos Above is not fun.

[naive mantle]

Does anyone know if super giant is gonna add hades 2’s soundtrack to Apple Music

Need death to cronos otw to work lol

[thin laurel]

I assume they will eventually since all their other OSTs are on there
just no idea when, and it's not important enough to like... make a public statement about it

[neat frigate]

Does anyone else think the secret boss’ damage is pretty overtuned

Dudes doing typhon level damage when I’m in Oceanus

[nova oar]

Nah it needs to be hard

[neat frigate]

If the damage was halved the fight would still be hard lol

[tranquil wren]

I only fought him once but it was in ephyra so idk if it is overtuned

[neat frigate]

? How do you fight him in ephyra?

[broken glen]

It’s about in-line with the Charon fight for damage

[tranquil wren]

wait maybe not idr

[nova oar]

You can also fight him on olympus if you get lucky so it's good as is

[neat frigate]

Charon was much less mobile and easier to dodge lol

Iirc anyway it’s been a while

[broken glen]

You can get ||infernal contracts|| at any mid-shop

[neat frigate]

Ephyra doesn’t have a mid shop

[nova oar]

Nope, 40% chance in midshop in regions 1/2 uw and 2/3 sf

[neat frigate]

I would have less of an issue if you could fight it in fields

[nova oar]

No midshop in fields

[neat frigate]

Yeah ik

[tranquil wren]

wait there isn't?

[neat frigate]

Somehow I beat him on my first try and since then I’ve lost three times and only won once and that was after I turned off frenzy. I’m so bad at this fight

[tranquil wren]

I feel like I'm being gaslit. probably just have never noticed

well frenzy is just ridiculous, I hate it so much

[heavy glen]

i don't know what frenzy is but i fear it from what ya'll are saying

[broken glen]

There is now- it used to be impossible, but at least in chaos trials (and I think regular now in 1.0?) midshop can appear in fields

[tranquil wren]

ah okay, because I felt like there was

[broken glen]

It makes all enemies faster. Including bosses.

[heavy glen]

uh oh

oh gods the fish
the king vermin

aaaaaaaaaaaa

[neat frigate]

Frenzy 2 on rivals scylla makes me pull my hair out

Rivals scylla in general makes me pull my hair out

[tranquil wren]

this is why I'll never do high fear runs. 12 surface and 16 underworld is my limit

[neat frigate]

My typical runs are at around 40

[tranquil wren]

as much as I love H2, I hope I don't play it enough to the extent where I have to up my fear that high for the game to feel enjoyable

[neat frigate]

After 40 is when the game starts to get less fun for me

40 is I think the highest you can go before some things start becoming unviable

[frigid echo]

does forfeit add the onioned god into god pool?

[neat frigate]

Probably not?

[thick bronze]

what is reticle magnetism??

[dull spindle]

What happens when you hit 48 testaments?

[nova oar]

Nothing

[dull spindle]

What’s the point then

[nova oar]

You get nmare

Sometimes you just need to play for the love of the game

[dull spindle]

I’m still just trying to beat it

[sharp nymph]

Something's feels impossible and then all of a sudden it's like.. nah that's doable and then it just becomes the norm

[glass condor]

Why cant I convince any of my friends to play hades 😭

[sharp nymph]

Time to get new friends

Hades will always be there for you

[dull spindle]

The first one is like 6$ rn

[wheat quail]

getting a testiment is just getting a skull(nightmare) from the heat required, right? or is it something else

[thick bronze]

what is reticle magnetism??

[wintry mantle]

im morbidly curious who you can romance in this game

[heavy glen]

||moros, icarus, nemesis, eris||

[wintry mantle]

curious

[glass condor]

I know and I still cant convince em 😭

[glass condor]

Thats what im thinkin

[heavy glen]

maybew you could show them someone playing the game

[dull spindle]

I convinced my friend to buy it lol

[glass condor]

I think it might be a running joke to never play the game just to ragebait me lmao

[heavy glen]

eris would be proud

[sharp nymph]

Maybe they are all secretly playing it

[dull spindle]

6$ for hades is insane imo

[glass condor]

I know, one of the best games of all time

[dull spindle]

Such a steal

[sharp nymph]

I tried going back to H1 but I just prefer Mel and the witchy stuff

[wheat quail]

[glass condor]

I haven’t finished 2 yet but its such good sequel feels improved in every way

[dull spindle]

I miss zagreus

[wheat quail]

so is it a counter for heat+weapon+boss killed runs? I feel like mine hasnt gone up evenly

[dull spindle]

I liked the characters more In 1

[glass condor]

U just miss Meg

[dull spindle]

Nah it’s not just Meg I miss hades nyx Achilles and dusa

[glass condor]

I miss Thanatos 🥲