h2-discussion

[somber sand]

Went to the stats shade and wondered why the number for momus staff was so high and then I remembered old momus,,,,💔💔💔 everyday I miss him more

[storm glen]

how did you play old momus that much

[noble ridge]

is there a prerequisite to getting double god boon rooms? i've seen many clips with people getting them, but i am deep into the epilogue almost done with the game and i havent seen a single one in any of my runs

[somber sand]

It was my go to “I want to clear as easily as possible”

[sterile notch]

Honestly not sure. I started getting them after I first went into the surface in the early access

[storm glen]

i remember Red Orb momus

[storm glen]

and 20% crit than axe

[somber sand]

Sorry thought you meant duo boons mb

[sterile notch]

Also as a tip, the double god boon rooms aren’t affected by horde fear. They will have a set number of mobs instead of an increased from the fear

[inner sorrel]

How do I unlock ||my bond with chaos? How many trials do I need?||

[paper marsh]

all of the starter ones + ambrosia

[inner sorrel]

That means all besides the full random ones?

[noble ridge]

I think i had them in my early access save, but I started a new save when 1.0 came out, im like 60hours in, almost done with the epilogue and havent seen a single one, very weirdge i would love to have 2 boons instead of 1 sometimes

[jolly wing]

Is it a good idea to have Vow of Denial oath on most of the time?

[paper marsh]

all of the ones that come when u unlock the stone

[sterile notch]

Why would you have this on

[crude minnow]

I got it around night 50-55

[inner sorrel]

I don't exactly remember which one are those and which are unlocked later

[jolly wing]

To get the boon you do want quicker

[sterile notch]

If you get 3 that you want tho? You lose the other 2 permanently

Never put denial on voluntarily

[unkempt zodiac]

I don't like it. It's a positive if you know what kind of build you want but I prefer to play hades 2 chaotically and randomly and it kinda messes with that

[noble ridge]

oh hmm i am on night 52 atm so maybe i need to play a few more runs to unlock it but that seems awfully long for it to unlock

[thin laurel]

denial also afaik won’t guarantee that you’ll get a legendary or duo even if it’s the only boon that’s still available. you still have to roll to get it to appear at all

[wraith barn]

||you need to do another run after doing the incantation for both typhon and chronos right||

[sterile notch]

On both surface and underworld yes

The prophecy list tells you how to progress further

[mystic hill]

my hate for circe just grow every hour i spend on her feel like i am doing a shiny hunt for a dialogue

[merry whale]

yea thessaly midrooms are extremely rng it's weird

[unkempt zodiac]

1.0 post-game spoiler ||chronos just standing there unwilling to accept my nectar despite the Codex saying he wants it is so annoying||

[rapid plaza]

yeah i think he only accepts gifts ||between crossroad and oceanous||

[merry whale]

yea ||they really should let us gift chronos at the tail ends of the run||

especially given how much work it takes to get there compared to ||rng check post erebus||

[atomic ibex]

Great, I was struggling with Zagreus skull shoulder pads but now I can't draw a sad moon shape over Melinoë chest, b r u h

[worldly ibex]

I talked to Chaos with Embryo maxed twice in the same run and the born to win prophecy didn't unlock after I won the run. Should I just try again?

[fair niche]

Hey guys - I still have yet to get the Nectar recipe and it's been a massive issue

I'm running with aphrodite every run and i'm doing like nightmare 10+ runs and I haven't gotten the dialogue for it yet even after the golden apple dialogue after killing ||Eris||

[fresh tiger]

Anyone know how I can progress Odysseus' bond? Stuck on the lock

[atomic ibex]

Try using || at the start and at the end of what you wanna smirk as spoiler

[fair niche]

Already did lmao

[atomic ibex]

Checking the codex gives you a hint

[fresh tiger]

Saw it but not too sure since he hasn't said anything

[icy pulsar]

That moment you misinput and die to Chronos's nuke

[crude minnow]

back in the day when frost veneer let you surive that

[merry whale]

me when i charge a coat omega (it makes me slip a mile into death blast)

[icy pulsar]

I accidentally charged the black coat primary. The recoil threw me out of safety

[fair niche]

Seems like people have similar issues to me on reddit but no one has a solution

Might put it in the feedback section

[sterile notch]

Keep progressing in the story and talk to him after every night. Eventually you’ll need to bring his keepsake to certain bosses

[cursive nacelle]

you need have quite a few golden apples

[molten hazel]

||talked to athena about arachne twice who do i talk to now? Not getting any new dialogue||

[fair niche]

I've gotten like 10+ over the course of it. Even unlocked the Ambrosia recipe before nectar

[lavish kernel]

What're the unlock requirements for "Observation of Gaia's Secrets"? I feel like it should have shown up by now...

[fair niche]

Feedback channel is closed....

[crude minnow]

I had the same issue, took me 50 nights to get it

[fair niche]

Yeah that's absurd for sure

[crude minnow]

I had to get to max hearts and use her keepsake and after 4-5 extra tries it worked

[fair niche]

Is it intended to be that way????

[onyx summit]

You have to progress dialogue with Hecate as well

[crude minnow]

max her before amber*

[fair niche]

No way lmfao

[arctic valley]

||Does anyone know if Typhoon gets stronger for his final kill||

[fair niche]

Does anyone know any way to reliably contact an admin or provide feedback? Seems like they closed the feedback channel

[onyx summit]

No

[onyx summit]

Maybe press f10 in game?

[crude minnow]

think i had to get her to 6 hearts

[fair niche]

It's not a bug but I guess.

I'll post on the community steam - It's not a technical issue I suppose. I just can't tell if it was deliberate design or not

[sharp void]

does Guardian mean the boss for each location?

[onyx summit]

Yes

[sharp void]

is the right bottom side of the card worth it? I'm wondering whether to just take as much cards as possible or try the bottom one

[crude minnow]

you need to build around it if you go that path ie take circes keepsake too to get extra cards is what I did before

[rapid plaza]

judgement can be really strong in the midgame/high fear runs but you need to beat prom to get it

[merry whale]

it's super fun to play around, usually it's objectively worse than just having 30 grasp

but it offers funny gambling if u like some spice

[astral lichen]

anyone hope thier next game focuses on a different mythology? i love greek i just dont know what else is really left

[merry whale]

kinda wish circe keepsake dropped 3 cards so it guarantees all the available cards in high fear ||fates whim||

yea they def doing a new ip after this im gonna be looking forward to it

[sharp void]

I just got the card, hence asking. Atm i have around 27 arcana card psyche unlocked, not sure to just do the usual or try this

[astral lichen]

are you asking wether its worth running the card that unlocks more cards after each boss?

[sharp void]

Yes

[astral lichen]

its very rng but its super fun

[rapid plaza]

it can lead to some interesting runs. you should give it a try

[astral lichen]

can have the best or worst run but regardless its super fun

[sharp void]

If maxed upgraded, how many cards will it unlock each location

[sly fern]

I just did my first trip to the surface and beat ||typhon||

[astral lichen]

5 iirc, someone might correct me

[sharp void]

I need to find creative ways to beat the last surface boss

[pearl dune]

You know for wanting to be found, the fates sure dont make it easy.

||brought the pin to oceanus, started doing a 3 chamber set, got abducted by chronos on the last one. No sweat, I do another. I get Nem on the last one but not even a fight, just a trade. I wasnt sure I had enough chambers left so I just let Mel take a few extra blows at that point to restart||

[grizzled trench]

lmao same

first i got mel-napped by chronos, then i got nem (trade), then i got forced shop/narc >:(

[pearl dune]

Yeah i dont know if theres a concrete number to that regions chamber count but I was pretty sure i was gonna get cut off by the shop

[cobalt reef]

Like within the fight itself or does she really just chunk your health with every hit?

[astral lichen]

out of interest, was there any actual in game indication of the method to find them, without seeing it online i feel like it would be hard to work out by yourself

[rapid plaza]

chronos can nab you ||post credits!?||

[grizzled trench]

he SURE CAN

[rapid plaza]

||fated list tells you how to do it||

[charred saffron]

||bro||

[pearl dune]

The fated list says so once youve completed the prerequisites its description updates

[charred saffron]

||the fact there’s a boss Aftwr Prometheus makes my biscuit burn. Who else could it be? It took all my lives to kill him||

[naive charm]

does plasma not work with ||aspect of supay||?

[sharp garden]

on sides of the arena there's shrines that can remove poison

[pearl dune]

I completely missed them the first time I did that fight. Theyre bright yellow and yet I still didnt see em 😅

[solar pulsar]

So what's the general opinion on the new keepsakes, I've been loving them but I've only really been playing with Rivals, Time and Menace so maybe they're not super great at higher fear

[merry whale]

they're actually the new meta for high fear

it actually compensates super strongly like now it's actually a "take this and go wild" instead of "god dammit give me ur 1 boon"

[solar pulsar]

I could see it, ||Jeweled Pom|| is obviously super strong but it just seemed like ||Zag's and Chronos'|| were much lower impact in comparison

[light thicket]

Any tips on how to get the remaining green enemy souls to spawn faster? this is ruining my run time

[oak current]

oh no you have run through them

[knotty moon]

has anyone finished the rank yet? how many are there? I suspect there is huge amount

[oak current]

at least i think so - i run through them so they dont actually respawn

[digital shoal]

trying to do a surface clear with all the weapons for the prophecy, training up w Rivals on 2, really my big wall so far has been Prometheus

Two struggles, Polyphemus with all the ||poison|| and Prom

[light thicket]

oh i see xD this is way easier

[oak current]

sorry but how on earth did you get the new keepsakes?
also does anyone know if epic has achievments for this game?

[clever rose]

there has GOT to be something broken with Life Savings

[oak current]

glad i could help! it still sucks but less enemies at least

[clever rose]

i'm on run #10 of intentionally trying to get it and no luck

[solar pulsar]

They're all post-game, and it does

[oak current]

i am lost, apologies - i have the game now, was in ea, but i haven't met anyone to give me any new ones? i assume that's how you get them?

[stoic nimbus]

|| does anyone know the name of the track that plays when you fight zagreus through the Charon shop pact thing?||

[solar pulsar]

Yup

[pearl dune]

I saw on reddit a tip that should help (though I did get it unintentionally after several runs doing this haha)

||dont have any arcana cards with dice rolls so he won't offer a resupply on that and if you can, purge pomnable boons in erebus after hecate and avoid them at all costs in oceanus. Go towards bones and ash rewards etc||

[tepid rune]

Quick mechanics/keyword question: does the final run boss (ie. Chronos) count as a Guardian for the purposes of stuff like Knuckle Bones, or is a "Guardian" only the bosses at the end of each non-final location?

[oak current]

i just saw the achievements and there are 0/50? i'm so lost, i've done so muvh stuff, what on earth am i supposed to do to get any tf

[stoic nimbus]

It works for everything that has a boss health bar I’m pretty sure

[pearl dune]

A lot lot of them you will get automatically as you go through the story

[clever rose]

i've already been ||going without dice roll cards after finding out you can't reroll his boons 😭 and i like the fates' whims keepsakes. guess i'll try the pomnable boons thing, thanks||

[pearl dune]

Tbf I think it was before v1.0 so those weren't available yet, good luck soldier

[west berry]

i was thinking about which game is harder between hades 1 and 2

and then i played vs rival scylla

so much is going on in her fight im fighting 3 enemies and idk how many tentacles its still a fun one tho

[languid bear]

FINALLY BEAT THE GAME!!

[frank narwhal]

i gotta know if i need to bother redoing a fresh save for 1.0, will i miss out on story if i previously maxxed it out like a year ago?

[meager garden]

if you did it a year ago might as well restart

[languid bear]

Holy heck, after over 360 hours it's finally done 🥹

[normal obsidian]

GOTDAMN Darren https://youtu.be/EfJ4KrlQrxg?si=iKpiFnAYg0GqG1zh

[stable flame]

Anyone else play EA and always expect that little EA notice jingle at the end of a run 😭

[minor stirrup]

Both times I've taken Echo's keepsake on a run it's completely failed to duplicate any boons 🤦‍♀️ It just got to level 2 without ever providing me any benefit. Lol

[meager garden]

oh definitely, lol. I keep expecting the annoying screen.

[normal obsidian]

Both times I've taken Echo's keepsake on a run it's completely failed to duplicate any boons 🤦‍♀️ It just got to level 2 without ever providing me any benefit. Lol

[stable flame]

I'm happy to have the screen gone, but I kinda miss the little tune

[normal obsidian]

😉

[proud pollen]

generally speaking which do you guys think is the best companion?

[minor stirrup]

I was so confused for a second lmao

[rapid plaza]

raki probably

[meager garden]

I like frinos, he makes me feel safe with that health bump

[small wagon]

how do i unlock the hidden aspects?

[pallid cradle]

We got a 1.0 hotfix? Was Supay still winning runs? ||I kid, I kid||

[wheat rain]

just saw the early access message, you're welcome supergiant, and thanks for 2 masterpieces in a row and I wish you the best in your next project ♥

[molten hazel]

is there a new incantation or something that needs flux? it still says needed resource but idk what else i can still unlock at this point

done main story-epilogue

[jagged hound]

Hey I am having a kinda weird game issue, it’s not a tech issue, more what I think may be a bug in the game?

[oak current]

my achievements are finally coming innnnnnnnnn

[jagged hound]

Namely, I don’t have access to one of the witch’s staff aspects, specifically the second one? Despite having all the others. Is there something I need to do in order to get it, or is my game just bugged

[rapid plaza]

2? I count 5

[wheat rain]

didnt play their other games yet but I'm planning to after finishing hades2

[honest plank]

I swear to god, ive done 15 runs and the secret boss hasent spawned once

[misty isle]

Any tip for getting the|| infernal contract||?

[minor stirrup]

Lmao I harvested a herb during the Chronos fight and he was like 'PUT THAT BACK'

[misty isle]

only saw once and dunno the trigger

[minor stirrup]

How am I gonna put the plant I harvested back Chronos 😆

[honest plank]

all I know is that it should only spawn in mid shops

[minor stirrup]

I've done 35 runs and haven't seen it once. I imagine it's gated behind nectar progression with him or something

[misty isle]

going on every mid shop and games going full balatro NOPE!

[honest plank]

you can only give him nectar during it though so prob nopt

just a rare chance cuz ive heard someone say they say it on olympus

[misty isle]

the only time i got was on oceanus

[crude minnow]

there is no way to see moon skills before selecting right?

[shell topaz]

||so I just beat the game and freed my family and chronos is to be judged on olympus with zeus, what's my next step ? shall I go to olympus or underworld ?||

[misty isle]

nope

[nova oar]

Either is fine

[honest plank]

both

[narrow geode]

||how do you find the three fates and get the true ending||

[compact wharf]

do yall think poseidon attack spin to win axe would be any good

[shell topaz]

is there an order that is more satisfactory or doesn't matter ?

[misty isle]

never tried that
and now got me curious lol

[honest plank]

||Do as it says afther seing the ending, then onece it says sum about the keepsake in oceanus use moros keepsaked 3 times in a row in onceanus and die on the 4th one||

[compact wharf]

it sounds good on paper idk

[nova oar]

Not really, you need to do both routes anyway so personal preference

[misty isle]

even if it doesnt do good
it sounds funny

[compact wharf]

now that i think about it its probably worse blitz attack

[nova oar]

It'd only really work on than axe

[mystic hill]

this system of random dialogue for quest and achievement is making me insane ||i have every achievement only missing one in the game upgraded all my pets and still dont have the unfamiliar forms from circe i spend my whole day trying and nothing luck base dialogue hurt unluck people ||

[neon peak]

what does the credit card in Charon's shop do?

[meager garden]

you have all pets at max level, +10?

[nova oar]

There is probably something you're missing

[compact wharf]

i got mine having all maxed out familiars and circe friendship maxed pre 1.0, was my very first dialogue ur deffo missing something

[meager garden]

they do have to be max level btw

[nova oar]

You can order stuff from the chest next to the broker

[misty isle]

Also any way to check now many cash ya got from nemesis so far?

[nova oar]

Nope just keep doingit

[misty isle]

aw dangit
getting tired of that

[celest flare]

So I don't understand the art direction with Demeter? Why is half of her art blacked out?

[compact wharf]

ts buns

[nova oar]

No surprises there

[compact wharf]

yea real

[meager garden]

idk, she's winter though, so she also represents darkness/winter solstice

[mystic hill]

they are max lvl and circe and hecate is max friendship

[compact wharf]

i keep forgetting to give ambrosia to gods im gonna crash out

[merry whale]

wait ||hecate saying "arachne can blame me" after destroying my dress is kinda funny ngl||

[meager garden]

LMAO

[brazen condor]

Demeters boons feel weaker in this one but all her voice lines for hex and legendary are fire cold

[meager garden]

wha?
demeter was notoriously underpowered in Hades 1

[nova oar]

Do you have all the familiars?

[compact wharf]

demeter sux in h1 less sux in h2 but still sux

[mystic hill]

yes 5

[nova oar]

Demeter zeus my beloved

[compact wharf]

her cores are attrocious except arctic ring and gain

[dapper pivot]

i still live in a world where demeter gain is bad, tbh

[tiny apex]

can medea be romanced

[nova oar]

Real

[compact wharf]

shes so fine but no

[tiny apex]

she is so fine and that is unfortunate

i wanted dora to be romanceable as well cuz she's endearing but sadly she isnt

[dapper pivot]

i know its allegedly good now but i have horrible memories of frantically circling a room in olympus trying to find a spot where i could chill long enough for my magic to come back

[compact wharf]

how would that even work shes a floating ghost 😭

[dapper pivot]

so is icarus!

[compact wharf]

old tranquil was so so bad i genuinely get nightmares bout it but now if its like epic/has a pom or 2 its like insta full magik

[tiny apex]

i mean techincally all former mortals in the crossroads are ghosts

[compact wharf]

hes only romanceable once you give him the whatever potion

[nova oar]

One must expand the mind

[dapper pivot]

so you could give it to dora instead (if she were an option, alas)

[compact wharf]

thats fair

am i the only one who sometimes reads the "BOND FORGED" as BOND forCed

idk it just bothers me i wish they made the g more noticable

[oak current]

aspect of nyx is more powerful than i though lmao

[tiny apex]

what is the best axe aspect in yalls opinions

[compact wharf]

its objectively medea thoyugh

[tiny apex]

i am personally a fan of thanatos but i havent really given any others a shot

[honest plank]

Thanatos

[nova oar]

Anything but nergal

[compact wharf]

oh axe aspect

thanatos i cant read

[nova oar]

Ah yes, my favourite axe, medea

[merry whale]

i believe charon's the strongest axe in terms of how much damage u can do

[misty isle]

please dont use someone as an axe please

[compact wharf]

i like charon alot though with sword ring hostile evironment phial geyserspout

[dapper pivot]

hurling enough ambrosia and bath salts at them until they love me

[honest plank]

Best aspect is Moros though

[compact wharf]

yea but you also need duos and a ton of diff gods and thats pain

[merry whale]

mel axe is prob the weakest

[compact wharf]

2nd best for sure

[nova oar]

Sounds like someone who is about to be used as an axe

[misty isle]

oh no

[brazen condor]

Least favorite family disputes? Hephaestus and ares are scary

[nova oar]

My second best time is on mel axe, 8.13 😭

[honest plank]

medea gotta be my least favorite skull ngl

[compact wharf]

demeter/hera might as well cut off my arms and legs

[dapper pivot]

i sided against hera in a family dispute ONCE

[compact wharf]

top 5 worst takes 😭

[jolly wing]

Do you get anything from gifting ||Hypnos||?

[honest plank]

nope

[merry whale]

my first h1 clear had hera in 2nd top damage dealt to me around the 100 mark

[tiny apex]

i just dont like the skulls at all

[honest plank]

this guy understands it

[merry whale]

i was so bad i unlocked surface before beating uw apparently

[compact wharf]

medea is just a melee weapon its not even a skull

[upper rover]

Do the explosions from Moros Torches still count as a normal attack?
If so the arcana effect would be huge

[nova oar]

We hate the skulls in this family

[compact wharf]

yes

[upper rover]

Okay yea, that one arcana is cracked with this then

[compact wharf]

Night

[honest plank]

Only skull i somewhat like is Hel and that secause its just a gun

[indigo lava]

spoilers for endgame keepsakes ||is jeweled pom bugged right now?||

[brazen condor]

I dont understand the hera dispute fear. maybe im lucky but she never lands a hit

[tiny apex]

best moros build?

[nova oar]

Nope

[compact wharf]

its not as good as youd think actually cuz its only on the omega attack

[merry whale]

it's for normal attacks so huntress would buff up the moros explosions

[indigo lava]

||then is it just not clear on what it upgrades??||

[honest plank]

ive done over 40 runs w it and I havent had a single problem

[nova oar]

Aphro attack zeus special

[compact wharf]

zeus specials + aphrodite attack island getaway if you really wanna get sweaty

[upper rover]

I was thinking of The Huntress

[tiny apex]

cool ty i will try this

[compact wharf]

oh huntress is good on everything

[upper rover]

that thing's insane

[indigo lava]

ohh ||is it saying that new boons you get have the +3 levels?||

[compact wharf]

i mostly just do zeus specials hera/demeter-zeus duo/ares attack its so versatile

[nova oar]

Yes, it's not retroactive

[honest plank]

Posidon on atk, Zeus special, hestia castr w fireball or lighting lance

[compact wharf]

you always want zeus specials though bc its just constant blitz proc

[brazen condor]

Does the game have poor translations or do people not read the pop ups that tell you what you need?

[honest plank]

Some people just cant understand what it means sometimes vro

[dapper pivot]

sometimes the in game tooltips are very confusingly worded. but also uhhh enough time spent doing customer service has taught me that sometimes people simply refuse to read

[nova oar]

Some gamers just refuse to read sometimes

[minor stirrup]

Lol the petting animation for ||Raki|| is so goofy, she's nowhere near him as she's doing the scratchies

[brazen condor]

Reading is for employees only

[compact wharf]

what pop ups im confused

[compact wharf]

customer service job god bless your soul

[minor stirrup]

There are dozens of us! And we all regret our life choices...

[compact wharf]

i’m prob gonna get a job at mcdonald’s this summer gonna be hell

[brazen condor]

If you hover over a selection . A pop up will appear giving you a description of key words

[dapper pivot]

im out of that now thank god and hopefully never again, but yeah it was a time. one of them was at starbucks, and i distinctly recall a woman asking me if the pumpkin spice latte would be too spicy for her.

to which my response was that i didnt know her personal spice tolerance, but if she had to ask then i wouldnt risk it

[compact wharf]

oh yea i use that all the time ppl dont rlly ask questions regarding that tho no?

[compact wharf]

middle aged white women at a star bucks trying not to ask something dumb challenge

[dapper pivot]

i wasnt about to explain the difference between "spicy" and "has spices" to her. i was just like wow i really love the white mocha and its not spicy at all :)

[jolly wing]

Yay, Zeus finally appeared on Night 5. Is Zeus Attack on Staff good?

[brazen condor]

Not as many as my comment would make it seem but semi regularly people ask questions the pop up answers

[honest plank]

zeus on any atack isnt really good
except medea

[compact wharf]

do people put zeus attack on medea i always do special

[compact wharf]

i like it on thanatos axe a lot tbh it’s funny

[minor stirrup]

Why does Moros have a 6-pack though

[honest plank]

idk i hate medea

[honest plank]

Apollo

[misty isle]

greek gods, the usual of them

[compact wharf]

how do you hate the near 200 base dmg fast attack speed weapon

[dapper pivot]

if they do they shouldnt bc the special hits first, so you want blitz on special and then your attack to explode in it

[minor stirrup]

Gotta be jacked, even if you just stand around looking pretty 24/7

[misty isle]

also found finally ||another infernal contral, on ocean advance on surface||

[honest plank]

I hate charging it up, I hate having to dash to reload, I hate the incosistant damage, and Moros exist

[misty isle]

totes lol
so far only one good aint like that

[outer nymph]

I am the only one who thinks blitz takes to long to
acivate

[compact wharf]

very hot take

[compact wharf]

it activates instantly if you do like 120 dmg to a foe with blitz </3

[minor stirrup]

It's alright on Aspect of Melinoe coat too, really easy to trigger Blitz with dash-strike or omega attack

[outer nymph]

Realy?

[honest plank]

who the hell is using melenoe coat

[jolly wing]

I think Zeus' Power Surge boon is great with Mirrored Thrasher Hammer

[nova oar]

It's my favourite coat aspect lmao

[dapper pivot]

so idk if youve tried this but you want to just be clicking attack special attack special over and over again. don't load up your attacks and then special

[compact wharf]

yea that’s the main thing about it read the tooltip for blitz

[outer nymph]

oh

[light thicket]

Selene isnt appearing in my runs even with her charm, is this somehow related to my stage of the game? ||currently going to supposedly kill Chronos||

[minor stirrup]

People who aren't a huge fan of Selene coat, or who can't get the mineral to spawn in Chaos' rooms for the Nyx coat :P

[jolly wing]

With Static Shock

[honest plank]

still hate skull

[compact wharf]

poseidon attack exhaust riser static shock air quality

[misty isle]

also why ||zag dont got an own music? they just reused EM4 Hades||

[charred girder]

random question since I owned the game since early access but I didn't play it much through the patches, what are the biggest changes from early access?
I know the biggest one is how tools work (used to have to select them) and I also noticed that based on feedback, Chronos (battle) ||doesn't stop you pausing any more, he just whines and doesn't let you unpause for a little bit||

[honest plank]

Morrigan

[minor stirrup]

Literally just did this in a run and it was busted!

[compact wharf]

what does this have to do with morrigan

[fair void]

uh good attack boons for sickle?

[brazen condor]

Raki best birb. I love my free crits

[rare umbra]

hi, i'm pretty far into the lategame i think, and the only reagents in the recycling service that still say they are needed resources are ||shaderot and iron|| -- could anyone let me know if what they're used for is a big spoiler? and if not you can just tell me :p

[wooden basin]

i dont want to do the ||great chaos bellow|| achievement

[compact wharf]

thanatos axe? apollo aphrodite and zeus are good

[honest plank]

everything, everything involves morgan

[dapper pivot]

those changes were there in EA too, just in later updates of EA. the most major change from EA is the ending, there are very little gameplay changes

[fair void]

didnt know i could get an axe like that but got it, how about apollo's attack?

[charred girder]

yeah I meant along the way, not that there was a sudden EA to release change

[harsh haven]

Did they ever make any adjustments along the way to the trial of haste? or is it still the same level of challenge as when it was first introduced?

[outer nymph]

what are y'alls favorite starter weapon

[compact wharf]

apollo attack apollo legendary omega attack build is great on bosses, in reg rooms you can just reg hit unless you get the psychic whirlwind hammer

[dapper pivot]

oh i see. circe staff rework and persephone skull rework are the major ones. along with changes to heph's boons and how hestia's scorch works (both are slightly better)

[fair void]

Mm

[compact wharf]

blades

[outer nymph]

same

[fair void]

the sicke and dagger are sick

[dapper pivot]

oh, also momus rework but that happened pretty early on

[outer nymph]

staff is good to

blades are better though

[compact wharf]

i hate staff sm unless i’m playing anubis or a cast build

[nova oar]

Staff is goated

[outer nymph]

depend on your build

[compact wharf]

feels like i’m hitting enemies with a slightly damp piece of toilet paper with a bit of poo on it

[formal stream]

just saw victory boasting ch

[minor stirrup]

JFC I'm trying so hard to like the Moros romance but he makes it so hard. Took him fishing and he says ||'I never have quite understood the compulsion to extract water-dwelling creatures from their natural environs. I know for mortals it is sometimes necessary sustenance'|| Like okay Commander Data

[nova oar]

Skill issue

[compact wharf]

lwky most of the time i talk to moros hes just lore dumping about his sisters kinda embarrassing to have nothing to talk about but ur siblings

[outer nymph]

Thats not completley wrong

[minor stirrup]

He makes it sound like they never let him leave the house either. When in reality he accompanies every mortal for their death so he's gotta be one of the most worldly and well travelled gods out there, but his personality doesn't reflect that at all

[crystal fossil]

|| the rivals on pollyphemus is so busted bruh, he just hit me twice and the Damage over time killed me. Any tips?||

[brazen condor]

Probably kills them by talking about his sisters endlessly

[compact wharf]

ong bro

[nova oar]

You can cure the poison with the wells in the corner

[minor stirrup]

I laughed so hard

[compact wharf]

just dodge the poison/cure in corner not much you can really do tbh

[crystal fossil]

i see thats nice

[compact wharf]

what’s the most underrated boon yall think
ide say mean streak

[nova oar]

Zeus special

[compact wharf]

how’s that underrated it’s blitz </3

[nova oar]

I love spreading misinformation

[brazen condor]

Hera dash for sure totally needs a buff /s

[compact wharf]

nerf power surge

[nova oar]

Air quality and static shock kinda suck

[compact wharf]

blitz doesn’t do enough damage for how long it takes to activate

[amber minnow]

does hades 2 give you less major finds if you already have a lot of boons, like hades 1 did?
trying to figure out if using artificer early in the run 'wastes' it

[compact wharf]

no

[nova oar]

Just don't use artificer, waste of grasp

[compact wharf]

at least i don’t notice a difference but artificer is kinda poo

[brazen condor]

Ive always wondered about that. Does it just replace a major find later on with a minor find?

[compact wharf]

man i wish i could swear zeus is lit married to his sister

[nova oar]

He is

[nova oar]

Probably, idk i've never used it

[amber minnow]

in hades 1, there was a formula, probability of boons went down as you had more than expected for your level of progress

[summer summit]

where d oyou get darkness?

[compact wharf]

i like how 20% of the time someone asks a question and litterally nobody knows the answer

[compact wharf]

chaos gates, like a 30% chance

[nova oar]

Chaos

[summer summit]

gotcha tyty

[lunar rapids]

Persephone is Hades' Niece, there's a lot of that goin' around in the greek pantheon

[nova oar]

Ok but some of it you can't know without exhaustive testing or deep knowledge of the game code

[compact wharf]

and then someone asks smth that you could find by reading in the game sometimes too

[brazen condor]

What are boons? What da dog doin?

[nova oar]

Some people are incapable of doing anything but skip all the dialogue and ignoring all the hints the game gives

[minor stirrup]

I doubt it, that would really disincentivise using it

[compact wharf]

“what’s a dash strike” whatcha think

[brazen condor]

Dash from the Incredibles missed a pitch during baseball?

[compact wharf]

💔💔

[blazing sundial]

Hello, where can i report a bug?

[brazen condor]

f10 in game

[compact wharf]

f10 in game

[storm glen]

he woul ednever

[jolly wing]

I'm on night 5 when Zeus appears. Does it make the most sense to use Umbral Flames out of Staff and Knives? Omega Attack Torch can proc Power Surge and Static Shock boons.

[compact wharf]

now i look like a parrot

[storm glen]

chirp chirp

[brazen condor]

gotta blend in

I will trade you 2 cows and a parrot for your daughters hand in marrige SQUAK

[compact wharf]

knives are good with zeus static shock/attack

[nova oar]

Aye bro u want a cracker?

[chrome wyvern]

So I have a really weird question... is Posessed Array supposed to just not work with Flood Gain at all?

[storm glen]

yea thats normal i think

[chrome wyvern]

Oof

that stinks, though I can understand it being too strong

[brazen condor]

It also doesnt count as mana spent for hexes

[compact wharf]

possessed array doesn’t count for like anything

[chrome wyvern]

dang, they really nerfed it hard

[calm spindle]

What gods are good with the knives

[compact wharf]

aphrodite apollo zeus, hestia and poseidon if pan

[outer nymph]

What are y'alls favorie hex

[calm spindle]

Alr cool beans

[chrome wyvern]

Hestia with pan especially

[outer nymph]

mines lunar ray

[compact wharf]

moon water

[brazen condor]

lunar ray my beloved budget kamekameha

[idle crater]

wolf howl

[compact wharf]

i try to avoid hex like always tbh

[chrome wyvern]

Total Eclipse is fine, dark side is good for free invul windows, phase shift is pretty decent

[brazen condor]

they used to be doo doo in early EA but they good now

[chrome wyvern]

Even just getting some passives out of it is pretty alright

[dark jay]

Phase shift goated

[brazen condor]

Poly hex can get you a good amount of free global damage for just using it once

[compact wharf]

hex upgrades being on doors in summit makes me not wanna take one primarily tbh

[unique vine]

Night Bloom best hex

[compact wharf]

i don’t ever do underworld

[brazen condor]

I love causing domestic disputes using that hex

[unique vine]

do one zone with selene's amulet and max it out, your resurrected goons take 30% of your damage and their first hit ends up being 500+

[civic mural]

are we supposed to lose nectar we’ve gifted after undoing the night?

[brazen condor]

no but did you gain multiple nectar during that run making you think you had more that night then gifted it?

[outer nymph]

what devices do you all play on

[nova oar]

Laptop

[outer nymph]

nintento

[nova oar]

Use a controller tho, which is weird cause it's the only game I play with it

[brazen condor]

external ssd at the public library

[outer nymph]

cool

[idle crater]

laptop, play with keyboard

[gleaming parrot]

Wolf Howl and Twilight Curse are both pretty wild just from cost alone. Some weapons let you spam them after every single omega, literally every 1-2 seconds

[outer nymph]

?

[modern crown]

Anyone know if it is intended that the Charon shop item "breath of eros", which provides healing instead of damage on the next instance of it, doesn't stop the "doomed" curse from Chaos?

[kind cedar]

ok just beat ||typhon|| what do i do now ||zag||wont respond to me

[formal stream]

my favorite hex is when im not forced to pick one

[civic mural]

no, i make it through the first chamber, gift a god by then, and the reset cause i realize i forgot something. the nectar i gifted doesn’t return to my inventory

[formal stream]

moon water fully upgraded makes u pretty much immortal if ur not on scars 3 tho so id say thats my favorite

[outer nymph]

yea

[modern crown]

Moon water my beloved

[gritty skiff]

Aspect of eos or moros

[gleaming parrot]

I mean, if you haven't touched hexes since EA release when they were pretty bad, you're really missing out imo

Nowadays they're not just good, they're kind of broken in the sense SGG overcompensated in some regards, especially on costs for specific ones like Wolf Howl

[brazen condor]

magic is my most hated reward

[outer nymph]

your not wrong

[brazen condor]

id say f10 for a bug report if its repeatable

[devout abyss]

i keep trying to pick up the bloodstones

[tough latch]

Dumb question, do you have to unlock trial rooms or something? I don't think I've seen any in about 100 runs/20 clears or so

[gleaming parrot]

Family disputes?

[tough latch]

Yeah

[gleaming parrot]

I can't remember, unfortunately

[dusky thunder]

||I wished the Possessed Array upgrade magick loss applied towards the Hex. That would've been nice.||

[kind cedar]

Question: ||I just beat typhon and I have the 5 sands, and I’ve talked to zag enough and how the spear, what do I need to do now||?

[dusty tapir]

game will force you in the right direction

[kind cedar]

What do I need to do now, beat ||Typhon|| more?

[covert badge]

oh so ody and rival poly not be able to enter the quest dialogue was a bug

[dusky thunder]

Oh that makes sense

[dusky thunder]

Yes

[kind cedar]

Oof

[dusky thunder]

||I beat him twice before the incantation showed up||

[dusty tapir]

||If you have the stuff for the anti-typhon craft the game will force you to perform it and then (iirc) force you to the surface ||

||Oh, unless you dont have enough lenses I guess? ||

[covert badge]

it used to, in fact possessed also worked with stuff like heartthrob and righteous pike

[spare gate]

do -boss hp keepsakes affect both stages of a multi part boss or just the first stage?

[kind cedar]

Sadly this is only my second time beating him, I had a really hard time with ||prom|| and refused to go to the ||surface|| and I used my only other ||eye|| from a ||weapon unlock|| until they changed it

[covert badge]

you mean knuckle bones? only first phase

[wraith barn]

depends on what you like

[dusky thunder]

I find cast builds to be the easiest way to get to the final bosses for me

[dapper pivot]

and importantly if you mean knucklebones and are playing with fear, it will be impacted by vow of wards. so get those blue hearts gone first.

[wraith barn]

anyway i just need to do one more run for each route and ill be done the main story 🙏🙏🙏

[tepid sandal]

||Is there a way to get the Three Fates dialogue from Prometheus sooner or is it all RNG?||

[upper rover]

is Mel actually immortal?
Never seen her actually dying, only fleeing

[spare gate]

i see ty

[wraith barn]

the seperate phases are all still one healthbar iirc

and it just affects that healthbar

[spare gate]

she just makes a tactical retreat

Poor Zag has to actual die in H1 lol

[strong nymph]

man i wish Nintendo did Hades II profile icons for NSO

would cop them if they did

[meager parrot]

Honestly why does Furious Whirlwind exists as a hammer ? It's simply just a worse version of psychic whirlwind in every way. Furious whilrwind is like OooO you can move faster, BUT you can dodge AND sprint while whirlwind-ing if you have Psychic whirlwind hammer..... So like yeh dodging and sprinting is faster then a 50% movement buff.

So all furious whirlwind ends up being is basically a Hermes omega attack speed buff

Furious whirlwind : you channel your omega attack faster (10-15%) faster and move 50% faster while its active.

Psychic Whirlwind : you can perform other actions while whirl-winding

[dapper pivot]

furious whirlwind exists so i can have two chances at a decent axe experience

[wooden basin]

Poseidon giv eme your bond dude, is it like in the first game?

[meager parrot]

but i mean make it something that does something else interesting with whirlwind. atm its just a worse version of psychic

**
when you break it down

at least in EA they were trying some weird things like that hammer that let you throw your whirlwind

[dapper pivot]

oh i mean yeah but tbh i think that's more of a "psychic whirlwind is insanely busted" thing

the hammers have always been a bit funky in terms of balance. trick knives alone has deceived many people into thinking that knives are OK

[meager parrot]

ehh i mean kind of, but dps wise i would argue hell splitter + executioners chop is far more broken as a combo, then psychic whirlwind and any other boon / hammer combo for whirlwind. EXCEPT maybe appolo's double omega attack. cuz you could in theory have 4 whirlwind's going off at once., since you can do 2 whirlwinds at once with psychic whillr

[silver mantle]

Hello

[olive cedar]

any other fun builds for aspect moros apart from hera and zeus

[spice panther]

anyone know if sacrificing bridal glow (demeter boon) at the pool of purging will downgrade the boon it upgraded?

[dapper pivot]

well i'm not really talking about a combo, i mean psychic whirlwind is that girl all on her own. if you're able to ensure you get the right combo of two other hammers and/or a legendary boon, of course you can outdps it

[dapper pivot]

bridal glow is hera and no it won't downgrade it

[spice panther]

oh you're right haha whoop, I guess it's just free money then huh

[meager parrot]

fair

[dapper pivot]

ye it is. you used to be able to get it and sell it again in EA but they patched that out lol

[acoustic blade]

Hello! Its my first post ^_^

Quick question, would yall run Nova Flourish (heroic) or Vicious Flourish (Epic) in an Aspect of Pan special build?

[neon isle]

flourish, bc pan likes specials

[polar abyss]

Poseidon (Wave) or Hera (Sworn)

Poseidon has had a… complicated history with Aspect of Pan, but people claim it works again.

[empty abyss]

he gets to die. Mel cant afford that luxury

[acoustic blade]

I'm just looking at my options rn and this run is the presented options

[lean quail]

i wanna look for ||prometheus|| fanart but i dont wanna get spoiled for the rest of the gaaame...

[polar abyss]

Yeah, uh… I’d recommend you wait. There’s so many things that could count as a spoiler, and most things that are not 1.0 specific rn may not have spoilers.

Depends though at what point you’ve reached of course.

[lean quail]

||well ive fought typhon a couple times but have yet to beat him...||

[waxen nova]

goodness gracious ||jeweled pom|| is so good

[nocturne kindle]

Hey I have a full bond with Hermes but the prophecy for "the one who labors for the gods" isn't ticked off the list, any reason for that? Do I just have to keep talking to him and get it randomly?

[lunar rapids]

||Wrong guy!||

[still dagger]

I usually avoid Chaos portals if they aren't in the first region. Is there anything special I'm missing out on this way? A special interaction or something to unlock?

[snow elk]

[fresh tiger]

anyone know how to get the Unfinished Business achievement? i've ||already got oddyseus' bond as far as i can go, its locked rn, and i've done the nobody but nobody prophecy|| do i just need to do more runs? does it matter surface/underworld?

[coral harness]

Updated and launched hades 2 to get my achievements and it only gave me the first 3 or 4

It didnt give me half the stuff it should have lol, despite the fact that I know I've done a fair few of these

[tepid sandal]

wanted to bring this up again, it's regarding the Three Fates

||unlocking the epilogue|| is becoming mindnumbing at this point

[coral harness]

oh gods is it more work than the first game? 😓

[unkempt zodiac]

Game is bigger

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[late zenith]

imma wait till the ending is popularized so we can discuss how funny it is

[nova oar]

Only 2 more coat aspects and then I never have to play this weapon again

[acoustic blade]

wow, 51 dagger throws on special with aspect of Pan

that run was dirty, genuinely

I must have downed ||Typhon|| in less than 20 volleys

[nova oar]

And this is nerfed pan, it used to be way better

[coarse iron]

just finished the game... what a journey it was :')

[acoustic blade]

that with 100% ares buff, actual insanity

[acoustic blade]

heyyy me too, just did my first run after credit roll

[fair void]

erm, hera's design is awesome

[coarse iron]

i should do both up and down tomorrow since it is too late and i must sleep

[fair void]

thats all i wanted to say

[woeful stirrup]

I am doing a run through and I'm noticing that every now and then a curse is popping up and doing stuff like transmuting me into a rat or stuff like that....can anyone explain what's going on? It's happening in regular and mini-boss encounters thus far

[nova oar]

Do you have vow of fangs on

[woeful stirrup]

oh, yes.

[heavy island]

how do you || get the incant that medea is talking about, like its supposed to have something to do with cerberus tears? ||

[nova oar]

You need to beat Cerberus after getting the prophecy

[grizzled mural]

Wait without spoilers what was added for 1.0. I figured it's time I pick up the game again.

[nocturne kindle]

The internet LIED to me?! How dare they.

Okay! I'll keep plugging away, wanna get everyone anyway.

[scarlet prairie]

I haven't played much 1.0. Is Medea still the best weapon?

[scarlet prairie]

Ending sequence, some new keepsakes, familiars can have new skins, all the achievements, a Charon-esque optional boss. Generally are the big things.

[grizzled mural]

What are the requirements for the ending?

Because I believe I've already beaten chronos over ten times.

[covert badge]

pretty much one of the best, also mel staff is now the longer range version of one-two blitz pop build as well

[scarlet prairie]

Times before 1.0 don't count.

[grizzled mural]

Oh okay

[still dagger]

how do you deal with the chronos' attack where the outer circle slowly closes in entirely on the center?

[grizzled mural]

Well it shouldn't take too long ig. One run is only half an hr and it's almost the weekend.

[scarlet prairie]

All your Z-Sand and whatever the Typhon mat was got converted into decoration currency.

I think the total amount of things is like... 6 or 7 runs each on SF and UW?

[scarlet prairie]

Second phase right? You should be able to just dash through it with i-frames.

[acoustic blade]

dash thru as most effects

[scarlet prairie]

Chronos is a very dash-centric fight, most of his stuff can be dashed through.

[dire estuary]

||the outer circle stops at the inner circle in the middle of the arena so theres a small safe space in the middle you can dash into||

[grizzled mural]

Sucks that I have school. If I didn't have classes I'd probably just do one big game sesh for the ending. But I'm playing silksong rn and I can't play 2 games at once.

[idle crater]

what if you played hades 2 instead of silksong

[grizzled mural]

I'm almost done with act 2 of silksong

[summer summit]

what are good black coat builds?

[nova oar]

You're not even halfway through silksong buddy

[jolly wing]

Does Arachne ever drop Onyx dress? I'm on night 5 and that dress hasn't shown up yet.

[grizzled mural]

prob gonna take a bit of a break b4 clearing act 3

[clever rose]

im starting to think Life Savings doesn't exist. so many runs and still not seen it

[devout cairn]

She's got to eventually

Unlucky

[scarlet prairie]

Selene coat. Ares keepsake, switch to Selene keepsake in area 2. Win the game.

[dim plank]

Try giving nectar each time you meet her

[jolly wing]

I've given her 2

[grizzled mural]

Too much peak is dropping idk what to play

Hades 2 1.0 Silksong Ghost of Yotei JWE3

[jolly wing]

Zeus doesn't seem to be as good as before. His Blitz damage takes ages to proc...

[nova oar]

Why did noone tell me there was a full on metal song

[empty abyss]

YOOO THE SECRET ||"CHARON"|| FIGHT GOES CRAZYYY

[devout cairn]

Ok frinos was the reason for Typhon's unpredictable red orbs. Gonna have to replace his ass

[summer summit]

explain me dumbo

[scarlet prairie]

Selene's coat has a unique Hex, Skyfall. This Hex can have a godsent skill, but it requires Ares, so you must equp his keepsake early to guarantee you'll get it. Then, equipping Selene's keepsake allows you to rush to the Godsent square ASAP and have a very powerful Hex that can clear rooms on its own.

[summer summit]

wait whats godsent

[scarlet prairie]

Certain gods can improve each Hex if you get them before you see Selene for the first time, such as Poseidon letting Moon Water also give a 10s regen effect.

[summer summit]

ahh

[scarlet prairie]

Most are kind of middling, but Ares' one for Selene is really good.

[fringe dew]

can i ask in a mildly non spolier way where to find soot?

[wraith barn]

just ||eradicated typhon|| for the first time!! now time for ||chronos to die||

im really good at underworld so it shouldnt be very hard unless its buffed for this run

[dire estuary]

it takes a while but itll come naturally as you progress through the story

[fringe dew]

even after like 4 clears?

preem tho, thank you

[dire estuary]

you get it ||after completing the main story||

[fringe dew]

ooooooh i see

[summer summit]

i rarely use selene, whats a good skill to get for her...moon water?

[scarlet prairie]

Basically all of them.

Moon Water is Selene's best non-Skyfall Hex, try to pump up the uses you have of it.

[dire estuary]

most of them are good, i usually go for whatever godsents i happen to have

moon water and wolf howl are good for survivability

[acoustic blade]

ive really loved phase shift

[cinder wasp]

i don't like omega skills, which weapon that's don't rely on them?

[acoustic blade]

phase shift opens up some juicy dps windows and feels fun to play with (for me)

[still dagger]

Moon water is good if I'm falling squishy. My favorites are Wolf Howl and the Morph thing. Least favorite is the nuke because of how it is

[dire estuary]

i like phase shift but it needs so much magick lol

[acoustic blade]

summoning is great fun, its always nice to have those with a good magic build

[scarlet prairie]

Medea (Skull), Hidden Skull, Circe Staff, Mel Axe.

[icy tendon]

Heyy

[acoustic blade]

oh its thirsty to be sure, but i usually run it with pan, and magic is so easy to get back with that

[icy tendon]

Ares was found on the underworld? I've yet to get his keepsake lol Havent seen on a while (have cleared ||Chronos|| but not ||Typhoon||

[acoustic blade]

I've loved Madea skull, as tricky as it is for me to control

[scarlet prairie]

If you're on controller, try rolling your thumb across Attack and Special.

[acoustic blade]

Morph is really nice as well especially with those extremely annoying late run armored guys

[scarlet prairie]

You only need to see that boss, not clear, like Demeter in H1.

[covert badge]

you have to face typhon once, and ares will appear as the first boon on the next run

[icy tendon]

So next run, great, ty!

[summer summit]

is there a way to see incantations? charon just gave me one for something regarding the axe but i have no clue what

[still dagger]

true. I think they buffed it well int he launch version, morphs even strong foes and does damage to guardians I think

[still dagger]

you can see the incantations when you interact with the cauldron

[summer summit]

oh ok

[scarlet prairie]

This one is special, interact with the pool for weapons when you get back to the Crossroads.

[formal stream]

i cant get scylla singing 'i am gonna claw out your eyes and drown you to death' out of my head. its so catchy

[icy tendon]

Do a lot of surface, then u'll be done w that one 😭

[cosmic swift]

||moros wont give me the aspect raaaa||

[still dagger]

Does SG games have the same singer in their games? I know the one that voiced the girl in Transistor was phenomenal, they all are tbh

[scarlet prairie]

||He can't be your first Hidden Aspect. Make sure you've gotten at least one other HA and you have at least one non-hidden Torch aspect at Rank 5. Else, just keep cycling his dialogue).||

[cosmic swift]

||I have all of them lvl 5 for at least one varient of the weapons and still not a single hidden aspect.||

[hearty fog]

Ashley Barrett has featured in every SGG game since Bastion.

She does the singing vocals for Artemis and one of the Sirens in Scylla and the Sirens' music.

[still dagger]

I thought it was only Scylla that sang

[hearty fog]

If you take out Scylla the backup vocalists will be more noticeable.

[serene forge]

Went back to H1 after the 100% and am getting shellacked lmao

[summer summit]

so for act 3 do i keep the selene keepsake?

[scarlet prairie]

Nah, as long as you've gotten her bonus upgrades you can ditch for whatever.

[summer summit]

kk i still dont have godsent and im not sure how it activates but we'll seeeee

[crude dragon]

That's not an incantation, he just gave you something a bit more important

[crude dragon]

What Hex is it?

[summer summit]

skyfall? i have selene and ares but dunno how to get it

[late sluice]

Anyone else turn the SFX down to hear the music better? 😀

[serene forge]

You should be able to pick up the godsent option as soon as you pick up a selene upgrade. It'll be highlighted a different colour than the other path of the stars options.

[summer summit]

oh i guess im super confused..i got saturdation at the end of the path

[serene forge]

Godsent is not at the end, it's somewhere in the middle

[scarlet prairie]

Godsents are the green squares.

[summer summit]

ohhhh

[indigo tinsel]

Okay, there are some places where the ||Chronos trinket|| is just way overly good. Like, turning a +5 health mini-heart into 200 gold.

[summer summit]

oh i dont see one in my path so i guess i dont have it?

[indigo tinsel]

If you meet the requirements later, you can have it add to the path.

[lyric matrix]

You may not have the corresponding god for your hex. If you pick them up later it'll be added to the path

[summer summit]

i have ares though so thats why im so confused

[neat thicket]

wait wait wait ||so the option to purge boons via rolex is available in a trial. if i purge one does it behave like i took that gods boon or does it then let me purge the other one, skipping the trial||

[serene forge]

You have ares + the coat aspect w Skyfall, 100% no godsent? Sounds weird. Should show up with just those two without issue.

Haven't had that issue myself w any godsents

[summer summit]

wait whats the coat aspect maybe thats what im missing

[lyric matrix]

If you got Ares after it should show up on your next path of stars, provided you have godsents unlocked

[serene forge]

Skyfall is a hex that only appears when you take the aspect of selene on the coat

Are you perhaps using the Hestia hex that causes a 1000 damage explosion to fall from the sky?

[summer summit]

im using the healing one right now

[serene forge]

Ah, yeah. Each hex has a specific god that godsent appears for.

[summer summit]

oh ok

[serene forge]

You're looking for Poseidon with moon water.

[scarlet prairie]

Beams go Brrrrr.
https://imgur.com/a/Hks3jQc

Do imgur links not embed now.....

[unkempt zodiac]

Aspect of persephone doesn't seem to be synergizing as I'd expect with ||jeweled pom||

Not seeing any even higher level boon offerings

[zealous wing]

how can I get better at learning how to build? I see people with ridiculous builds by the time they even reach eris but my runs usually dont pick up until olympus if even then

[heavy island]

hmm, im still not able to get medea's incant. i || did a underworld run and beat cerberus again. do i need some other conditions? ||

[indigo tinsel]

Rerolls?

[zealous wing]

is there a strategy to knowing what to re roll? usually I like any boon I can get but im not sure if theres certain stuff I should be rerolling

[cinder wasp]

which boon that's u always pick in general run?

[scarlet prairie]

1. Don't focus on boon rarity. Focus on what fits best. If you're trying to get Origination online then a common boon with a curse is better than an Epic one without.

2. Abuse the Gods' keepsakes. Fixing your build in Erebus/City is really, really easy and free to do.

3. Not all gods work on all weapons. For example, Hestia's scorch works very well on weapons with rapid attacks (blades, torches, maybe Skulls) but would be very bad for Axe. Meanwhile, bigger percent damage increases (Aphro) are good for hits with big power but lower speed.

4. Try to keep a balance of Power and Percentage increases. They compliment each other well. For example, you might want Hestia's Slow Cooker if you have a good build with an already high percentage boon on your attack or special.

5. Just experiment and you'll get better on knowing what works for your weapon, aspect, and playstyle.

[unkempt zodiac]

1. Activate origination
2. Be aware of which attack and special boons work best with each weapon
3. Make use of furies/huntress
4. Be generally aware of some key duo boons like freezer burn

When I put activate origination at #1 there is a very big reason. Activating origination is the biggest thing you can do that isn't something you'll necessarily do passively

[serene forge]

Skip origination and just run Charon axe with any and every cast and omega cast boon you see

[unkempt zodiac]

That works too lmao

[scarlet prairie]

Orig still benefits Charon Axe :p

[zealous wing]

thank you! ive been using the witches staff for the longest time but thanatos is very fun to play but ive been having such a difficult time with boons

also is hephaestus blasts good for axe? theyre kinda my preferred boon atm

[unkempt zodiac]

Honestly idk what even happened to make me good at building but it used to be I never got clean wins and now I barely think about it and consistently am able to do enough damage to easily hit time 3

[fair void]

is temporal fluctuation necessary to beat chronos

[unkempt zodiac]

I don't remember what that is exactly but I don't think so (?)

[scarlet prairie]

He's like. Fine? But generally you can always do better than him.

[fair void]

also how do i go about going down and up? should i beat chronos once before trying for the surface

[uneven cosmos]

what was the purpose of melinoe's "crop dust" whenever she dashes? i wonder why supergiant didn't create a boon effect for that

[unkempt zodiac]

Do whatever. It'll work out story wise.

[fair void]

aight wont get it then, i like the challenge

[zealous wing]

ahh right, and I do have to find a good synergy with arcanas ive kinda just been using whatever

[scarlet prairie]

If wanna run Axe I probably run something like Aphro.

[fair void]

alrighty, thanks

[unkempt zodiac]

Personally I usually go back and forth so I never get too bored

[zealous wing]

I do like aphro the most generally out of the other gods but she just never gives me good boons

[fair void]

ill try that then

another question, when did yall finally beat chronos

[scarlet prairie]

https://imgur.com/a/NPwWH1O

If you want a generic "good Arcana setup" here's something. You can swap out Lovers for Huntress and Swift Runner or Messenger if you think you don't need it.

[unkempt zodiac]

Run 5 for me (I had a lot of playtime in h1)

[fair void]

DAMN

[quiet mountain]

I just beat him an hour ago, completed the main task

[fair void]

i finished the first one with 32 heat weeks before this game and im still struggling

[vocal adder]

Omfg did they buffed scorch again!? even on low fear I dont remember it being this strong!

[zealous wing]

oh thank you very much!! should I focus on maxxing grasp? ive kinda just been ignoring psyche and get it whenever I can but not sure if its super neccesary

[scarlet prairie]

You can also replace Strength with Death if you want.

[fair void]

how many runs did it take?

[unkempt zodiac]

For me I think h2 just clicked a lot better

H2 feels super intuitive for me

[scarlet prairie]

Maximizing Grasp should be one of your first earlygame goals IMO. So many things become easier when you have 30 of it.

[quiet mountain]

I played for the entirety of early access, so my run count is aggressively inflated.

[fair void]

fair makes sense

[fair void]

Mm

[neat thicket]

welp just did my first medea clear ever, and i can see why people like it but its also definitely not meant for full rng

[zealous wing]

yeah I assumed so, thanks for all the help!!

[unkempt zodiac]

I actually did 32 heat after 32 fear, it was 32 fear that gave ne the confidence for 32 heat

[fair void]

soo which was harder

[neat thicket]

i am officially 50% done the achievements too

[wraith barn]

just reached the credits
peak cinema

[unkempt zodiac]

32 heat is harder and I'm quite confident in that

[scarlet prairie]

Of course! Hades 2 can be very intimidating but I think it becomes a lot easier when you have 30 Grasp and a good loadout. If you're coming from H1, I'd also recommend trying Strength over Death. it's very fun.

[fair void]

oh

[unkempt zodiac]

Mel just gets super op compared to zag

[mossy badger]

i keep being greedy in this game because hades 1 let you do so, so i keep charging omega in front of enemies who attack faster 🙁

[fair void]

during my 32 heat runs, i turned on em4 so i died a LOT more than i should have

[scarlet prairie]

I think 32H is harder than 32F UW but easier than 32F SF.

[unkempt zodiac]

Here's the thing: h1 has some really annoying regular enemies

[fair void]

useless ego

[scarlet prairie]

Depending on what you take anyway.

[wraith barn]

i feel in general diff wise its
h2 underworld > h1 > h2 surface

[unkempt zodiac]

Very much agree, I think the gap between the three is reasonably large

[wraith barn]

opposite way i did it wrong

[fair void]

i still dont know how to play the second game properly, like which boons to choose and which hex to pick and all that

[unkempt zodiac]

Surface h2 has so many hard enemies

[quiet mountain]

Yeah, was just about to say it felt the opposite for me 😄

[scarlet prairie]

H1 did also have literally 2 free EMs meanwhile I feel like VoR is harder for every (except Eris...) boss in a pretty meaningful way.

[fair void]

elysium is just pain

[brazen condor]

IMO hardest to easiest: VoR UW> VoR Surface > Surface > UW

[unkempt zodiac]

Tbh just skip hexes if you aren't committing. Or use moon water since it's such a strong crutch

[fair void]

so was poison, poison giga sucked

[wraith barn]

doing my final surface run before my final underworld run was funny bc typhon makes chronos feel like a miniboss

[scarlet prairie]

32H H1 is just Tartarus and Asphodel are easy, Elysium is where you spend 80% of your time and then Styx just pray for 2 path bag.

[fair void]

yeah they havent been very helpful so far

[quiet mountain]

Night Bloom is an excellent hex to use. Having an extra minion doing damage can really help against some bosses.

[fair void]

cool though

[acoustic blade]

it feels so good to have ||tail of typhon|| completely locked down and every move read after all the trouble I had with it

[unkempt zodiac]

Most suck at base

[scarlet prairie]

Hexes really want at least Path of Stars.

[fair void]

Mm

[scarlet prairie]

This kind of sucks though since that is 2 Selene rewards you have to take. But they can be supremely game-breaking.

If you commit they can be build defining but if you don't.... eh?

[wraith barn]

is there more story after the credits or am i officially done the story

[fair void]

i think i need to know which boons benifit which weapons, like say how artemis helped with nemesis sword and how eris rail liked zues in hades 1

[quiet mountain]

Its rare that you only take one deity's boons only once, so why not take Selene's twice?

[unkempt zodiac]

Extremely relatable. I still suck at spawn but the others aren't so bad anymore

[acoustic blade]

theres still some there

[dire estuary]

a bit more but not that much

[acoustic blade]

dont forget your friends and lovers ^_^ plenty of story there too

[scarlet prairie]

Because Selene is kinda low on the priority list most of the time. Usually I'd prefer HP, MP, or money over her.

[fair void]

is there an epilogue to this game?

[livid wharf]

SGG should have make a built in game complete meter because the steam one does not reflect how far we've progressed. like steam does not track chaos trial and the 3 statues challenges for fear thingy

[quiet mountain]

There's still some stuff on the Fated List you can't do until after the credits

[neat thicket]

god damn aspect of anubis without a special boon (and chaos preventing attack) cannot handle the miniboss in erebus lol

[quiet mountain]

I find Anubis' aspect is actually best with Omega Attack, rather than special. I melted everything with Nova Strike on it, for extra area.

[dire estuary]

yes

[unkempt zodiac]

Hestia and poseidon on fast attacking weapons, Zeus and hephaestus on things you can trigger occasionally (usually a special), aphro on melee, the rest just kinda work more broadly on regular attack speed stuff

[neat thicket]

i know omega attack builds exist but i really like apollo legendary on the special lol

[fair void]

oh nice

[livid wharf]

yeaah selene usually work better if i use weapons require a lot omega attack such as superior supay (provided i got a lot of mana lol)

[brazen condor]

Hera attack anubis with chain lighting ❤️

[scarlet prairie]

Anubis OAttack is crazy lol.

[livid wharf]

i remember people said Anubis Special is real crazy due to very fast animations

[quiet mountain]

It is prety fast

[scarlet prairie]

If anything stays in it for like 2 seconds it just dies. Get a good boon on it and you can kinda just AFK some rooms after you set your field down.

[brazen condor]

Yeah it feels like older staff special

[quiet mountain]

The special also drags enemies in closer, so you can omega attack them

[wooden basin]

5 achievements left

[fair void]

fast attacking ones are torch, skull and daggers yeah? so pos and hestia for them and for axe, i should get aphro or apollo

[livid wharf]

i have done my game, now i can rest .... the hardest part actually is max out Circe's bond

[neat thicket]

it also really helps when the game works to build you around the special, +73% damage from chaos and a attack speed hammer

[unkempt zodiac]

Axe I use aphro Apollo or sometimes Hera if I can't find the others

[wraith barn]

although skull is fast i prefer percentages on attack like hera or aphro bc of high base dmg

[fair void]

Mm

[scarlet prairie]

Hera is always a good filler God to see. She has the best Mana Regen in the game but otherwise she's just generically good enough you can never go wrong with her.

[unkempt zodiac]

Also use God keepsakes they're really good in this game

[fair void]

noted

[quiet mountain]

I pretty much had that in my last game-winning run. Nova Strike at +200%, Rallying Cry, Slow Cooker at +22, and Hermes' damage boon. And the double omega attack mirror boon from the hammer. I did one omega attack at the start of Chrono's second phase and he lost half his HP by the time it expired

[unkempt zodiac]

I kinda hate God keepsakes in h1 but in h2 they're so great

[fair void]

got it

[livid wharf]

i like Demeter Axe attack so i can stagger foes for perform my 3rd atk slam (that animation is long)

[unkempt zodiac]

Fair and based

[fair void]

why? they work about the same no?

[brazen condor]

double special hammer and ricochet hammer turns the thing into a machine gun

[tight bridge]

hi guys ive got a question regarding the postgame quest ||'melinoe seek us'||: ||currently the only unfufilled part of that is 'he who labours for the gods', but I already have max relationship with heracles and I've talked to him a couple times and theres been nothing there. is this a bug or am i just being impatient/wrong||

[fair void]

oh rarify, forgot it

[crude dragon]

Just impatient

[tight bridge]

okay i thought there was a pretty good chance of that thank you

also while im here: ||WHY DOES ICARUS LITERALLY NEVER SHOW UP IN THE CROSSROADS this is so brutal hes literally my little guy and hes NEVER here||

[untold wren]

hey does anyone have specifics on where we can find the infernal pact to || fight zagreus ||

[quiet mountain]

I haven't done it yet, but sometimes the narrative code decides to not progress things and you have to do another run. It can be a little random

[livid wharf]

just talk i guess, ||last time beta max out with Heracles also took me a lot of Rival 3 just to progress that thing||

[brazen condor]

visit every shop and pray

[dire estuary]

||let my man be free 🙏 ||

[untold wren]

Like I know it shows up in the shop but i wanna beat him a second time || does it show up only in erebus and oceanus? does it show up on the surface ever? ||

[tight bridge]

||no. i wanna kiss him||

[livid wharf]

mid shop actually, does final shop have that?

[untold wren]

|| im told it doesnt show in any final shops ||

[dire estuary]

final shop does not, mid shops only

[crude dragon]

||Erebus, Oceanus, Thessaly, and Olympus midshops. Probably also Fields midshop if you actually get it to spawn||

[livid wharf]

||yes surface shop have that|| i died once when i trying to meet Circe, i should not press the buttons lol.|| i already max out bond with zag that time||

[untold wren]

Okay so my best chance at a build is upstairs

[thin island]

came into the server to ask the exact question that is being discussed, nice

[dire estuary]

thessaly midshop is a bit rare vs fountain or circe so youll be more likely to find it underworld

[untold wren]

yeah, but I keep dying to him in erebus and not finding the shop in oceanus

[fair void]

clicked on something i shouldnt have, grubby fingers

[untold wren]

i feel this

[storm haven]

I Had it spawn More often on ||thesally|| then underworld xD

[brazen condor]

Vow of spoilers - impossible in this channel

[livid wharf]

well when you keep running just to meet 1 NPCS, i already half asleep when in the game due to .... boredom. that's why my finger itchy lol

[thin island]

(Im not sure why yall dont spoiler even vague answers to spoilered questions lol)

[dire estuary]

i stayed away from this server for the first few days just for spoilers

[brazen condor]

if we all collectively spoil everything there wont be a need for spoilers Big Brain /s

[thin island]

true!

[unkempt zodiac]

I wish ||Jeweled pom|| worked (well) with judgement so much

The full rng build would be great

[livid wharf]

i like Prometheus quote for this lol
||enjoy the process of grinding it soemthing, since he already knew the outcome lol||

[brazen condor]

I love full rng build because I rarely care what I get. If it does dmg it makes me happy

[thin island]

okay back to beating the everloving crap out of chronos i go

[unkempt zodiac]

There was a time where I only ran judgement with egg, circe, icarus

[livid wharf]

don't reminds me the pain of chaos trial with full RNGs

[dry ivy]

Can someone give me a quick explanation of how the Oath of the Unseen works? Besides obviously just increasing difficulty for fun, how do the rewards work? Are they specifically only for Testaments? e.g. if I have a testament for 👁️ and I go win Out with maximum Fear, I don't actually get anything for that because it wasn't the testament?

[brazen condor]

?? only trial i remember with any actual difficulty was trail of doom

[fair void]

fair lol

[unkempt zodiac]

Testaments is the main thing. There's some story progression you need fear for (specifically rivals 3 I think, which isnt available at first)

[scarlet prairie]

You can only do one bounty per night.

[livid wharf]

32 fears is pain

[scarlet prairie]

If you do 20 Fear but your bounty is a 4 fear Hecate, you're just doing 20 for fun.

[fair void]

xD

[fair void]

i would as well but to be blunt, only this chat feels alive here

[dry ivy]

I assume testaments will roughly alternate Up and Out to keep things fresh?

[fair void]

new player chat is rough

[scarlet prairie]

Generally yeah.

[dire estuary]

yep

[dry ivy]

ty

[crude dragon]

I thought Judgement excluded the reroll cards when you've got one of the post-game keepsakes. That not the case?

[scarlet prairie]

Your last 2 bounties will always be a 16 and 20 fear and they're gonna be Chronos and Typhon (with each weapon being different for which is which) so prep for that.

[dry ivy]

The amount of Silver required for Mel aspects feels excessive; it keeps pulling me to go Out instead of Up

[crude dragon]

Yeah, you really gotta hope Narc's letting you offload some of his spare jewelry every time you see him

[storm haven]

Ngl would have been cool if it would have been kept at 32 for the last one for each weapon

[scarlet prairie]

Testaments never went to 32, only the statues ever did.

32F Typhon can genuinely be awful so I see why they nerfed the SF statue too lol.

[crude dragon]

To say nothing of Prom

[storm haven]

Ohhh true it was the statues
Completely miss remembered that

[fair void]

tried to beat chronos faster by specifically choosing the underground route but seeing im already past run 20, better to beat him naturally when i could while alternating between surface and underground ig

[scarlet prairie]

Prommy and Typhon are menaces.

[fair void]

already lost the bragging rights when i went past run 10 😔

[storm haven]

Prom most BS Boss
Give me my Personal space pls, especially when doing an Axe rum

[scarlet prairie]

Prommy is my favorite boss in the game tbh.

Every fight against him feels so fun but God can he be a jerk.

[storm haven]

When i play a fast weapon the fight is a lot More fun xD

[scarlet prairie]

The meme during EA was constantly "there are no fast weapons in H2" and then people got good.

[hexed steeple]

lol I remember no fast weapons, knives existed all along lololol

[crude dragon]

Axe existed all along

[storm haven]

Peak
Always "complain" until you get gud

[scarlet prairie]

Everything was slow to people.

[hexed steeple]

Axe, you had to learn how to dash strike >> special >> dash strike

[scarlet prairie]

Skulls were slow, Coat was slow, Knives were slow, Staff was slow.

[hexed steeple]

Otherwise you got married to your swings

[brazen condor]

Whats the trick to doing mouring fields fast? I always lose so much time there

[hexed steeple]

Kill everything quickly

[storm haven]

True
Things like staff were Just either LClick Spam Or RClick Spam depending on the build
With Some dashes if needed

[scarlet prairie]

Room 1 -> Miniboss -> Echo -> Second Room -> Shop

Take that exact path and it's quick.

[storm haven]

Echo Best character

[hexed steeple]

knives were always fun for me

EA pan knives was a legit war crime in a box

[scarlet prairie]

I miss EA Pan.

[storm haven]

Absolutely
Some Poseidon special and win

[novel turtle]

I just got to the final shop with 4.8k thanks to double chaos boons of bonus gold and quick buck 😂

[scarlet prairie]

But yeah the "no fast weapons" meme in EA was genuinely awful because so many people belived it for no reason.

[hexed steeple]

I just finished a run where I managed to get 100% Sea Star by the halfway point of the rift

[mental fjord]

Is the xinth hidden aspect's block not working?

[hexed steeple]

needless to say, my Apollo axe attack was at like, Lv.19 or something lol

[storm haven]

Btw does the rank shade have any purpose except to get rid of Mats?

[hexed steeple]

Frontal quadrant only

doesnt block everything, either

[mental fjord]

the barrage enemy in mourning fields? I swear it hit me through it

[alpine vale]

is trandsendant embryo bug or something it keeps giving me the same blessing every run

[hexed steeple]

If he gets around your side / past the shield’s hitbox before pushback, then he can damage you

but you shouldn’t lean on shield

[scarlet prairie]

If you quit and spawn back at the crossroads your RNG seed is the same so you'll get the same boon.

[hexed steeple]

It’s handy when you need it, but getting out of the way or firing off the rocket punch is a better play, imo. And I play a lot of Xinth.

[crude dragon]

There are maps in the speedrunning Discord if you want to check there sometimes, but it's mostly "find the tree and turn it on"

[hexed steeple]

Have you unlocked Selene’s aspect

[summer summit]

cool got to try skyfall, i need to work up the arm but i see the potential

[alpine vale]

ive killed typhon 3 times in a row and its the same every time i do a completely new run

[mental fjord]

yeah, but what does that have to do with anything?

[summer summit]

what arms are good with the hephaestus boon? like i rarely use his boon

[hexed steeple]

Take her keepsake and max it out, then start runs with it when you’re using Selene coat

[crude dragon]

They're pretty weapon-independent, TBH

[hexed steeple]

You’ll start the run with +8 upgrade, which guarantees maxing it out before you’re done

[crude dragon]

Like, you care far more about the Duos once you've decided on a clang build

[summer summit]

the boon proc is so slow i dunno when it becomes useful

[peak moat]

persephone skull is very good with its extra pom and sprouted special, hidden axe aspect works well because of heph legendary synergy, and daggers hidden aspect works well with the extra burst damage it provides

[hexed steeple]

It’s really good imo, I do a ton of work with it

[icy pulsar]

It is my fourth door in Ephyra with Thanatos aspect. I only have purple Nova Strike, no other boons, and have gotten three poms. This run is gonna be neat

[crude dragon]

Around the point where you can constantly keep Glow active (whatever level/rarity combo gets you down to a 4-second cooldown)

The max cooldown is 2 seconds, so you do want to try and get all the way there

[peak moat]

the most important thing about heph blasts is to stack as many poms as possible on it until the cooldown is at its minimum (2 seconds)

[crude dragon]

Also, Mom skull can be nice to get a clang run started since it has the chance for free poms

[icy pulsar]

Poseidon is pretty good for Heph. Sea Star hours be like-

[crude dragon]

TBF, it's Than axe, you don't really need that much else besides a good Attack boon

[hexed steeple]

If your starting rarity on the heph boon isn’t epic, don’t bother imo - pom investment is really high and it’ll cause other potential benefits to be deprioritized

[crude dragon]

Also their Duo to further reduce the clangs' cooldown

[hexed steeple]

unless you got sea star

[scarlet prairie]

100%. Heph is the most greedy God in the game and not worth it.

[hexed steeple]

then, go for it, ha ha, yesss

[summer summit]

What is poms?

[hexed steeple]

Pomegranate

[peak moat]

power-up poms, the little pomegranates that boost your boons on your runs

[summer summit]

Gotcha…i guess ill try a run tomorrow

[icy pulsar]

The minute I posted that, I ran into a Hera boon that wanted to replace Apollo. I now have a Lv4 Heroic attack boon before even getting halfway done with the first surface area

[hexed steeple]

Heroic Hera attack on axe? Get ready to murder whole rooms.

[peak moat]

rip apollo legendary 💔

[icy pulsar]

There's also a Zeus door so I can probably try for Queen's Ransom later on

[still acorn]

I got to the epilogue before even getting the incantation for the final vow of rivals.. that doesn't seem right

[scarlet prairie]

Heph makes the best use of Poms in theory but it takes a lot for them to matter and other Gods use them just fine for one pom (like Aphro).

[hexed steeple]

ppl sleep on hitch paired with big hit weapons

[scarlet prairie]

If you aren't continuously doing VoR runs then yeah. That seems right.

[icy pulsar]

That's why I started a new save tbh. Didn't want to risk missing anything

[still acorn]

I always had them on, even if I didn't need that much heat

[hexed steeple]

Yeah, you need like, 8 Poms to make Heph as reliable as a 2 pom boosted boon from any other god lol

now, his cast, otoh

[crude dragon]

Nah, he can carry a run on his back with just the clangs if you get it down low enough that Glow's always active, even before considering Duos

But good Lord, getting it up and going can be torture

[hexed steeple]

Anvil Ring slams imo

[stone lion]

How to get the seed reset incantation? I've finished story, killed both ||typhoon and chronos multiple times each after that, i even killed chronos vow and faced typhoon vow|| i have 16 fear on surface and 32 on underworld. Is wiki outdated?

[hexed steeple]

idk

[buoyant matrix]

the wiki is outdated for most stuff yeah

[scarlet prairie]

Heph Cast has grounds for one of the best in the game.

It's sad it's locked to. Heph.

[buoyant matrix]

what i remember is killing each end boss 7 times, getting the second statue and having done a bunch of specific incantations

[peak moat]

do you have Insight Into Offerings, Favored of All Keepsakes and Spreading the Ashes unlocked (thats what the wiki says are prereqs at least)

[stone lion]

yeah

[peak moat]

ok i got nothing 💔

[hexed steeple]

lol that’s how I feel about cardio gain

[scarlet prairie]

Scorch is at least 1/2 orig proc lol.

[peak moat]

hestia shade is wild scorch is completely insane

[scarlet prairie]

And she has Slow Cooker too which you can build toward.

[heavy island]

askin again, || what do you have to do to get the cerberus tears incant for medea? ||

[hexed steeple]

I don’t really dig it, although slow cooker slaps

[scarlet prairie]

EA Scorch was really bad for like most of the EA lifespan so I still sometimes avoid it lol.

[hexed steeple]

all of her other stuff is good, even scorch is fine, but it’s not my go-to

[peak moat]

fair enough, i play alot of eos and nyx so im probably biased towards scorch

[buoyant matrix]

beat cerb with +10 fear then go to the second page of cauldron i think?

[scarlet prairie]

I wish Eos was good :(

[storm haven]

If i Just want to get a run Done its Axe that lets your cast explode With lucid gain

As long as i dont Do ||zag|| im fine

[peak moat]

eos is so good you just gotta learn the gameplay loop

[heavy island]

ok thanks, i was missing the fear part

[buoyant matrix]

it is

[hexed steeple]

I lean on hitch and pair it with another damage source, ideally blitz + static shock

[scarlet prairie]

Eos is fun but I wouldn't call it good, especially compared to the other Torch aspects.

[buoyant matrix]

remember you can always check the prophecy list

[buoyant matrix]

eos is fun and it's good compared to the other aspects

[scarlet prairie]

Moros exists.

[buoyant matrix]

and I'd put eos right after

[scarlet prairie]

Moros and Supay are at least better than Eos tbh.

[peak moat]

with the night arcana and on-hit on the specials you can get really incredible damage thats honestly comparable to moros

[buoyant matrix]

supay isn't imo

[hexed steeple]

Supay takes a while to get going, but once it’s there, it does some serious work

[scarlet prairie]

I miss pre-nerf Supay :(

[novel turtle]

I need to stop using Toula, my cat is getting confused hearing another cat

[hexed steeple]

I like where 1.0’s weapon balance is - everything is functional enough to build a strong run off of it

[buoyant matrix]

the ever reliable headphones:

[scarlet prairie]

You should stop using Toula anyway because she is bad 😔

[merry whale]

toula is actually peak

[peak moat]

now this one im taking personally

[scarlet prairie]

I use Strength.

[hexed steeple]

Yeah as a proud member of team raki, I have to agree

[merry whale]

yea and i play 3dds with strength

[buoyant matrix]

alicia no offense, i think you're still stuck in early access. you have to move on 😭

[peak moat]

ok fair toula does suck with strength

[novel turtle]

I neeed bones so more feeshing lmao, I'd put on my headphones but my one roommate has been enjoying coming into my room and watching me play lmao

[scarlet prairie]

She turns off Strength for a bad DD!!! If you want more HP just take Frinos!!!!!!

[hexed steeple]

I wish Hecuba was more combat oriented

[buoyant matrix]

but damage!!!

[amber crater]

Does anyone know if there is a SUPER late-game incantation or a need for Iron, Iris, Shaderot, Myrtle, or Ashes/Psyche? I'm Post-Epilogue (100% Achievements, All Bonds Forged, All Upgrades Done) yet the Broker says that I may still need those items for future use. It's not related to Decorations as I've bought almost all of them...wondering if that's a glitch or there's something I somehow missed that requires that.

[scarlet prairie]

Raki?

[hexed steeple]

Yessssss hail the bird

[peak moat]

toula is great early damage irregardless of aspect which is very useful for stuff like supay or builds that take a while to get going

[scarlet prairie]

IDK I'm a filthy Gale user so.

[buoyant matrix]

toula is more consistent, especially early run

[novel turtle]

Also making Chronos mad because Toula hits him is funny af

[scarlet prairie]

Gale is still the best familiar.

[merry whale]

gale finds more value on surface, otherwise i rather take frinos or raki into uw

[peak moat]

im not good enough at the game to make use of gale all my blocks are gone by the 6th room

[scarlet prairie]

Gale > Raki > Hecuba = Frinos (depends on weapon) > Toula.

[hexed steeple]

Same. Not quite that far, but close.

[crude dragon]

Weird way to say Raki

[merry whale]

also i really dislike hecuba LOL i don't like how her only use case is magick

[buoyant matrix]

hecuba equal to the amphibian 🥀💔