h2-discussion

[mossy tangle]

Understandable haha

[nova oar]

Then just play no fear

[mossy tangle]

tbf, Fear runs are completely optional, you don't need to do them unless you want to

[plucky dew]

lowkey ||eris|| is easier with rivals than without once u understand the new patterns

[mossy tangle]

it's not like you'll be locked out of content if you do

[thorn bobcat]

They took away Chronos not letting you pause the game? I thought it was so good.

[nova oar]

Alot of people in the community do but it's not really representative of the general playerbase

[woeful stirrup]

I default to 20 fear unless I want to get some kind of quest thing or mat farming done

[woeful stirrup]

I liked it too; laughed out loud when I first started playing the game

[slim pike]

Unrivalled version only

[thorn bobcat]

saaame! I started a new game waiting for it and he did let me pause... Idk why they took it away 🙁

[hexed rose]

To unlock the hidden aspect of a weapon, you just need to unlock the 5th rank of any aspect, then talk to the related npc until he speaks the right dialogue ?

[spare tinsel]

yes

[nova oar]

Any non mel aspect

[hexed rose]

Ahhh thats it

sad my fav on the axe is mel aspect by far

[thick coral]

what do you guys think is worth more? the strength arcana card or death defiances

[hexed rose]

sister blades also x)

[nova oar]

Depends on personal preference, dd gives more health, strength gives better healing and more damage

[mossy tangle]

Whatever floats your boat, really. I rarely lose DDs on underworld but I kinda need them on surface

[nova oar]

I just always run strength, but dd's are a little better for high fear cause you need to get hit as little as possible anyway

[trim spindle]

the optimal strategy for DDs on the surface is to lose them all on prometheus and then equip the athena keepsake and pray to the heavens

[rose canyon]

Wait do we have regional ally's questlines like in Hades?

[nova oar]

Huh

[trim spindle]

it always pays off

[nova oar]

Why would you do that

[strong nymph]

That one enemy in the Fields of Mourning that frequently restores its health sucks 😭

[mossy tangle]

Or run Strength + her keepsake and pray for her DD boon to show up

[rose canyon]

Things like Eurydice and Orphy stuff or the Heroes

[strong nymph]

Literally like playing Dark Souls if I may add

[trim spindle]

because sometimes you lose a death defiance or two to prometheus and make the drastic decision to go all in

[nova oar]

I never use dd's

[rare marten]

DO NOT SCAM ACHIEVEMENTS!!!!!! I got the achievement for unlocking a skin for each familiar and then accidentally reverted it by giving up in a run, so while I had the achievement on steam I did NOT have it flagged in game. thats why the final one wouldnt unlock for me

[nova oar]

Not really no

[strong nymph]

how do i stop it?

[hexed rose]

we need nightmare to upgrade every single non Mel aspect...

[nova oar]

Don't get hit

[lilac sapphire]

Hades is officially my favourite character, his arc is so good

[nova oar]

Yep, go do testaments

[plucky dew]

its lifesteal so just nohit it

[rose canyon]

And bonemaxx for that sweet limited quantity nightmare

[mossy tangle]

Or you can grind Charon cards and buy nightmare from there. It takes longer but it's an option if you don't want to do fear runs.

There are also prophecies in the Fated List which will give you Nightmare.

[rapid plaza]

eventually you can order nightmares from charon or buy them from the broker

[nova oar]

You don't need to do rivals?

[rose canyon]

So uh
Strength

Will try a run with it but I'm stupid so I'll probably die early

[tawny void]

How does Aphrodite's extra damage to nearby foes work with Momus Staff's Ω attacks?
Does it count as nearby if the foe is close to the Ω recaster but far from me?

Edit: sadly they do not 😔

[mossy tangle]

you don't need to do fear runs, made a mistake and edited it 😛

[lucid bronze]

also chance to find some in the final shops

[cinder wasp]

how do you dodge the spinny boomerang chronos scythe move?

[nova oar]

Although it only goes up to 20 so it's not really that bad

[mossy tangle]

time your dashes and look out for attack patterns, use cast often for crowd control

[nova oar]

Stand in front of him

[elfin heron]

I do not know if the devs read this but thank you for making the game.

[cinder wasp]

i did and still get hit

[nova oar]

You stood too close

[uneven raft]

getting hit from prom's fire projectile from off screen is about as fun as puting your eyes in sulphur

[mossy tangle]

Observe the movement of his scythe. You want to stand in front of him but not too close, and a bit to the opposite side of the initial swing

[strong nymph]

Finally did it, thanks!

[lucid bronze]

just don’t get goobed by the chronos insta kill and you’ll be fine

[mossy tangle]

Any EA players here? Remember what Chronos is used to be when EA launched?

[rose canyon]

Haven't got hit by it for a while

[mossy tangle]

With little to no telegraphing in his attacks? That was painful. And he hit like a truck too

[uncut galleon]

i had so many runs where i was breezing through everything only to get demolished by chronos

[plucky dew]

im a strength hater, itd force me to give up toula and thats not happening

[uneven raft]

i like that they closed the fedback channel as if the game is perfect lmao

[mossy tangle]

perfectly valid reason there

[mossy tangle]

The feedback channel served its purpose. Now that early access is done, there's no reason to maintain it

[uncut galleon]

they closed it because early access is over, weird accussation

[devout cairn]

is one of the main purposes of chaos trials to farm gift giving? Cuz this is going fast

[mossy tangle]

Let's see you clear great chaos above 😛

[devout cairn]

i should've mentioned the first like, 15 trials atleast

[smoky rover]

how is sale price determined for rewards?

[uneven raft]

some things imo are still way out of place but it is what it is its not the only game out there thank God

[rose canyon]

Playing Strength no DDs and Chaos gives me Pauper's Defiance lmao

[minor stirrup]

If you order something from the Shrine of Hermes but hit the end of the run before the number of encounters needed for it to arrive, do the items still come?

[mossy tangle]

Well no game will be perfect but you do you

[cinder gorge]

extreme measures sirens defeated, man that song is pure perfection

[smoky rover]

Yes. Hermes delivers them to the final shop before Typhon

[haughty patrol]

Faster Omega move speed (e.g. Racing Thoughts from Hermes) and channeling speed (e.g. Revelation from Chaos) are the same: faster channeling.

[cinder gorge]

surprising to see they're still easier than EM polyphemus though

[rose canyon]

"We're Scylla and the Sirens, everybody!"

[haughty patrol]

is this true?

[smoky rover]

Also, what is the maximum "rank" unlocked at the broker?

[slim pike]

it is

[uncut galleon]

there's rarely a game out there that's perfect

they aren't obligated to work on it until every person on this planet is happy with it. they're allowed to move on, and so are you

[haughty patrol]

thanks, wld really help if they just use "channeling speed" consistently

[chrome grove]

||Question how do you unlock the finals weapons of each of the aspects after youve actived the night and darkness hex Ive gotten a single aspect of each weapon upgraded to level five execpt the staff and the black coat yet I havent been able to trigger any dialouge for these weapons even my friend who have relatively the same playtime as I is also confused cause weve both been playing since beta yet he has access to these weapons but I unfortunately dont any help would be appreciated||

[smoky rover]

are you quite certain it is only channel speed, and it doesn't improve projectile/lock-on speed with something like coat special or movement speed with skulls special?

[haughty patrol]

this is wad i wanna know too

[rose canyon]

That's a really long spoiler text

[edgy wharf]

How can I increase the familiar bond, already unlocked cat, frog and dog but haven't seen any incantations to unlock it.

[smoky rover]

and not a single comma in sight

[cinder gorge]

hecate gives you the incantation at one point, in erebus

[chrome grove]

I dont want any new players to get spoiled plus ive been scourging the internet on info related to my question but no help so far

[cinder gorge]

it procced for me only after I unlocked the dog and squirrel too

[edgy wharf]

so just keep talking with her so I will unlock it? Or I have to unlock other familiars to see it

[chrome grove]

If anyone knows and can help Id appreciate it

[slim pike]

That's not affected by channelling time

[cinder gorge]

not entirely sure. I'm still missing 1 pet so I don't think it's tied to that. Probably just keep fighting her

[livid wharf]

i personally think the big chop (axe daedalus, final sequence) is the worse skill ever, the stagger animation is way too long

[little frost]

squirrel :c

[rapid plaza]

it can be great if you take it after the "final attack hits twice" hammer

[edgy wharf]

||you mean the hiddden aspect? need to upgrade 1 aspect of its nocturnal arm to level 5 and talk to a specific NPC to unlock it||

[smoky rover]

you need some attack speed for it. especially if you take vow of frenzy

[rose canyon]

Wait regular Hecate doesn't throw Morph?

[merry whale]

regular hecate should throw morph, it can be eaten if u happen to have frinos

[livid wharf]

yeah i got 10% from hermes but still not fast lol. normal hit is more reliable lol because stagger enemy and i can perform 3rd slam

[chrome grove]

||so like for the skulls id have to upgrade madeas skull to five and then talk to madea?||

[rose canyon]

Figures

[crude dragon]

||They changed it to needing one of the aspects that takes Nightmare to be the one at rank 5, apparently||

[nova oar]

Yes

[edgy wharf]

||Yea, but keep in mind that the talking part is random so you may not unlock it even though you already upgraded the weapon to level 5||

[chrome grove]

||so having base mel weapon upgraded to 5 does matter it would have to be there correlating weapon to character||

[empty abyss]

you people are speaking Early Access language or some

[crude dragon]

||It doesn't have to correlate, but apparently Mel aspect at rank 5 is no longer valid||

[chrome grove]

Im confused by that

[merry whale]

burnt offering

[nova oar]

I don't think it ever has been unless it was changed

[chrome grove]

Thats kinda disheartening

[crude dragon]

It was in Unseen and the 1.0 patch notes have a line that says they changed it

[nova oar]

Ew

[cinder gorge]

nah

[rapid plaza]

I miss giving hera's bridal gift to burnt offering

[chrome grove]

||so basically and weapon at rank 5 except mels will do||

[umbral meadow]

hey guys iv a questions for my black coat, ive got selene at rank 5 and got the words from selene but i still couldn't unlock the blackcoat 4

[crude dragon]

||Yes, and have all 3 unlocked||

[chrome grove]

copy ty guys

[crude dragon]

||Do you have Nyx Coat unlocked. Also, the Hex has to be a room reward and not from a shop||

[umbral meadow]

i used the same way unlocking the staff 4but no use for coat4

[umbral meadow]

yes i retry but still failed

[cinder gorge]

so I'm kinda curious, how do you get protoplasm?

I unlocked aspect of nyx in EA, when it needed just nightmare, saw my friend streaming and noticed that's a thing now

[crude dragon]

Probably something from Chaos

[umbral meadow]

thanks guy, ive got it very appreciate you

[still phoenix]

Is it just me or is kudos harder to farm than H1 mats for decoration?

[crude dragon]

While you still have incantations to do, it is

[cinder gorge]

I have like 600 kudos from z-sand and void lens, and still can't decorate the crossroads

[hard anchor]

Does attack boons (+x% with god's effect like freeze or apollo's aoe) also buff the omega attack?

[crude dragon]

Yes

[rose canyon]

||Bewitching Eyes|| was so cool 🥹

[empty abyss]

ngl it wouldve been cool for morally gray Mel

[hard anchor]

nice

okay 1 more kill and I can do the typhon killing incantation

[serene stone]

That ending is kind of... goofy, but nice and wholesome. I suppose. xD

Also great in explaining why the game continues.

[minor stirrup]

If your Fear level exceeds the requirement for completing a Testament, do you still get the Nightmare when you kill that boss?

[spark nest]

I just unlocked Arcana, unseen. Its supposed to change the look of the arcana cards. How do i do that? im confused

[spark nest]

pretty sure yes

[minor stirrup]

You unlock the alternate card appearances fairly far into the game, through ||advancing a lot of dialogue|| with ||Dora|| that then unlocks a new kind of ||shop where you can buy the card backing||

[empty abyss]

uhm ||Is Chronos high on chrome rn? I just saw bro playing Family||

[spark nest]

Thank you

[serene stone]

Took me about 60 nights to get the decoration

Wouldn't say it's fairly early, more dependant on when certain convos happen

[minor stirrup]

Oof! I'm just about to buy it on night 33

[serene stone]

Wait, not 60. 50.

[empty abyss]

HOLD DON?

[serene stone]

But, to be fair... I've just beat the game on night 51 so.

[empty abyss]

||Chronos deadass turned a new leaf???||

[serene stone]

Main Story, I mean xD

[serene stone]

||The power of love||

[still phoenix]

Go join h2-story-discussion my guy

[pure otter]

How do you get the ability to reset seed? I thought it was beating 16fear Underworld but that didnt unlock it for me

[jolly wing]

I restarted Night 3 so I can aim for early Sea Star boon to get more Silver to get both Tablet of Peace and Silver Spade before Night 4 run.

[buoyant matrix]

beat chronos and typhon 7 times each

[maiden dagger]

Wide Grin for Mel Skull is an insta-loss, right?

[keen thunder]

Why?

[maiden dagger]

cuz it wouldn't proc the effect of mel skull

Unless they changed it. Cuz mel skull gets power for each skull not yet retrieved

[tawdry rock]

||i just finished the main story but i still havent found the 3 fates, and also what do i do now that i finished the game? heard theres extra content and stuff ||

[misty isle]

So how to unlock the Denizens of the Depths? i already fished everything
but the prophecy didnt appear

[lucid shadow]

where does ||zagreus|| appear exactly? i just got him and died to him in area 3 of the surface, how about underground?

[outer delta]

||His contract where you fight him appears randomly in the shop sometimes or what do you mean?||

[lucid shadow]

||does he appear in all shops for each region?||

[late zenith]

imagine going to McDonalds and asking the cashier that you would want to have whatever the hell the writers were high on while making the ending for Hades 2

[outer delta]

||I got him in Oceanus, beat him and have never seen him since so I'm not sure||

[outer delta]

I totally agree but you should probably head to story discussion

[late zenith]

aight babe

[hallow vault]

Hades reached a new Peak

[jolly wing]

For basic Knives starting hammer, which is useful?

• Omega Special shoots straight
• 150% Back Attacks
• 15% Specials bounce to 2 more foes

[hallow vault]

112k

[minor stirrup]

This server needs an Eris emoji so I can react with it whenever someone says babe

[hallow vault]

For me Hades 2 is a 9.5/10

[outer delta]

Really depends on your playstyle I guess for just left click def 150% to back attacks, if you use any of the others go for them I guess

[devout cairn]

if it's at the very start go back attack

[hallow vault]

Only flaw is the weird Ending but the Rest is absolute Peak

[minor stirrup]

Back attacks can be amazing if you try to position your attacks to take advantage of it. Use the omega special to get in behind stuff if it's not safe to just run up

[hallow vault]

It has Amazing Characters and they are greatly written tne Music needs no explanation and the Artstyle too and its fun af

[outer delta]

For real I think Hades 2 improves on everything except that ending

[hallow vault]

S+ Tier Roguelike

[verbal rampart]

Now that EA has ended, can someone tell me is fishes are useful for something else than bones-exchange?

[late zenith]

that ending is hilariously funny so it gets a pass

[hallow vault]

Doesnt ruin the Game for me i think its still amazing and i hope it will be nominated for GOTY

[late zenith]

Dopamine Hit

[verbal rampart]

Cool!

[misty isle]

So how to unlock the Denizens of the Depths? i already fished everything
but the prophecy didnt appear

[misty isle]

no it aint
it is sad

[jolly wing]

Or should I switch to Staff instead?

• +300% Omega Special damage
• Dash Strike Melt Armor
• +50% Damage Omega Special

[outer delta]

||yassified chronos art took me out||

[minor stirrup]

Definitely skip omega special shooting straight on normal aspect, you mostly want to be doing normal attacks with the normal special peppered in. Omega special needs a specific aspect and specific boons to get worthwhile

[hallow vault]

Best Art direction at the GOTY prices will be so peak

[outer delta]

Yeah everything else is absolutely amazing I'll def 100% the game

[late zenith]

Chronos Satyrs we know its you

[hallow vault]

Cause idfk who gets it omao

[misty isle]

lmao

[hallow vault]

Like Hades 2 Expedition 33 and Skong look like Paintings

Best Soundtrack will be crazy too cause these 3 have an Godtier Soundtrack

[outer delta]

Still need to play the other 2 So I can't say

Tho Skong looks like it's not for me

[hallow vault]

Christopher Larkin,Darren Korb,Toby Fox and Chris from Risk of Rain are my Favorite composers

The worst Thing is 2/4 will be nominated probably 😭😭

[outer delta]

Concerned Ape is up there for me Stardew Soundtrack goes beyond crazy

[hallow vault]

Darren Korb deserves an Award

[late zenith]

Darren Korb is mogging with Olympus Aflame

[hallow vault]

But tbh so does Christopher Larkin and also the Composer of E33 😭😭

It would be funny if Skong and Hades 2 would be nominated imma be honest i Love both ans idfk what i would pick

[hard anchor]

I got the last void lens!

[lucid shadow]

u should listen to more classical if u love korb and larkin! tchaikovsky is very similar to larkin and for korb u can take a look at the metal influences he has

[hard anchor]

Its time to kill the monster daddy!

[vernal escarp]

Does anyone know if you can "get to know" Prometheus by talking to him inside the Chaos Trials? (for the purposes of ||Melinoe, Seek Us|| prophecy)

[hallow vault]

Christopher and Darren are so talented

[dusty pulsar]

Finally got to the ending. 10/10 game, even better than the first in my opinion and I thought that was impossible!

[hallow vault]

Both carry their Games hard af what would Hollow Knight be without City of Tears Moment and Hades without In the blood or the Soundtrack

[jolly wing]

How are these starting hammers for Staff?

[minor stirrup]

I saw that touring concert where the London Philharmonic was performing the OST, my entire friend group of like 6 people went. Tickets sold out worldwide within minutes of becoming available, I was so lucky to get enough for all of us. It was magical, incredible to hear it that way

[dull talon]

When it comes to favourite composers, I'm not sure if anyone will ever topple ZUN from the #1 spot for me

[minor stirrup]

IXION has one of the best OSTs I've ever heard and it's never talked about because IXION is a niche game

[outer delta]

Yoo I wish that sounds awesome

[minor stirrup]

It was so cool! Highly recommend trying to snatch tickets if something like it ever happens again

[dull talon]

I was able to listen to my country's philharmonic orchestra group perform the Elden Ring OST, it was an unforgettable experience

[minor stirrup]

Oh wow!! That sounds amazing, the Elden Ring OST absolutely slaps

I love the Bloodborne OST as well, Ludwig The Holy Blade 🙏

[deft gust]

ahh you were there at my side all along

[rose canyon]

Got to the new ||Scylla's song|| but didn't get to unlock it on The Crossroads. Unplayable

[paper marsh]

whatst the best olympian curse for eos? blitz?

[smoky rover]

does Life/Wealth from the dead work once per encounter, or once per floor?

[rapid plaza]

encounter and i think wealth is twice/encounter

[buoyant matrix]

i think they're once per location actually

[smoky rover]

and translation issues should be in #h2-feedback, yes?

[wispy wren]

Funny, bugged or something. Between act 1 and act2 i meet ||chronos|| you know like in the begining when we first met, he is not visible, you know. But funny, i killed him 4 times and between act 1 and 2 he still act like we met for the first time xD

[rapid plaza]

that channel is closed now. I don't know where you would put it

[empty abyss]

I cant wait to rescue the three fates tho. 5 fear here I come!

[strong nymph]

Funny story, Hades 2 was once given an MA15+ in Australia due to "sexualized imagery"

[buoyant panther]

Just curious, does anybody know if the 1.0 version on Epic Game Store has DRM post-install like the Steam version does? It apparently didn't during EA but hasn't been confirmed post-1.0. Thanks 🙂

[buoyant matrix]

aphrodite

[native iron]

That’s Gotta be it.

[strong nymph]

Could have also added a descriptor for violent images (because yk, Ares is literally covered in blood)

[olive cedar]

whats a good build for aspect of hel

[gleaming parrot]

Depends on what hammers you get imo

[crude dragon]

Generally, Poseidon/Hestia attack and Hera/Zeus special

[west fossil]

Yep. Or Ares special, for GB/plasma on wounds.

For the super machine gun build.

[formal merlin]

Pure scorch for memes

[pine sand]

Why is steam telling me that only 0.7% of players have earned 1000 gold from completing against nemesis
that can't possibly be right, I'm still pretty new to the game

[olive cedar]

it says for me 0.1% have cleared erebus

[meager garden]

it's more like 30%

[shrewd geyser]

People who haven’t launched the game since 1.0 haven’t got the achievements, I assume a vast portion of players played a bunch in EA but haven’t launched the 1.0 yet

[meager garden]

steam achievements are bugged and the stats aren't updating properly

[pine sand]

okay that makes sense

[meager garden]

you can sorta glimpse the real numbers sometimes, last I saw Erebus had a 28% clear rate, 16% have done tartarus, and 2% was Rivals 4

[little mason]

They haven't beat the game yet

I found out by reading the description

[elfin heron]

is darkness appearance boosted by some familiar or they dont matter for it?

[pure otter]

How do you unlock the ability to reset seed? Someone said I need to clear both regions 7 times each, but i have like 30combined cleared and still cant do it

[buoyant matrix]

also have the second fear statue

[pure otter]

have it

[meager garden]

who?

[buoyant matrix]

and there's an incantation you should've done, i think the one that lets you hold 6 arcana loadouts

[crude dragon]

Gale, since it's essentially the flower for the region

[urban isle]

hey guys, what am I to do to progress Odysseus relationship plz ? Says he may be interested in ambrosia after he settles up with old acquaintances. I dont have the prophecy with scylla yet, only did the polyphemus one.

[meager garden]

I think ||knucklebones to circe, maybe||

[rose canyon]

I unequiped discordant bell why is the damage still going up help-

[meager garden]

it shouldn't? it should just keep at that number

[rose canyon]

I unequiped it after Eris and it was at 9.6% or sum but it just kept increasing during Olympus 😭 16% before Prom

[gleaming furnace]

hey everyone, the chaos trials that i did not tried before the launch aren´t appearing for me, is this happening with anyone else?

[dull talon]

||Damn, Chronos scythe throw on VR4 is brutal, screwed up once and instantly lost 60+ health||

[cinder wasp]

How do you kill the dumb rat without taking damage?

[rose canyon]

Boy I do not want to go against the big bad suffering 23% extra damage or something

[meager garden]

oh yeah it's so nasty

[maiden dagger]

I tried using hera dash with supay because I heard it's good, but it feels pretty wonky, am I missing something?

[pure otter]

Can someone answer? Im confused

[maiden dagger]

Cuz it only does the damage once, since it can't reproc the hitch

[meager garden]

maybe you need epilogue now. Or talk to hecate, I think she gives it to you

[maiden dagger]

It's an incantation

[meager garden]

hera dash does a big hit of damage. Supay then uses hitch to deal crazy room clearing damage

[maiden dagger]

I guess that works, but it looks terrible for bosses

[meager garden]

If you have Hera dash you can't just use dash for your damage, it's not like hestia

[pure otter]

well shes not giving it to me..

[meager garden]

Supay's main damage can be omega special, it's pretty good

I dont' really play it like a dashpect and it works fine

[desert hound]

||guys you gotta die to the sirens with odysseus keepsake to get the three fates ?||

[maiden dagger]

Requirements are: Insight Into Offerings, Favored of All Keepsakes, Spreading the Ashes, both paths at 16 fear, and both bosses beaten 7 times each

[rose canyon]

Playing Supay rn, should I change my hitch attack (epic) for a blast attack with 4s cooldown?

[meager garden]

no

[maiden dagger]

||Use Moros keepsake, die in oceanus then beat the encounter within the 10s, do that three times||

[wispy wren]

Damn, the game doesn't have save protection against power outages. I had good run... Sad

[desert hound]

||yeye i meant moros idk why i said odysseus ? thanks||

[buoyant matrix]

he has a total of two attacks, both of which are predictable

[maiden dagger]

It does. Every time you enter a room, a temp save is made. All you have to do is delete (or move it if you want to be safe) your profile1.sav file, then rename the profile1_Temp.sav into profile1.sav

[wispy wren]

Oh, i started already new run.. So i think i fu up.

[maiden dagger]

Well, at least you know for next time

[winged geyser]

do you guys know how to unlock ||Chids||? I imagine maxing relationships but idk which characters have one

[wispy wren]

Good to know for future tho. Sadly i need to work with files, i thought i would back to the point where i log out or maybe my power

[olive cedar]

just had such a fun build with aspect of hel, ares legendary with a bunch of plasma boons + hermes epic attack speed boon, literal machine gun

[maiden dagger]

It's pretty easy. Just go to your Users/[ComputerName]/Saved Games/Hades II folder, and there you can move profile1.sav outside the folder, then rename the profile1_Temp.sav into profile1.sav

[sonic frigate]

Okay how do i access greater chaos below? I no longer have the option to play it.

[ebon oak]

Well, now I've 100%ed Hades II. After 430 hours, it is finished.

[brave urchin]

Does Fate's Whim work when you just spam rerolls away?

[fallow nebula]

Hello

[brave urchin]

Or you really have to not start with them?

[ebon oak]

I really expected something other than ||just an aknowledgement from Hecate and Nyx|| for reaching max prestige.

[golden solar]

So how do I get the last 1.0 keepsake? I have || Chronos' and Hades' ||

[fresh tiger]

||zag||

[desert hound]

||fighting zagreus (hes found on the mid shops on the underworlds)||

[golden solar]

I fought him, won too

[desert hound]

2 or 3 times

[fresh tiger]

||I found him in Erebus lol||

[proper oar]

was the epilogue more exciting than the ending itself plz say yes

[desert hound]

i got it in 2

[brave urchin]

When does ||he appear? I am in 12 runs post credits have not seen him ever||

[desert hound]

||u beat the game ?||

[fresh tiger]

|| at Charon shops, not the one before guardians sometimes you'll see an internal contract sign it and you'll fight zag||

[ebon oak]

You have to start with no Reroll Arcana (Artificer doesn't count and is fine) and equiping any Olympian Keepsake sans Dionysus removes any buffs from Fate's Whim Keepsakes moving forward in the night (Also, you can't equip Fate's Whim Keepsakes anymore that night).

[ebon oak]

You're gonna be disapointed.

[meager garden]

did you like the ending

[proper oar]

not in the slightest, i still give the game the utmost praise but man, lackluster finish to the narrative

[meager garden]

ok yeah the epilogue will not save it for you

[proper oar]

well at least the game is incredibly fun

[brave urchin]

Another question: I am 120 nights in, why am I never getting Narcissus "Life savings"? Does this has requirement?

[proper oar]

me same but im thinking its because its a DD refill and no one loses DD before encountering him (idk if this is what it actually is just my best guess)

[brave urchin]

omfg... i never got it cus I was not lacking a DD.....

[meager garden]

correct

[ebon oak]

||Getting the true ending is literally doing an arbitrary thing that you can easily mess up, but is not a challenge or test of skill, that just gives you a "yeah, about that" and an end card. It also makes Chronos' whole ambition ironic, as it unveils what the Three Fates' had planned.||

[faint aurora]

I got scammed Breath of Eros is supposed to heal me the next time i take damage instead. Chaos's pact that deals 500 damage if i dont clear 2 rooms in 120 secs didnt care. seems like a oversight?

[proper oar]

well shoot cant wait

[ebon oak]

Chaos and Doom ignore Eros so you can't cheese it.

[faint aurora]

Does it say that anywhere?

[limpid gulch]

does Mirrored Ankh actually double O-attack damage?

eg if you fire it at Typhon?

[ebon oak]

Not sure.

[wet nebula]

no rerolls

[eager void]

how many death defiances you can have? I'm having such trouble staying alive bc I never have enough health

[rose canyon]

I've gotten 3 from Arcana, 2 from Toula and 1 from Lucky tooth

Luck_ier_ tooth

[midnight notch]

Damn man Fire is really taking its time with the damage output against big enemies 😄

[rapid glade]

Can I reset Ephyra repeatedly to force Medea to appear? Need a waking phrase

[rose canyon]

Getting closer and closer to the ending :]

[eager void]

talking abt arcana, I have one 0 cost but I can't equip it, do you know why that happens?

[cyan tangle]

do i buy hades 1 from steam since its on sale or play with xbox gamepass on pc

oh wait this is hades 2 sorry

[rapid plaza]

the 0 cost arcana have special ways to activate

[crude dragon]

No, since the stuff is seeded

[rapid glade]

Dang

[eager void]

its a different way for each card?

[crude dragon]

Read the description and it'll tell you what you need to do to turn it on

[meager garden]

yeah

[eager void]

I missed this o_O

thx guys

another thing. the familiar encantation still didn't show up for me. is that normal? I already did what the wiki says we have to do

[meager garden]

requirements have changed, we don't know the exact new ones

[eager void]

oh no

[meager garden]

you should try to get 4 familiars before you can upgrade them

[naive torrent]

Olympus should have rooms with mechs and rooms without mechs but if they are in the same room they should attack each other

[crude dragon]

They do

[meager garden]

do they damage each other after aggroing on you

[naive torrent]

Huh really

[harsh anchor]

Good grief, new file, got to olympus....why is so freaking hard ?

[quartz copper]

||I've beaten the game, and done one run on each route after, but the fates prophecy hasn't changed. Do I js keep playing until it does? Thought it'd change after beating both again||

[quartz copper]

It's so hard when you first get there compared to the underworld

[fresh tiger]

||which prophecy?||

[rose canyon]

Dw I spent an embarrassingly long time before my brain clicked regarding the "means of activation" for the arcana

[outer delta]

What do I have to do to gift ||Zagreus, I got the epilouge and already beat him in the fight||

[fresh tiger]

||nothing just beat him a few times||

[harsh anchor]

reached Typhon once and my 2nd attemp lost my death defiance to Eris...to freaking eris and die pretty quick on Olympus o.O, at least I have all 6 weapons but I never unlocked the secret aspects on EA, just waited for the game to release 1.0

[outer delta]

Alright thank you!

[snow elk]

[rose canyon]

It was only 21.6% but I got hit a lot regardless...

[harsh anchor]

the black coat has grow on me, its really cool.

[rose canyon]

any tips for it? haven't cleared neither route with it

[harsh anchor]

well i spam the Omegas

if I cant i spam normal Special, the missiles

[quartz copper]

It gets much easier when you beat him once

Once I beat him once Ive only lost once, before that I was getting whipped bad

[meager garden]

get a boon on both attack and special, mash attack and special at once

[winter oak]

On || The mountain || even the basic enemies are really hard to fight

[harsh anchor]

The damage I take in olympus is just Insane, like 22 or 25 damage per hit not to mention those annoying big birds

[quartz copper]

I've never lost to chronos once since I beat him the first time

[potent current]

Apollo's dash is new Athena's dash

[quartz copper]

Best bet is use torches for range and get hearts I think

[harsh anchor]

wasn't his dash really strong since EA?

[devout cairn]

rivals cerberus first try with 3 HP left I feel like I learned nothing, so much stuff going on

[winter oak]

All content should be doable with all weapons, I will not stop until I beat every boss with every weapon

[crude dragon]

It's got competition now that Hitch sprint is back to being an AoE

[minor stirrup]

I confronted ||Polyphemus with the Knucklebones|| like the prophecy told me to, but there was no special dialogue or anything and the prophecy was not completed. What gives D: (mid to late game story and prophecy spoilers)

[harsh anchor]

so just like OG hades with Heat 12 for every weapon

[outer delta]

Yeah it's very doable! Only thing giving me trouble is skulls haha

[harsh anchor]

Skulls is super busted with the the proper tech

[crude dragon]

Not even proper tech, TBH. You can just mag-dump and Special on repeat for Mel and mom skull

[harsh anchor]

if you use a controller you just swipe your thumb between the Special and the attack button but is very easy to lose yourself between all the dashes, but the dps is super good

[rose canyon]

Blinding Rush ftw

[outer delta]

Medea is easy but for the "beat the game with every aspect" achievment I have to play the others too :(

[harsh anchor]

Is there any HARD mode Aspect like in hades 1?

[winter oak]

With the base aspect just get the hammer that makes your skulls come back instantly then get fire on basic attacks and enjoy life with the new adamant rail

[harsh anchor]

if memory doesn't fail me, hades 1 the very first secret aspect was from the spear and it really sucked, like on purpose, made clearing with it very difficult

[crude dragon]

Spear was fantastic once you got it to rank 5 and your HP penalty was only 50%

[midnight notch]

God i killed Prometheus for the first time but needed 2 extra lifes...
With fire.
It took its time lol but i managed after all. with Dark side tho

[outer delta]

rail was also my least favorite weapon in hades 1 so I think those types just dont fit my playstyle well lol

[torpid arrow]

i unlocked the oath of unseen, but i do i need to use it at first? is it tied to weapons like h1?

[harsh anchor]

his hit box is still as wonky, that's what gets everyone

[naive torrent]

Is the axe upgrade where it replaces your attack with only the third attack and does 300 damage bait when ever i take it seems much worse than normal?

[crude dragon]

It is

[winter oak]

THE BIRD

[midnight notch]

i like his moveset, but the 3 AOE fields are annoying.
Im not here for memory training man 😄

[crude dragon]

Oh, Hell Splitter is awful if you're not planning around it from the get-go

[gloomy cobalt]

Hey, what's the OST for the ||Zagreus arena|| fight? Thanks.
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxY0eaC2j9E Scylla cover, when?

[dusty temple]

man the ending

[rose canyon]

Everything I read about Rivals Cerb makes me think "wth"

[daring kernel]

how do you do the ||unfamiliar forms|| achievement? ||I have 300 runs on my save file, but don't see a way to customize pets :(||

[harsh anchor]

hot take...I don't like fighting him

[crude dragon]

||Max out all the pets, talk to Circe||

[rose canyon]

Using Dark Side during the memory game is funny

[midnight notch]

His Moves are expecable to some extend, there are clearwindows to attack and reason is given to keep disatance at times and use the arena size

[midnight notch]

Hey man, as long as it works 😄

[crude dragon]

FWIW, he's the hardest fight in the game outside of Rivals Chronos

[rough horizon]

Does Moros need a special trigger for the waking phrase? Got all the others, but he seems intent in picking other dialogue and not giving it to me

[gloomy cobalt]

Any music enjoyers?
Does anyone know the name of the song? ||https://youtu.be/8MmqPQoDOF8?si=caLKRlYoszffB1RL&t=55||

[rose canyon]

are all of the rivals fights AOE merchants?

[crude dragon]

The Unseen Ones

[gloomy cobalt]

Thanks a lot!

[plain remnant]

Wait how did I not notice 3/4 surface rivals get help from another character...

[rose canyon]

Also
Why did they change Prestige to Kudos

[potent current]

Yeah but i like daze more

[potent current]

Hell yeah

[naive torrent]

Is Prometheus memorization attack allways 3 the first time and 5 the second time or is it random?

[midnight notch]

3 first 5 second. no more than that

Fire on Daggers is fun for a while but waiting for enemies to die and dodge for seconds on end is annoying after a while.
things should die quicker, 999 in the backlog will still get you hurt while waiting

[simple sierra]

postending spoilers endgame || what is the notriety rank? where can i see the effect of it? ||

[west fossil]

Imagine if VoR gave him an extra phase, with a 7 wave memory game.

[midnight notch]

yes, no at that point im taking notes to my side xD

[hollow lion]

how do i unlock the ability to get kudos?

[spare gate]

I accidentally stayed up until 5am playing. This game is a masterpiece.

[devout cairn]

it's a very wth is going on kind of fight

[fair void]

|| AWW FRINOS HOPPING AROUND IS SO CUTE ||

[cursive nacelle]

get further in the game, basically

[crude dragon]

The former, the randomness is in what lanes he hits

[hollow lion]

i've beat the main story and i'm just wondering what point you need to get to for it

[crude dragon]

Make sure you have something that strips wards, BTW

[icy token]

I’m about to start hades 2!! I am so excited, I just finished hades 1’s epilogue

[dull sage]

ive been going to the surface for like 10 runs ive been turning on and off rivals 3 but i haven't gotten heracles or prom for the fated list quest any tips for it?

[cursive nacelle]

IIRC you need an incatation

[unkempt zodiac]

Prepare yourself for peak

[hollow lion]

XD i figured but do you know what causes that incantation to appear?

[crude dragon]

Talking to Dora enough times

[hollow lion]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[fair void]

uhhh question
||i saw charlie playing hades and he got visited by eris at the end of erebus in his second run while she justs visits me in the crossroads after my 12th or so run ||

is this normal

[hollow lion]

||if you're winning too fast eris turns up to nerf you a bit XD||

[fair void]

ahh

[crude dragon]

It's something that happens early on to make beating the game in your first few attempts a lot less likely

[fair void]

damn i suck 😭

[fair void]

Mm makes sense

[icy token]

I am getting chills from this, Melinoe feels a lot smoother than Zagreus

[unkempt zodiac]

When Mel hits stuff they don't fly across the room :)

[serene stone]

Unless Poseidon lends a hand.

[unkempt zodiac]

Not even, due to how his splash works in this game

[fair void]

i used to spam nemesis so hard in hades 1 that my thumb used to get numb

glad there isnt much spamming in this game although it was my was favourite playstyle

[neat frigate]

Did 1.0 fix hearty appetite, does anyone know?

[fair void]

can i know how i can get thalamus

[crude dragon]

Chaos

[fair void]

oh

[remote warren]

Is there somewhere someone can direct me to read the nuances of the boons/fate cards

[fair void]

should go down instead up, got it
already have the moss

[crude dragon]

Yeah, once you have the Moss, there's no point going up top until you've done Unraveling

[night abyss]

If I get a mid-boss and a mid-shop offered at the same time, can I take the shop and then the boss?

[plucky birch]

did you ever get the crow? im on night like 130, all pets upgraded, and ive never seen this mf

i know its in erebus in the fountain room, but i just legit never find this room

[fair void]

i barely done like 14 attempts but i saw it like 3 times already lol

[crude dragon]

Yeah, there's a chance another midboss door spawns after the shop

[fair void]

its the white crow right

[sonic marsh]

NOPE ://////////////

[fair void]

||i thought it was a spy of chronos or something 😭 ||

[crude dragon]

Isn't it fun that despite all the feedback about Raki's unlock being tied to RNG, they still didn't move him to the post-Erebus fountain?

[plucky birch]

super fun, big fan, love it

[crude dragon]

Yep, that's the one

[dim cosmos]

do we know any info about the soundtrack coming to DSPs?

[fair void]

i gotta make sure to give it the cookie before rnjesus does me dirty

[sonic marsh]

im at night 60 0 sighting of crow

[plucky birch]

and we have to encounter it twice right? incredible game design

[crude dragon]

Best part is that since you never interacted with him when you first saw him, you have to find him twice

[fair void]

uhh i petted him twice, does it not count?

[crude dragon]

Okay, so you did pet him. You should be good, then

[fair void]

thank god

[plucky birch]

i assume it would be better to just suicide at first boss then right?

[uncut ferry]

So uh, when 1.0 dropped, we lost all the final boss currency we got, right? did it get exchanged with something?

[plucky birch]

so lame

[crude dragon]

Yeah, got turned to the currency you use for camp decorations

[crude dragon]

Yeah, unless you need to farm materials from later zones

[uncut ferry]

I'm just annoyed that I killed ||Typhon|| like 200 times and I can't get my rank up cuz I don't have his ||eyes|| or whateter Orz

[crude dragon]

(And I'd recommend doing so, you're gonna need a lot of nectar for pet upgrades)

[crude dragon]

That would be why they did it, so you can't sequence break the ending

[jolly wing]

How good is +300% damage Omega Special Hammerf forBase Staff? In early run, night 4.

Is Aprhodite Special the base Boon for it?

And is Dual Y Hammer the 2nd best hammer for this build?

[fair void]

LMAO i got the crow now

[crude dragon]

Giga Moonburst requires a second channel to use, so it's a bit awkward. It also doesn't play particularly nice with Aphrodite since it'd be an additive increase, and Cross Cataclysm is kinda whatever

[fair void]

what are the odds

[crude dragon]

Dual Moonshot is a better hammer for base staff

[jolly wing]

It’s not a starting hammer option

[outer delta]

How do the waking phrases work? Do I have to have the weapon equipped?

[finite oracle]

I beat chronos 😮 death to chronos!!

[hasty mortar]

Does anyone else think (1.0) ||Zagreus'|| voice delivery feels a little weak?

[hard anchor]

Genuine Question, Does hades 2 feel easier than hades 1 or am I just a smarter person and not a dumb teenager anymore

[crude dragon]

You need to have a non-Mel aspect at rank 5, and go talk to a specific NPC per weapon. You don't need to have the weapon equipped, though

[outer delta]

I think it's much harder lol

[hidden ether]

hey I know this an annoying question ||but can anybody lend me their completed save with everything in 1.0 unlocked please?||

[crude dragon]

You have experience from the last game

[wraith barn]

probably that + you got better by playing the first game

[hard anchor]

I reached Hades once on 3 death defies then never again. I had like 37 hours in that game.

Hades 2 felt a lot easier thanks to the Omega moves

[wraith barn]

imo id say in both games the underworld feels about the same but surface is way harder than anything in h1

at least at 0 fear and heat respectively

[hard anchor]

... okay, maybe I was just stupid during hades 1 XD

[sonic marsh]

I GOT THE BIRD

well not get, just encountered, gotta meet him again one more time

[uncut galleon]

mostly it's good but ||compared to h1 - yeah some of it sounded off. kind of flat and the accent seemed less natural. maybe he had difficulties to get back into the role?

like, the first time you hear him before seeing him i didn't think "zagreus!" i thought "what is royce from transistor doing here?"||

[brave urchin]

[winged geyser]

what do ||ranks bestowed|| do? or is it just a way to spend kudos because you have a lot to spare? 😭

[rose canyon]

How do you use Momus tf

[crude dragon]

Cycle between your Omegas

[strong fern]

my game got updated but no patch notes so far

[uncut galleon]

yes, ||post-game resource dump||

[winged geyser]

LMAO

I just wasted ||2 ranks then. There are cuter things to get at least||

[jolly hound]

I got my first win in half the time this go around, but that’s because I knew the general gist of this one going into it

[icy blade]

are there any notes for the patch I just downloaded?

[dusty tapir]

Yeah I was about to ask the exact same thing

[winged geyser]

and do you guys know how to get more ||chids? I got icharus, eris, dora, nem and moros but Idk what others there are or how to get them||

[shy sparrow]

Can anyone help me with the ||epilogue||. I figured out 3 of them but i dont know who else i am supposed to be talking to. Like i dont know how to advance and i kinda want to be done with the game already.

[whole ledge]

if I have way too much nectar, can I sell it or do anything with them? I don't have anyone else to gift it to anymore

[signal fable]

Finally returning to game what we have after chronos wanna learn

[uncut galleon]

i'm not entirely sure but i think you need to ||forge a bond with the characters to be able to get the chids||

[hollow lion]

||Do you get anything from gifting nectar to nyx or is it just a waste?||

[uncut galleon]

i think it was ||increase your bond with moros, prometheus and chronos.

most people were missing chronos - you can meet him in the area between erebus and oceanus and gift him there. if he hasn't shown up yet, it's probably not a bug, just do more runs||

[spare tinsel]

theyre on steam

[spare tinsel]

you can sell it to the broker for Kudos, but those are also useless after a bit. Better to keep them and watch the number go up

[polar abyss]

I think they mean the hotfix that just went out

[shy sparrow]

||prometheus || What? how? i mean alright. I guess ill just keep killing dude i guess.

[bronze oak]

Probably just minor bug fixes if there's no notes

[winged geyser]

same question

[polar abyss]

They mean to speak to them

[uncut galleon]

yeah, sorry for not being clear

[polar abyss]

||You can’t actually bond with Prom like other characters. But you do have to fight him /speak to him for the Fate quest line||

[meager garden]

They patched olympian keepsake bug! Onion will be less of nightmare now!

[unique fjord]

Is there a way to see progress on the || Fair Fight - 1,000 gold won vs. Nemesis || achievement?

[shy sparrow]

Thanks all.

[oak current]

the chaos trial has disappeared?

the grater chaos trials

[spare tinsel]

you unlock them later, i only just got them

[severe mantle]

||jeweled pom|| would be one of my favorite keepsakes if it didn't have a chance of making the cast a projectile

[oak current]

oh but i've comepleted one of them before- now i have to reunlock them? tough

[crude dragon]

RNG be like that sometimes

[crude minnow]

for high fear runs || how hard is R4 surface? want to do a 32F surface run ||

[unique fjord]

Yeah, I don't see them anymore. I thought they were there yesterday?

[oak current]

i'm lowkey annoyed- already completed one of them

[waxen willow]

Hello everyone! Little question; Does Cupid's arrow in the book means it'll start a romance with the character or something like that? 😅 Is it avoidable or do I have to stop gifting?

[crude dragon]

||Chronos is an invulnerable boss, doing his basic attack patterns||

[polar abyss]

I’d say reaaally hard. Most people don’t even do ||Rival 4 for 32, but if you are comfortable with Rival Prom, mind as well try it out for 4||

[meager garden]

stop gifting if you don't want to start a relationship

[signal fable]

Whats going on after beating chronos i am cirous

[waxen willow]

Ok! Thank you

[crude dragon]

You can avoid it, IIRC, there's an explicit "do you want to hook up with this character" choice

[waxen willow]

Got it, thank you

[oak current]

oh brother- also i'm realising that we didn't need the sand wiped since there's still that one ingredient that isn't known yet, i'm so maddddddddddd

[jolly wing]

Do Hestia boons suck because Scorch limit is capped at 999?

[meager garden]

no, scorch runs out from max in 4 seconds if you have a decent pyro technique

[oak current]

hestia boons absolutely do not suck

[modest dirge]

i got prompted for an update on steam

[meager garden]

bugfixes

[modest dirge]

ooo kk those are still nice

[jolly wing]

I’m spoiled from uncapped Scorch limit and Freezer Burn duo boon.

[crude dragon]

I mean, Freezer Burn is still around

But yeah, Hestia got a massive glow-up (pun intended) when Unseen dropped despite the cap, because Scorch now counted as Olympian damage

[meager garden]

I don't even use freezer, the new scorch rates already bake everything

[crude dragon]

So tasty!

[tepid siren]

Is anyone else having trouble getting the 'Born to win' prophecy to show up? Chaos has exhaused his dialogue but he won't give it. do you need to talk to him while holding the Embryo?

[jolly wing]

What is unseen, a patch update?

[meager garden]

yes

[meager garden]

Unseen Update, last major patch before 1.0

[tepid siren]

AH okay. I did all my embryo wins pre-1.0 so I haven't been taking it.

[urban sandal]

how is everyone farming prestige? just ash and psyche?

[cursive gazelle]

Is the patch out on Switch as well?

[jolly wing]

Olympian damage? Why is that important?

[celest yoke]

fiinally got the incantation for familiars

[meager garden]

some boons only buff "olympian damage" I think it's not a big deal, tbh

[astral bough]

does anyone know how many innkeeper ranks are ther

[sharp nymph]

I visited circle with the knuckle bones but it didn't count ?

[crude dragon]

Because it means Extended Family and Rallying Cry also buff it

[jolly wing]

I don't think Freezer Burn is amazing anymore since Scroch can't be applied for a few seconds after Freezer Burn procs.

[limpid iron]

"seek to know she who trained you" is hecate right? for some reason even if i defeat her or talk to her in the crossroads it won't count for the prophecy

[thin laurel]

still feels pretty great to me tbh.
just oneshots a lot of non-boss enemies, and even with limitations the damage against bosses is great. melting through most or all of a phase with it is fun lol

[crude dragon]

Just need to get the right dialogue from her

[jolly wing]

So Scorch builds are great for hitting for a few seconds then evade for the next few.

[brittle gull]

Fixed a rare issue that involved claiming Gemstones then immediately using one of Homer's Inspect Points

[placid shale]

why do all my runs start with a zeus boon

[brittle gull]

what is homers inspect points

[jolly wing]

I'd love a Zeus boon

[limpid iron]

did you just finish the credits cause thats what happens lol

[limpid iron]

those yellow glowing things on random places that you can inspect

[placid shale]

yes, like 10 runs ago

[sonic marsh]

idk if the onion vow messes with your boon RNG but it felt like I was missing more than 4 boons that run, it felt like I was almost given no boons at all

[placid shale]

but why the hell

[brittle gull]

ah ok. thanks.

[lusty trail]

anybody else just get an update

[meager garden]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1145350/view/505089031138181922?l=english

[brittle gull]

bug fix patch

[crude dragon]

Yeah, some hotfixes

Sadly, they did not fix a certain hot-button topic: the lack of new area music for Thessaly or either third biome ||the ending||

[jade fjord]

for some reason some of my achievements didn’t come thru on my early access save :(((
i definitely did breaking up the band but it didn’t give me the achievement 😞

[meager garden]

lul

[meager garden]

that one isn't retroactive
a lot of them aren't

[jade fjord]

shame. i thought all possible achievements would be retroactive upon release

[meager garden]

no, anything you can do again must be done again

[crude dragon]

Nah, not when it's easy enough to do it again

[thin laurel]

I think only one-time things and “do X for the first time” were retroactive, for the most part

so stuff like being a little murder sheep during the first boss fight needs to be done again, but is easy to do

[meager garden]

I had to clear tart and summit again which is interesting

[fierce viper]

is this just showing a blank page for anyone else?

[meager garden]

works for me

[thin laurel]

yesss same, altho ig for those it’s just because the achievements trigger when you get through the previously forbidden doors.
kind of made it feel climactic for me, wasn’t expecting an achievement doing my first 0 fear run since before the unseen update lol

[jolly wing]

For base Knives, if I were try to get early trickshot knives hammer, which olmpian boons should I proiritize? Something that boosts Special damage such as Hestia or Apollo?

[crude dragon]

Apollo in the pool for Back Burner is kinda funny

[sonic marsh]

does anything make anubis tick faster

[crude dragon]

Nope

[jolly wing]

Back burner works with Trickshot returning knives?

[crude dragon]

Back Burner works with a lot of things, returning knives included

IIRC, it also stacks with the aspect bonus

[rose canyon]

I do not like Dyonisus concealing how much HP I have remaining

[jolly wing]

So Apollo is a great choice for Special knives damage

[sonic marsh]

ngl i just pretend i have infinite

[golden solar]

What's the || Born to Win || prophecy?

[quartz hawk]

does the luckier tooth count as a death defiance for the strength arcana

[golden solar]

Only thing I miss to all achievements

[rose canyon]

Yes

[golden solar]

Yes, so does Moros' pin

[meager garden]

chaos egg, talk to chaos, do a full run with egg

[golden solar]

Ty

[jolly wing]

Can you get Legendary boons in early runs? Before Night 5

[golden solar]

It's annoying that some of those achievements aren't retroactive and you have to guess, especially for people who won't look in the achievements list

Like, I resurrected a siren and killed a witch as a sheep COUNTLESS times

[crude dragon]

You can, assuming you know the prerequisites

[unkempt zodiac]

The latter taught me you can attack while sheeped which is so funny

[crude dragon]

You know, I just realized that among other things that didn't get tweaked for 1.0, some of the old Chaos trials that use pre-rework boons or aspects are still in the game

[lucid shadow]

man i wish there was a consistent way to get ||zagreus fight||

[crude dragon]

Like the Trial that played around Golden Rule

[vocal adder]

How does sieger shredder work with nergal? Does it just increase the aoe?

[crude dragon]

IIRC, yes

[vocal adder]

Ok thats actually useful

[hexed steeple]

I think the chance of spawning is far too low

[lucid shadow]

i've had three runs so far where i specifically try to get him and i haven't

[hexed steeple]

Had the same thing happen last night over the course of seven or eight runs

[lucid shadow]

||one of the run i got him was in erebus and so i was nowhere near enough to beat him||

[hexed steeple]

yeah, it’s wild how you can only get that chance in the underworld when you’re not strong enough to actually make good on it, but topside, you’re likely to find that chance when you’re already morphing into a freight train

[gleaming parrot]

I got it 6 times in a row by ||visiting mid-level shops, especially in Erebus. I did get him on second floor once though||

[hexed steeple]

so it’s like it’s not worth it to choose that gate heading down

[small heath]

Can you get it in all regions that have a mid-region shop?

[hexed steeple]

I visited every mid level shop in eight runs, four low, four high, not a single one

[rose canyon]

||Typhon|| is kicking my ass and it's annoying 🙂

[gleaming parrot]

I've never seen it on Surface anyway

[hexed steeple]

I think you can only get in it regions 1 & 2 low, 2 & 3 high

[small heath]

Ok thanks, I've only seen it in 1 low and 2 high so far

[quartz hawk]

I'm 90% sure i just got him down to one shot before dying smh

[hexed steeple]

Take a good hex and spend time upgrading it during the run, that’s always been a big help

[quartz hawk]

hes so annoying

[gleaming parrot]

The only time I didn't see it in a mid-level shop after trying is when another NPC like Nem was inside the shop

[rose canyon]

Funnily enough I didn't have a Hex

[quartz hawk]

i never take hexes because i always forget to use them 💀

[hexed steeple]

I’ve had Lunar Ray dunking on him hard before, especially if you’re on some Apollo godsent action

[gleaming parrot]

Hexes are great nowadays

[hexed steeple]

like, 7-8K damage

[rose canyon]

Big boy was on his last legs. ||Zeus attacked him already and it vanished the second time. Then he combo'd me||

[gleaming parrot]

Wolf Howl is so cheap that on certain weapons, you can basically replace dashing with it

[tame wagon]

time consuming though

[compact wharf]

where do u get ||entropy?||

[thin laurel]

story progression, p much

[tame wagon]

|| kill typhon with gigaros||

[compact wharf]

||do i just go back to surface now? i just got the dialogue from hecate that i need an entropy and ive already gotten gigaros from zag||

[hexed steeple]

Apollo godsent, double godsent, triple beam fan pattern, damage at endpoint, fire and forget, extra firing time, extra damage - drop an omega cast and drop that hex point blank, and Typhon will straight up end a phase

[fading glen]

I think a co-op game combining both Hades 1 and 2 would be cool. Imo. I think instead of ||Chronos and Typhon|| it would be ||Typhon and Echidna|| or something along those lines. At least thats my dumb idea.

[hexed steeple]

done the same thing to chronos after the halfway point in the second round, and it should have said FATALITY on the screen

[tame wagon]

|| yeah it says so in the dialogue, after getting activating the incantation to kill typhon, you can get entropy by killing typhon with that incantation on ||

[hexed steeple]

My dumb idea is for Supergiant to do one new game, then come back and partner with someone like ArcSys to do Hades Versus, a tag fighter where you can choose to double up on gods and demigods, use them as assists, or fight as a single character with the backup god as a boon that changes the nature of your normals and combo capabilities

it’s just crazy enough to work

and you won’t find a better studio to handle hot bi-sexy grecians than the house of Gear

[midnight nest]

hades... 3...

[rose canyon]

Hades 4 when

[hexed steeple]

Hades Solid

[rose canyon]

Hades Rising: Vengeance

[hexed steeple]

Ghost of Hades

Hades Stranding

[fading glen]

I think for me it'd be cool to see stuff like maybe um split screen where one goes up and one goes down or or something like that idk.

[hexed steeple]

Hades League

[rose canyon]

That one "nanomachines, son" scene but it's Zagreus punching Hades with Malphon

[hexed steeple]

Hades Kart 64

[rose canyon]

Hades Sports

[rapid plaza]

pyre 2 hades

[rose canyon]

Ok but if we had a Hades "GG Strive" are Aphro and Dio putting clothes on?

[fading glen]

Considering theres a third child Makaria (not the child of Heracles, there was written a clear distinction. Just like how there's 2 Eris')...Itd be fascinating. But I'm also a mythology nerd in general and the idea of ||Typhon returning|| is cool! But it gets a bit muddy. Since most greek myths dont have a cool Armageddon or Ragnarock thing, most we got crazy wise was the Titanomachy, the Gigantomachy, the Centauromachy, and ||Typhon||.

[maiden dagger]

I've seen some people at high fear skipping boatman on the arcana, and I dunno if that's a good play

Wanted to check so that maybe I could adopt it to run a few other stuff

[rapid plaza]

boatman is good, I just don't know if it's 5 grasp good.

[fading glen]

The mix of Orphism is also an interesting play. Especially the mixing of Aeon (||Chronos||) and the titan ||Kronos||. Obviously we got ties like Zag and Dio, but also Mel and ||Hekate||.

[potent tinsel]

need points shop items for hades2 asap

[hearty fog]

I'm never going to get over Dio's theme being a smooth jazz remix of "On The Coast."

[maiden dagger]

I'm deciding between messenger, swift runner and artificer VS boatman on a DD setup

[iron wagon]

just had a run and im sad to see that the new keepsakes do not have a fourth tier with the hera demeter duo boon

[maiden dagger]

boatman gives 4 rerolls which is nice, but losing artificer and swift runner

[fading glen]

I'd love to see stuff like more primordials. Feel bad for Nyx with no Erebos! Give my girl her husband back! And also maybe Eris' kids. I'd love to see the Phonoi.

[thorny adder]

Artificer and swift run are are kind of meh

[rapid plaza]

artificer for sure. if you're done with ashes getting free health/hammer/boons is amazing

[thorny adder]

Or you could just use the 300 gold to buy out two guaranteed boons

Generally I just try to take out as much RNG as possible, which is why I run Boatman instead of Artificer

[maiden dagger]

boatman does give me both queen and divinity

[thorny adder]

Then probably just take Boatman. The duo boon boost is no joke

[hexed steeple]

Dio will have the banana hammock, Aph might always be covered up by hair or come in rocking the latest and greatest in fig leaf swimwear

[hearty fog]

Boatman is really 5 Grasp for 4 extra rerolls.

[hexed steeple]

I am starting to think that Skelly’s true identity is Dolos

[hearty fog]

The cash is nice but it's there for the Awakening.

[rapid plaza]

yeah if you're already running excellence/dd boat man is solid for the column bonus and queen is a nice add-on. I've started to stop taking queen just because there's other things i like more

[hexed steeple]

1.) he said Charon hired him, so he’d be family
2.) if Charon is skeletal, then Skelly may very well be chthonic

[thorny adder]

Idk, I like my gold and rerolls, especially since on surface I’m guaranteed a legendary boon right out of the gate

But also, yes, it’s really convenient for the full column when running DD’s lol

[hexed steeple]

In Greek mythology, Dolos is a daemon and minor god of trickery and deception. He is the personification and spirit of cunning, guile, and treachery. He works with his female counterpart, Apate, the goddess of deceit, as well as the Pseudologoi (lies).

He’s always BS’ing people about who he is / was, so it’s got me thinking that his ability to reconstitute himself is tied to him being not human / mortal in origin

[hearty fog]

||"NOT AGAAAIIINNN...!"||

[woeful ingot]

Froth doesnt get used on posidons attack right?

[tulip sun]

Spoilers (and question) about The Fates questline:
||For "Seek to know who is our emissary" I need to die and revive with Moros' keepsake in chambers 1-2-3 of Oceanus? and fully die in the 4th? Also someone mentioned the fated list quests having a description but mine doesn't mention this at all, just to seek the emissary||

[woeful ingot]

I mean more so when you attack your attack doesnt put froth on enemies more so

[unreal jackal]

Hello nice people!
I had a question to ask, because I'm in great hesitation at the moment.
It's been a few months since I didn't play Hades 2, and with the full release of the game, I was wondering if it was a better idea to just launch my old save and explore the new things added (I've beat Cronos a few times, have some weapons upgraded, maxed relations and went to the last boss of Olympus), or simply start a fresh new game, so I won't miss anything that would have been added.
Would have an advice or information about that?
Is there some interactions that have been added after the official release that I could have missed eventually?

[thin laurel]

only his cast applies froth unless you get slippery slope, if that’s what you’re asking
his attack boon can proc froth but doesn’t apply it on its own

if you get slippery slope then his attack and special will apply froth too. not his other effects afaik but I may be wrong

[hearty fog]

His Cast inflicts Froth by default.

[wary garnet]

I did a run playing the hex that || revives enemies and i revived || || one of typhoon little flying eyes he summoned during the egg round||

IT WENT INSIDE HIS HITBOX AND DEMOLISHED HIM IN LIKE 10 SECONDS XDDD

[little frost]

night bloom is awesome 🙏 praise be to selene

[thin laurel]

that hex is very fun lol, I love stacking it with the duos that do similar things

[brittle gull]

there are lot of enemies that are really good with that hex. punching guy in mourning fields is also really good

[wary garnet]

also because his hitbox ||is outside of the map, he cant hit the flying eye either||

[wary garnet]

no like im saying the BOSS couldnt do a single thing vs it, and it soloed the boss in like 10 seconds and if u fought that boss u know he has a lot of hp

[brittle gull]

yeah, there are lot of cool interactions with that hex

[hearty fog]

||Apollo's song|| is gorgeous, but does anyone else find ||him really going whenever talking to Zeus and Hera|| just a little distracting?

[devout cairn]

got blitz attack to lvl 20 on a medea run, that was fast

[wary garnet]

well a win is a win we take those hahah first time beating him!

[brittle gull]

like in chronos fight , if you revived the sand clock with that hex, sandclock heals you

[little frost]

yeah lmao ||and then you get to an end of a voiced sentence from zeus and apollo starts belting out high notes again||

[thin laurel]

lmao yes, ||if the part of the song where he’s belting at the top of his range overlaps with dialogue in a bit like. this is meant to calm everyone down???||

[little frost]

YEAH LOL

[hearty fog]

[compact wharf]

||dio wanting 4 bottles of ambrosia for max friendship is crazy </3||

[thin laurel]

tbh it is in character for him tho lol. very uh. ||what would my parents DO if they couldn’t hear me belt the high note of defying gravity whenever we start arguing over thanksgiving dinner?|| ||amusing golden boy whose duo boon dialogue is full of his siblings and cousins being mildly annoyed||

[woeful ingot]

Does ||Chaos rooms || Count as a extra room or one less room till the boss?

[wind heron]

500 coins for a hermes boon ok man

[viral hatch]

Feel like surface runs are consistently more fun than underworld

[thin laurel]

agreed lol, ephyra is so nice for setting up builds

[viral hatch]

Yeah boons aside i also like how i can always get an early hammer

[upper rover]

Is Hera's mana upgrade worth it?

[cinder estuary]

How do you alter the appearance of familiars? I'm trying to complete that achievement but I'm not seeing any way to do it.

[little frost]

generally yes they'll count as a replacement for the next room, so you'll "skip" a combat or midshop but you'll still forward your progress in the region, except for places like tart

[thorny adder]

Almost always

[viral hatch]

Born gain?

[little frost]

||it's related to circe relationship I think||

[upper rover]

I think so yea

[viral hatch]

Yeah its good

[upper rover]

I have the fire god's now but I can swap for higher quality and lvl

[viral hatch]

What weapon?

[rapid plaza]

yeah it's in contention for being the best gain in the game other than maybe hestia on some builds

[upper rover]

hammer

[halcyon chasm]

Is there any damage increase in the game thats multiplicative? Or is absolutely every % damage increase additive?

[viral hatch]

Yeah thats a little slow for cardio gain but at the same time youre kinda losing a boon when you do stuff like that

[viral hatch]

I believe heph has a duo with hestia that doubles his blast

[little frost]

sacrifice boons make up "losing a boon" by being better rarity and level usually so it's not really losing a boon

[upper rover]

The other options weren't that great anyways

[hearty fog]

The only boon in the game that says +% and is multiplicative, to my knowledge, is Hestia's Pyro Technique.

[viral hatch]

There are 2 surface enemies that illicit real rage inside my heart. Lil snake and lil automaton. Those 2 are unbelievably corny. Ive had enough!

[hearty fog]

Which lil snake? The dudes on the summit that pop in and out?

[viral hatch]

Yes the wack a mole heat seeking projectile freaks

Its the chasing that gets to me

[hearty fog]

Say it again.

[little frost]

no literally those guys suck

[viral hatch]

But the small automatons that spawn in groups of 1000 then all shoot out multiple projectiles that hit consecutively for like 30 damage per stream also make me cry

[little frost]

are they bone hydras? or have I been calling them the wrong thing

[viral hatch]

No i forgot the name but its something different iirc

[little frost]

they used to explode on death and they would still be able to move a bit while in the dying animation

:)

[viral hatch]

Im not typing all that again :(

[jolly wing]

Which is more useful for base knives for Attack? Demeter or Aphrodite

[viral hatch]

Kinda depends on build imo

[unkempt zodiac]

does the new keepsake ||jeweled pom|| work if i ||dont use rerolls or do i have to specifically not have those cards equipt||? seems like a fun thing to use with judgement

[jolly wing]

I have Trick Knives, with no special boon so far

[little frost]

between those two id say demeter but yeah it's hard to say in a vacuum, but % matters a lot less on blades unless you're oattack focused

[little frost]

cannot have the cards equipped

[jolly wing]

What if I already have Aphrodite, but I can switch to higher rarity Demeter

[viral hatch]

You can do whatever you want if you have trick knives ngl lol.

[unkempt zodiac]

so it wont work with judgement? unfortunate

[little frost]

why would it not work with judgement?

[stuck horizon]

you have trick knives you've already won

[viral hatch]

Freeze is what really matters it being higher rarity just scales its damage slightly i believe but it will never be higher than aphro’s

[stuck horizon]

take whichever boon is your favourite colour it does not matter unless you're playing 67 fear

[little frost]

kind of a wash tbh, both are fine I suppose, freeze is really good for safety

[velvet cave]

How many times is Narcissus going to refuse to give me a boon? So frustrating when I’m just trying to complete his minor prophecy and it takes ~5 runs to find him once, followed by 4 times in a row of him sulking and me leaving with nothing

[stuck horizon]

serious answer though demeter for safety aphro for raw damage

[little frost]

btw the keepsake will have a little popup when it activates/unactivates

[jolly wing]

Trick Knives doesn’t seem great on unupgraded knives (no pan knives)

[little frost]

trick knives is always like really good in general

[stuck horizon]

spam dash strikes and get a special boon, you'll see

[little frost]

especially zeus special lmao

[stuck horizon]

the origination possibilities with trick knives are insane, you can easily and consistently get the damage bonus

if you're running origination, that is

if you're not running origination honestly why not

[jolly wing]

I’m too early to get Zeus Boons

[viral hatch]

It is. Youre able to benefit from attack and special buffs at the same time. Plus the 3 knifes allows for better aoe. If you have a curse on both attack and special youll instantly proc origination too

[stuck horizon]

trick knives with wave strike, slippery slope, heaven flourish and killer current is so good

[median venture]

can I romance all characters at the same time?

[stuck horizon]

yessir

[median venture]

thanks, I was holding everyone off because I wanted icarus xD

[lean shale]

Short question

||how do I get back to my family after the ending? Does that happen randomly or do I have to trigger something?||

[maiden dagger]

I tried fear 50 once
biggest mistake of my life

[meager garden]

it's ruff

[onyx summit]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-invincible-omni-man-jk-simmons-that's-the-neat-thing-gif-4390372980992221432

[hexed lagoon]

Anyone had a familiar get stuck out of bounds/in the thorns at the Fields of Mourning? Just had it happen with Hecuba using aspect of Circe, realized the tether was running the whole zone

[lean shale]

Thanks but I really dont like to click on random links :/

[stuck horizon]

you can meet ||hades and persephone in hades' normal chamber in tartarus|| and ||zagreus by interacting with a red scroll in charon's shop||

[viral hatch]

Its a gif lol

[brisk canyon]

Its the "That's the near thing. You don't." meme

[lean shale]

Ahhh lol didn saw that

[onyx summit]

It's a gif, for some reason it doesn't show up here

[meager garden]

dyno is watching

[lean shale]

Ahhh thank you didn't got the chamber after the end

[lean shale]

Ok xD

[lean shale]

Ah lol

[viral hatch]

I know its not popular but i like Artemis aspect alot i love the parry as a resource, its fun getting huge burst damage and playing into the crits. Plus i really like the fluidity that the increased omega attack speed gives to the feel of the daggers gameplay

[stuck horizon]

ares attack and grievous blow also goes pretty crazy on that aspect, hitting a crit from the aspect and a grievous blow from the attack is like shot of pure dopamine to the brain

[lament surge]

I like to make damage

[viral hatch]

Yeah the crits being guaranteed makes them super fun to build and play into through things that increase attack damage

[stuck horizon]

getting the +20 power hammer with that setup is bonkers

wicked onslaught

[viral hatch]

And the omega speed being so high allows you to invest into omega attacks which synergizes with the crits for huge damage. 9 boosted omega attacks hitting for absurd damage

[waxen lake]

Does anybody knows how to unlock Athena heart 🥹?

[viral hatch]

Give her the drink homie

[waxen lake]

Just talking(?

[rapid plaza]

just keep gifting and talking to her. her keepsake helps to gaurentee encounters (esp in UW) you may have to do a quest ||with arachane|| as well

[waxen lake]

Thanks! Ur the best!

[plain scaffold]

how do you unlock ||zagreus affinity? do you just fight him in elysiumover and over again||

[lost wing]

See patch
See it's to address bugs
See nothing about Coat Omega Attack speed 😭

[dark plume]

its the dedalus hammer hook knives still in the game? i really liked it but i cant find it no more.. (it makes ur knives come back to u and 50% + damage when they strike behind the enemy)

[dark plume]

just checked the patch notes and they removed it, saying that this effect is now innate, but what does that mean?

[rapid plaza]

yeah but ||you have to beat him a few times||

[jolly wing]

If I don't have ash though I have access to Bones Broker, is it more efficient to gather Ash or Bones?

[crude minnow]

ARE YOU SERIOUES FOR R4 || I killed typhon and then I HAVE TO SURIVE AGAIN ||

[rapid plaza]

ash. each ash pick up is worth 75 bones

[viral hatch]

You ordered a burger and got served a burger

[winged geyser]

did it once, never more

[crude minnow]

I did it 32F im about to go cry

[winged geyser]

I'm a masochist, not that much

[winged geyser]

hugs you

[meager garden]

now for 24f?

[crude minnow]

god damm it

[meager garden]

oh wait you did 32f surface?

[fading glen]

Man when's Scylla and the Sirens gonna release some new music >:[[ (joke)

[glacial zinc]

welp, one encounter worth of maimed revival left and I have to fight Scylla

with my weapon build

[meager garden]

don't they have 4 songs already

[fading glen]

4 yes but ||2 more if you do Vow of Rivals||

[thorny adder]

technically 8, actually, if we count the oceanus backing tracks

[fading glen]

I was just acting like you know an annoying fan demanding new material

[meager garden]

I'm pretty sure it's 3 nonrival, 1 rival

[thorny adder]

they released a new song for 1.0 btw

[fading glen]

Song of the Sirens
Coral Crown
Song of the Deep
I Am Gonna Claw (Our Your Eyes Then Drown You To Death)
||Song of the Isles||
||Rock in a Hard Place||

[pulsar frigate]

Apollo is the worst for family dispute right? first time i had to face it and was horrible

[meager garden]

oh I didn't count the ones for the zone

hera is worse

also heph's is quite nasty, imo

[ancient nebula]

I think Hephaestus is worse cuz the AOE is larger

[limpid iron]

hera and zeus are pretty insane

[pulsar frigate]

yeah Heph is pretty bad too, Hera is easy to dodge imo and fun af

[ancient nebula]

I find Hera manageable. Zeus can be difficult. I think Aphrodite and Poseidon are easiest to dodge. Hestia is just similar to avoiding traps

[hollow drum]

My boyfriend raged so hard at Apollo that they have never taken an Apollo boon since than XD

[pulsar frigate]

Aphrodite and Poseidon are the easies for sure, haven't seen Ares now that i think about it tho

[ebon crane]

Zeus is my least favorite to neglect in the disputes. The lightning is so annoying

[crude minnow]

yes but i wiped cuz first time doing R4

[meager garden]

rip, r4 is really hard

[crude minnow]

demeter is worst in dispute imo

[meager garden]

demeter lingers forever but it doesn't jumpscare you imo

[pulsar frigate]

ah yeah forgot about Demeter, is horrible too, the zones are quite large

[viral hatch]

Shes my favorite lol. The only thing is sometimes her aoe can blend in at first. Kinda hate aphro and zeus personally

[crude minnow]

zeus just keep moving but its annoying yes, aphro isnt too bad unless you cant see anythng on screen

[viral hatch]

Idk its just annoying having something chasing you when youre dealing with enemies

[crude minnow]

ya but you can just dash through it and it fades

[worn patrol]

I just beat chronos for the first 2 times and to be honest I don't think I touched the cast button once

[viral hatch]

0 fear?

[gleaming parrot]

Speaking of disputes, what happens if you ||convert the first boon to gold instead of accepting it?||

[slim tulip]

does anybody know requirements to unlock Observance of Gaia's Secrets ? wiki states "Unlocked all Gathering Tools at the The Silver Pool" but thats not it. Someone mentioned upgrading all the tools and also not getting it.

[worn patrol]

Yeah but don't think i would use cast if there was

[worn patrol]

Is that how you get the secret aspects in this game

[solar lava]

This was my first time starting a new run, did they ||change Moros introduction scene to have the glowing lines|| or was that a bug for 1.0? If so, has it been fixed?

[viral hatch]

With enough fear youd be greatly hindering yourself by not using cast lol

[worn patrol]

It slows enemys but that's kinda all the utility

[gleaming parrot]

Lol

[solar furnace]

why are the tools gone

[meager garden]

free mass curse for origination
+30% damage if you have furies equipped

[slim tulip]

Its 20% boost to resources gathered by hand

[meager garden]

removed in one of the earlier patches in early access, last year

[worn patrol]

Oh cool

[gleaming parrot]

I'm not sure "I played but not as good as I could have" is as much of a brag as people think. Casting is different but it's also free, you can even do it mid omega charge simultaneously

[solar furnace]

I somehow didn't notice

[meager garden]

you still need to upgrade them, but they're all inside the silver pool in the middle

[gleaming parrot]

Especially on higher frenzy and mob count, dashing isn't enough. You have to control movement of enemies too, not just your own

[meager garden]

especially at 62 fear, you probably have circe equipped, in which case almost all of your damage is from cast

[gleaming parrot]

Casting is different than H1, and yeah that feels awkward at first, but it's pretty useful and eventually essential

[worn patrol]

I know but I don't find myself naturally choosing to use it

[viral hatch]

Lol yeah thats like the least useful part of what cast do. Its a whole separate source of damage that you can just have out with no consequence that can apply curses and allow you to group up mobs. The damage you lose by not using it is extremely notable

[meager garden]

it feels awkward? I felt the h1 cast felt awkward

I didn't understand H2 cast's appeal until I picked up a boon for it. Almost any boon makes it absurdly good

[gleaming parrot]

Pretty natural when you're starting any game to not utilize every mechanic to 100%. That's more on you than the mechanics themselves though imo

[meager garden]

but you can't really "miss" with h2 cast, unlike H1

[worn patrol]

Idk I feel like every scenario I would use a cast I just use like a special or something to do it's job

[gleaming parrot]

You can literally throw down casts while charging omega specials or attacks. It's not an if/or

[worn patrol]

I guess that's just me

[gleaming parrot]

It is just you, lol

[worn patrol]

Ok

Uhhhhhh

[lyric kindle]

Do y'all believe Dionysus deserves new boons and maybe a buff? Just looking at his boon list I don't see alot of useful stuff tbh or maybe I'm wrong

[rapid plaza]

+20% damage is always welcome with furies

[viral hatch]

I feel i always just take the health lol

[slim pike]

Idk man some of his stuff is insane

[fringe crater]

No special dialogue for meeting ||Medea|| for the first time via the ||Vow of Rivals||, awww

[viral hatch]

I thought it was more?

[gleaming parrot]

Aspects like Circe or Morrigan are undeniably good for casting

[lyric kindle]

Really?maybe I just don't see the potential

[rapid plaza]

20% is base it can be upgraded

[slim pike]

Take the grape juice and charge a full missile salvo

[meager garden]

the money is good, the drink and fog is good

[slim pike]

His "legendary" is not great

[lyric kindle]

Missle salvo?is that with the black coat or something?I don't use it much

[meager garden]

basically it gives massive power to a single attack
if you do a multi-hit omega or something, it boosts every swing

[slim pike]

Yep. It's just an example

Torch omega special too

Also 100ish hp for free is a lot

[lyric kindle]

Appreciate it I was left scratching my head a little since when I'm using my preferred weapons I don't take much damage so the health stuff didn't seem that crazy

I'll definitely experiment some more

[slim pike]

Inflicting hangover is also great

Procs origination too. Deals 8x the stated damage iirc

[lyric kindle]

Guess I underestimated him

[crude minnow]

if i break a vase that has gold, can I go to next area or do I need to wait to "pick" up the gold

[gleaming parrot]

I don't mind the gold one either depending on my build

[slim pike]

Npc boons are honesty nuts, just balanced by the opportunity cost of taking them

[slim pike]

You'll take it before the screen fades out no matter what

[unreal temple]

Man surface is rough on frenzy 2

[viral hatch]

Does it? When i read hangover it kinda just looked like 75 damage and just one time per enemy which seemed not great

[slim pike]

75x8 is 600 free damage per enemy

[viral hatch]

Didnt realize it multiplied by 8

[lyric kindle]

Good lord

That's kinda fat Dmg lol

[slim pike]

Read what it says. 4 seconds duration, deals the stated damage every 0.5 seconds

[viral hatch]

Yeah i must have misread it

[heavy peak]

hey is there a glitch with the ||extra garden space|| incantation or something? I've done almost 30 runs (completed most of them) and still only have two.

I don't remember having this much trouble getting it during early access lol, created a new save and the game refuses to give it to me. My bad, just saw there's a chat specifically for this

[slim pike]

50, 75, 100 or 125. Times eight. Oh yeah it's killing most things if they dare live more than 4 seconds

[unreal temple]

It might have some specific requirement, I got it around that point more or less, and then the 6 spaces immediately showed up next run

[unreal hare]

what arcana page do you take for ||fates whim||?

[unreal temple]

Just try to unlock other things and it might show up

[heavy peak]

I see, thanks. I have so many incantations done really don't know why it's taking so long

[unreal temple]

It took me a while too lol idk if something changed but I was getting worried

[crude minnow]

I think its because we go much farther than expected early on, the dialogue/requirements keep getting skipped

[heavy peak]

did the ||crossroads decorations|| also take you a while? Don't have it yet but I remember this one is for sure slower to get

[unreal temple]

I think I got that one before the extra garden slots weirdly enough

[heavy peak]

yeah that might be it, my brother started playing now and even though he has basically the same amount of runs as me he has way more incantations, the main difference being that he's dying a lot more

[merry whale]

i think the usual setup but just no reroll cards, and slam the remaining cards on other arcana u want like artificier, boatman, huntress, etc

[snow elk]

[merry whale]

i like artificier cuz it helps alleviate a bit of the ||fates whim|| drawback

[rough echo]

Guys I had a question how do I increase the number of seeds I can plant

[orchid bison]

Just updated the game and saw my ||greater below and above chaos trials || are gone. Is this a glitch or are they gonna be introduced later on?

[tulip herald]

theres a priority and you only unlock 3(?) incantations a night, i got mine at 30 nights

[cobalt reef]

What the hell. ||Medea's poison|| is insane. Rivals spoiler.

[rapid plaza]

yeah they come back

[sharp garden]

you can || get rid of poison near shrines like in Hades 1 ||

[ocean oxide]

How do you ||customize animal companions?|| (Late game unlock)

[thin laurel]

part of it is dialogue + friendship with ||circe||. beyond that idk the requirements, I got it after ||giving her another nectar then talking more|| on my EA save so may have done other prereqs already

[ocean oxide]

i figured it was probably that NPC but just wanted to confirm. Thanks!

[mystic hill]

i done almost everything on my EA save and i cant get her to say the line to unlock spend almost 10 hours going back and forth and still nothing the only achievement missing is this

i think my save is bugged

[viral hatch]

You should have seen what it was😶

[sterile notch]

I learned if you take the card that gives you 5 random arcana per boss killed, it will never give you any reroll cards with those keepsakes equipped

[rapid plaza]

||circe tends to love to prioritize other dialouge rather than what you want. took me forever to get the relationship unlock (10+) even with having requirements met||

[viral hatch]

Fight was harder than the final fights when it dropped. It wasnt close imo

[ivory apex]

Has anyone gotten the earn 1000 gold from nem achievement yet? only one I’m missing now. Is it just beating her 10 times or do you have to earn 1000 gold at once somehow?

[maiden salmon]

Oh my glob, why did nobody tell me how much fun Charon axe is?

[sterile notch]

Yes

[rapid plaza]

that's actually amazing

[devout cairn]

Typhon's red orb feels so inconsistent to me, is he aiming it at Frinos? Sometimes he aims close to him, sometimes he aims at Melinoe

[rapid plaza]

it's lifetime gold won not all at once

[sterile notch]

Just wanted to give that tip out in case anyone does builds like that since that’s all I do every run

[ivory apex]

Thanks