h2-discussion

[orchid acorn]

if only he was female

[raven perch]

Have you seen his bath portrait

[covert badge]

isnt that the armor lol

[radiant apex]

obviously a twink is a character that you stop leveling and equip with best in slot gear in order to dominate your battleground bracket. i know what a twink is

[tranquil wren]

tbf no I haven't

[orchid acorn]

arachne bath at 1.0 🤤

[buoyant matrix]

I'm twinking

[robust basin]

Oh I misunderstood

[orchid acorn]

im twanking

[carmine holly]

FOURTY FOURTY FOURTY FOURTY EIGHT HOURS TO GOOOOOO, I WANNA BE SEDATED

[raven perch]

It’s more 47 hours 45 minutes

[robust basin]

What did I miss???

[little frost]

isn't icarus iowkey shredded

[raven perch]

Give me a mo I’ll find it

[robust basin]

🤣 🤣

[velvet hearth]

Both meg and than are terrible options

[raven perch]

The tuxedo is boring af tho

[velvet hearth]

The romance in both is forced

[raven perch]

I like Meg! I dislike Than

[orchid acorn]

me but for different reasons

[robust basin]

Well now I am confused

[little frost]

https://tenor.com/view/thanatos-gif-17171340054595800436

[covert badge]

i wanted that bull guy but he's taken

[velvet hearth]

Mid vs mid (meg)

[raven perch]

Chaos raised Nyx since she was born, playing games with her and such. Chaos did not raise Typhon, for example. Just made them and sent them off.

[tranquil wren]

there's no way you call meg mid

[viral topaz]

no info yet on other console dates right?

[tranquil wren]

severe brainrot

[raven perch]

Nope

[viral topaz]

i envy switch 2 owners

[orchid acorn]

the info is "not currently in dev" as they are focused on the switch and pc versions

[raven perch]

It should be coming out in switch 1 too

[orchid acorn]

While we haven't ruled out bringing Hades II to any other platforms, our current focus is only on the versions listed above.

[orchid acorn]

this. it is coming out for both

[robust basin]

Oh!!! Is that a retcon?🤔

[oak ivy]

It should come out on Witch 1 too

[viral topaz]

hmmm, might be able to borrow a switch 1 from someone else

[radiant apex]

i have a vacation in November and I'm lowkey considering getting H2 on my switch so I can play it on the go 😭 apparently there will be a cross-save feature so I could just... put my completed save on my switch

[robust basin]

I believe it is already out for that one

[orchid acorn]

only difference is the fps iirc

[oak ivy]

Hell yeah!!

[raven perch]

No

[orchid acorn]

Hades II for Nintendo Switch 2 features blazing-fast 120 frames-per-second performance at 1080p while playing in TV Mode. In Handheld Mode, the game runs at 60 frames-per-second at 1080p, while the Nintendo Switch version runs at 60 frames-per-second at 720p in both modes. Players who purchase the Nintendo Switch version may download a free upgrade to the Nintendo Switch 2 version if they have both consoles.

[viral topaz]

i just read up on my greek mythology again and cant wait lol

[oak ivy]

Also play Silksong!

[orchid acorn]

120 docked 60 1080p switch 2

60fps 720 switch 1

[radiant apex]

i haven't even played hollow knight tbh, i watched the silksanity from afar with wide eyes and a bucket of popcorn

[oak ivy]

There are a lot of gays in silksong too!! It's great, but yeah you should play the original first

[viral topaz]

720 is kinda wild lol

[hearty fog]

Hollow Knight is a game for almost everyone. Silksong is for if you really really really liked Hollow Knight.

[robust basin]

For these reasons I have been considering a steam deck...🤔

[radiant apex]

oh i've BEEN considering a steam deck too, I just won't drop money I could be spending on a tropical island on a steam deck to make my plane rides more comfy when i already have a switch lol

[orchid acorn]

you can have a vacation on a tropical island for 500?

[radiant apex]

but then, the prospect of playing things like TS4 when I'm traveling..... but then..... all my mods... 💀

[robust basin]

I'm not sure... Maybe it's better to have SS as a tutorial for HK than the other way around

[orchid acorn]

mods also work on steam deck

[radiant apex]

More like "could I spend that $500 better while I'm on the island itself?" and the answer is hell yes

[radiant apex]

I do NOT want to have to manage the mods on both platforms though 💀 I use a ton of script mods that need frequent updates

[robust basin]

You are getting it...💀

[scenic jungle]

Not alot of mods to play with atm thou

[raven perch]

Just bring your pc

[robust basin]

Oh! Mods on the switch 2? I misunderstood

[covert badge]

man i wish motion sickness wasn’t a thing i’m so jealous of people who can just watch a screen on a ride

let alone play actual games on a handheld console, must be nice

[radiant apex]

lugs my desktop, two monitors, mechanical keeb, mouse, and UPS onto the airplane ok who's got an outlet

Stop hogging the window seat I KNOW there has to be an outlet on this thing somewhere.

[slim pike]

Kinda nice to play VR without having to use teleport movement, ngl

[candid geode]

since it looks like those costumes for the familiars is confirmed, i think there should be a baby reforming skull helmet for frinos

hecate throws the shapeshifting ball at mel and it bounces off of frinos' helmet

[scenic jungle]

Hecuba in a cerberus onesie

[cursive kayak]

THAT WOULD BE SO CUTE

[robust basin]

Oh? That's what I did! Nice!:)

[solemn osprey]

how do i get my steam ahcievement ;-; arent they retroactive ?

[orchid acorn]

1.0 isn't released

achievements are public but they are for 1.0

[solemn osprey]

ho i though it was like we oculd get them from now on sorry

[orchid acorn]

you will. At 1.0

they are not set for the current game version, just like how like 1/3 of them are referencing stuff not in the game

[solemn osprey]

ho okay

im scared of the one needing to have an archane dress to the final boss

[robust basin]

Me too buddy... Me too

[orchid acorn]

its not that hard, remember its bring it TO the final boss. not beat the final boss with the dress

[crude dragon]

Just pick a high-armor dress and take sash second biome

[orchid acorn]

or yknow take sash first for the extra 26~ armor

[robust basin]

Maybe taking it second makes sense because you take Heph keepsake first biome

[robust basin]

Hmmmm.... Silk and time... Silk and void... Silk and song... Hmmmm

It's always the silk isn't it?

[velvet hearth]

Icarus is my goat and you cant make me think otherwise he is one of the charavter designs I like

Athena and hephasteus designs are the worst for me

[raven perch]

Really? I think Icarus’ portrait is among the most boring while Heph’s design is quite slick

[candid nimbus]

I just... Don't like any of them as romantic options tbh

Time for the ace route, I guess

[raven perch]

Athena’s design isn’t my favorite but it’s not bad by any means

[candid nimbus]

Now, if Heph were a romantic option, however...

[crude dragon]

Hephaestus's design is good

[robust basin]

People were sad that heph was not in Hades 1 because they wanted wheelchair representation, or just curious about it. I suppose they didn't get disappointed

[velvet hearth]

Hepha design is straight up not accurate at all to what most stories mention

Icarus is the most accurate

My goat

[crude dragon]

Speaking of him, is he paraplegic due to a birth defect or because of Hera?

[raven perch]

??? What

[velvet hearth]

Its true

[raven perch]

Iirc there have been vases decorated with images of Hephaestus in a wheelchair, even before wheelchairs were invented

[candid nimbus]

He's supposed to be the "deformed" one

And in Hades 2 we have a disabled bear

Not that I am complaining, though!

[raven perch]

https://www.theoi.com/Gallery/K7.6.html

[crude dragon]

Huh, that do be a wheelchair

[pallid cradle]

Best wheelchair you've ever seen.

[candid nimbus]

Oh yes, the wheelchair bit is accurate

[raven perch]

They got his hair and beard down too

[robust basin]

Exactly! The links I found were broken.

[pale aspen]

I thought he was paraplegic in game because Hera pushed her off Olympus lmao

[robust basin]

Basically a small chariot

[candid nimbus]

Hera is literally ableist. Cancelling her in social media as we speak

[velvet hearth]

Yeah im not a fan of hades designs having greek gods be from different etnicities. At that point jsut take gods from other religions its way better

Like nyx being indian. And hermes asian idk. Its like a cope to say “only because greek gods worshipped them” well greek gods thought they looked like them

[crude dragon]

So is this the point where people mention that ancient Greece had active trade with Egypt and the Near East?

[velvet hearth]

Like nyx couldve been a indian diety

[robust basin]

Looool! There's a myth that says that Heph is son of Talos! Looool

[pale aspen]

Yeah about that.. Hermes having asian features didn’t really sat well with me

[orchid acorn]

hermes going from white to asian threw me off too

[robust basin]

Some stories take this as reason, but some others say he was born that way

[velvet hearth]

Lol and even then greeks didnt have poc only “olive” skin. Your historical over generalization doesnt work

Poc yes but not black I mean

Hermes couldve been a Japanese god

[robust basin]

In what universe Nyx is Indian and Hermes is Asian?? Did we play the same game?

[candid geode]

A character design that made me go hot damn was hephaestus

[velvet hearth]

They are coded like that lmfao

[robust basin]

Wait what???

[candid geode]

Aphrodite if u don't want him I'll take him

[robust basin]

What do you mean?

[raven perch]

He was always asian?

[velvet hearth]

That they look like that etnicity clearly lol

[broken glen]

HE WAS ALWAYS ASIAN

[velvet hearth]

Nyx looks indian. Hermes asian

[bronze oak]

How dare they remove my white representation omg

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/z59h5Vc this looks european white guy to me

[pale aspen]

Take a really good look at his in game portrait dude like cmon

[raven perch]

Nyx does not look asian she is white as all hell

[velvet hearth]

Its the angle he is asian

[raven perch]

You’re literally wrong lmfao

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/EGqq9VV

now THIS is asian

[robust basin]

That's just a dude...

[velvet hearth]

I said indian

[raven perch]

Indian is asian mf

[velvet hearth]

But yeah that asian

[bronze oak]

He looks exactly the same

[pale aspen]

Hades 2 Hermes is more asian coded

[orchid acorn]

yall are insane if you think those are the same person

[velvet hearth]

I know but I specified for a reason dont call me that

[raven perch]

You’re the insane one

[bronze oak]

His eyes are drawn the same way

[velvet hearth]

This

[orchid acorn]

facial lines are different, eyes are shpaed differently, same eyebrows different hair

[raven perch]

It’s cuz he got older but the eyes are shaped the same

[velvet hearth]

True

[broken glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960590442141991042/1420091099510476991/IMG_7252.webp?ex=68d42266&is=68d2d0e6&hm=8324025aa4d86329f873f6a9311bb86822d331ae0698346fba32a487c9be7980&

here’s hades 1 for reference

[orchid acorn]

if he was like quarter asian before(at best) he went full asian grandpa this time

[orchid acorn]

yes i literally posted his face above

[raven perch]

Not grandpa don’t say that

[velvet hearth]

But yeah the different etnicities greek gods is such a cope that I dont like in the game its my onky design gripe

[raven perch]

Hermes has a monolid here

[orchid acorn]

like even his skin tone is.... idk the term

but its different from h1>h2

[raven perch]

You do know that Ancient Greece was ethnically diverse too

[bronze oak]

Its giving white supremacy

[haughty hill]

wdym, there were black greeks...?

[orchid acorn]

palid?

[raven perch]

Pallid means pale

[robust basin]

Athena?

[orchid acorn]

no but like. sickly kinda

[robust basin]

No

[velvet hearth]

Youre terminally online if you think this is white supremacy or that im white

[raven perch]

That’s just cuz the artist likes grey a Lot

[robust basin]

It is Athena epithet

Wait

[raven perch]

It’s a bit white supremacist to be upset that a game has people of different ethnicities

[velvet hearth]

Yeah. But not to hades game extent lmfao. Greeks did NOT imagine their gods like this

[robust basin]

It was Achilles!!! I am confusing everything

[raven perch]

You’re thinking Pallas Athena

[robust basin]

Exactly

[bronze oak]

You're mad about diverse skin tones idk what to say

[robust basin]

And pelide achille

[raven perch]

So what

[sleek oar]

Saying “i dont like they made characters not white” sure is something

[velvet hearth]

You guys are so terminally online the second someone doesnt like a diverse etnicities in a mythos where they didnt imagine them like that

[bronze oak]

Literally how weird

[raven perch]

The greeks weren’t snow white either

[robust basin]

Narrami o Musa del pelide Achille, che infiniti lutti addusse agli Achei.

[velvet hearth]

Never said that you dork. Greeks werent fully white lmfao

[oak ivy]

I sort of agree with Pronto on this one.

I mean hades art in general has a problem with making the characters look consistently the same in different images

[haughty hill]

references to Moors/Mauri in contemporary records can be found everywhere in europe for like, as long as we have documents for

[orchid acorn]

finally my alt backs me up

[raven perch]

But Hermes still definitely looks asian in h1

[sleek oar]

I thought hermes was eastern asian since h1 tbh

[velvet hearth]

People calling me a white supremassist bc they are so terminally online they think greeks were white lmfao

[bronze oak]

You realize that all of Greek mythos is made up and doesn't have a solid throughline at all right

[raven perch]

I thought he was southeast asian

[haughty hill]

(which was a catch-all term used at the time, they weren't necessarily from Mauretania but like, I'm not here to give an etymology lecture)

[broken glen]

…we don’t?

[raven perch]

My Filipino king

[orchid acorn]

but anyway tldr hades 2 hermes is like the rhodey recast in iron man 2

[oak ivy]

Yeah sort of, but he does look pretty different otherwise..
It is kinda awkward because of the angle on that sprite..

[sleek oar]

Nooo we kinda just said you said a weird thing

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/im-here-deal-with-it-look-its-me-im-here-deal-with-it-gif-8687639105289171842

[oak ivy]

Hermes in h2 got a huge glow up haha

[raven perch]

It’s cuz he looks older

[granite mauve]

[broken glen]

This is a MODERN artist’s interpretation of the Greek gods, they can make them look like whatever they want

[velvet hearth]

You do realize that it depends on the time right? And most of them had interpretations that are similar between them

[candid geode]

I wonder if they will address how long the actual timeskip was

[velvet hearth]

True im just saying I didnt like it lmfao

[pale aspen]

I mean for argument’s sake.. do all the gods in game have to be predisposed of being greek descent just bc the greeks worship them?

[sleek oar]

Are we getting ragebaited

[raven perch]

There are some sources that note the gods as having darker skin too I believe?

[candid geode]

From pre h2 to current h2

[broken glen]

I fear we are

[pallid cradle]

No one got a bigger glow up than Demeter. Went from a YouTube meme god to actual usefulness

[raven perch]

Also this too, Aphrodite sources from Ishtar, an Indo-European goddess

[velvet hearth]

Olive skin which is basically light brown

[candid geode]

Hey guys at least it's not lore Olympus

[crude dragon]

Well, guy did just join today

So the possibility is there

[robust basin]

Which still should mean white🤔

[broken glen]

Masterful ragebait ngl

[raven perch]

Pallas is a reference to her friend in myth I believe

[velvet hearth]

Im just saying hermes being asian, nyx being indian make little to no sense historically

[radiant apex]

Mods, can we break this guy's kneecaps send him to Tartarus

[raven perch]

Nyx does Nawt look Indian the hell

[velvet hearth]

Not everyone who has andifferent opinion than you is ragebaiting

[meager garden]

did a racist guy join again

[raven perch]

Are you saying that just because she has a ferroniere

[wintry dagger]

Hypnos finally wakes up in present day like Captain America at the end of First Avenger, surrounded by modern Greece

End title card advertises Hades 2077

[raven perch]

I don’t even think she does

[candid geode]

Dude

[radiant apex]

does the day end in Y

[haughty hill]

why would it make more sense if they were white, unpack this for me

[bronze oak]

yea

[pale aspen]

It’s just a matter of subjective taste i guess

[limpid oar]

Nyx is Indian?

[velvet hearth]

You tumblr/twitter crusaders call anyone who disagrees a racist lmfao

[raven perch]

He’s saying they should all have olive tones

[crude dragon]

I dunno, usually it's a crypto bot

[velvet hearth]

SHOW ME WHERE I SAID WHITE

[sleek oar]

I love how melinoe being one of the most minor of minor goddesses, not hades’ child in most myths is not a problem at all for this history buff. No, the gods’ skin colour is the problem

[robust basin]

Dude they make black characters white everyday, the one time they do not pander to your vision of white supremacy you complain?
People in the Mediterranean were never white.

[raven perch]

You said you didn’t think they should be people of colour

[bronze oak]

take accountability for your own ignorant takes little bro

[radiant apex]

> is on Discord
> "Tumblr/Twitter crusaders"

hmm

[haughty hill]

then why are you complaining about hermes and nyx rather than melinoe and zagreus

[velvet hearth]

I never said whiteeee

God damn I KNOW GREEKS ARE NOT WHITE

You twitter crusaders neeed to listen to what im saying

[raven perch]

Yeah then why aren’t you also mad that Melinoe is pale as a sheet

[haughty hill]

I mean that's entirely dependent on the time period, much like 'are the Irish white'

[meager garden]

alright I gotta get back to focusing on class have fun

[raven perch]

If they’re supposed to be olive toned then why aren’t you mad she’s not olive toned

[limpid oar]

Twitter isn't even a thing anymore

[pale aspen]

Let’s just chill out guys.. we’re all just being subjective here

[raven perch]

Not really

[haughty hill]

but that aside, I'm specifically asking why you're lasering in on hermes or nyx rather than the many white gods

[radiant apex]

> is on Discord
> Twitter crusaders

hmm

[pallid cradle]

What?

[unkempt zodiac]

This conversation is lasting a while...

[twin apex]

i didn't go to class in the first place

[limpid oar]

Did the bot get you

[velvet hearth]

Which white gods? Melinoe ? Id prefere if she was more olive skinned too

[pallid cradle]

I have no clue what the bot hit in that message.

[velvet hearth]

Like odysseus

[robust basin]

Lol

[limpid oar]

Yesss Dyno let's go

[red wind]

so hyped for 1.0!

[velvet hearth]

Odysseys and Icarus are the best designs for me because they look very greek

[trim tulip]

I think the convo is getting out of hand. Like, the original statement that sparked it can be discussed, but y'all are putting words in this person's mouth at this point

[sleek oar]

But why are you fixating on skin color, thats so weird bro

[raven perch]

Icarus looks like a British schoolboy tf

[velvet hearth]

Thank you…idk what is going on

[red wind]

what did I walk into?

[velvet hearth]

ITS PART OF THE DESIGN IM FIXING ON ETNICITY NOT JUST SKIN COLOR

[granite mauve]

gamers are so obsessed with skin color because they never get any sunlight 😔

[robust basin]

Apparently...😬 It's news to me. It would be in line with having shiva on the coat though

[sleek oar]

I am literally greek, you know not everyone is the same shade right?

[haughty hill]

Melinoe, Medea, Aphrodite, Demeter, Zeus, Eris, Icarus and Heracles, from a quick skim of h2 characters

[unkempt zodiac]

So the reason Gods in hades are sometimes race-swapped is AFAIK to give more ownership to supergiant. It's their characters and they reinterpret the source material to make their own thing. Thus, these aren't just the Greek gods, it's the God characters of a diverse cast of game artists

[pale aspen]

No one is being racist like damn.. give Soul Burn a break

[red wind]

backs away from this convo

[broken glen]

I’m saying

[wise ledge]

Tf did I wake up to

[pallid cradle]

Medea is safe from criticism simply out of fear of Foolish showing up with the aspect of Medea at your door

[meager garden]

I think artemis looked cooler in Hades 1

[neon isle]

i think all the characters should be asian because itd make Soul mad

[orchid acorn]

yesss

[meager garden]

that's my hot take for the day

[candid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/contrapoints-how-dare-you-entirely-gif-20670417

[orchid acorn]

artemis was so much better in h1

[sleek oar]

100% agree tbh

[radiant apex]

here's my question: Where does Icarus lie on the Schoolboy->Twink scale

[raven perch]

He’s not a twink

[haughty hill]

is that a scale I thought it was more a venn diagram for character design

[radiant apex]

Right but where is he. How close is he

[pale aspen]

Retweet man. Her portrait pose in H2 js so not like her

[bronze oak]

hes built hes not a twink at all...

[raven perch]

He’s more like.. a soccer player or somethin

[robust basin]

Are you in Kamchatka?

[pallid cradle]

I can't believe I called you a real one at one point. Mods, remove that statement from the record.

[bronze oak]

his boobs are literally big

[radiant apex]

my thoughts exactly but Meow is vehement that boy is not a twink

[neon isle]

i suppose icarus could be a twink

i see him as a twink because hes pathetic

[haughty hill]

well, is twinkhood relative

[wise ledge]

Nah, it's 20:07 here, I just have a flipped sleep schedule

[limpid oar]

Chat not every bottom is a twink

[robust basin]

Asia is so big it we could have Indonesian Poseidon.

[neon isle]

not every sub is a twink but icarus is

[haughty hill]

ye olde guilty gear's slimmest twink vs. genshin's beefiest man

[oak ivy]

exactly!

[sleek oar]

Ppl love calling young looking guys twinks 💔

[raven perch]

A twink is definitionally a skinny hairless gay dude

[neon isle]

thats true

[robust basin]

Oh! I hope you rested well!:)

[neon isle]

i fear this is me but ive been scaling it back

[radiant apex]

Nah nah nah. Icarus is a subtop.

[sleek oar]

I am one half of these things

[raven perch]

Hairless yes

[velvet hearth]

You will never be able to engage in conversations about what makes each ethnicity unique and powerful and cool. You are so focused on everything being a twitter crusade. “STAND BACK poc, me the white person will debate this for you” this is what you guys sound like.
I think Icarus and Odysseus designs are amazing bc they look like greeks. Also Narcissus design

[oak ivy]

no no he's a service top 🥰

[broken glen]

I am one of those things

[neon isle]

VERS!!!!

[robust basin]

Do people think those are synonyms?

[raven perch]

Lilac you get me

[radiant apex]

very similar and has some overlap

[velvet hearth]

Wrong person

[robust basin]

I'm learning concerning western words

[oak ivy]

❤️ 🤭

[raven perch]

It’s just sex

[velvet hearth]

Anyway I think Aphrodite, odysseus and icarus are the best designs by far

[neon isle]

why are you strawmanning everyone in this discord as a twitter user, while simultaneously complaining about not being able to engage in a conversation?

[pallid cradle]

Wtf does that term mean

[raven perch]

Though we should tone it down

[pale aspen]

Icarus is not a top. He’s a blouse

[radiant apex]

Shut up about racism we're talking about beautiful bisexual boys now

[velvet hearth]

[raven perch]

It is bi visibility day

[broken glen]

We’re talking about twinks now

[sleek oar]

Ohh righttt it is

[raven perch]

He’s not a twink!!!

[robust basin]

But she looked flat. Here she has character!

[sleek oar]

Happy bi visibility day to zagreus and melinoe

[limpid oar]

Can we talk about the rivals Hecate buffs you'd like to see in 1.0? Fight's too easy

[raven perch]

Her pose was more dynamic

[granite mauve]

it’s the first boss in the game it’s fine

[velvet hearth]

Do you guys think we will get a zeus and aphrodite 3d models

[raven perch]

Probably

[pallid cradle]

The split should be 6 balls, not 3 and revert the Frenzy nerf to bosses.

That'll fix it

[haughty hill]

I haven't posted on twitter in years nor did I accuse you of being a white supremacist or whatnot, I just asked you to clarify why Hermes was the problem rather than any of the gods I listed.

[limpid oar]

Maybe she should just sheep you at the start of the fight and you have to fight her as a sheep?

[sleek oar]

As a bisexual i feel very distressed on this day

[raven perch]

No

[raven perch]

You are visible

[sleek oar]

Calling biphobia

[haughty hill]

[pallid cradle]

I'm down. She's about to have a baaaaaaaad time

Mods, you can ban me for that one. I deserve it.

[oak ivy]

I am OBSERVING you 👁️ 👁️

[robust basin]

That pose was fire

[sleek oar]

Thank you guys thats so nice

[granite mauve]

im straightphobic

[bronze oak]

me

[pale aspen]

I just want my threeway hotbath date with Heph and Heracles. Is that too much to ask for

[neon isle]

personally as a bi person i think people should always be observing me

[velvet hearth]

I was replying to sadberry

[bronze oak]

oh noooo the bath is too small i have to sit between them with our thighs touching how terribleeee

[robust basin]

Mods are fanfic's evolution

[velvet hearth]

?

[haughty hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874854721968541736/1420095508805976074/image.png?ex=68d42681&is=68d2d501&hm=9f724f781914fd1e64cb0202d8e4598bd4a1c86989767b6a587b9e592906b238& ???

[velvet hearth]

It was a mistake thats why I said wrong person

[granite mauve]

you heard me

[radiant apex]

based

[oak ivy]

flower vendor how do you keep finding more beef with random people hahaha 😭

[limpid oar]

Flower Vendor about to find beef with Dyno

[oak ivy]

dyno 😔

[sleek oar]

Guys no cursing, dyno will be sad 😞

[pale aspen]

p0rn music started playing in the bg

[haughty hill]

y'know what [censored by an overactive hall monitor] that's fair I completely missed that follow up

[pallid cradle]

Well damn, I don't feel like I did anything.

[haughty hill]

I have been beefing with dyno since I joined the server

[robust basin]

Flower vendor has just so many beautiful flowers and people just cannot resist

[loud cliff]

What is going on

[neon isle]

i dont understand why people still use dyno in the big 25

carl has more features and you can fall back to the discord built ins these days

[velvet hearth]

Im gayphobic

[robust basin]

That's a common gripe

[granite mauve]

don’t fricking swear

[velvet hearth]

[neon isle]

its not even like you need the dyno reaction role stuff because discord has that built in too 😭

[pallid cradle]

Unless it's an approved swear. Like hell, ass, or damn.

[haughty hill]

yeah except there's like 80 common typos it'll get you for too

[granite mauve]

not for long

[neon isle]

like im not a "we should always use corporate features" guy but theres really no point

[velvet hearth]

[sleek oar]

Carl amd dyno can be friends

[neon isle]

we'll have blocking on discord that actually works by 2030

[robust basin]

Twat

Git

[velvet hearth]

I gotta say the crossroads isnt as good as the mansion. Also Melinoe isnt as charismatic as Zagreus

[sleek oar]

Discord bot fanfic 20k words fast burn

[broken glen]

Just wanted to drop by to say that this is based and real

[haughty hill]

bloody good fun, eh?

[radiant apex]

🙌 TWAT CONFIRMED NOT A BAD WORD 🙌

[robust basin]

Jolly good sir

[granite mauve]

im glad meli is different

[velvet hearth]

Youre a Verso hater? No wonder I sensed a disturbance

[sleek oar]

Help me 😭😭😭😭

[velvet hearth]

She is so plain compared to Zagreus

[robust basin]

I am always impressed by what SGG accomplished

[sleek oar]

Soul are you this bored

[haughty hill]

I have never hated a video game character more, genuinely

[bronze oak]

mel is amazing i love her sm

[neon isle]

i can agree with some of that tbh

[candid nimbus]

Zag is the ADHD son I never had, Mel is the autistic daughter I never had

[limpid oar]

What about Hecate

[neon isle]

i think melinoe has more emotional depth but the relationships she has with characters isnt immeiately obvious

[haughty hill]

not even close I just don't like her rivals fight

[velvet hearth]

Im sorry if you think Melinoe isnt swritten as plain idk what to tell you

[neon isle]

also, the book of shadows is not as good as achilles

[velvet hearth]

I love him

[pale aspen]

She was born in a warcamp.. doesnt mean she’s boring for that. She has a different upbringing from Zag

[robust basin]

Ur Hecate.... Oh titans...

[sleek oar]

I like book of shadows a lot more tbh, and rhat might just be since we can track the boons

[neon isle]

achilles and odysseus are like the flirting vs harassment images to me

[haughty hill]

You are of one mind with the director then. I was not impressed and the writers' attempts to suck him off simply made me double my hate every time they tried it.

so it ended up multiplied by like several billion by the end

[robust basin]

The moon boons are a nightmare

[neon isle]

both achilles and odysseus are divorced but achilles is better.... like i dont have a problem with divorced people i just hate it when they make it their whole personality 🙄

[velvet hearth]

Wowowow you are going past the character to hate the director. You WANTED to hate him

[raven perch]

I actually think Mel’s lack of emotional depth makes her more interesting

[haughty hill]

🎣

[bronze oak]

help all achilles talks about is his dead gay husband

[robust basin]

I hate that Odysseus is just there chilling almost not in this fight... He seems distant from our reality

[sleek oar]

Hes dead too tho 🤧

[velvet hearth]

Lmfao how is that bait. Anytime someone has a diff opinion is bait for you guys

[neon isle]

i think her lack of emotional depth gives her more emotional depth than zagreus, we dont really get a clear look into What's Wrong with zagreus besides he hates his parents

[raven perch]

Zagreus is a very emotional person, but Mel does not actually care about her own situation all that much

[radiant apex]

same, i LOVE how closed off girliepop is and how she's learning to do literally anything outside of hunting down Chronos through the course of the game

[velvet hearth]

[neon isle]

theres a lot thats wrong with mel to explore

[radiant apex]

she was a weapon built up for one sole purpose but now she's realizing she isn't just that and that's delicious

[velvet hearth]

I guess she will get a persoanlity aftrr we complete a run

[sleek oar]

The more therapy a character needs the better 🫡

[raven perch]

I’d say we do! Zagreus is a bit self-centered as he struggles to conceptualize people’s lives without him in them

[granite mauve]

she already has a personality 😭

[haughty hill]

It's bait in that you jumped to an unfounded unfalsifiable accusation rather than literally any other option available to you. You are not some sort of innovator in the field of causing problems online here, everyone's seen it before.

[velvet hearth]

Yeah trope we seen but idk if it hits well here

[neon isle]

innovator ?innovator?

[radiant apex]

Do you do, like, anything around here other than piss me off

[bronze oak]

if u just block that person then the chat gets 10x better vibes

[raven perch]

That’s not quite what I mean: Mel has thoughts and feelings of course, but she’s not especially plagued by distress in the way you’d figure she would be, as a child soldier

[radiant apex]

goated idea

[radiant apex]

but she's not a human child soldier, she is a Goddess, so she matures a little differently

[raven perch]

Mel is rather content being a living weapon, she genuinely does not mind

[robust basin]

"oh I have to kill the two most powerful creatures in creation? Whatevs... Later losers."

[neon isle]

okay cool discord is so buggy with links 😭

[bronze oak]

its all she's ever known after all

[velvet hearth]

You guys block/ignore any opinion that goes against what YOU like. The world isnt as closed off as you think it is. Me saying Melinoe isnt as charismatic as Zagreus isnt to “piss you off” idgaf wether it pisses you off or not

Its my opinion and I stand by it we can discuss it

[pale aspen]

Yeah like can you blame her for that

[bronze oak]

hecacte was a good mother figure to her but she's not going to help her be more emotionally expressive

[raven perch]

I mean you’re right that she’s not as charismatic.

[haughty hill]

Melinoe isn't as charismatic as Zagreus, that's true

[neon isle]

there are people not going after you in this channel who talked about comparisons between mel and zag

[raven perch]

Despite her best efforts!

[radiant apex]

oh my god someone on the internet has an exaggerative style of typing in order to come across as vivacious and lively and fun! they obviously want my blood when they say that I've pissed them off

[robust basin]

Dude... There's no point...

[wise ledge]

Melinoe isnt as charismatic as Zagreus
Absolutely agree. I'm replaying the first game, and I like Zag so much better

[velvet hearth]

I think the soldier child thing is a good trope written down but in practice here falls a nit flat but given I havent finished a complete run

[velvet hearth]

Yeah Melinoe just…comments on things

[haughty hill]

I think she's got more depth and more complex feelings, though. Zagreus is fundamentally very straightforward, he's just very compelling about it (which is kind of funny, in contrast with where he acts as closer to a trickster god a bunch while Melinoe is all blunt straightforward brute force most of the time)

[bronze oak]

also cats are more chill than dogs. see you can say anything in a vaccuum

[robust basin]

You get a line every three messages saying "hidden message"

[velvet hearth]

She almost doesnt have anything unique about she express herself so far

[radiant apex]

better than the alternative

[orchid acorn]

"you guys" is crazy work 😭

[granite mauve]

what if hades 2 was woke and instead of killing Chronos you dyed his hair blue 😲

[raven perch]

I don’t think Mel has more complex feelings necessarily

[crude dragon]

You still get "1 blocked message" every few lines

[velvet hearth]

Hmmm id say Zagreus is more straightforward

[raven perch]

Because she doesn’t have many feelings on her situation

[crude dragon]

I'd prefer they not be acknowledged at all by Discord

[bronze oak]

help i have sm people blocked on every maincord that im used to it

[haughty hill]

To be clear I don't mean she has more a complex emotional range I don't really go in for that sort of statement, but she's in a very complex situation and has a lot of extremely contradictory feelings and impulses about it

[velvet hearth]

Meant nothing bad by it, jsut this chat

[raven perch]

This I do agree with

[limpid oar]

I think y'all are overthinking this, Melinoe is a witch which immediately makes her super cool

[radiant apex]

Coldshade based as always

[haughty hill]

While Zagreus is in a layered, but still fairly straightforward situation where he has the luxury of just Being Correct and knowing that.

[orchid acorn]

witchhat = cool

thats why toula is best pet at 1.0

[raven perch]

To an extent I kinda worry that some of the contradiction is unintended by the writers 😅

[radiant apex]

Melinoe is a bisexual autistic witch she's literally the coolest person in the game

[bronze oak]

not only is she a witch she's gay which is cooler

[velvet hearth]

I think it is lol

[orchid acorn]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/BIGUnq-hBUmbPLOcBw_uAvBW82ogYWOGPZWysYPP-FA/https/shared.fastly.steamstatic.com/community_assets/images/apps/1145350/de76cc0181c620b67823ea1154d3325b5a32679f.jpg?format=webp&width=320&height=320

[velvet hearth]

In contrast to the first one?

[pale aspen]

Ya’ll are over here calling her boring when ya’ll are also living for her when she was aura farming in the official trailer like..

[raven perch]

Zagreus is a bisexual adhd jock.. he’s less cool…

[haughty hill]

Well I'm pretty sure the repeated doubts over "are the Olympians in the right" are not like, accidents :p

[robust basin]

Zag: "me hate daddy. Me in prison. Me gets out."
Public: standing ovation
We just needed the right mix between edgy buff that has an arc in which they mature

[bronze oak]

oldest son energy

[velvet hearth]

She can aura farm all she wants, when its dialogue time she falls flat

[rough horizon]

I hope Frinos gets a crown, my glorious king deserves it

[radiant apex]

RIGHT LIKE....... everyone was Her Back this and Aura Farming that........ where did that energy go

[robust basin]

True

[candid nimbus]

Truer words haven't been spoken

[granite mauve]

lots of boring characters aura farm

[raven perch]

Well Mel has known that the Olympians are cruel, she’s never cared about it before. And it’s not as though she’s just gonna stop fighting on their side of the war either

[radiant apex]

and Mel isn't one of them NEXT QUESTION

[velvet hearth]

Melinoe for example xD

[haughty hill]

I feel like people have forgotten the meaning of aura farming

[candid nimbus]

So we all agree Zag is ADHD-coded and Mel is autistic-coded, right?

[haughty hill]

if you're being effective you aren't aura farming-

[limpid oar]

forgotten? I don't even know what that means in the first place, I feel old

[radiant apex]

it's a term from AAVE it was destined for b*stardization

[raven perch]

I did not really like the release trailer all too much! I thought it was visual overstimulating with a not-so-clear artistic vision

You can say bastard

[radiant apex]

Oh hell yeah I didn't wanna get Dyno'd

[robust basin]

You practice good self care. It's ok. Last time it happened here I literally left...

[haughty hill]

I hate diagnosing fictional characters so I would argue no :p

[bronze oak]

mel has been one of the only characters in hades so far that has even challenged the gods (other than the antagonists obviously) which i think is interesting. though she kinda lost her spine with the arachne situation

[granite mauve]

truth nuke

[crude dragon]

Yes, like their mother and father respectively

[raven perch]

She has not challenged the gods?

[candid nimbus]

I said "coded" no "diagnosed"

[raven perch]

She literally hasn’t

[velvet hearth]

I mean…you can headcanon it if you want

[limpid oar]

so true, diagnosing other discord users is so much more fun

[robust basin]

So cute

[bronze oak]

she's been vocal about disagreeing with how the gods handle situations with mortals

[granite mauve]

this chat is so artistic ❤️

[radiant apex]

soul burn was created in a lab to give the worst possible takes on everything Hades 2 I think

[raven perch]

Not really

[hallow vault]

2 days until Bisexuals win again

[velvet hearth]

Not really

[hallow vault]

Cant wait to restart again

Im hyped af lmao

[granite mauve]

2 days until everybody wins

[raven perch]

She has no commentary on Thessaly, for example. And she actively does not care about Narcissus’ curse

[granite mauve]

except Chronos 💀

[haughty hill]

When you're attributing a specific disorder it's diagnosis by definition, I would say.

[bronze oak]

thats just because narcissus is annoying

[limpid oar]

are we sure it isn't Kaser on an alt account?

[radiant apex]

I'm definitely not going to restart my game until I reach the equivalent of the epilogue

[raven perch]

She asks Odysseus if she’s fighting on the right side, but Ody gives a half-assed answer and fails to actually challenge her beliefs

[bronze oak]

also im disappointed that she doesnt have commentary on thessaly i wish she did 💔 maybe in 1.0

[robust basin]

I envy you people for that... You probably can defeat Chronos on a fresh file

[crude dragon]

Nah, it's factory-standard bad takes

[velvet hearth]

You were created in a lab to survive having jokes that drop harder than you were dropped in the head as a child

Hows that

[hallow vault]

I suck at his rivals foem

Form 😭

[bronze oak]

yea i agree that she doesnt go far enough but the fact that the doubt is even there is more than most other characters in the games

[crude dragon]

(Seriously, write off the drama tourist already)

[haughty hill]

She's primed to be sympathetic over Circe's curse on Scylla but Scylla tells her to screw off and Narcissus seems pretty eminently happy with his situation and plus like, as we've argued before.

He deserved it a lot more than Arachne and Scylla did.

[radiant apex]

i have nearly all weapons maxed (just need to max 3 more), all keepsakes maxed, all arcana maxed, nearly every relationship maxed. no way i'm going back until it's actually 100%'d

[raven perch]

Not more than Eris or Nem or Prometheus

[bronze oak]

for sure, and theyre all peak

[haughty hill]

fresh file is extremely not fun I personally am not even going to try for it

[bronze oak]

ERIS AND NEM ARE MY FAVORITES CHARS 😭

[hallow vault]

I do

[radiant apex]

incomprehensible thank you

[raven perch]

In fact most people hold more nuanced opinions than Mel, the story follows Mel as she gets opinions from other characters and updates her worldview

[haughty hill]

Mel is very sheltered as of story start yeah

[limpid oar]

hey there's no rivals Hecate in fresh file, I thought you'd like it

[raven perch]

The only person who holds a similar naivete to Mel is Icarus I think

[haughty hill]

Icarus downloaded his political beliefs from Mel when they were younger and hasn't bothered to update them since

[radiant apex]

even then Icarus warns her against trying to get his body back because he remembers the consequences the last time she tried

[limpid oar]

Hypnos would definitely match her if he wasn't eepy

[radiant apex]

so he seems slightly less naive

[raven perch]

That’s not quite the naivete I’m referring to; I’m moreso speaking to naivete about the war

[hallow vault]

Mel u can see that she only grew up with one purpose

[bronze oak]

youre making it sound like she has no convictions of her own outside of her mission though

[hallow vault]

She Experiences everything likw a puppy and is brainwashed that the gods do nothing Wrong

[radiant apex]

yeah you're right, his concern is moreso about HER suffering further consequences than the overall war effort, my b

[raven perch]

She kinda doesn’t

[hallow vault]

Prometheus tries so hard to break through lol

But her brain is Like "THE GODS DO AND DID NOTHING WORNG"

[robust basin]

Well you won't get it on a fresh file for a while!

[raven perch]

Mel cares about helping people yes! But she only really helps them insofar as it doesn’t get in the way of her ultimate quest

[haughty hill]

I mean she adapts to this like, genuinely pretty quickly??

[raven perch]

Like, you wouldn’t see Mel help out Prometheus for example

[velvet hearth]

Meow what do you think Zagreus will do in the story if anything

[raven perch]

Die

[hallow vault]

Yeah she starts to question the Gods

[robust basin]

For me it is not, but I heard some people running fresh files all the time.

[hallow vault]

The more she talks ro Prometheus

[raven perch]

Not really

Prometheus doesn’t help her with her revelation that’s more Arachne and Dora

[haughty hill]

Yeah there's a small community but it's like why would I play a worse version of the game when I can just run high fear instead.

[radiant apex]

Killing Zag would be BOLD and would have to happen after the events of 1.0 because Mel explicitly says to Arty that she can sense Zag's presence and he's alive

[hallow vault]

She asks Odyseeus how the gids

[bronze oak]

mel is the definition of a sheltered war child so in that sense a lot of her naivety is accurate. though i think its clear she has her own persona and worldview on how the creatures of the world should be treated

[radiant apex]

but I'd be interested in seeing how they* pull it off (the writing team)

[granite mauve]

replaces skelly as new training master after skelly sacrifices himself to kill typhon

RIP skelly

[hallow vault]

Ngl i ask myself how he didnt side with Prometheus

[robust basin]

And kill them all

[radiant apex]

oh this is heat tho

[raven perch]

He might share Prommy’s beliefs but he doesn’t want to actively defy the gods

[robust basin]

Challenge? And fixed seed?

[orchid acorn]

wait hold on

[raven perch]

Cuz look what happened last time 😔

[hallow vault]

Like all of his suffering is caused cause the Olympians were feeling funny

[orchid acorn]

you are cooking lowkey

[haughty hill]

62 fear is harder and also more fun

[orchid acorn]

skelly being plot relevant would be incredible

[robust basin]

Like not me, but some people run 50 fear... For them probably it is not even a challenge

[hallow vault]

Skelly is too powerful

[robust basin]

Yeah... I'm just weak

[hallow vault]

I cant lmao

[raven perch]

I can barely run 25 consistently 😔

[orchid acorn]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRSEXQMalZUA5qN8dz1NGR_LDPuEq61AZYkVg&s type beat

[granite mauve]

skelly does a fusion dance with chaos and becomes primordial schelemeus and has a boxing match with typhon

[limpid oar]

The epilogue achievement is called Golden Age, that's totally foreshadowing of Mel siding with Chronos and fighting the gods

[velvet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[raven perch]

Not necessarily

[robust basin]

I don't remember this chapter

[sleek oar]

Fusion dance… i havent heard these words in 15 years

[raven perch]

It could be Mel’s idea of a Golden Age

[limpid oar]

oh I was being sarcastic, mb should've made that clearer

[haughty hill]

fresh file is still a challenge because it's got a lot of stupid things in it

[raven perch]

Oh lol mb

[idle cypress]

do achievements work for you? i started a new save, but i didnt get the ones for clearing areas

[haughty hill]

health manipulation, for example

[raven perch]

Not until 1.0

[onyx nymph]

the gods cannot die though

[raven perch]

The incantations imply removing immortality

[robust basin]

I like this a lot lol

[orchid acorn]

and you never will cause oda hates usopp 😔

[bronze oak]

isnt fresh file run in h1 the equivalent of like 40 something heat

[haughty hill]

The thing is it's as hard as it is because Mel sucks so it's not like, fun in the way high fear is for me

[robust basin]

BUT GOD USOPP??? WHY? HOW?

[idle cypress]

ohh okk thanks... i'm gonna stop playing the new save

[limpid oar]

same tbh

[radiant apex]

good point. I'd trust SGG to do this in a way that doesn't feel like an asspull but I don't know if I, personally, could pull that off as a writer

[limpid oar]

in h1 I was seriously trying fresh file at some point but I was losing my mind playing aspectless sword with one dash so I never did a clear

[robust basin]

Because you can do so little and there is very little of the game to engage? Yeah I get it

[meager garden]

I have faith that SGG will do something

[robust basin]

But it can also mean that you have less thinking to do. Like chaos runs

[raven perch]

H2 fresh file you can’t even run the best route

[sleek oar]

There will be at lwast 1 new line of dialogue in 1.0

[velvet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/expedition-33-expedition-33-verso-verso-verso-expedition-33-veros-gif-17827724235090756175

[bronze oak]

single dash in h1 feels like youre in a wheelchair

[raven perch]

Not on my watch

[radiant apex]

ok time for my last Void Lens everyone wish me luck on this run so I can finally get the fate reroll incantation

[limpid oar]

bro chill with the spoilers

[radiant apex]

yeah wtf cmon

[haughty hill]

I hope you get natural athena on time 3

[sleek oar]

Sorry guys mods dont kick me 🤧

[radiant apex]

this might be the nicest thing anyone's said to me thank you i love you

[hallow vault]

dc

[velvet hearth]

If you 100% hades 2 before release you get a 3some scene with Aphrodite and Hephasteus

[radiant apex]

Wait hold on maybe this guy isn't ragebaiting

[hallow vault]

I started fresh with Hades too

[granite mauve]

does heph use the hammer

[pale aspen]

It’s already canon in my head

[idle cypress]

does aphro use the spear?

[hallow vault]

Like i wanna start fresh again

Aphrodite 💤💤

[robust basin]

No but he hammers

[graceful sundial]

wait has it been released already? the achievements are available through the steam page.

[hallow vault]

Prefer Dionysius

[velvet hearth]

Heph watches as Melinoe goes down on Aphrodite

[merry whale]

nah 2 more days

[hallow vault]

Like i wanna rly start fresh

[limpid oar]

can't wait for the Hera divorcing Zeus + romancing Mel storyline 🔥 🔥

[velvet hearth]

Good

[graceful sundial]

cant waittt

[graceful sundial]

lmao

[velvet hearth]

Supergiant give me a 3some scene with Aprhodite and Hephasteus and my life is yours

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-destroy-my-enemies-and-my-life-is-yours-gif-7965707800203237625

[graceful sundial]

what do you guys think it's going to happen to ||dora|| since her plot has been revealed?

[limpid oar]

would it happen in an Aphro vs Heph family dispute room?

[radiant apex]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[idle cypress]

legendary threesome with her, mel and prom

[radiant apex]

Fun fact I didn't equip Cloud Bangle a single time until roughly run 140 because f Zeus

[hallow vault]

Cant wait to start fresh lmao

What i Think will Happen when i start frsh in 1.0 i will be Obsessed with this Game for the next 4-5 weeks

[velvet hearth]

If I have 2 hrs is it worth to start fresh

[broken glen]

What did I join back to

And why do I feel like someone’s already written that

[velvet hearth]

2 hrs in a official steam

[bronze oak]

blitz goes crazy though...

[limpid oar]

Prooooooobably not, just keep going on your save

[radiant apex]

did yall see that video of the first successful 62 Fear run and how it ||would have failed if the runner had taken another half-second||. Crazy stuff

[idle cypress]

this is a certain type of community

[limpid oar]

67*

[radiant apex]

my b you're right

[broken glen]

Foolish is REALLY good

That run was a buzzer beater

[radiant apex]

Had never heard of Foolish before but they're my god now

Hope I get some Foolish boons on this Olympus run

[broken glen]

Foolish chats here a lot

You’ll probably spot them eventually

[limpid oar]

they recorded voice lines where Melinoe says "Foolish" because he's so cool

[radiant apex]

Foolish-senpai please notice me

[velvet hearth]

Tyvm

[candid nimbus]

Happy bisexuality visibility day, I guess

[radiant apex]

yes Blitz goes crazy but I haaate Zeus to the point where I was annoyed that he was the one who helps during the Typhon fight LMAO

[broken glen]

I don’t think anyone actually likes Zeus. Except maybe Zeus

He likes Zeus

[sharp cosmos]

His being ? Hell no. His boons ? Anything except Blitz

[radiant apex]

wow ok dyno thanks

you can all tell I feel very strongly about Zeus.

[broken glen]

Is Dyno controlled by Zeus

[bronze oak]

i like zeus hes just a silly little uncle

[radiant apex]

Dyno: anti-Zeus propaganda? I think not

[hallow vault]

Zeus not only likes Zeus

Zeus also likes any Virgin Young women in a 100 meter Radius

[broken glen]

Are you confusing him with poseidon

[formal merlin]

I can play Hades 2 on phone now

[bronze oak]

theyre both silly but poseidon is sillier

[formal merlin]

Very cool

[radiant apex]

I read Percy Jackson as a kid so I can only ever see that deadbeat as a deadbeat

[velvet hearth]

Zeus is a chad and shouldnt be thought of like his og myhtology

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-smile-happy-cat-staring-happy-cat-gif-7699470421108511910

[radiant apex]

you were so close to being likeable

[crude dragon]

Even Blitz is good

[crude dragon]

Yes, but do they like him

[idle cypress]

blitz on flames special went crazyy

[radiant apex]

lilac got too horny about Icarus again

[oak ivy]

😭 lmaoo

[broken glen]

Thermal dynamics…

[crude dragon]

Romantic Spark (when it procs)

[hallow vault]

So yeah cant wait to grind Out again lol

[oak ivy]

Soul burn really just came in here and decided to have beef with everyone 😔

[icy blade]

what is there to spend zodiac sand on other than the boatman?

[velvet hearth]

You guys remember when official hades artist drew that one MelxAphrodite fanart and everyone found out the art was done by her

[oak ivy]

the seed reroll incantation, called "Acceptance of another fate"

[velvet hearth]

Like nsfw art

[oak ivy]

no, which one???

[radiant apex]

I hesitate to believe you lest I be disappointed that it doesnt exist

[oak ivy]

are you talking about Jen Zee too??

[crude dragon]

Eternity

[keen carbon]

No max keepsakes achievement ?

[velvet hearth]

Yeah Jen made a nsfw melxaphrodite fanart thinking people wouldnt notice it was made by her

[crude dragon]

I think Temporal Fluctuation also requires Zodiac Sand?

[velvet hearth]

And they call it out and its obvious its like basically official “fanart” of melxaphrodite very nsfw lol

[bronze oak]

thank god the grind for that took me so long

[orchid acorn]

👁️

[oak ivy]

I can't find anyone mention it online....

[radiant apex]

yeah imma need SOURCES here

it sounds too good to be true

[onyx nymph]

are you talking about the valentine's day art sgg posted?

[orchid acorn]

yeah wheres the source

[crude dragon]

Insert Senator Armstrong video here

[radiant apex]

SHOW US THE YURI

[oak ivy]

no that was obviously official and not nsfw at all

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/lotion-press-gif-13094455

[velvet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-ruckus-gif-14276990711794990572

Well well well Like mots to a flame

[orchid acorn]

of course im here for the nsfw art who do you think i am

[radiant apex]

i was so mad i got tricked i accidentally f-bombed

MODS!!!!!!! GET THE LIAR

[oak ivy]

I'm just curious because that sounds unlikely as hell

[orchid acorn]

https://preview.redd.it/ngl-i-dont-know-what-gooner-even-means-v0-m3c1016xjjze1.jpeg?width=1170&auto=webp&s=58300aa7a7b0248c27ddf166dcdf8af45a51e023

[velvet hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071779662537183262/1352383353604804729/NNovasaur_-_1902728959759995176.gif

[oak ivy]

what is that gif supposed to mean???? 😭

[radiant apex]

I should have known. Mel/Aphro isn't even the most interesting pair. Why would an artist on the game risk it all for a mid pairing

[onyx nymph]

yeah i call cap

[radiant apex]

Now if you'd said it was Mel/Hecate or Mel/Eris or Mel/Nemesis....

[velvet hearth]

Wdym not the best pair wtf

You WISH we had a nsfe mel aphro sex scene

[radiant apex]

And thus the ragebaiter becomes the ragebaitee

[oak ivy]

I don't care about aphrodite at all personally, I will never cheat on Icarus 😤
I am curious and in it for the drama alone smh

[radiant apex]

also i'm an artist/fanfic writer. if I want to see or read about it i can simply make it happen. you wish you were me

[limpid oar]

neko i really like the elf in your profile picture

[velvet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/citrus-gif-18885710

[radiant apex]

thank you that's my OC I drew it :)

[radiant apex]

ok this is fire actually

[oak ivy]

elves with horizontal long ears >>>>>>> elves with vertical ears

[radiant apex]

FOR REALLLLLLLL get that Warcraft crap out of here. this OC used to be a Warcraft OC until I made my own world for him and the first thing I did? horizontal ears babe

[velvet hearth]

Ive got money so I will just commission it

In commissioning jen herself

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-smile-happy-cat-staring-happy-cat-gif-7699470421108511910

[radiant apex]

i also have money so I will simply commission AND make it myself. you cannot comprehend the boundaries of my power for they do not exist

[raven perch]

Mel/Hecate??? Hecate is her mom?

[velvet hearth]

Well I will comission you in an alt how about that

[radiant apex]

I interpret it more as a mentor/mentee thing

[raven perch]

Mel explicitly says she views Hecate as a mother figure

[radiant apex]

Well I will kiss you how about that.

[raven perch]

• Hecate has raised Mel since she was a newborn

It's like shipping Zag with Nyx

[radiant apex]

i mean, not that I ship Zag/Nyx, but people do that

[velvet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/sakura-trick-kiss-yuri-gif-22001906

[radiant apex]

enemies to lovers speedrun

maybe I should get into speedrunning

[dire sand]

What is happening

[raven perch]

Just leave them be

[radiant apex]

shhh I'm about to femdom someone out of some pseudo-white-supremacist ideas they have about changing ethnicities in fiction

[buoyant matrix]

the passage of time

[dire sand]

Is it soul burn

[radiant apex]

yes

[oak ivy]

people flirting in a public discord, it's so common...

[scenic gust]

2 days more

[velvet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/netsuzou-trap-gif-18994584

[scenic gust]

Let's go.

[dire sand]

Funny to see soul burn has bad takes in both servers we share

[oak ivy]

what's the other server? 👀

[velvet hearth]

You think Silksong deserves goty

[dire sand]

e33

[radiant apex]

soul burn is here to be the yuri antagonist of the discord server it seems and i'm not going to complain about gifs of girls kissing

[dire sand]

See

[velvet hearth]

Yuri antagonist?!

[dire sand]

They think me saying idc whether silksong or e33 wins goty means I prefer silksong

[velvet hearth]

From all your bad adjectives that one is the worst

[scenic gust]

can't wait to spank Grandpa Time in the ..... oops you know the drill

[oak ivy]

Silksong absolutely deserves GOTY more than E33 or any other game, it's not even close imo

[radiant apex]

You're the antagonist and you're sending yuri gifs. Simple as

[velvet hearth]

WHAT

[oak ivy]

like it's crazy how insanely well made Silksong is, it's like one of the best games in the world right now

[dire sand]

I think both can win goty cause both are good games lmao

[sharp cosmos]

I mean, yeah, but I don't like it, there's a lot of other god enhancements on special & attack that I love

[velvet hearth]

[distant hull]

I am craving the full release, I must march down to Chronos like that one moon knight meme.

"I know you're in here, Chronos, you blasted nerd. Where's my godsdamn family?"

[scenic gust]

nope, it's still dependable, E33 was insane too. Triple A but with lower price, high quality, good story.

[dire sand]

Anyway what's the context here

[oak ivy]

we NEED an indie game to finally win a GOTY 🙏

it has to happen and silksong has the best chance

[dire sand]

Does indie even mean anything anymore

[radiant apex]

soul burn kept sending me yuri gifs so i'm going to romance them and make them into a better person. for fun

I Can Fix Them

[oak ivy]

make them like Silksong more!!!

[dire sand]

The context of the second half of that not the femdom half

[scenic gust]

Indie game winning ain't possible when GOTY already marked for biggest projects. Unless that year is not having that much competitive options

[dire sand]

I do not require the romance context it doesnt interest me

[velvet hearth]

Describe your father for me

Hades 2 even in EA deserves goty more than Silksong

[radiant apex]

look back at the chat earlier, Soul Burn came in here and immediately was like (paraphrasing heavily) "I don't really love that they changed the ethnicities of some of the gods in Hades compared to how they're historically described" which then kinda devolved into the whole chat clowning on them for these ideas which are just way too close to white supremacy for comfort

[velvet hearth]

Silksong is overhyped and plagued with bad design choices

[radiant apex]

Loving, kind, answers my phone calls immediately, my hero

[oak ivy]

okay this says more than enough that you're biased as hell and don't know how to judge games 😔

[dire sand]

The gods are not historically described with an ethnicity

[velvet hearth]

Goat

[radiant apex]

Facts

[radiant apex]

Correct but Soul Burn had the idea that their ethnicities WERE described and that these described ethnicities were contrary to how SGG depicts them

[velvet hearth]

Gods are described through multiple scultures and drawings in vases.
The greeks saw then as themselves

Afrer thr mythd greeks imagined them like well greeks

I just said I wanted them more to look like greeks

And then I got called a white supremacist

[dire sand]

Afrer thr mythd

[raven perch]

what does a "greek" look like to you

[velvet hearth]

Well light brown skin, curly sometimes hair. Ofc not the same but back then there wasnt as much culture diversity in greece. Most peopke had a look to them

[dire sand]

peopke

[velvet hearth]

Like odysseus and icarus are my favorite designs because of that

They look very greek to me

[velvet hearth]

Animefied tho

[raven perch]

What makes you say that

[idle cypress]

I mean, that's what helps them stand out? If all of them looked like that, you'd just end up with bland character design😭😭😭😭

[dire sand]

Also the gods can look however they wish in a sense

[velvet hearth]

I disagree. Theres more to character design than eniticies

[dire sand]

enicities

[velvet hearth]

You can justify it a thousand different ways. But you can also do that to any mythos or religion anywhere

Melinoe is also maybe too pale

[dire sand]

You can

The power of myths is them adapting and changing to contemporary cultures

[radiant apex]

"i want the character design to be objectively worse because it matches my idea of what these people should look like (and this idea includes paler skin than the actual design)" is an idea granted to you by white supremacy btw. The idea that The Ultimate Beings would look any one way, especially in a multicultural society like Ancient Greece, is not one that you came up with on your own

[dire sand]

Arthurian tales changed and still change all the time

Greek and roman mythology has been reworked and adapted over and over again

Into tales of old, and tales of now, such as Marvel comics, or the percy jackson books

[velvet hearth]

You attributing any opinion to “x” movement bas been a hyper perma online take. Not everything is white supremancy. Not everything is mysoginy, not everything is ableism. Not everything has a bad background.

[robust basin]

YES! EXACTLY!

[bronze oak]

stop is that guy going on and on about the personifications of world nature not all being white again

[velvet hearth]

Opinions can stem from differetnt
Places

[dire sand]

Also claims of accuracy into greek mythology rely on what we have left, when we have lost more sources than we have left

[bronze oak]

i blocked him

[robust basin]

Ah no wait... You are against the quoted text

Then no

[velvet hearth]

No one said white you donkey

Sigh here they go again

[wise ledge]

If we're going after non-greek looks, why not also go after accents, anachronisms and words like hell and paradise lol

[cerulean lake]

I think it is funny because also to place greek mythology as something that transcends ethnicity and their cultural millieau is really interesting because it is a very Western/American idea

But I do ascribe to the idea that greek mythology has been so pop culturefied & is no longer an extant religion so like. People make alternate interps of em. It's fine. Their greekness is not forgotten or systemically replaced, and deeply greek depictions & text continue to flourish.

[dire sand]

Why not go after melinoe as a character at all she barely exists in the myths we have lmao

[velvet hearth]

Because character design is the first thing I noticed/closest apple

[velvet hearth]

True

[velvet hearth]

I literally just did that

[dire sand]

Based on what tho

[idle cypress]

Sure, but then again why make a whole point out of it?

[velvet hearth]

.

[dire sand]

There is like close to zero sources of that character in myth

So based on what is she too pale

[radiant apex]

No no no. You have misunderstood my statement. I am saying that you, assuming you were raised in a Western society, were raised in a society where EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING is telling you that lighter colors are better, paler skin in general is good, smaller noses and pointier chins (on women) are more attractive. I'm not saying that you are specifically trying to be racist or whatever, but I'm asking you to examine the idea of "wow I'm really against the idea of these Greek gods having darker skin" and where that may be coming from and what systems may benefit from you thinking that way.

[idle cypress]

She's also a death related goddess

[dire sand]

Cause it seems to like you base that on air

[velvet hearth]

On what greeks looked like. The look she has is based on her myth description a bit

Like actually its like talking to a wall

[fluid mesa]

SOON™

[frank mulch]

can you all please cool it with the sexual talk and also be nice to each other and extend good faith

[velvet hearth]

I never said i wanted them to be paler god damn im talking about etnicity

[dire sand]

If I wanted to see greek gods looking like the remaining ancient greek era paintings I'd look at ancient greek era paintings I think

[velvet hearth]

“Systems benefit you” im literally tanned/light brown Mexican

[oak ivy]

being kind on the internet is one of the hardest things to do unfortunately 💔

[granite mauve]

I hate all of you!!!!!!! B

[cerulean lake]

To be honest, i think h2s gods look pretty Greek in a fantasy way

[velvet hearth]

Hard to when im being called a white supremacist

[buoyant matrix]

i love all of you!!!!!!! B

[velvet hearth]

True

[oak ivy]

awww I love pizza too 🥰

[final token]

TROBBIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[robust basin]

We tried. Some of us resorted to blocking... Sorry AD...

[frank mulch]

my two cents on the matter is that colorism is not always white supremacy it is way more nuanced than that

[velvet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/random-citizen-i-love-you-megamind-gif-14740323

[oak ivy]

wait what does the "B" mean?

[frank mulch]

B

[radiant apex]

there was a lot of talk earlier about Apollo and Athena in particular earlier and a lot of talk about how there was a desire to see them with "olive" skin instead of their current skin tones. This is what I am referencing btw, I'm not hallucinating you crashing in here and saying that dark skin is evil

[cerulean lake]

Batman

[robust basin]

Wrong discord

[final token]

damn

[buoyant matrix]

dunno the hate message had it so i put it there too

[granite mauve]

idk

[velvet hearth]

I mean I agree

[oak ivy]

I see.... B

[granite mauve]

Bees

[robust basin]

If by colourism you mean whitewashing the yeah. If not, I am unsure of your point

[frank mulch]

blocking is a good idea if you dont want to see someones messages or dont want to argue/escalate. which i am very much asking you not to do

[granite mauve]

10,000 bees are inside my house

[velvet hearth]

THANK YOU

Wait

[robust basin]

Damn Italian bugs

[radiant apex]

Okay, so we agree that you wanted to see Apollo and Athena with olive skin instead of dark skin :) That was my point. And my other point is that this desire for olive skin for those two is rooted in white supremacy and your desire doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's worth it to dissect these things so we be a part of a kinder world. That is all.

[robust basin]

Yeah... The problem is that it wasn't even a conversation...:(

[radiant apex]

/soapbox

[frank mulch]

but anyway regardless of your thoughts on the matter the art in the game is there to stay, it has already been drawn and designed. you can dislike it but that doesnt do anything

[velvet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-shut-up-joanne-nobody-wants-this-be-quiet-kristen-bell-gif-15266745267451505972

[frank mulch]

thats all then we can move on

[raven perch]

I mean it’s alright to talk about why you may dislike it right

[dire sand]

I think we should make the gods more ancient greek by making them get angry in a dialogue option where I say our feta cheese is more tasty than theirs

[raven perch]

I think all the gods should be speaking in ancient greek

[limpid oar]

wait i thought you were already on the lovers part what happened

[cerulean lake]

This all Greek to me

[radiant apex]

divorce

[dire sand]

Badly translated ancient greek

[frank mulch]

what if the world is made of pudding

[velvet hearth]

What if it does, what if it doesnt?!

[buoyant matrix]

holy that's an obscure reference

[cerulean lake]

Emily Wilson please translate hit Ancient Greek game Hades II (2025) by Supergiant Games

[oak ivy]

enemies to lovers to divorce speedrun World Record???

[frank mulch]

it does

i saw it in a dream

[radiant apex]

I play Mel Aspect Xinth I'm all about speed baby

[robust basin]

Valid. I am bored of this anglification on video games in the modern era...

[buoyant matrix]

i nearly broke the mel axe fear record today ☹️

[dire sand]

It's just a greek cheese? 😭

[buoyant matrix]

chronos decided to do the speeding up bug

[oak ivy]

thank god you didn't break it because otherwise who was going to fix it??

[robust basin]

Play Stray gods

[dire sand]

Can I do this there

[idle cypress]

Small steps with e33

[robust basin]

That is literally normal ancient greek

[dire sand]

Eh english is part french it's too close

[cerulean lake]

Dhdjdhfhhehf

[buoyant matrix]

fidel castro nearly started war with france over a mild cheese argument with andre voisin

[distant hull]

Man have people seen olives, those things are super dark

[idle cypress]

Truee, i need a Slavic hit

[frank mulch]

according to a friend e33 is kinda anglicized

[cerulean lake]

Disco elydoim ij spirit

[radiant apex]

what i'm SAYING

[frank mulch]

anyway its really good play it

[buoyant matrix]

"nearly starting a war" is of course an exaggeration but they had a bad argument

[velvet hearth]

Its GOTY

[buoyant matrix]

it did break though, chronos decided to bug out and inhale cocaine

[robust basin]

I'm gonna make a russian Italian game. Like the movie
"Adventures of Italians in Russia"

[frank mulch]

its GOTY

[robust basin]

Classic grandpa

[dire sand]

Soul burn leaving the e33 social media bubble and finding out people dont need e33 to be goty this badly is very funny

[cerulean lake]

I do like e33
I can see it being kinda anglicized
Of the top of my head i cant think of a mythology game that isnt that is a) mainstream b) made by devs outside easy asia
But thats kinda par for course
N also why dungeon delving on itch is so fun

[crude dragon]

Never forget the multiple attempts that the CIA made on Castro's life with poisoned milkshakes

[velvet hearth]

Silksongers when they need to do ANOTHER tedious runback and fight flying enemies that runaway in combat

[radiant apex]

"Let us see how you grapple with the vaunted Olympian Disco Dust, granddaughter!"

[dire sand]

Silksong and e33 can both win goty this has no impact on me

[robust basin]

Hilarious

[dire sand]

It just means the year had more good games

[buoyant matrix]

if you've seen the unrivaled chronos fight i can share the vid because p2.2 was absolutely psychotic

[cerulean lake]

Idk what games even came out this year but i have balatro on my 3ds

[dire sand]

Hell hades 2 can win it, donkey kong can win it for all I care

[radiant apex]

UNrivaled? tf

[velvet hearth]

Wtf

[radiant apex]

is there another tier past Rivals

[dire sand]

Balatro should just win it again actually

[robust basin]

Like if you made a movie of it people would say they are dunking on the us

[buoyant matrix]

unrivaled = without equal

as in, with the vow of rivals in effect

[frank mulch]

she loved it but she said some of the idioms are anglicized in french when there is already a counterpart

[crude dragon]

Oh, it gets even better because Fidel Castro was a huge fan of all things dairy. Milk, cheese, ice cream, you name it.

[cerulean lake]

The soon to be released balatro expansion dlc wins goty 2025

[idle cypress]

Nope, just Jimbo. All on his own.

[dire sand]

Agreed

[radiant apex]

ahhhh gotcha, i was about to be like DO I NEED TO LEARN ANOTHER CHRONOS FIGHT?? yeah i've whooped Grandpa's ass on rivals send me the link

[idle cypress]

Not so soon sadly🥲, the dev made a post about it

[buoyant matrix]

https://youtu.be/RdSomTwkqas?si=vFPO-VVRUIpp9mg-

[crude dragon]

No quicker way to be labeled a conspiracy theorist than listing off things that the CIA publicly admitted to doing at some point