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elden ring is rough to replay because collecting all of those crimson tear flasks and golden seeds every time is so tedious ๐
it feels like homework........
or those things in the DLC too
this is why sekiro remains my favorite, I don't gotta collect nothing basically
true true...
I've replayed it like 20+ times so I can get everything collected within like 30 mins. My average ER replay takes like 18-20 hours including dlc and all optional fights
that still sounds like a lot..
yeah I want like a 2-3 hour clear
I also don't bother collecting every single upgrade at the very start of the game and play it more linearly like the other souls games so the progression feels more natural than front loaded
I don't have everything memorized in Elden Ring.. I only played the one character the entire time haha
plus I don't need them healing upgrades when I don't plan on getting hit at all ๐ค
main thing that keeps me coming back to ER is boss and build variety. There's always something new for me to try in that game whereas in sekiro and ds3 I have already played with everything multiple times
true true!
That's why silksong is so ideal for me too. Build crafting is like my favorite thing in games
and of course Hades 2 as well
(and we're back on topic now!)
omg hades 2, we circled back!
haha yes
HAVE ANOTHER
Iโm really curious if Silksong will break the mould for me and Iโll actually do a second play-through
I didnโt for ER or hollow knight or nine sols or blasphemous or any other metroidvania Iโve played
I've ran it again in streamlined speedy runs, but nothing like 100%ish
I think doing EVERYTHING again would be a bit much
But I really wanna try playing other crests since I canโt really get used to switching on my main save (reaper crest downward slash my beloved)
I have 2 100% files and am going for the 3rd so I'm probably the wrong person to give an opinion here lmao
also daily reminder that reaper is the most mid crest in the game and is genuine noob bait. Please stop using it and get used to literally anything else. Thanks ๐
/j
I spent > 70 hrs before I got the first ending so I think itโs perfect for me 
if you want a downward slash that bad just use wanderer, witch or shaman
Is the v1 update gonna have achievements?
yes
That is electric
imo reaper legit makes the game harder lol. lowest dps crest with no cool gimmicks like architect or shaman. I think most of the disdain that people have for gauntlets is because of the fact that reaper is the most popular crest in the game and it is by FAR the worst performing crest on gauntlets. It's almost impressive in a way to beat the game while using nothing but reaper
whenever u get an achievement chronos will personally show up to ur door
So excited for 1.0!
So it's true Hades 2 is $30 digitally but somehow $50 physically
This is phrased rather aggressively but yes fraud is unfortunately right... ๐
the physical edition comes with some bonus goodies inside
Still not bad but it's the same thing ain't it so why more expensive when it's not limited-run
like there's a physical art compendium or smth like that
Aka beating the whole game without using up attack ๐
It's like being a strict parent. I'm being aggressive for your own good
is hade 2 v1.o, the final release version? As in no more early access?
-# โฉ Matt McMuscles (@mattmcmuscles.bsky.social)
We don't have plans for a full CE at this time though appreciate the interest! For what it's worth the physical edition of Hades II has some bonuses including a full-color Character Compendium booklet, downlod code for the original soundtrack, and reversible cover.
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I remember getting ori will of the wisps for the same digital price and I got a few pictures + the full soundtrack, same price btw
But at least it isn't $70
Correct!
yea still better than whatever nintendo's doing
$80 games then makes a $20 dlc that's ass
oo that's quite fast
Yeah SGG worked their magic pretty quickly this time
Hmmm feels very tempting. Do we know what the "reversible cover" looks like or is
They started it in 2021 Iโm pretty sure?
bananza dlc is so mid. crazy that its the same price as fking silksong
no idea about that i've never owned a physical edition tbh, tho i did preorder one cuz i want the goodies inside and will prob gift the game to a friend
The early access was launched like a year and a half ago
it comes w downloadable soundtrack too so big plus
Iโm talking about development
Well silksong is the exception here in many ways
That person was talking about early access time I'm pretty sure
I did get sonic frontiers physically and I got a metal disc case but it's basically useless as it was the switch edition, but still cool nonetheless, so perhaps it's something similar
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The point is that even if we had a year and a half of EA its been in the works for quite a while
it's prob a collector's thing then
naw bananza dlc is genuinely a scam lol. like the game is good but that dlc adds like no value to it
I heard it was pretty fun though
It will be hard waiting for physical edition cause it might be like totk or silksong where I'll wait too long and the spoilers will consume me
like if ur only interested in game then yea go digital, cuz making physical editions naturally will cost more
wonder how the storyline gonna reach an ending and tie up all the characters from hade 1 and 2 together
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I can play it because my sister thankfully bought it during early access so honestly I might just wait, and maybe even up till Christmas cause I'd probably beat it by then
Probably or hopefully. I would think so
mhm, they already post their music on bandcamp so i'll assume h2 soundtrack download code will apply to bandcamp
btw red what is ur pfp from?
Will Hades 2 have cross platform progress with Steam and Switch 2 kinda like Hades 1? Also, does the physical release come with anything other than the game?
Yes.
I don't think anything special is coming with the game. It is not a keycard, though.
knights of guinevere
been working on a wip digital fanart for it based on a sketch in my sketchbook
unfortunately college assignments
I thought it was katara..... ๐ญ
how tf
Idk why haha
That's not a good reaction ๐
how? she doesn't even have the hair loop thingies ๐ญ
it cuz the skin color /j
The style reminded me of avatar I guess....
not beating the racism allegations
I'll just leave ๐ญ
come to think of it, where is your pfp from?
sry lmao it's just super funny seeing it and going katara
no no it's okay haha
i do recommend watching the knights of guinevere pilot tho, it's really rad and dana terrace is one of the co creators
nowhere, it's just a random sketch lol
Every time I have a pfp with a character I like I either get too attached to it or start hating it quickly, so I decided for it to just be a random sketch!
its a pretty good sketch tbh. Is there a reason you haven't colored it?
Thank you!
And it's because it was mainly done for some lineart practice etc
I see
as a digital artist i'm dog at coloring so i just don't
or rather i still do but i hate how i color lolol
Fair lol, it is a huuuge rabbit hole to get into
my pfp is just ganondorf bc haha funny face
unless going for the 100% 30H achievement or something after a casual 100% take-your-time first playthrough
Why not have something more.... Personalised? Idk haha
sigh, I might do this...
i'm so enamored by nintendo in game design cuz they'll create the most incredible game with the most questionable choices
totk is one of the games of all time
i mean i still prefer botw's raw vibes but totk was still cool, i'm just annoyed by how they handled totk's story LOL
it like, 80% pretends botw doesn't exist lmao
I might eventually! I haven't been using discord or any social media until fairly recently so I never felt the need to actually have a profile
it's such a weird design choice
like there's a way to make totk work as a standalone game without making it literally a standalone game
idk at least totk had more uniquely designed dungeons
have you tried ||Wanderer||? It's very similar for the down-pogo, but a lot faster (like having Quick Slash charm in HK) and a bit less range
also stuff like ultrahand and your inventory and fuse are so janky
totk was a marvel from a game mechanics perspective but had such a mid story
Fraud already typed a whole ass essay about the wanderer earlier there. ๐
the inventory system has to be under some spaghetti code given how it interacts with the world lmaoo
why is fusing something to my arrow SO HARD
especially compared to some of the past zelda games like botw and TP
why do I need to drop something to fuse to my melee??????
Wanderer genshin impact?!
why is mass cooking still so hard?
Sorry.
hadn't scrolled yet
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I dont play the game anymore leave me alone ๐คง
I still can't decide what my favorite zelda game is. I love the story of Twilight princess and skyward, but the gameplay of totk is probably my favorite. Botw and wind waker I just love all around
Its too early
The original first zelda!!
awe hell naw
my favorite zelda is hollow knight
so did demon souls
Okay fair point haha
also deltarune chap 3 version of zelda is much more streamlined and polished compared to the 30 year old first game lol
wind waker is the only old game that still amazes me with how polished it is

like even its art style still looks so good to me despite being so graphically outdated
and the game is just fun to play
My favorite zelda game is hades 2 comping september 25th
mine is silksong where you play as zelda
melinoe x hornet otp
Iselda*?
Sigh Bapanada
It's this week
My brain immediately generated the sound
give me a scylla album and my life is yours
Can't wait to see "+300 new Scylla songs" in the patch notes
They are doing a worldwide Scylla tour after the release right
right now h2 is 15 dollars, would it change on 25th? should i buy now or wait ๐
15 what dollars ?
the game is at is normal price currently, while I don't think the base price will change on release there will probably be a discount
hi i doing a hades 2 fanart and i was wondering if anyone got a staff image or reference like the weapon
iirc the 3d model is shown in the aspect selection menu per weapon
it also slowly rotates i think
It's just them doing covers of literally every group
๐ถ It's raining men๐ต
(sailors sinking)
i most likely have regional pricing, its 15$ for me on steam
i really want them to change how the umbral flames omega attack works, the old one use to rapidly fire but theyโve changed it to a 3 hit combo now itโs boring ๐
Yeah but dashing interrupted your omega attacks and often times you couldn't afford to just stand there and fire them without dashing, the new one allows you to both dash around and fire omegas, which I like
3 days
Question will the price increase when the game comes out of early access?
Or any discounts planned on release?
the price will stay 30 dollars
Give it a year or 2 and Steam will prolly have 50% discount.
If you have weak currency issue you can always rent out Hades 2 in your local country store site
I meant is it us dollars, canadian... ?
I cannot wait that long ahaha ill just buy it on release
prolly 3rd world discount. The Game is also 15 dol in vietnam
ooh okay thanks
Hades 2 is literally an 12 hour shift with our currency.
oh i forgot there are different breeds of dollars. I meant usd
the country with the ugly Zeus ruling it.
Do we know if there will be reviews at launch?
Not like itโll sway my choice but I am curious what the rollout will look like
Glazing like crazy
def will be crazy amount of reviews i think
no you could dash and it would keep your omega attack constantly firing, it was so satisfying
now itโs just like all the other weapons with a 3 hit combo and lost what made it unique. i really want them to change it back it was the most interesting and satisfying weapon
No, it wouldn't, you'd have to start firing normal attacks for a while after a dash
is how it used to be
it was problematic because most builds just came down to magick drain with fine line and righteous pike and born gain
whyโs that a bad thing though?
nope you are wrong, look up any gameplay with it
weapon became boring to play very fast
it's just the same build over and over again, other options were objectively MUCH weaker
the current torches can run a high variety of builds that are strong and fun
yeah there are people that enjoyed the old ones but the current torch is just more popular
you're not alone in hating them now
Ok, you're right, I missremembred, dunno why they changed it then. I like the small omega attack it currently has though.
yeah but the only way they balanced that (what your saying they were basically too OP) was just to make the weapons more similar to all the other weapons. instead of building upon them to balance them they just removed what made them unique
idk i think they're still very unique in playstyle
surely more variety in how the weapons play is a better thing?
they might be but itโs definately less so
Just made it to the third realm for the first time and how DARE they make me fight ||Cerberus||
Things just got personal Kronos
why would you play the game for the first time less than a week before 1.0 release
why wouldnโt you just wait
if you go further you will despair even more regarding him ๐
This isnโt my first time playing, itโs my first time getting this far in
No no no no you canโt do this to me
well im not doing it EA is doing it ๐ but if you need the time until thursday you might not despair that much
chronos is very well capable of doing this to you
yet another reason to want to "vanquish" him 
But it did solve a lot of wonky interactions. And secret info: You can still get a scenario where the torches just repeatedly omega attack
Don't take any attack speed ups, take Clean Candle, Sorceress and Racing Thoughts
(And then question why you thought cardio gain was a good idea)
Heavens wrath
wait whaaaaaaat
so itโs like it used to be?
even faster
only if you take those three upgrades
since you start firing omegas after one normal
welp that kinda limits which builds i can do then if i want to use that weapon the way i want to even smaller
still i will give it a try
I mean, cadencing one normal and one omega is still pretty good
you don't have that 3-5 shots of normals before you get to the good stuff like you used to
so it's more flexible
daiyu used it for his 62 fear mel flames run. took phial into ephyra and reset until hermes gave him common racing thoughts in c2 and made it heroic with the city fountain
Hi
hello
how much did the game change since EA started?
ye it's why i dropped attacks entirely lolol
nearly all enemies and boons were readjusted
+2 regions
+1 weapon(and all of its aspects
+6 aspects, one for each weapon
extensive reworks to the gathering system
regular balance updates
+3 familiars
few equivalent of pact of punishment additions/reworks
+3 gods with boons
do we know what time the update is dropping?
<t:1758816000:f> (shows local time)
3?
i guess you are counting athena and dio which sure technically
It's so convenient that the update drops right after work for me
All VoR variant of bosses (thought it would be worth mentionning by itself), expanded system for hexes (godsent), iirc all of the og gods recieved 2-3 extra boons at some point
Drops literally as I start work, which is annoying.
sorry boss i got the surface curse
At least I have Friday off, so I can do a bunch then.
Easy, just finish off the boss and get to playing
all gods recieved reworks to boons but the boon count is the exact same, file it under regular balance
Gonna tell your boss you lied
yeah update time randomly aligning with my schedule was great
I'm just worried about how long it'll take to download ๐
there seems to be a super typhoon on where i live, and also protests close to where i live as well! and just when the game is days close
How did you do that?
Thank you

Happy launch week guys
I mean its just text for the story
(that we know of ๐ )
Imagine if you read the 1.0 patch notes and all the way down : ||a third road has opened...||
- the battlepass
|| CONTEST OF CHAMPIONS||
online ranked pvp
about to reach new levels of dogwater not seen since darkest dungeon 1pvp
Zagreus new playable character incl. All of H1 weapons, new route (House of Hades escape), new character romances, new trio boons
Hades I in Hades II
already being worked on as a mod, for the gameplay anyway. play as mel through h1
- Arcana card mini game in the taverna with collectibles throughout the H2 seasona
wait why is icarus in my tent
:)
there's way more than text
there will be a ton of models and voice lines
i wont even describe what just happened.
audio doesn't weight that much compared to visual assets, as far as I'm aware there aren't THAT many models that aren't already in the game (e.g Zag is technically already present)
you don't need to 
we might have a lot of sprites, but considering the art style and the current size of the game I assume it's not gonna weight a lot either
nyx, the fates, chiron, all the gods in the fotress
the installation time will take way longer than the download for most people
wanderer and ||evolved|| hunter are the two I'm thinking about switching to, I like using them it's just when I hit a platforming section and I go to do a pogo and totally whiff I just end up going back to my default
Hey folks, does anyone know if the music in the launch trailer can be heard/listened somewhere, what's the title?
it's on youtube, titled "olympus aflame"
I'm curious how much faster it is, you get +6% from crits but idk what the damage bonus is from the attack speed (it also means more silk and it makes it easier to parry which is probably harder to factor in)
oh thanks, that's it.
your math is off sis
3 days 3 hours 6 minutes
petition for !Pronto command that prints the time till release
I've run 115 nights in H2 Early Access... and was wondering if it's best to start over for v1.0, or continue. What is everyone else doing?
I advocate for restarting if your EA journy started like a year ago
I'm keeping my current save because upgrading everything again is gonna take too long
about how long are we expecting a "full" clear of the story to take
if you started anywhere recently, like say unseen update and still have the initial dialogues fresh in your mind then don't restart.
if you don't care for grinding, don't restart
If you think you have a good enough grasp of the plot and don't want to the refresher of the minor plot beats and only care about the major plot beats you already know about don't restart
5 runs underworld 5 runs surface?
Yeah i have been thinking about that, but it would really be too much
entirely depends on if entropy is a real resource and how we obtain it, but its likely a fake resource since its been removed from everywhere else it was used throughout EA
I would refund
if they just remove it, it'll probably be 10 runs
5/5 split, though typhon needs both zsand and void lens
so probably like 3/2 split for typhon
You couldn't even if you could. The screen was black wasn't it?
that hasn't stopped AO3 writers
Never
H1 was 8 runs if I remember correctly so in the least we can expect 8+8, but maybe that would be boring.
you remember wrong
hades 1 was 10 afaik
it was 10 but the 10th dad let you skip him so debatably 9.5
Good. Art must never die
9 full runs and a last one where hades is free
Still 10 runs then
which is prob not gonna happen here lmao
Well 20 runs then
which is why i think it'll be split between the two runs to not overinflate
yeah
maybe a midpoint like 6/6 or 8/8 but i dont think it'll be like 20 runs just to get the incantations
hi yall :)
just started playing hades 2 today after getting addicted to hades 1 a couple days ago XD
i cannot for the life of me beat the sirens and Scylla
that said i think 20 isnt entirely out of the realm of possibility
Yeah, but 10+10 is more realistic than 5+5
hi friend, this channel is open spoilers so if you don't want to be spoiled i'd reccomend going to #h2-for-new-players and using spoiler tags.
try to focus on the drums siren (the one that isnt jetty) first, it works for me
10 runs in total is bs
i could hear them.
Been there my friend. The songs were too catchy for me to concentrate at first. I eventually got used to their attack patterns though. Helps that I refused to git gud and enabled god mode from the get go lol
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iit gets worse :)
but yeah general advice for the siren fight is to rush the drummer and try to hit as many of them at once, since they all share a hp bar. AOE abilities and stuff like hitch can work really well.
Well, since pizza recommended I will advise you to go and search AO3 fanfics about it to have more explicit renderings of the acts
AAAAAAAAAAA
It will happen, but in the beginning it is hard
ty for the heads up <3
im someone who doesnt care for spoilers tho so its all g
i dont mind
i did NOT recommend any of that
Too late
nah some of these spoilers are mega spicy bro you should mind
we (yes you specifically) cosigned that
So much cheese with pasta should be illegal
||so much|| cheese ||with pasta|| should be illegal
oh yeah ive been thinking about it probably would be better to focus on the sirens first๐ซก
thanks yall :D
I don't want to imagine fanfics with Arachne... But I suppose you would be happy...๐ข
did you see the meme i made yesterday
fr god mode is my safety net ๐ญ
i struggled so hard in the first game as soon as i saw it in the second im like ":D yes"
??? they do NOT share an hp bar
share an overall hp bar
I am scared.๐ญ I will try to search for it
they have individual hp threshholds but the hp bar above is shared so hitting them all at once is good
question
is the surface finished? is it just the underworld that is getting finished with the full release?
nothing is finished
apologies if its a dumb question
gameplay wise the game is like 99% done
Story wise the game ends after both final bosses
You're good. Both the surface and underworld lack an ending as of yet.
but you don't get any plot that results from it
right, right
Oh gods the day approaches
think i will play to get goodies then so i cna just launch into the plot stuff with the full release in like what 3 days?
Oh god... (Btw I couldn't find it)
Reeling
good choice actually
for the record all final boss resources are nuked at 1,0
so you literally can't launch into plot stuff
So you enjoy the manga "so I am a spider, so what?"
you will have to rebeat the bosses again for another 5-10 times each depending on how many resources are required
the silly hidden room after typhon:
you want to beat hypnos?
fair enough we all need a stress ball
mine is named @oak ivy
ayo
can i start shipping pronto and lilac
no
or is that immoral with real people
God it took me so much time to understand that to get Charon I needed to take middle shop and I never took it...๐คฆโโ๏ธ
actually yes cause it will make lilac angy which is funny
They are like brother and sister
by that i mean. get like upgrades and stuff for weapons
are we expecting keepsakes for zag and persephone
woah like zag and thanatos
based on the inventory layout
We are expecting MAYBE one of those
hypnos, hades and the fates
2/3 of the remaining keepsakes are spoken for
and then by launch into plot stuff i mean ive beat chronos 3 times so im getting pretty good at it
zag will have 0 dialogue in 1.0
and its questionable if we will even fill out the 3rd slot
but the first two of hades/hypnos is like 99% likely
could be a fakeout but gameplay already supports their gifting just we get rejected
similar to hades 1 gifting dad but not getting it until post story
surely we're getting zag and persephone over hypnos
We have a name for that.
RPF.
And yes that's bad... (99% of the time)
Hypnos is likely integral to the story, and already has gifting logic set up ingame
hes also literally in the crossroads
its not that i dont love hypnos and that i dont think hes important to the story
but missing out on the family keepsakes would be weird
Thanos isn't the son of Hades nor the son of Persephone
Persephone is also like the lowest of the lowest likely keepsake givers
since her keepsake from h1 was made into her skull
She had a skull in H1?

The champions may be inside Hypnos brain
tbf none of the h1 characters use the same keepsake in h2
It was a Pomegranate blossom smh
i mean the god keepskaes are basically the same just now with a new rarify system
inb4 this is the hidden boss fight
oh you mean mechanics-wise
gotcha
still, they could easily just give her smth else
tfw u go back to h1 and try and right click a boon to increase rarity
That would be boring...
I cant be normal anymore after the rarify system
anyway the likely 3rd keepsake(if we get one) is almost assuredly one of these 4
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Persephone. Least likely due to her keepsake given to her aspect, could get something else but other characters have more story priority over her
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Zag. Protag from h1 extreme fan service being the last keepsake fits for almost all games bringing back something from the previous MC
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The fates. Extreme story relevance even as far back as EA launch with the only uncompletable fated list. Likely integral to the story and is an arcana card.
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Nyx. You would think she isn't that relevant, but mel follows the will of night and guess what nyx is. Thats right, night.
changing how god keepsakes work was the best h1 to h2 change by far
Of course they could just flip the board and expand the keepsake cabinet.... again
but that has logic against it by bringing EVEN MORE untested gameplay elements into the game at 1.0
page two baybeeeeeeee
only the fates
it's on the bingo board. it WILL happen
given the manner in which we get keepsakes, i'm not sure the fates will have one since that would mean us giving them nectar. i can absolutely see them being a cutscene presence, but an npc we can give gifts to? pressing x to doubt.
a nyx keepsake would be neat
persephone was a cutscene presence until she wasn't
This is also an important factor to think about, cause how would we keep visiting them
and im sure they could write an interesting dynamic between her and meli
Which is why fates are 3rd on my least likely list
did you write these in order of increasing likelihood on purpose
bro imagine a nyx keepsake that just says "you have +2 fear this night" and max fear is now 69 and you have one less effective keepsake ๐ค
if they were to do a zag keepsake it would probably be bloodstone I would guess
it makes narrative sense for persephone to move in and become a persistent npc becausee reuniting with her is zag's explicit goal. i can't see the fates deciding to chill at the crossroads, they have better things to do.
I'd say it's vastly more likely to be Nyx, personally, she's just so critical to like
a bunch of characters' stories
I agree she has story relevance, but i only see her being giftable in a post underworld route at the mirror maybe
Zag basically only matters to Mel and even then it's unclear what he offers narratively that Hades doesn't
which is the only reason i have her at =
obviously sgg can still throw a curveball at us but still
I used to have her alongside persy until i think you went over the whole will of night and i went oohhhh tha makes sense
oh yeah Nyx does have voice lines in
nyx keepsake turns all enemies invisible ๐ฅ
So now i can justify both nyx and zag
what if chiron is an npc and HE gives us a keepsake huh how about that
biggest curveball ever
chiron finally showing up would be funny
we open up the door to zags room and chiron is just chilling there
I don't think it's gonna happen but it would be funny
"is rent due already?"
idk abt that
chiron is the only arcana character that hasn't been shown in either h1 or h2 i think
b-b-but i put it on the board ๐ฅบ
something something game theory
and i have zag on MY board
only one of us can win
meli has to learn the value of humanity, something zag already knows arguably way more than any other god in 2's roster
Yeah but something he knows way less about than than Dora
your board is cringe, mine is based, it's that simple
3 more days 
2 different flavors of the same thing i feel
3 days 2 hours 23 minutes
bc clearly dora hasnt been hitting meli's head hard enough
whats a hidden helix lol
like there's a tonne of characters that can do that and do do that - it's brought up by Dora, Nemesis, Prometheus, Dionysus, Arachne and even Eris
hammer to add in the 3rd special is blacklisted on eos
Zagreus being The One Guy Who Can Talk About It would feel kinda risible given how many other characters that Mel knows and trusts better have waxed philosophical on the topic
and also he was never mortal while a number of those characters were
i never said he would be the one guy talking about it
but meli still has a big god complex even after meeting all of the characters you listed
- like
mel doesn't need prompting she's already there verbally throwing hands with Athena over Arachne's curse
also since hades family tree is different from the original greek myth is zag and meli demigods since demeter got with a random farmer
no
why not
zag was barely considered a god by his own father and one of his closest connections was achilles
because they were born gods idk how else to explain this
persephone is also a god
then he helped sisyphus, eurydice, orpheus, patroclus
i want nyx to not be a giftable character with dialog because she's dead to me (she left us her will)
the real feature we need in 1.0 is those start of run cutscenes you would sometimes get in h1
she already has dialogue in the game 
you're SO right
where hades would give a small speech with a word in red in front of him
except this time itโs hecate
that doesn't count ๐
out of the chars you listed dio is maybe the closest example since hes also a god who knows abt this already
why not chronos taunting mel or something
(ugh why did that turn into an emoji)
could be either
but hes playing a fool
but he already does that sometimes when you die or after erebus
she has multiple lines tho 
in two different unique instances
- flashback
- testament
isnt it like 3 lines ๐
yeah but like, you don't really talk to her
as mel
i miss asterius man
go back to sleep
he doesn't miss you
i donโt know if ive ever seen this mentioned in the feedback channel before
did he tell you that
although it would probably not fit into the game as well
didnt know his aim improved since 1
I miss that one shade during the 3rd bossfight
guess he doesnt hit pillars anymore
It's literally in the game though!
hes there when u defeat cerberus lol
he's in the game
WIAT WHAT
I miss the adamant rail..
well its in the game
yeah you better hop into #h2-for-new-players boi
i feedbacked it but i yap too much and cant figure out the keywords
you know what I mean ๐
to find it in my history
Ive played enough i just aint know abot my homeboy
Smh these fake fans
(/j)
whenever you defeat cerb he's standing next to the exit
:0
only after the 1st clear i think?
you just ignored your homeboy for the past bunch of cerb runs?
talk with him a few times and ||you can compel him to come to the crossroads||
You can help him get to the crossroads too, he'll be next to skelly
nvm it might be bc they added it later into the EA development
mel (and zag) talk/s to homer yet he's not a character that shows up with a portrait and everything
thats crazy and you call yourself a friend
well hes Zagreus homeboys not melenoes and uhh
i like suck at noticing things
literally red shade while you kept running past him to chronos
where will zag be in 1.0 i wonder that
dead
nah
dead for sure
come on no
didn't you see the leak? /s
meli sees him in the distance for the first time
he slips on a banana and cracks his head
HypnosWakesUpAndHeAndMelKillChronosSaveThanatosBuryZagreusGetMarriedAndLiveHappilyEverAfter01
confirms it /s
sorry dnino
what leak
nah, Zag made the pact of punishment cry and got isekai'd by chronos as a result
every run u save 1 person from the house then the final one mel and zag beat up chronos trust
you're gonna see corpsegreus
holy cinema
ooh that actually sounds good
will i do 60 fear uw before september 25 ๐
no
i did 62 before skong
i dont think its gonna be exactly this but its nice
it might make things a bit less cathartic on meli's end
i wonder how the game would feel if there was a mod to put zag/mel and their weapons and boons in each otherโs games
meli kicking her father's ass with a lvl 87 zeus attack boon
mirage shot circe go crazy
maybe i'll beat 32 fear... one day
today
if u dont beat it before 25 u die and explode
wait what
true
that wasent in teh early access terms
it is now
they added it a couple minutes ago
smh should have read the fine print
Hey, is anyone else seeing vsync issues
common vsync L
damn
32 fear isnt too bad
hold up, that ain't Hades 1-
My monitor is 100hz, gpu 9060xt 16gb, vsync off still limits to 200fps, and strangely with amd overlay its exactly 100fps regardless of vsync
underworld is basically free
that looks really cool. i wonder how mel's power level compares to zag's.
last time I tried 32 fear was like 100 hum hours ago
coughing baby (zag) vs magick bomb
hes not weak but meli is crazy strong
probably yeah but h1 would also have been designed around zag's higher dash spam so i wonder if mel will have a harder time avoiding damage as a result
it probably comes down to if multiple dashes or a h2 cast is better
we've reached peak
now it's only downhill
I am playing hades 2 after a long time, totally skipped the current update, I did not have this vsync issue before
i wonder how h1 2d sprite system even works with character stuff in h2
like theres a way to implement for sure but hm
Hi, Does anyone know if the trophies you've already earned in your save will be unlocked on the 25th 1.0?
Or will you have to do it all over again?
Some trophies will carry over, some will not, and some are not unlockable yet.
The trophies that will be auto completed are the ones where you can only do them once. The trophies that will not are the ones where you can do them more than once (such as clearing a zone or finishing a run).
Idk tbh, I play with vsync 165 fps. Flawless for me.
If I go higher in frames. Iframes and input lag is probably gonna be better
Is it worth playing now? Or should I wait for 1.0?
I feel like it would probably be better to wait for 1.0. It comes out in 3 days. And the ending moment of a run is not there yet.
at this point you may as well wait yeah
that way you actually get the plot payoff for your first win
Ok, I said it because I don't know what to do until the 25th, because if I start another game I'll leave it half-finished xD
But I guess I'll wait haha
Thx
im in a similar boat but thats what mindless online games are for
so clearly scylla rival is getting a huge nerf in 1.0 riiight
its on my bingo so i hope so
somehow she has escaped nerfs
well she got one i guess
ยท Unrivaled Scylla: the guest artist fires fewer projectiles than before
didn't do much
I struggle more on Hecate rivals then Scylla idk y
rivals scylla did more mental damage to me than any other boss during my 58f uw grind ๐ข
Someone pls for the love of god save me
even without the story conclusion, the simple fact that she singlehandedly fought against both Chronos and Typhon at once, countered the curse etc makes her one of the strongest being in the Hades-verse
eh
chronos is bloodline abilities, its like saying the person who is immune to cold is stronger than demeter just cause demeter can't beat them
typhon is debatable but hes weakened from fighting the olympians beforehand and keeps on crawling up each night by the time you get there.
still impressive though
melinoe can stop time against chronos, she wins
what class is this for
advanced physics or math
just @grok when you need an answer
thats applied math for engineering probably
thats fine
why grok out of all ais to use for math
cause its funny
gronk
Your monitor is limited to 100hz, you can't get higher regardless.
Mechanics of materials
Aka solid Mechanics
im always right
Play Supay with Rivals Scylla for the ultimate Vampire Survivors experience
โ
Auto-attack
โ
Not having an idea what's happening on screen with so many projectiles
omgggg hades hype gamers
3 more days of Medea being better than it ever has been, enjoy it
Sooooo excited for the release
erm arckshoually I've played against UR scylla for a while and i always have a clear idea what's happening โ๏ธ๐ค
oh my god your right
I mean, I know what is happening. A freaking mess, that's what's happening ๐
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"better than its been so far"
reminder that they can fix this bug with a buff https://imgur.com/6VZXDN9
u are going to start a new save? or will continue the early acess one
both

medea is being nerfed?
I'm continuing
officially who knows
no, just the cast bug getting fixed
but its been the strongest aspect in the game since like patch 2 when they fixed the bugs
truege
at minimum the bug is prob getting fixed
Wait, I am confused, what bug?
Some people is just thriving in life, damn
Is there a way to post artwork
In #fan-works
Post it in a different server, copy image link and paste here
Or go to fan works idk
due to a bug specifically with smolder and storm ring medeas damage bonus applies to them too
its not technically a medea bug, but medea benefits from it the most
those boons call for weaponsets on their damage or something
the bug i talked about here is just a text bug https://imgur.com/6VZXDN9
specialS
do we know if additions in 1.0 will make continuing early access save reasonable in terms of story continuity, or there will be new stuff from the start? I'm just so torn on whether to continue playing, or just procrastinate for 3 days and then start fresh
Officially we don't know
Historically nothing has been outright gated story wise, it will just play out of order for you
such as when they added in dialogue for stuff you did like 60 runs ago
but it play as if you just did the thing its talking about
damn, I might just go back and knock out some stuff that's left in first game. Just to get a fix
Obviously you have no understanding, so please refrain from comments
I will say that it will make for a more organic story telling experience to actually get the plot on your FIRST WIN of the run with natural reactions to your win that you got 200 runs ago, instead of your like 100th win where only a few dialogues trigger
Might be worth pairing (blue tool spoiler) ||Longclaw|| with ||Wanderer|| if you're not quite vibing with regular ||Wanderer|| but like a regular down-pogo.
As for the speed, it's basically Quickslash from HK1, very fast compared to ||Reaper||, without even involving ||dash|| nail cooldown reset type stuff.
but ultimately you will hear almost everything on your save file just you might've heard some of the dialouge a long time ago and don't remember since it doesn't play twice leading to you feeling slightly underwhelmed
I'm not that far into h2 I think. I've finished underworld successfully like 3 times, and just go the thing to allow me to go up. So I might just leave it be till release and restart. Because as much as I love gameplay in hades what I always look forward to is more story and character interactions
Oh, also iirc the ||Magnetite Dice|| can boost the ||crit chance|| but I forget how much
i deleted my save files yesterday, planning to start a new game 
yeah the thing that is most anti-restart is the grind
if you don't have much unlocked or progress restarting doesn't do much to hurt you
isn't that literally what vysnc does
so far I didn't grind. Things just kind of unlock organically. But if it's similar to h1 the further you go the more of it there will be
Vsync matches the game to your monitor, which if you are going above it causes screen tearing.
Vsync when off, has nothing to do with monitor refresh rates
I mean, with a 100hz refresh rate monitor you won't see more than 100 frames. But, having more fps than refresh rate will present a more recent frame when possible, still having a benefit
vsync not that important these days because freesync exists
Irrelevant comment
If anyone is typing in respone to my query, my humble request "please read what I asked originally, again & thoroughly this time"
with that attitude, who cares
Before answering
death to chronos.
long live chronos ๐ฅ
wtf
I'm a hater
5 more nightmare until i have everythign in the game maxed out...
long live theseus!!! ๐
nah that's a bit too far there
yeah you're right.. ๐
let's stay civil in this chat
My monitor is 100hz, gpu 9060xt 16gb, vsync off still limits to 200fps, and strangely with amd overlay its exactly 100fps regardless of vsync
Where does it say "vsync is on" in my question
All those quick to jump, please enlighten me
probably in the same place it is for every other person who accidentally misses something obvious like maybe it being enabled in their nvidia control panel or not actually toggling it off ingame. Either way don't really care to help with how aggressive you are good luck
I am precise, not aggressive, never used strong words, only politely refuted those who commented without properly understanding question
If you can't give any positive reply, then just don't
What is aggressive in this
Don't try to phrase your mistake with understanding clearly written words onto some one as their aggressiveness
Pronto calling someone else aggressive????? 
chill bro, they were just trying to help. You are the one who starting bashing others for not understanding what you mean. There's more polite ways to go about clarifying what you're saying
Are ya having trouble defeating Rival Chronos without Death Defiance or broken builds??? I always take 400+ damage from him๐ญ (without strength)
Yep that's normal, it's probably the hardest rivals fight
he is very tough and it takes a bit to get used to him
How do you expect to achieve higher FPS if your monitor's maximum display rate is 100Hz?
If they did not see "regardless of vsync" and start talking about vsync being on, and then when I merely state their misunderstanding, how is it bashing (correcting is bashing nowadays ?)
Yeah, Rival Chronosโs 3rd phase especially can be rough.
like I said, there's more polite ways of correcting someone
I did clear Rival Chronos while not losing a single Death Defiances, probably once, out of 15 or so clears.
Then please enlighten me of a more sophisticated sentence, i will gladly retype all in that way
Though at the same time, this is at 50+ Fear, and idk if thatโs the context you are talking about with Unrivalled Grandpa
man I'm gonna be so rusty when I play this game again
rivals grandpa gonna kick my ass fo sho
Please understand monitor rr first. Doesn't matter if your game runs 200fps if you can only see 100.
Do you even know what vsync off means ?
you just coming back in raw at high fears?
ill turn off all the fear except hordes frenzy and rivals
1.0 tomorrow
yeah I'll do the same probably. Though probably will go for timer instead of hordes
well first of all "please enlighten me" is one of the most passive aggressive ways you can ask for help... like unironically ๐ญ
"Obviously you have no understanding, so please refrain from comments" idk man, if this statement doesn't sound aggressive to you, then I dont know what to say
yeah you're being overly "formal"? it comes across as condescending af
But didn't you say your monitor is 100hz? Are you expecting vsync off to allow you to achieve 200fps?
It is not aggressive, it is just plain truth, stated in polite words
ok ๐
i throwed up
that is one of the most arrogant sentences you could say ๐ญ
did you learn from pirate software??
tf kind of refresh rate is 100hz
doing one last funrun before 1.0
should I equip antler in tart
Well what can I say, they say that "truth hurts"
So I guess there's some truth in that
im glad you managed to resolve the vsync issue, lets move on
2% to 2.1% Iโm pretty sure
I really like the idea of getting a multihit boost though
time for some intense video gaming
hades 2 countdown bot where?
<t:1758816000:F>
It not completely resolved, just a temporary workaround
"Vsync always off" globally
From combination of globally "off, unless application specifies" & off in application
is circe bugged or something Iโm trying to get Anubis staff and I havenโt seen circe in over 15 runs
uh oh
rng
i took two (2) hits and am at 12hp
then it's good that a workaround was found, at least!
this might be a dumb question, but since when does Hades 2 need all that optimization to run smoothly?
hades offered unseen ire. winner
Someone give him some poms.
The funny thing is this strange behaviour is only with Hades 2 (as far as I have seen/tested today) Sifu works fine
So should not be driver issue
Or could be / I don't know
i dont own that game so i cant test it. i tend to cap my stuff at 60 or 120 at most
get them today its the jewish new year
It is smooth regardless of the issue as even when affected I still get at the very least 100fps & 200fps when partially affected & 350 up when vsync globally off
easy win with 6hp left not even worried
Does anyone know what time the game drops and what timezone?
so then what's the problem here? 100fps sounds good enough, no?
unless the game is stuttering
<t:1758816000:F>
this is localized to your time
My gpu in those settings in question should easily give more than 350fps
And also auto translated, interesting ๐ค
If it doesnโt thatโs a skull issue
Oh i seeee thank you!
Yeah that was throwing me off ๐
I was like when did pronto start speaking czech
im in your walls
Why do you need so many frames, donโt our eyes already struggle just to see above 60 frames
Was surprised they know what timezone I'm from
He is confused about what he can run and what he can see.
but didn't you say your monitor is 100Hz? It can only display a max of 100 fps afaik
If grading the issue on a scale
Sure it is just an issue and not a problem per say
But it is still strange & hence a bit distracting
like it doesn't matter if the game runs at 200 or 300 fps, you can only see 100 fps
Oh man, how many times did I already say, that when vsync is off (which I have set to off)
Monitor refresh rate has no hold on fps rendered
lul
does it not? I thought that's literally what refresh rate meant?
Your monitor refresh rate can only render 100 fps.
doesn't vsync force match monitor fps
Even on a 60hz monitor, we can render (although not display) as much frames as gpu can render
That's exactly the purpose of vsync. no tearing.
then why would you want to turn vsync off?
To render as much frames as I can get, for lower latencies
I see
Only when vsync is ON
When it is off, fps is uncapped (limited only by gpu strength mostly, later by cpu)
How do you get staff of Anubis?? I have all the requirements but circe doesnโt say any special dialogue
Whatever works for you. You asked for help, but it seems like you already have all the answers.
Have all 6 weapons
Have all 3 aspects of staff
Have at least 1 staff at level 5
Wiki didnโt mention having all 3 staffs๐ how do I get staff of circe
buy it?
all regular aspects are unlocked just by doing the incantation
unless that changed, you just need the resources to buy it
Itโs not there
are you actually opening the pool
First, I did not exactly ask for help
I asked if any one else was seeing the same issue
And if yes, any insights, as to what might be causing this
or are you just opening the staff menu
I only see Melinoe and momus at the pool
Yes

I have before
hm so circe just straight up doesn't show in the aspect unlock screen
Iโm very confused on what Iโm missing๐ญ
}, GameStateRequirements = { { PathTrue = { "GameState", "WorldUpgrades", "WorldUpgradeWeaponUpgradeSystem" }, }, { Path = { "GameState", "FamiliarsUnlocked" }, HasAny = { "FrogFamiliar", "RavenFamiliar", "CatFamiliar", "HoundFamiliar", "PolecatFamiliar" }
Get all 5 familiars
how do I get a familiar
give them candy and steal them in your van
wait its not all 5
its just get ANY familiar i misread
it's HasAny (also prob shouldn't be directly sharing code) so should be at least 1 familiar, not all
which yeah makes sense the weapon is about familiars
And only when people who did not know what vsync off means & did not see the same issue as me & neither read my post properly, started commenting, did I say "please refrain from comments"
No hard feelings there
eventually hecate tells you to get a friend and you can recruit frinos in your room
best frog
technically you can ignore frinos and get toula or raki though
You've been running without any familiars this whole time???? omg
I thought the game forces you into getting one
i'll do a 62 without a pet just for u
I never knew they existed
yeah that's what I'm surprised by
it takes multiple runs to get them
its not some innate feature
I saw โgive skull to a beastโ most my time playing but i didnโt know what it meant๐ญ
wait wot 
yeah bro go to your room and feed the frog
bro hasn't even been petting frinos for good luck i bet
๐ญ
straight to jail
I assumed that was just a decoration like the frogs next to the pond in the town area
๐
LMFAO bro got called a set piece
Frinos is no mere decoration
naaaah I can't tolerate frinos slander
frinos is a paid actor
Since no one else amongst those active right now, has seen the issue that I am seeing
I will try an OS reset & see if the issue repeats or not
(Have already tried gpu driver reinstall, to no avail)
Ahhhhh-
sent by poseidon as a ruse
Frinos is baby
Y e s
??? frinos is the second oldest being in existence, slightly younger than chaos
me trying to explain why i should be allowed to kill icarus for giving me hordes 10
where you guys getting Frinos lore from
B a b y
noooo don't kill him I love him ๐ฅบ
I know he's trying to "help" but I REALLY would've prefer he doesn't ๐ซถ
doesn't that mean that Chaos is the biggest baby of them all??
for Meli of course!
babality frinos
Hmmm nice desk lamp
I mean, they were not aware of the concept of lying so... Maybe?
Cerb 
if I had a dollar for every meme pronto made... I'd maybe be able to afford Hades 2 by now??
MY money
you're my alt, your money is my money!!
๐

๐
less than 3 days
2 days 23 hours 42 minutes
Did Frinos win the rains from a god?
Wow
i should upload my bug backlog soon ish
HE IS GETTING PAID???
WE ARE HERE EATING DIRT AND HE IS AN EFFIN MERCENARY????
it takes a lot of work to serve as hecate cockblocker
we know mods aren't watching because this message is still up
HAHA
lmaooooo
I guess not
hahahahahahhahahahahahahah
cockblocker
yeah prob just checks for the word itself
Bukawk ๐
that was so funny omg ๐ญ
ASS
Lmfao
dyno to meow
Dyno Iโll kill you
Chaos
Hello all ! What can we exept of 1.0 realease ? thx for answer
Officially, only the story.
and any balance updates that they made in the past 3 months to aspects boons etc
Some keepsakes + a secret boss
Unofficially with evidence
- A secret encounter/fight from the achievements they accidentally uploaded
- 2 keepsakes from hades and hypnos from ingame content we currently have for gifting them
More Frinos kisses
we're hoping for a secret boss... it's not guaranteed though..
:)
:|
Thx you !
def charon as secret boss again or artemis
C'mon... Are we really not expecting it? Also even if they don't give us Charon 2 we still have the champions achievement
did someone say zag secret boss?
Oh god... Artemis
Iโll be so mad
Possessed Zag would be so op
Nooooo please
Circe secret boss, pretty please
zag + Hades duo up
we just making up powers for chronos atpp
Please donโt do this to me I haaate possessed Zag theory
omg I cant wait to meet Zagreus!!! and I can't wait for him to be BOTH playable AND a secret bossfight!!! I can't wait for him to take over the protagonist role in the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But truthfully speaking even if that is so cool, how is it even a challenge for a witch that defeated the father of all monsters and time itself?
killing myself
Actually that would be cool and scary
zag isn't possessed he just wants to fight mel because that's what gods do or something
Because men are inherently more powerful havenโt you heard /s
Infernal arms in hades 2 confirmed??????
๐ฅฐ ๐ซ
Wait until bro sees Eris
meirl
Lol... Reddit took over Lilac
but no hearts around my face
this is a worse insult than anything pronto's said to me..... ๐
Something something Nemesis blade something something Eris rail
That is what Olympians do. We chtonic gods are better
Athena also has a pretty interesting shield
what would you have instead of hearts?
Wow.. I finally won at something!
damn i need to step up my game
but ill get banned..........
You need to learn from the British
so many skulls in the chat right now ๐
โ ๏ธ
Hey! My comment was nice!
happy to volunteer some british insults
One-piece confirmed in Hades 2!
Is your nickname one of them? ||/jk ๐ญ||
Lay it on us.
what is depression as a emoji
Chronos keep sake
or hunger
I think I took so many of his pieces that I can assemble a keepsake from it
DYNO
Nuked
lmaoooo
nope got censored
HAHAHAH
You may have misunderstood the assignment
i didnt say nothing that bad prob because i said c u n t
My favourite word
In all fairness, it is funny ๐
wanker, tosser, pillock
Wrongun
Are you unfamiliar with how it is viewed in the us? THE C WORD! They are truly living 1984 slowly
Ha!
I heard some british people say twat as an insult too? I don't know what that means though
wanker, dipsht, snozface, , dckhead,
Yep
yep twat is common
well its a verb too you say imma twat it might mean send it flying
Spectacular
knobhead is a good one
mods are going to ban all of us now ๐ ๐
It's so nice how it's used so differently between continents
Twat means the same thing as the c word
thank you meow, what would I do without you !
Cry
It's ok, in 3 days we will get what we came here for
true....
