h2-discussion

[granite mauve]

I want to be friends with everyone ❤️

[brazen ibex]

This energizes me better than COFFEE

[short raft]

Icarus is a sweet boi, even in non romance stuff, dudes straight up a bro

[brazen ibex]

Whenever I'm on a deadline I just throw on The End of Time and my speed instantly doubles its crazy

[slim pike]

you can see the remains of Medusa's head on Athena's Shield

[orchid acorn]

that worse

how am i supposed to bang

[covert valve]

You're....you're...like me...a les...a leb...a lesb...girls...

[verbal rampart]

Low on my list are Narcissus and Athena, and also Eris. And maybe Heracles.

[orchid acorn]

give me a top half spider bottom half human at least

[short raft]

]it blinks still.

[acoustic ruin]

im a guy

[covert valve]

Same difference

[cursive kayak]

i like all the romance relationships equally for different reasons (though im a bit biased toward moros sometimes)

[short raft]

girl enjoyers, unite!

[verbal rampart]

Develop, I wish to hear your arguments

[verbal rampart]

You just stole my line!

[brazen ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864507155721617411/1412407518138863737/theendofwrists_2.mp4?ex=68caa381&is=68c95201&hm=0dcdc2673172a0b4c862aaf462656a3e296b34ab1c3db32834271866b2a2409b&

[short raft]

https://tenor.com/view/dcau-justice-league-unlimited-wally-west-the-flash-flash-gif-21384457

[brazen ibex]

Darren Korb and Lewis Cole in the studio like

[cursive kayak]

i am a bit too tired to expand upon that right now but maybe later

[covert valve]

Listen, theres a reason a whole island is dedicated to the lesbians okay? Which reminds me, if they ever consider a Hades 3...I'd love to see Lesbos lol

[hearty fog]

Also @brazen ibex whenever they hear The End of Time.

[covert valve]

Like even mentioned...it would be epic

[brazen ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/benedict-cumberbatch-doctor-strange-dr-strange-butterfly-space-gif-24974706

[covert valve]

Or maybe a mention of Sappho? Either way

[verbal rampart]

I can't wait for the fanart of quadruple romance of Melinoe

[short raft]

Hades 3, leaked footage intro screen:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/616448079788507146/1417536752872063060/image.png?ex=68cad77a&is=68c985fa&hm=0f1d0d9abd26f9830faa3065f774a06af93dacb0c10c01219aef4c6869dea861&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=868&height=654

[supple nymph]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852833387030380546/1417536881910091857/Screenshot_786.png?ex=68cad799&is=68c98619&hm=00b209edb0abbf9284dc0fcfaf5cb593c6f61d9768ec0b8c16892606741f1855&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=897&height=505
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852833387030380546/1417536701693296670/image.png?ex=68cad76e&is=68c985ee&hm=750a3582dfe9040b57f113cf41ea69abfe35fca7cc71a7a2990ecc72d59b9780&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=897&height=505

ITS FINALLY OVER

[bronze oak]

Im still holding out hope that herc is romancable in 1.0 😭

[wintry dagger]

Nah that’s a Hades 3 romance for sure

[verbal rampart]

Heracles? A romance with him? Are you crazyyyyy?

[bronze oak]

He's so hot

[marsh spear]

We really don't have an air fryer

[verbal rampart]

He's dangerous and hates witches

[cursive kayak]

i don’t think herc could be less interested in melinoe LMAO

[bronze oak]

That makes it hotter...

[verbal rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-gold-ship-goldship-uma-musume-gif-152341959483515608

[marsh spear]

Prom however

[verbal rampart]

You deserved it.

[cursive kayak]

are u saying herc is interested in prom? because honestly i hadnt thought about that before and i can sort of see it

they’re both outcasts of the godly world intrinsically tied with humanity and seen as lesser for it

[marsh spear]

Babygirl/boy/them: them INSTANT i entered the rivals3 room i went ROOMMATES

[cursive kayak]

LOL

honestly I love that, thank you for enlightening me

[empty abyss]

and u like girls

[marsh spear]

It's like that bar meme where two people say they hate the same thing at the same time and strat kissing immediately

[cursive kayak]

YEAH LMAO

[acoustic ruin]

[marsh spear]

Girls are cool. Unfortunately, I'm gay

[cursive kayak]

now I really wanna see herc/prom

[verbal rampart]

I'm bisexual, which makes almost everyone hot in this game for me. Almost everyone.

[slim pike]

but especially skelly

[marsh spear]

Wow playing fallout easy mode i see

[empty abyss]

usually I would vouch for this but Heracles is truly lost. Man's on a journey trying to break free of the gods, who killed hi family. Literally no scent of love nor care inside that man.

[cursive kayak]

the disgruntled son of the king who tortured him, who helps him out and feels the same way about the gods? damn this is actually fire

[acoustic ruin]

if bouldy isnt on that list we gonna riot !!!11!

[short raft]

Im bi

[hearty fog]

I've unironically tried to sell Hades 1 to some bisexual people before. "Look, there will never not be someone hot on-screen."

[verbal rampart]

And you did well.

[verbal rampart]

Bouldy is love, Bouldy is life

[acoustic ruin]

if we gonna be able to pet the dog in 1.0 we should be able to polish bouldy aswell, on those rare occasions the dog is not with Hades !

[empty abyss]

the Bull of Minos and that guy really dipped when Chronos took over, huh. The king of the Titans came back and they fr didnt want any of that godly smoke

[acoustic ruin]

well they might have been corrupted? cause they are still "shades" arent they? so they might not even know that they are "evil" now. Its like they just switched their perspective of whats "evil" -> "good"

[empty abyss]

under Hades rule those 2 lived like kings. Chronos defly took their social security check when he got in charge.

[cursive kayak]

i mean the question is what did chronos do to elysium? i dont think its been discussed in game

presumably it’s in shambles now

[acoustic ruin]

if he even done anything 🤷🏻‍♂️ cause he might just stopped and renovating tartarus and the other places he just sent his minions or corrupted the shades who lived there

[cursive kayak]

yeah

we just don’t really know

im assuming we will find out though

[empty abyss]

how does shade get corrupted? Like the zombies, big barrel horaders and assassins? I thought they were just bad people overall

[acoustic ruin]

well cerberus also gets corrupted by "corrupted shades" doesnt he? you can even see them in his design down at his paws

so i would say that the presence of chronos corrupts them, like mind controle

[orchid acorn]

quite literally nothing

[empty abyss]

that was the effect of the Mourning Fields yea, even Mel was affected

[orchid acorn]

all he did was open the doors and let everyone go if they wanted

and elysium is the staging grounds for a lot of his forces iirc

there some dialogue about thats why mel can't og there

[empty abyss]

ye thats why we gotta go in this wet ahh place

[cursive kayak]

i do not remember that dialogue but that would make sense

[empty abyss]

Elysium is full of watchful eyes atm. Figures since cmon everybody and their mama knows Elysium. Course thats gon be the big gathering place for Chronos goons

[small zealot]

i’ve barely played since initial release, is there anything i should know leading into full?

[orchid acorn]

not really

[empty abyss]

we havent unveiled even a tiny bit of the story. Were in for a ride.

[lyric matrix]

I think it's when you first go to the mini cut scene in the training grounds.

[orchid acorn]

i'd say that if you haven't played much just wait until 1.0 and start a new file

since you will just be disconnected from the main story anyway and get the full experience without getting cut off early if you do win

[small zealot]

planning on it already, i mainly mean build wise cuz apparently pan-poseidon got kneecapped and it was my favorite

[hearty fog]

Pan-Poseidon kinda still works, it just requires Trick Knives now.

Omega Special builds are pretty dead.

[orchid acorn]

worse
pan got kneecaped AND posiedon got kneecapped specifically for pan(and coat special)

so double whammy

[small zealot]

no shot

any fun builds i should try on release?

[acoustic ruin]

winning ones

[orchid acorn]

yes shot
now you

• are self stunned during your omega special animation
• if you dash out of that self stun you cancel all remaining knives for no magick refund
• posiedon now has a internal cooldown for splashes, and since PAN knives all hit around the same time you only get about 50% of knives splashing

[cursive kayak]

im always a freezer burn proponent

[small zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-nooo-gif-12308355

[orchid acorn]

yeah it feels really clunky

but it was their best attempt at fixing the aspect i guess?

certainly killed its casual viability thats for sure

[sharp cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-you-anakin-gif-5247878

[balmy shuttle]

yo lowkey bro ion care but i am gonna use the most broken build on release

frick that shi bro like i wanna see the ending

[orchid acorn]

i mean... yeah

[balmy shuttle]

on fear 0

[cursive kayak]

i mean yeah same

[sharp cosmos]

You do you lad, playing for the story is valid as all hell

[balmy shuttle]

man i already have 300 hours

[orchid acorn]

i personally won't be doing medea strats, ill be using whatever balance changes happened that appeal to me probably

like if they buff persephone catch me using that

or mel axe to be useful pls

[sleek oar]

I have also considered the 0f speedrun to see the ending

[orchid acorn]

but 0 fear all the way

[cursive kayak]

im probably just gonna be using aspect of moros and quickly melting through things for the story

[sharp cosmos]

Which aspect of the Axe is the "meta" one actually ?

[sleek oar]

Lowkey, for fastest runs, isnt 8f the best

[balmy shuttle]

man i just wanna see melinoe intreact with zagreus

[cursive kayak]

sameeee

[orchid acorn]

nergal

[peak moat]

i gotta earn that story. when 1.0 releases i will only be doing 62 fear runs with mel axe

[balmy shuttle]

he is gonna be voice acted by the same guy right

[cursive kayak]

so many of my bingo board options for the 1.0 bingo board im making had to do with zag so im making a separate zag board i think

[verbal rampart]

Real.

[small zealot]

tried a surface run the other day, wtf did they feed the third boss

what he did to me should be put on law and order

[orchid acorn]

mel axe has issues, but dash attack spam works if you had to and its hp is helpful to just facetank(but nergal is better)

thanatos i like but its hard to keep the crit bonus going tbh

charon is actually disgusting damage so it might be better than nergal in a 0fear context

nergal is literally infinite hp and big dmg and aoe

if you made me pick one for 0 fear it'd probably be charon

in my normal 40+ fear setups nergal

[cursive kayak]

charon is such a fun aspect

[peak moat]

prometheus is more annoying to fight than typhon imo

especially with rivals

[cursive kayak]

prometheus is just far more punishing for my playstyle than typhon is LOL

im very much melee/in your face for my playstyle and prom punishes that so badly

[small zealot]

“it’s fine i can just eat the hit” and i get folded like a lawn chair

[cursive kayak]

REAL

[bronze oak]

Trust me I can fix him

[marsh spear]

Naaah he can mess me up

[bronze oak]

Real

[sharp cosmos]

He foresaw your failure, sorry mate

[bronze oak]

Im probably gonna play medea every time I have to play skulls just cuz it's the only fun one for me 💀

[balmy shuttle]

man how strong is melinoe

beating chronos all by herself

[sharp cosmos]

Medea is the one when you run towards the enemies with a nuke, right ?

[bronze oak]

Yeah special detonates attacks

[cursive kayak]

mel skull is fun especially with the hammer that auto collects it

honestly the auto collect hammer is the best skull hammer

[sharp cosmos]

I usually play mel skull to just stay in tango range and cycle the skulls at an alarming rate

[cursive kayak]

oh yeah mel skull is constant attack for me lmao

[peak moat]

ngl i think ive used the mel aspect on the skull like twice ever lol

i just find persephone more fun

[nocturne zenith]

my funnest run with mel skull was exceptional talent + wide grin. everything dies so fast with that.

ofc mel's aspect bonus doesn't really work with wide grin unless you fail to pick up some of the shells in between volleys...

[orchid acorn]

i was just about to write that lmao

"my funnest run was the one where my hammer didn't work" 🔥

[nocturne zenith]

aspect, not hammer

the hammer worked perfectly

[orchid acorn]

ye mb

"where my aspect broke from my hammer"

[nocturne zenith]

i feel like wide grin exists solely for the skull smile imagery tbh

[buoyant matrix]

it's good on persephone

[hexed bramble]

I’m so mad hades 2 is gonna be a timed exclusive I gotta wait a year for it to come out 🥲

[little frost]

does persephone even give omega damage anymore?

[orchid acorn]

no.

[little frost]

:c

[buoyant matrix]

but you can gamble for giga leveled poms!!

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[orchid acorn]

i need this but showing 3 level 0 boons

[little frost]

at least you can make the argument that it instacharges your meter if you get the right attack? maybe?

so you can do a normal damaging omega special

please just give back omega special damage at least

[orchid acorn]

what would insta charge it? Heph clangs don't stack off wide grin

scorch is basically the same thing as non wide grin

blitz i guess you could theoretically detonate the blitz if order of operations works in its favor

[buoyant matrix]

i can't imagine a situation where wide grin isn't a dps up with persephone

[orchid acorn]

posiedon waves i guess? but its 2000 damage for max change, 4 skulls aint gonna be 2k damage of splashes

[little frost]

hmm good point, I literally never kept in memory what counts as olympian damage tbh

[nocturne zenith]

i think it's anything with an actual damage number listed on the boon itself.

i.e. not % increases

[orchid acorn]

simple checklist

Is it mel damage? Its not olympian

Is it from something mel isn't doing? Its olympain

[little frost]

I mean sure but it's just like the same as mel skulls atp

[peak moat]

just checked, wounds do not count as olympian damage 💔

[orchid acorn]

yes, they do.

but its really weird cause its like partial credit

[peak moat]

oops

[buoyant matrix]

yeah but you get to keep your aspect
i feel like playing persephone skull yall focus on olympian damage so much you forget the skulls themselves deal damage

[nocturne zenith]

i'd imagine they count for whatever the bonus power of wounds is, but not for the % increase ares attack/special apply on top of that

[peak moat]

yeah persephone skull is still good because you can start with like level 3 apollo attack

[orchid acorn]

specifically only the power the wounds gives you, not the damage the wound increases

like i said, really specific

[cursive kayak]

in theory

let’s go gambling!

aw dang it

[orchid acorn]

on the other hand, you have a 50% chance to have literally no aspect

well. no aspect bonus

you still have the mom car ospecial i guess

[nocturne zenith]

fwiw persephone always has the sprouted mechanic, which afaik has been there from the start. i feel like that's intended to be the real draw of the aspect, not the poms.

[peak moat]

but you still get more boons later. eventually you'll get the epic level 6 sea star

[buoyant matrix]

the iframes are actually great yeah

[nocturne zenith]

which does kind of invite the question of why do the pom thing at all unless they wanted to tie it in to mom blossom

[orchid acorn]

the most important boons are the ones you take ifrst

[orchid acorn]

cause persephone was kinda buns before and not really a fun way to play

[buoyant matrix]

yall should watch daiyu's 62 with persephone, bro had iframes for like 70% of the duration of typhon fight

[orchid acorn]

unseen launch persephone was actually peak

1/6 chance for level 0/2/3/4/5/6 boons

[nocturne zenith]

i liked it when it had omega and/or cast damage though. provided another option for cast builds. rn it's basically just circe and charon.

[buoyant matrix]

i mean you can definitely make cast builds work on other aspects

they don't encourage it but you can

[cursive kayak]

omega cast for momus can be solid

[peak moat]

i did a momus omega cast build with hostile environment and it was shockingly fun tbh

the repeating omega casts from momus still follow you so its kinda like playing curse of drowning from hades 1

[cursive kayak]

oh I haven’t done that build that sounds awesome

I know what im doing today lol

[wooden drift]

Hey guys maybe a dumb question but when I fish there’s always one star, is there multiple star fish? Am I doing something wrong to not get them?

[sharp cosmos]

No, there's one star for almost everything

like incantations, gifts, fishes, everything

And there's nothing but one star

[wooden drift]

Okay good I was like “I don’t know how I’m messing this up but I am”

I usually assume I’m the problem. I’ll bring it up with my therapist

[sharp cosmos]

Take care of your mental health indeed 🫂

[orchid acorn]

there are 3 fish per region with their own rarities but i honestly have never noticed stars

[digital bear]

I have a question about testings and the final ending. There is someone on the chinese Internet claiming that players were invited to test the game, and that the final ending is sh*t. Let's put down his opinion towards the "final ending" first, I'm just wondering if it's possible that players were invited to test the game.

[nocturne zenith]

i'd personally find that unlikely and out of character for sgg

[digital bear]

oh god I probably should not ask this while amir and greg is online

[raven perch]

It’s possible

[cursive kayak]

yeah that doesn’t seem correct necessarily

[raven perch]

They credited beta testers in H1 iirc

[cursive kayak]

im assuming they used a professional playtesting company if they hired anyone, not just random people

[raven perch]

maybe maybe

[sharp cosmos]

I mean, you're allowed to ask questions, even baseless, as long as you're not accusatory

[orchid acorn]

yes its highly possible

If nothing else, localization is VERY known to leak especially in asian markets

[digital bear]

that guy often show up on rednote and we are all kind of familiar with him, and his words made some chinese fans worried while still being excited about the coming release.

[oak ivy]

why didn't they choose us, the most dedicated players to playtest the ending 💔

[orchid acorn]

yeah nah, they 100% likely have like 3rd tier final testing for notable community members. I would NOT be shocked if people in speedcord or moderators here have access

[scenic jungle]

The opinion of some guy probably shouldnt dictate your own, especially since we havent played the ending

[orchid acorn]

well. notable members of speedcord anyway

foolish gettng the world first 1.0 medea run pre release 🔥

(it got buffed)

[scenic jungle]

Ill be shocked if Medea doesnt get nukes on 1.0 patch

[polar abyss]

No Pronto. I think that everything except Medea got nerfed

[polar abyss]

That would be the 1.0 patch

[orchid acorn]

internal dev testing
QA playtesting
Friends and family playtesting
Live

pretty normal cycle

[orchid acorn]

the one aspect to rule them all

[oak ivy]

wide grin REMOVED
replaced with: NARROW FROWN: when you press attack, you use up only 1/3 of a shell, meaning you get to effectively have 12 shells in total

[orchid acorn]

call it O face

[scenic jungle]

Finally something that works on mel skull

[polar abyss]

I mean Bolstered Array is pretty good on Mel Skull

[scenic jungle]

Im being hyperbolic lol

[polar abyss]

Oh

[scenic jungle]

But yeah

Im honestly unsure what to expect in general but Im excited

[orchid acorn]

anyway RE: ending with how the story has been shaping up and how hades 1 epilogue was handled, i wouldn't shocked if it is found... wanting.

[raven perch]

:)

[orchid acorn]

a lot of people seem to have an idea that it will be some grand masterpiece with a unfolding story like this is the start of the game again

this IS the climax, and it will be wrapped up... fairly quickly

especially with how good we are as players we won't really have the time to digest it properly and go on a 10 winstreak lmfao

[scenic jungle]

I think the premise for Hades 2 is even harder to tie up perfectly while not overwriting the fact its a roguelike

[slim pike]

That's well understood as a problem

[orchid acorn]

like its entirely possible the ending gets more palatable with the side character dialogue interactions, and if you just blast through on a 10(or however many wins) winstreak its ass

[slim pike]

The scope of h1's story was so not-epic that you could easily make it endless

Because it was just a family quarrel with the status quo of the world itself not in any kind of peril

[oak ivy]

: (

[pallid cradle]

I'm still convinced Foolish is a dev in disguise. There's no way Medea has made it this far.

[sleek oar]

Did you not like the final epilouge?

[scenic jungle]

Darren Korbs alt account

[pallid cradle]

Supay got reworked twice in a week.

[orchid acorn]

more along the lines of how the first ending wrapped up the story in 10 wins.

[pallid cradle]

Medea got the funniest slap on the wrist you've ever seen. "Slight range nerf"

[orchid acorn]

The final final ending epilogue with the family feast was fluff, and i highly doubt that is the "story ending" for h2 players are 'supposed' to see

[oak ivy]

Yeah I'm really hoping for the incantations to backfire or not work at all and to have some crazy plottwist that we have to do a lot more runs and figure out some other unique strategy to win...

but it's very unlikely....

[scenic jungle]

I mean it's pretty likely

[orchid acorn]

this is the copium that players are going to be VERY disappointed in if they seriously believe it.

im willing to be wrong, infact i HOPE im wrong

[scenic jungle]

They seem doomed to fail

[orchid acorn]

cause thats just more hades 2 for me if they do continue past that for the first ending

but i just do not see it

[pallid cradle]

Those incantations failing is the only way you can realistically justify the continued running of the game after the credits.

[sleek oar]

The nightmare theoryy

[orchid acorn]

the main problem with that line of thought is that IF they fail it would literally be red dead redemption style "Surprise, we have an entire 2nd half of the game"

[scenic jungle]

I honestly thought that Hypnos would be required for either main end or epilogue

[oak ivy]

I can't tell you how many times I've been expecting too much and been severely disappointed... and yet I cant stop it!!!!!!!!! I cant stop being hyped or hope for something huge!!!

It's baked into my DNA to want some crazy plottwists everywhere 😔

[sleek oar]

Id say how h1 continued the runs post credit was way less realistic

[acoustic ruin]

atleast something is being baked in your house

[orchid acorn]

really? i thought it was fine

[raven perch]

It was lame but it was fine

[orchid acorn]

zag running continued security for the realm to prevent other breaches was great in my eyes whats wrong with that

meow if you think h1 ended lamely you will prob hate h2 ending 😭

[scenic jungle]

It just seems to grand a concept unless they been working alot of secret stuff this whole time, but the first time they noted working on the true ending sequence was back warsongs roadmap so I really doubt it

[sleek oar]

Pronto, i think youre way too pessimistic about this ending

[orchid acorn]

in what way?

[raven perch]

Oh yeah man I do

[orchid acorn]

im realistic imo. Its not going to go on some massive story unraveling across like 50 runs

[pallid cradle]

I had enough arguments with my parents as a teenager. Hades ending was perfectly realistic.

[orchid acorn]

yall need to remember that its based in a vacuum of a fresh file

not us who have been fiending for content for months just to get the last 20% of the game and go "thats it?

[raven perch]

Ough

[oak ivy]

😔

[sleek oar]

Well you just said that h2 ending might be hated based on only what someone thinks of h1’s ending

[orchid acorn]

yeah cause i feel like h1 will wrap up similarly with reasons to justify it

[sleek oar]

Your argument really has no basis

[nocturne zenith]

i'm expecting 7-10 runs each for underworld and surface required for the full ending, although if hypnos is involved then who knows what his stuff will entail

[oak ivy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/709171988400439347/1399416627975557274/image.png?ex=68cad6cc&is=68c9854c&hm=a89fc8588b34003aba5fc164f86f160512c5156c87080b19ac8e6f532362a715&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=940&height=940

[raven perch]

It has basis in the sense that there’s really no ending they could write that would make me 100% happy

[oak ivy]

😔

[orchid acorn]

doubling the runs required is a big ask but its possible. i see it more as 5 runs per route

[pallid cradle]

You've had this meme loaded for a while. I feel it.

[orchid acorn]

but even moreso if people expect it to be hades 1 level of commitment just to start the final act

[oak ivy]

I WISH arguing with your family irl would lead to actual meaningful change and growth on both sides and reconciling !!!

[scenic jungle]

Doesnt it take a few runs to even unlock the surface route

[oak ivy]

yep!!! it hits hard, so I saved it 😔

[orchid acorn]

this is why domestic abuse was invented

[acoustic ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-mac-speak-yo-mind-gif-12786317

[sleek oar]

I havent seen a single piece of media end in a 100% satisfying way, so idk, immediately writing stuff off as “will not be good” is not productive imo

[oak ivy]

that's the opposite of that????

[scenic jungle]

Invented is crazy

[pallid cradle]

Fair enough.

[orchid acorn]

wym beating people until they share the same opinion as me has worked so far

[oak ivy]

thank you 🙏

[nocturne zenith]

5 per isnt impossible but iirc there are 7 members of the House currently frozen in time, so freeing 1 per run seemed reasonable

[peak moat]

i mean h1 was like 7 wins and you still got some story stuff from losses right?

[merry whale]

so the game is requiring u to do rivals 3 for heracles lore right

[sharp cosmos]

That one didn't use enough violence yet
Violence solves everything ya know

[pallid cradle]

This guy lives in the same state as me.

[orchid acorn]

😭

[digital bear]

i think the story is now stuck in somewhere rather awkward. like, if it's something like, finish chronos once and for all then the play-die-restart-play cycle will be hard to explain

[nocturne zenith]

h1 was 10 wins to bring persephone back

[scenic jungle]

I kinda doubt getting 7 full npcs in the cast even if it be cool

[oak ivy]

I found Pronto's alt account !!!!!!

[acoustic ruin]

but soon you are allowed to leave and he isnt

[peak moat]

true ending is that heracles and prometheus kiss and the power of love kills kronos and typhon for good. and then the game ends and you have to make a new save file

[pallid cradle]

LMAO

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/god-slap-slap-of-god-nicolas-cage-slap-gif-1927807492062256907

[digital bear]

and if it goes like h1, it could be, well, wanting

[sharp cosmos]

Yes, it's me, i am pronto

[orchid acorn]

the ankle monitor beeping will be the last thing you hear

[merry whale]

peak

[acoustic ruin]

dang i would have a perfect german meme gif to answer to that, but it will be lost in translation

[nocturne zenith]

oh, yeah, i really want to know wtf is going on with prometheus and heracles (not like that, but also kind of like that, but mostly in the sense of "what is your end goal here?") and where the fates are hidden away

[sharp cosmos]

(For moderation purpose, no, this ain't an alt, please don't ban both of us, thank you)

[orchid acorn]

they can't ban all of us

we ALL (yes you reading this) are pronto alts

[oak ivy]

we ALL (yes you reading this) are pronto alts

[nocturne zenith]

🤨

[sharp cosmos]

Damn, the pronto-demic has infected sgg discord

[acoustic ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/bongocat-banhammer-ban-hammer-bongo-gif-18219363

[oak ivy]

whoops wrong account

[peak moat]

the real ending is that you free everyone in the house and hades says "well the house of hades shouldnt be that easy to break into. keep doing it so we can like test security or something"

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-wavefront-peak-peak-vr-peak-cinema-gif-11622198235961314216

[polar abyss]

Hey, wait a minute… if Lilac is Pronto’s alt, does that mean that Pronto hate himself? /s

[orchid acorn]

they're onto me run

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-scatter-group-mission-gif-24296299

[scenic jungle]

I hope at the end of the first ending Melinoe goes "Now we gotta save Hades too!"

[oak ivy]

I mean if you don't hate yourself what are you even doing with your life? 😔

loving yourself is boring 🥱

[pallid cradle]

Agreed

[sharp cosmos]

Pronto finally being relatable, as everyone hates themselves

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/fml-killme-adamsandler-singing-please-gif-3560723

[polar abyss]

And I hope that in the first ending, Melinoe makes a terrible pun, like “Time for you to go Chronos”, and then gets slashed in the face with Chronos’s dying breath

[acoustic ruin]

your body already tried didnt it

[orchid acorn]

real

[raven perch]

Its clockblocking time

[scenic jungle]

They need a laugh track

[digital bear]

hey! disagree with the second half! there is surely one in game who doesn't

[idle cypress]

I hope that the incantations for Chronos/ Typhon require some wisdom from Nyx, cause she's alluded a lot to, so it would be nice to see that pay off

[scenic jungle]

It kinda be a crime if Mel doesn't meet Night

But Im kinda expecting it not to happen

[idle cypress]

Or make a whole deal out of trying to communicate with her while frozen

[digital bear]

we NEED mel meeting her family ok???

[orchid acorn]

mel is breaking into the house of hades specifically for moms ice cream stash

[acoustic ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-outlaws-han-solo-kay-vess-freeze-solo-gif-16794872574799661791

[orchid acorn]

she walks past all the other random people frozen in time

[acoustic ruin]

the meeting will be like that

[digital bear]

lol

[idle cypress]

Time to steal Zag's posters

[scenic jungle]

"Damn you live like this?"

[pallid cradle]

Man I hope not, that game was ass

[acoustic ruin]

now that you mention it, that scene is from a game 💀 just searched for "frozen han solo" and that one fit the most

[pallid cradle]

Yea it's from that bad star wars game released last year. Or was it this year? Outlaws

[oak ivy]

say the full sentence!!

[orchid acorn]

LEAKED CUTSCENE FROM 1.0

https://imgur.com/yukxqF8

[oak ivy]

lmaooo

[little frost]

the devil works fast but pronto is faster

[oak ivy]

i know right??

[acoustic ruin]

well tecnically he didnt live in it the how many years it took mel to grow up 💀

[little frost]

crazy work

[idle cypress]

"wow, chronos had no mercy for this place"
"What do you mean, that's just my room"

[acoustic ruin]

pronto is hell's ceo to the manager Satan 💀

[orchid acorn]

i like to imagine greg seeing that image and chuckling

[little frost]

does chronos sleep? does he need a room and stuff?

why can't we stab him in his sleep

[oak ivy]

you really enjoy bringing the worst out of people.... digging up their inner evil desires 😔

[little frost]

like chuckles

[oak ivy]

exactly!

[orchid acorn]

your the one who laughs at my dark humor

not my fault

[sharp cosmos]

On the other hand, Mel's furniture is like 99.5% rugs

[oak ivy]

👀

[little frost]

god forbid a girl is rugpilled

[oak ivy]

I giggle at it sometimes

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/tfnW7W8 clipped

[idle cypress]

I'm p sure dora makes a remark on it

[sharp cosmos]

yes she does

[acoustic ruin]

she lives in a forest, let the girl have rugs against the mud 💀

[oak ivy]

rugs are great!

[acoustic ruin]

until you got a pet, and they shed and they are old then your rugs might retain some stains

no poopy stuff, but old wound stuff

[little frost]

cleaning skill issues I fear

[raven perch]

Rugs are rugly

[little frost]

that's crazy

enjoy your cold cement and tile floor

[orchid acorn]

rugs are kinda trash ngl

i don't even like the mat i have for my chair

[raven perch]

Carpet

[little frost]

CLEARLY people here aren't cut out for the witch lifestyle and should NOT continue playing h2

[raven perch]

Im in the house

[orchid acorn]

its WOOD laminate thank you very much

i know cause i did it myself

[little frost]

sorry yall have bad rugs and bad taste ig

[oak ivy]

wait what's the difference?

[raven perch]

Woww handy manny over here

[orchid acorn]

sis its like legos

[oak ivy]

I thought these were interchangeable words...

[raven perch]

Rugs are a small bit, carpet is the whole floor

[little frost]

rugs are separate and moveable yeah

[orchid acorn]

literally snap and boom the floor is together

just cut what pieces are too long

[oak ivy]

ohhhh then yeah carpets are better

[orchid acorn]

carpets aint bad

[raven perch]

I have a rug over my carpet

[orchid acorn]

annoying as HELL to clean and install

[acoustic ruin]

but if you got a lot of rugs on top of carpets its goated again

[raven perch]

It doesn’t fit it’s at an angle

[orchid acorn]

but once the carpet is down tis fine i guess

[acoustic ruin]

we are not talking about "installing" carpet for the whole floor, we are talking about seperate stuff on TOP of your floor

not the american "carped everything" style

[orchid acorn]

this says otherwise

[oak ivy]

who needs carpets? just wear warm socks!

[orchid acorn]

rugs are ass
carpet is ok

just wear a blanket everywhere

[raven perch]

Check it out I’m in the house

[orchid acorn]

i have one on me rn and im at work

(i get cold easily)

[little frost]

like carpet, yes yes

[oak ivy]

have some 🔥 to warm yourself up

[raven perch]

houselike carpet

[orchid acorn]

ty

[orchid acorn]

theres a nsfw joke here

[little frost]

cold upon ye

[orchid acorn]

but i can't make it

[little frost]

yum more tomatoes

[orchid acorn]

chat anyone else not like tomatos but like ketchup

[acoustic ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/grogu-star-wars-mandalorian-baby-yoda-gif-9168999412781595068

[raven perch]

Me me me

[little frost]

I can understand that cause I used to be that way

but then I grew up and started salting my tomatoes when you put them on sandwiches

[acoustic ruin]

i dont like how fresh tomatos taste "green/grassy" but once they are cooked in dont mind them

[spiral canopy]

squints

[raven perch]

Dont worry about it!

[oak ivy]

Mod alert!!!

[orchid acorn]

mel is vegan so this is fine to talk about

its her dietary choices or something

[sleek oar]

I think tomatoes taste pretty red

[raven perch]

They literally don’t

[little frost]

good tomatoes taste like they got kissed by the sun

[nocturne zenith]

i love tomato sauce and slices on sandwitches, but i don't like them in salad and i'm eh at best on ketchup

[little frost]

growing cherry tomatoes at home and they're addicting

[orchid acorn]

tomato sauce 😋

[little frost]

always recommend

[acoustic ruin]

ye but you can only find those if you grew them yourself and did it right

[orchid acorn]

salads are ew

i need HOT food thanks

[nocturne zenith]

and yes the tomatoes you buy at the grocery are awful, they're bred for durability first and flavor second so their taste suffers. canned is actually better because of this as long as you don't need them raw.

[little frost]

that's kinda based tbh but also eat ur veggies

[oak ivy]

Pronto's final words, aged 28:

[orchid acorn]

i eat veggies

[acoustic ruin]

salads with a hot topping, pine nuts and parmesan are 🐐 what you are talking about

[orchid acorn]

i like carrots broccoli cauliflower uhhh

[scenic jungle]

Im picky af ngl

[orchid acorn]

peas

potatoes

[nocturne zenith]

i used to not like veg but then i discovered roasting. roasted veg are delicious.

[orchid acorn]

boiled veg is 🤮

[oak ivy]

Potatoes don't count

[orchid acorn]

steamed and roasting is peak

[scenic jungle]

I like just potatoes p much

[raven perch]

I like frying vegetables

I don’t care if it’s not healthy

[sharp cosmos]

Boiled veg is the main reason children don't like veggies, and that's a tragedy

[little frost]

roasted veggies are way better than raw like 90% of the time

[orchid acorn]

feed me instead thx

[acoustic ruin]

she has trouble feeding herself how should she feed you on top (/jk )

[raven perch]

I thought lilac famously did not eat

[sharp cosmos]

ah yes sorry

[orchid acorn]

wait your right holy we're both gonna starve

[oak ivy]

No thanks I want to find one of those feminist boyfriends that do the kitchen stuff instead!

[spiral isle]

I think a good salad with a few non-veggies at the side makes for a good meal, especially with a good sauce or dressing

[acoustic ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[sharp cosmos]

One notable exception to raw vs steamed to me is capsicum slices. Raw slices are awesome to snack on

[orchid acorn]

peppers are trash

[little frost]

crezy

[acoustic ruin]

spicy peppers or bell peppers?

[orchid acorn]

bell peppers
they have ZERO flavor and only exist to be filler

[little frost]

extra crazy

[sharp cosmos]

Damn, Pronto's psyche is already divided, the alt are splitting personalities

[acoustic ruin]

which colour are you talking about? red, orange, yellow or green

[orchid acorn]

spicy peppers are ok but im also white

[sharp cosmos]

That's one take of all time

[little frost]

pronto might have burned all his taste buds off as a child

[spiral isle]

bell peppers have flavor. but not really sure what the flavor is supposed to add onto

[acoustic ruin]

funny that peppers have no flavour but there is literally paprika spice 💀

[little frost]

also depends if you cook the peppers at all, they tend to get sweeter if you roast/grill them

[acoustic ruin]

pronto is trippin

[orchid acorn]

im talking green/yellow/red bell peppers

[spiral isle]

best I can do with them is probably a kebab

[acoustic ruin]

grilled bell pepper is peak as a side dish !

[oak ivy]

All hades conversations lead back to talking about food........

[little frost]

literally

[little frost]

we hunger...

[orchid acorn]

im also like turbo meat pilled

i need meat

[raven perch]

Nem just offered me 750 gold for a common static shock . Girl the economy

[little frost]

okay but you can also eat vegetables with ur meat

[oak ivy]

I am mostly chicken pilled!!

[orchid acorn]

the vegetable needs to be good

[spiral isle]

just as long as you don't get gout, meat's fine

[little frost]

woah samesies cause red meat makes my stomach hurt sometimes lol

[orchid acorn]

chicken> any other protein

steak is mid fight me

[little frost]

NAH REAL ACTUALLY

we agree finally

[oak ivy]

Chicken > egg > other protein

[orchid acorn]

lilac im starting to think you are actually me

i love eggs

[oak ivy]

Hahahahahahah

[orchid acorn]

wait do you like deviled eggs

[nocturne zenith]

depends on the steak. ribeye is held up as a gold standard a lot of the time but i don't like how the connective tissue feels in my mouth so i prefer a ny strip

[little frost]

tofu is up there tooooooo 🙏

[oak ivy]

Nop... Only scrambled or over easy...

[sharp cosmos]

Steak is the most basic of meat, like it's boring

[nocturne zenith]

for day to day though i do use chicken more than any other meat and it's not even close

[orchid acorn]

ok you are actually me your trash never talk to me again those things are asscheeks and smell like them too

[acoustic ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/dillon-you-son-of-a-national-handshake-day-classic-reaction-handshake-reaction-gif-25297728

[little frost]

omelets are cool

[orchid acorn]

scrambled over easy poached sunny side up all good

meat lovers omelet 🤤

[spiral isle]

chicken or pork are the most popular for me. the latter can sometimes be more flexible in options

[acoustic ruin]

i dont support the over easy part, because i dont like the "flourery" mouthfeel of egg yolk but i support the scrambled

[orchid acorn]

runny egg yolk is peak

wtf do you mean flourey

[nocturne zenith]

i can only eat eggs over easy when i have toast to mop up the yolk. otherwise scrambled or omelet every time.

[spiral isle]

y'all have sunny side ups?

[orchid acorn]

i mean yeah thats true. i like mopping them up with hash browns or potatos

[spiral isle]

I like mine cooked hot, where the white's got a lil crunch on em

[acoustic ruin]

not the taste, the feeling after you ate it in your mouth atleast for me

[little frost]

also idk who needs to hear this but if you are now an adult who likes chicken and is buying their own food PLEASE learn how to cut up a whole chicken, you'll save so so so much money on meat and chicken stock

[orchid acorn]

i try to avoid bread cause im diabetic. if im gonna eat carbs that mf better be worth it not ust a slice of bread

[acoustic ruin]

i dont cook enough real meat anymore to justify the space/time for that

[orchid acorn]

banana bread is peak but i aint mopping up egg yolk with that

[sharp cosmos]

a slice of bread is nice, but it's a support for everything else

[orchid acorn]

nah im too lazy cause i don't east wings/legs i just like thighs and breasts

im also lazy

[spiral isle]

true, but also there's some dishes that really need exact pieces
There's a chicken rice I do with the oven regularly that only really works with thighs, any other meat and it's somehow clearly not the same

[raven perch]

I also like thighs and breasts 🤤

[orchid acorn]

send proof

[little frost]

well yeah you make that dish with the thighs and figure out how to use the rest of the meat, there's plenty of options for all sorts of palates

pallettes?

[raven perch]

Palates

[orchid acorn]

smh its spelled plates

https://tenor.com/view/food-foodie-hungry-gif-9089096712344830655

[spiral isle]

why are we talking about food btw

someone planning a meal?

[orchid acorn]

1.0 delusion

[oak ivy]

All hades discussions always lead to talking about food

[sharp cosmos]

yeah, what I can get you ?

[oak ivy]

That's how it is here

[spiral isle]

interesting
I'll just get meself some insta noods

[acoustic ruin]

could you imagine a frinos birthday cake but not the american style but the fluffy japanese style cake

[orchid acorn]

theres a nsfw joke here

[little frost]

there always is

[acoustic ruin]

do you mean instant noodles or insta noods 💀

[orchid acorn]

both are worth eating

[acoustic ruin]

cause those are 2 completly different things ....

[raven perch]

I don’t think you can

[spiral canopy]

okay i think we are way too off topic currently

[twin apex]

what kind of food do you think they serve at the crossroads taverna?

[orchid acorn]

scatter

[sharp cosmos]

for your health and nutrient apport, please don't eat digitalized picture

[raven perch]

Onions and fish

For some reason Odysseus has a lemon?

[acoustic ruin]

meat/fish scewers and soup i would assume

[orchid acorn]

rat

[twin apex]

do you think ambrosia is alcoholic?

[oak ivy]

Ghost onions are my favourite!!

[raven perch]

Lemons didn’t exist back then

[raven perch]

I think ambrosia is but nectar isn’t

[orchid acorn]

ill make you not exist currently

[merry whale]

given how regularly off topic this channel gets all the time it's funny that food is what gets the attention

[acoustic ruin]

Cooking Mama : hades edition coming soon, trust instead of a pot you got a cauldron, a frinos styled oven/microwave etc !

[honest solar]

wait silsong next week is real?

[sharp cosmos]

Nah, it's Sienna DLC time

[acoustic ruin]

why does my window sil break into song

[honest solar]

i mean hades

my brain got confused

i thought this was coming next year

[orchid acorn]

you thought wrong

it borderline always was coming this year, the question was just what month

6+ months without an update would've been very questionable

[honest solar]

1.0 i mean

[orchid acorn]

yes. 1.0

last update was in july, major update in june.

releasing in jan/feb or later would be 6+ months of no update

[honest solar]

last update was in june i forgot

so like is the story now released i forget how 1.0 launch was for the original hades

[twin apex]

i was hoping the goal to be early december for the holiday sales, but was expecting like january. was very pleasantly surprised to see september though

[honest solar]

like do we have the true ending

new music would be cool

[twin apex]

the music is like the best part about this game

SGG if you're reading this message, please give me the full score for olympus aflame

[orchid acorn]

at 1.0 yes

at now, no. The game ends the same as it did at EA launch back in may 2024

feb 2025 for the surface run

[buoyant matrix]

squid game is NOT good for my anxiety bruh

how do i stay so calm in a 62 fear p3 chronos fight but can't handle these dudes playing goofy ahh games

[acoustic ruin]

well you just respawn back into the crossroads, they definitely dont

[buoyant matrix]

they should make squid games but with respawns enabled

would be funny i think

[acoustic ruin]

that would just be one of those "i regressed back in time to change everything" storys

[buoyant matrix]

oh god no

anyway my heart is doing the funny thing again i should drop it for today

[honest solar]

i forgot how much the content difference was for hades 1, idk if htats gonna be the same for now like hypnos and that asa butterfield kid

[buoyant matrix]

time to go watch valorant streamers get ragebaited

[orchid acorn]

not much gameplay content difference.

even less compared to h1, since we have all 6 hidden aspects already

We are expecting

• 2-3 keepsakes based on remaining slots and ingame support for 2 NPCs already
• a secret fight due to achievements
• story endings

Thats basically it

alongside balance and additional cosmetics

how much who knows

[bronze oak]

Im still holding out hope for some boon reworks like hestia legendary

[orchid acorn]

could be a surprise drop of stuff we have no way to expect breaking their roadmap text of no major content additions, could be even less than what i said and there are no new keepsakes. Could be literally just story and minor balance tweaks

[bronze oak]

Magick regen options are imba too

[slim pike]

Add in the ability to forge a bond with everyone else

[orchid acorn]

doesn't do anything, but yes that exists

[buoyant matrix]

the only magick regen I'd call "bad" right now is grisly gain

[orchid acorn]

unless they ball out and give us the companions from h1 we're missing

[indigo lava]

the ares one?

[orchid acorn]

no space in the keepsake cabinet for them tho

[bronze oak]

Agree but born gain is sm better than everything else it feels bad using other options

[slim pike]

no space on the controller either

[bronze oak]

I wish other things would be bumped up closer to its level

[slim pike]

no wait, do we use LB for anything?

[bronze oak]

Like how does Apollo regen stay nerfed in born gains current state

[buoyant matrix]

born gain is great but it's no longer as godly as before

[orchid acorn]

was it ever nerfed? it was only buffed afaik

[slim pike]

One big oar

[orchid acorn]

single digit regen while standing in cast is way worse than lump sum on expiring

[buoyant matrix]

there are quite a few situations I'd prefer another gain

[bronze oak]

It used to auto regen Magick when you stood in cast now its only after your cast finishes right?

[slim pike]

Also Lucid Gain is crazy good on any aspect if you have winner's circle, that's basically all it needs

[slim pike]

Yeah, but now it's a lump sum, a BIG one, and it ignores all mana cooldowns

[orchid acorn]

correct. And that was ASS. It didn't have the lump sum generation in the old version it was literally just worse tranquil gain back when TG was asscheeks

[bronze oak]

Winners circle makes tons of boons way better than they are. Feels bad never getting it tho

[slim pike]

it's very clearly better as it is than it was on release

[bronze oak]

Idk i remember taking it every run and never needing magick

[orchid acorn]

You could throw on the regen on the current version and it wouldn't be overpowered by any means

but it very clearly was an upgrade

[slim pike]

it also fought against using omega casts... and apollo's cast needed to be an omega

[twin apex]

they should bring back the original born gain that only primed like 4 magick at a time lmao

[slim pike]

you used omega cast, and you were stricken with mana regen cooldown for 2 seconds

EA had Born Gain and some other stuff idk who cares?

except special mention to OG Ionic Gain for literally making everything worse

[neat frigate]

Dawning on me that I can’t browse feedback channel when I’m bored anymore :(

[buoyant matrix]

shoutout to current ionic for being super underrated

[neat frigate]

Ionic is good but also the least fun

Imo

[buoyant matrix]

the #h2-for-new-players will soon become #h2-for-new-players

[slim pike]

If it didn't need an interact button press... it'd be soooo good

[orchid acorn]

lets be real. this channel will also be that

[buoyant matrix]

b-b-but that's g-grisly gain 🥺

[raven perch]

In fields . My only core boon is dem cast. This sucks

[neat frigate]

I hope not if we already have a channel for it lol

[buoyant matrix]

how does this happen

[slim pike]

It would be Reliable Gain

[buoyant matrix]

idk man i really like ionic on torches

[raven perch]

Im picky 😔 and also like none of the boons offered to me even with rerolls were good core

[slim pike]

I like how all of the gains work differently yet so many of them naturally reward having a higher mana cap

because it's so easy to make a regen system invalidate mana tonics

the passive regens of EA1 were so bad for this

[buoyant matrix]

ionic, born, and tranquil

which else?

[slim pike]

And all of the BIG lump sum ones

[buoyant matrix]

i guess flood?

[slim pike]

So Tough and Lucid

[orchid acorn]

yeah like go look at early EA mana boons, we have come a LONG way

shoutout to zeus mr "prime 70% of your magick, but you constantly regen magick"

[slim pike]

I already did!

it wasn't even priming 70% of it

it just multiplied your mana cap by 0.3

[orchid acorn]

damn

hesita was mid but also not worth it

-20% max hp but constantly regen

[neat frigate]

Getting that gain with vow of hubris would brick a build lol

[slim pike]

Yeah, it'd really suck if Zeus also had a boon that primed 50 Magick

[orchid acorn]

i mean you can prime debt so it doesn't really matter

[buoyant matrix]

some of the early boons were truly one of the design choices I've ever seen

[orchid acorn]

just reinforced early EA omegas being ass though

[buoyant matrix]

but that's what early access is for

[orchid acorn]

and hexes

and.... everything magick related tbh

[nocturne zenith]

early zeus seemed built around the idea of priming/losing access to magic. which was kind of odd in retrospect.

[orchid acorn]

priming seems like an undercooked concept same with elements and weather

[slim pike]

Old Spirit Surge causing a lightning strike on EVERY ENEMY every 3 seconds if you were below 10 magicka, including being primed out

[orchid acorn]

it never really went anywhere or had anything to work off of

[buoyant matrix]

it did that while having the old thunder rush

[orchid acorn]

like what if we had something that could unprime our magick as an option, like a dio boon

[nocturne zenith]

oh yeah it used to cost magic per bolt didn't it

[orchid acorn]

or scaled our damage with primed stuff

idk just feels undercooked

[slim pike]

yeah which then worked real nice with Power Surge

but now power surge is dancing the tango solo

[nocturne zenith]

agreed, but now power surge is a relic of old design that's never worth taking

maybe on torches with tons of attack/channel speed so you're firing constant omegas again?

[indigo lava]

genuine question here, is power surge really that different from heartbreaker?

[raven perch]

Still not worth it over other boons

[slim pike]

I have footage somewhere of getting a really cooked king's ransom build that had power surge, thunder sprint and double strike

[nocturne zenith]

but you need hermes and the right hammers for that and at that point it's just way too much investment for one boon

[orchid acorn]

as in?

[raven perch]

Power Surge is random hearthrobs are close quarters

[slim pike]

just basically connecting HV cables from heaven onto everything

[indigo lava]

meh, okay fair

[nocturne zenith]

power surge doesn't stack or give you the freedom to choose when to go in and apply the damage

[slim pike]

hearthrobs is based on total amount spent and has good support

[nocturne zenith]

also no duos to spawn more or whatever

[slim pike]

you can make power surge great if you pull mirrored thrasher

and cardio gain

[orchid acorn]

heartbreaker is still a mechanic that works off other boons and is still decent damage.

power surge is just a random single unit hit that doesn't really... do anything. I'd much prefer if it was like how that one old boon worked and hit EVERYTHING

[nocturne zenith]

forgot mirrored was a thing tbh

[raven perch]

Hearthrobs are also boosted with sunny disposition

[nocturne zenith]

random idea: would it be busted if power surge was changed to apply blitz on omega hit?

[slim pike]

Also Sunny D exists

[slim pike]

as an off-core way to do blitz? hrm

[raven perch]

I think I got a bug? I used up an Archaic Seal for an Ixion but then an Atlas Braid now has a 5 Guardian extendion

[nocturne zenith]

something like that yeah

or even just its own lightning bolt

[slim pike]

heartbreaker is a shadow of its former self though, heh

[nocturne zenith]

i'm thinking something in the neighborhood of cutting edge but make it zeus flavored

[nocturne zenith]

yeah i've seen that too. it reverts to chamber durations but doesn't update the display to actually say chambers (locations, whatever)

[orchid acorn]

yes actually, its horrible

• blitz would already be applied by the omega hit assuming you had the respective attack from zeus already
• blitz has a internal cooldown where the animation needs to play before it can be reapplied

so even for something like a spin2win, this would suck

[nocturne zenith]

elaborate. i can see how it would be redundant if your attack or special already had a zeus boon attached but blitz from a non-core source would enable you to apply two curses with one move (e.g. demeter attack + this)

also is the blitz icd really so long that it wouldn't run out by the time you re-channeled another omega?

[orchid acorn]

It would work for your entire omega, so if you were to spin2win, every hit would apply(or attempt to) blitz

in the case of just having it be a t2 boon that applies blitz for anything it has two issues

[meager garden]

I feel like it should do waves

I'm pretty sure spin to win only does like 1 wave? or maybe I'm misremembering

[orchid acorn]

1- its anti synergy with zeus'es own kit
2- it has precedent that they don't want to do that with apollo

[nocturne zenith]

dazzling display my beloathed

[orchid acorn]

i think thats more of a problem with posiedon, cause it has code to only work once per attack, and one omega attack is just like 8 hits in 1 attack

its why you can't splash that many people with axe iirc, unless that got fixed

[dusk fjord]

Speaking of Zeus, his Arc Flash boon was a major game changer when I fought the last 2 bosses on the surface.

[orchid acorn]

see above, its not really that big of a deal in most cases but the extra damage is nice

even for the stuff where it would be theoretically good, eg torch o-attack, the cooldown requiring the animation to play out is like once every 3-4 attacks instead of blitz>pop>blitz>pop like you'd want

[proud sparrow]

do we know if early access players get any exclusive rewards now/when it releases?

[orchid acorn]

the extra damage they gave it in unseen was really nice though

[orchid acorn]

not announced, but didnt happen in hades 1 either

assume no, the reward was seeing unreleased and cut content as it developed

bonecaps my beloved i miss you

[proud sparrow]

darn, would be cool to get a small badge

[proud sparrow]

thats true and not taking it for granted, though i got it late into early access

[proud sparrow]

whats this?

[orchid acorn]

old resource that was removed

only spawned in rain and gave you bones

[slim pike]

deathcap*

[orchid acorn]

aaaa i keep messing up the name 😔

[indigo lava]

I'm really sad that seemingly nothing happened with weather and moon cycles

I know the game isn't released yet but still

[bronze oak]

i would love for that to be expanded upon in 1.0

[proud sparrow]

oh why was it removed

[orchid acorn]

i hope so too

[orchid acorn]

officially, who the hell knows

Unofficially there was multiple feedbacks of too many resources in the game so it was likely just something fluff they could cut

plus it came at the same time as a mass system overhaul of resources more or less universally decreasing required amounts, removing psyche as a minor resource etc

[proud sparrow]

i guess that makes sense, if its only purpose was to give bones i see why

[dusk fjord]

I've been having this theory about Hypnos.

To wake him, we would have to fight ||Asterius and Theseus in Elysium||

[proud sparrow]

he wakes up?

[orchid acorn]

and.... why

[indigo lava]

the fated prophecies says he will

[raven perch]

Probably cuz of elysium contest

[orchid acorn]

and its a secret contest, ergo not something you're expected to do

yet there is achievements for hypnos as well

so ergo they aint connected

[indigo lava]

I disliked that fight in Hades 1, they were too tanky

[dusk fjord]

Hypnos is a fan of ||Asterius|| so, probably he would wanna see him in his full glory and stuff

[little frost]

the achievements aren't real it's a psyop by sgg to generate hype and theories obviously

to sell more uh

uhh

pyre

[dusk fjord]

Hypeness?

[normal mountain]

The grind is real in my new save 💀

[buoyant matrix]

minimalism is a scam made up by big small to sell more less

[orchid acorn]

not waiting for 1.0 is crazy 😭

[normal mountain]

Eh?

[orchid acorn]

if your gonna start a new save may as well wait till 1.0

[normal mountain]

I'm only like 28 nights in, I'm pretty much still at the start

[glossy shadow]

If I started a new run and was able to go absolutely hitless on the downward path, what would stop me on night 1? Like is there another wall effect besides blessing of strife?

[orchid acorn]

no.

[little frost]

I think it's fair given 1.0 is close em they prob won't get to late end game stuff before the update hits

[sharp cosmos]

28 w/ some Chaos Trials ?

I really dislike that Chaos Trials show in the stats resume, but ofc it doesn't count as a clear

[dusk fjord]

I did that with the Rogue Prince of Persia

[orchid acorn]

fresh file is literally a speedrun category homie and its fully supported to win night 1

Infact, you can even bypass eris curse

[little frost]

||(end each region before fountain at 30% hp or less)||

[orchid acorn]

30?

[little frost]

she triggers at 50%

[glossy shadow]

Does chronos have a comment about premature arrival?

[orchid acorn]

it should be 50 no?

[normal mountain]

I get burned out alot quicker than I used to, cause I rinsed it so much.. i do maybe one run or two then that's it, I just can't be arsed and I don't have the attention span that I used to have with it now.

[little frost]

but u want to check ur hp at the boss so you don't over heal at the fountain

[orchid acorn]

its a mixture of dialogue reused between your first meeting post hecate night 2/3 and the first time you meet him

so yes in the sense its unique dialogue, but no in the sense that its something you haven't heard before

"Who might you be girl" etc

[little frost]

timeline maintained

[buoyant matrix]

she appears at 50% hp, post boss fountain heals 20%, therefore finish the boss with less than 30% hp

[raven perch]

I just got a new (for me) dialogue where Chronos encourages Mel to go topside

[orchid acorn]

ah i understand now

[orchid acorn]

btw is it only post hecate or does she show after every region

[raven perch]

Every region but only once

[orchid acorn]

yeah for regular runs, but im talking in a single run

eg do i need to finish every boss <30%

[raven perch]

Ohh

[buoyant matrix]

yes

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-ok-gif-23395164

[little frost]

yeah

it's tough out there in ff land

[glossy shadow]

It never struck me that the post boss fountains might not be optional

[orchid acorn]

i don't even think i want to do a night 1 clear tbh

[little frost]

and they wonder why people don't run ff

[buoyant matrix]

honestly with how good i am at base chronos i may just bite the bullet and let her curse me in tart

[orchid acorn]

they aren't. you must take them

honestly

i might need to start doing runs at 0 frenzy

before i get pump faked by chronos at 1.0

[little frost]

he literally takes ages to charge up a single swipe in p1

[buoyant matrix]

I'm not turning off frenzy for 1.0

[glossy shadow]

I think being misattuned to the speed would be lore accurate

Grampa w the mixups

[buoyant matrix]

will turn off everything except hordes3 and frenzy2

[orchid acorn]

i mean for a new file you will forcibly have 0 frenzy

[buoyant matrix]

oh you mean ff yeah

hardest part of h1 ff was dodging dad spins

[glossy shadow]

With frenzy do you have less time to get in the safety circle during insta kill moves?

[buoyant matrix]

they're super delayed without forced overtime

[buoyant matrix]

yes

[glossy shadow]

Do boss invulnerables go away faster too?

[buoyant matrix]

i think so

[orchid acorn]

phase transitions yes, but actual invuln no.

just the invuln transition

[slim pike]

Tried to make a power surge build, got mirrored thrasher and power surge....

But also it was circe and I got a stupidly good cast build going instead, oops

[strange frost]

Lol

[elfin heron]

Really excited for hades 2 to be released on the switch.

[cursive kayak]

ok so would luckier tooth or knuckle bones be better for UR chronos

probably knuckle bones right?

my evil eye is currently on typhon

[nocturne zenith]

i'd say knucklebones if you're running strength, tooth if you're running death

[cursive kayak]

im running death so ill do tooth

thank you!

[merry whale]

prob pin

[cursive kayak]

my concern isn’t with the enemies it’s just with chronos

im only doing UR not any other fear

[merry whale]

fair, i still find 10sec buffer to be p solid but tooth works fine too

[cursive kayak]

that’s fair yeah

also hi red!

[merry whale]

hola 🦀

[orchid acorn]

pin is technically speaking a better skelly tooth if you are able to phase change chronos in time

since its just like 10 seconds of straight dps

[small zealot]

is ||typhon|| immune to scorch effects? i dont see any damage ticks

[merry whale]

typhon isn't immune to anything, just some effects like froth/scorch/freeze are completely invisible

[unkempt zodiac]

Imagine if he was. Hestia builds just completely crumble

[merry whale]

that'd prob brick every single scorch build in existence ye

i'm also somewhat certain that weakening typhon doesn't weaken the chin tails

[nimble inlet]

Let’s not claw anybody’s eyes or drown him to death please

[merry whale]

unless 90 damage at max pain is the weakened damage

[sharp cosmos]

But no :(

[dense light]

real question

nvm i was gonna make a silksong crashing storefront joke and say hades 2 is gonna do the same but i thought the joke through

[merry whale]

i doubt h2 has the cult following to do that but it'd be funny

it does seem to attract miserable twitter users tho

[dense light]

i think h2 does have like a good following but nowhere near the hype silksong did

supergiant didnt make us wait too long

[daring sun]

the flute in the cyclops battle is so intense

[abstract pecan]

We're down to single-digit days away from v1.0, guys...

Only one week & change.

[brazen ibex]

DARREN KORB
HAVE PIPE ORGAN IN THE STORY MUSIC
AND MY LIFE
IS YOURS

[thorn spear]

Finally bought Hades 2

[sharp cosmos]

Welcome to the club fella !

[haughty hill]

early access tends to prevent that - a lot of players will be trickling in up or otherwise purchasing but not playing until actual launch

[humble urchin]

if i’m not mistaken it’s 60 base, so 90 sounds about right?

[haughty hill]

which substantially diffuses the impact

[humble urchin]

actually if weak is 30% DR, it should be 84

[dense light]

hades 3 shadowdrop trust

[haughty hill]

(preorders also do this, silksong had neither)

[thorn spear]

Had to leave the one piece life behind since I finally have a job

[dense light]

hades 3 where you can play as arachne trying to escape the crossroads

Silksong what Hornet who?

[merry whale]

hmmm 🤔

[humble urchin]

max pain is 2x damage from base, right?

[thorn spear]

And i get paid in a currency that steam can actually use

[merry whale]

ye it should be x2 damage

[sleek oar]

Hades 3: Sliksong

[thorn spear]

So ofcourse I must support my favorite rogue like

Expedition 33+Silksong+hades 2 altogether cost $100

[sleek oar]

I think h2 is priced extremely correctly

Idk about the others, i didnt play 🤧

[merry whale]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-LeN_LVM_WgCSC_iLhgQ27jXx68vrV70?si=IVqOuJ834WCOdwqv this is the game clip btw

[raven perch]

Silksong is underpriced

[orchid acorn]

i'd say its worth about double. 35-40

frankly its more that most games are overpriced

that 69.99 jump was lol

[granite mauve]

Triple A 🤬

[sleek oar]

Peak may only be 8€ so idk if i can even complain about this, but that game crashes about 3 times per expedition

And it pisses me off so bad

[granite mauve]

80$ Mario Kart and 90$ donkey kong

[orchid acorn]

how 😭

[dense light]

donkey kong was actually worth imo

[orchid acorn]

i havent crashed a single time in peak

[dense light]

mk not so much i dont think

[orchid acorn]

nah thats overpriced too.

mario kart WOULD be worth if it actually had a singleplayer

[granite mauve]

even 60$ feels like so much

[orchid acorn]

donkey kong should be 49.99

[sleek oar]

Ive gotten like 8 different error messages by now 😭

Latest one is rendering not working and it force closes the application

[orchid acorn]

bro 😭

[sleek oar]

My laptop isnt the best i admit

But dawg, it runs most games pretty smooth, idk wht the issue is with this

[humble urchin]

i read wrong, it’s the chin tails which i’m just reading now.

yeah i think they do 45 base, so it seems like weak doesn’t apply to them

i thought you were talking about the chin/head smash

[rustic mesa]

H2 Sw2 edition is 70 bones CAD for the physical

Which also comes w the artbook

[merry whale]

ah gotchu

[elfin forge]

when is 25

[meager garden]

september 25th

[brave urchin]

8 DAYS TILL Hades 2 release 1.0!!!!

[brave urchin]

It does not??!

[dim kernel]

hades 1 2.0 tomorrow

[orchid acorn]

it has singleplayer in the sense that you can drive in an open world

or play vs ai, but its not like.... a campaign yknow

sandbox mode vs a campaign mode is what im getting at.

[meager garden]

I mean the last time it happened was like, MK DS though

and even before that it was never the case

[orchid acorn]

uh idk if your math is right homie

cause its like..... 9 days 5~ hours until 1.0

[indigo cypress]

Time zones exist 😭

[normal mountain]

I just say next week, easier lol

[orchid acorn]

except, no.

because its the exact same time for literally everyone

its not a localized release so time zones are irrelevant

[meager garden]

Hades 2 1.0 comes out tomorrow

I believe, this is it

[orchid acorn]

saying 8 days is setting yourself up for disappointment when your timezone in bufu egypt hits midnight the 25th and its still like 18 hours away

[normal mountain]

lol

I always get the update around 6/7pm my time

i'm around 8-9 hours ahead of cali

[indigo cypress]

Ugh if it drops midnight for me I'm staying up to read patch notes then immediately going to sleep

[normal mountain]

no you won't

you won't resist... you'll smash that play button and be going bed at 6am

[orchid acorn]

depends, what time is it literally right now for you

[normal mountain]

22:22 for me

[indigo cypress]

2:22 PST

[orchid acorn]

then it'll be like noon, you are literally their timezone

its not a midnight release

[indigo cypress]

Oh good

[orchid acorn]

give or take an hour or so

[normal mountain]

I wanna see

Hereceles (cut from game).. replaced with... zag. - ALL NEW KEEPSAKE. ZAG POWER. Gain an a red nuke that you can only us ONCE and instantly win an encounter (Guardians included)

[devout abyss]

that doesn't seem like a very good idea

[normal mountain]

It did in my head.

It's a dumb idea, but it made sense for at least a couple of seconds

At the very least, I'd like to see at least one more fancy game mechanic, even if it's minor.

[cursive kayak]

i think the most an extra game mechanic we’ll see is the cthonic companion equivalent

to me it would make sense if they did the cthonic companion equivalent for the people from the house of hades you rescue

granted that’s not like a guarantee, i just think that’s what it’s gonna be

[normal mountain]

or just kinda rework one already... like the dodge mechanic....everytime mel does a perfect dodge it slows time down very briefly.. similar to krato's realm shift in ragnarok

[cursive kayak]

i think the combat is pretty set in stone tbh

[normal mountain]

true

Flashing green when she dodges is good enough i guess lol

[short raft]

@orchid acorn https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/616845281140408355/1417624305537253438/image.png?ex=68cb2904&is=68c9d784&hm=de16b286849c8bb21d76589fff2b5c8fd18e963bd896c5cd3050483f8dd7aaee&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1420&height=769

As i said, you can backstab Typhon by facing backwards

[normal mountain]

is that UR typhon?

[proud lava]

That's so funny

Yes

[orchid acorn]

thats so weird wonder when that got added, used to only be possible with apollo

[normal mountain]

What weapon are you using?

[orchid acorn]

mel blades

[wise ledge]

I hate the spinning octopus miniboss with burning passion

[short raft]

Its not thata hard to proc either, just a good position while you put curser in the right place

AFTER SOME TESTING: His jaw is where is backstab spot is.

The side bone are specfically

[sharp nymph]

i know its probably not a big deal for u guys but was stuk on prometus for a minute , now i cleared up and down on + 8 this evening and got no1 else to be excited to lol

[orchid acorn]

gratz

[hasty ocean]

woot!