h2-discussion

[buoyant matrix]

my money is on sep 17th

[oak ivy]

ALL IN!!!

[buoyant matrix]

also today's three updates had some BEEG change numbers

[oak ivy]

though I'm also okay waiting until October because of (mods dont look!) ||silksong||

[molten obsidian]

tomorrow is the last time for some good marketing if the game is releasing this year 👀

[marsh spear]

What updates????

[oak ivy]

I dont think they need marketing honestly, they could just release it on their own imo

[limpid oar]

Friday release would be ballsy, so I kind of want sgg to do it

[oak ivy]

I assume pizza is talking about the steamDB stuff

[marsh spear]

Big if true

[buoyant matrix]

steamdb

[molten obsidian]

Testers have been playing the beta build 24/7 for tomorrow’s release ☝️

[oak ivy]

you're probably right!!!

I am trusting you

[buoyant matrix]

remember that the beta has been ready for 2 days

[oak ivy]

won't it feel really bad to be on the vacation knowing that both hades 2 and silksong are waiting for you? 💔

[buoyant matrix]

it does

but i have my moyai statue to comfort me

[oak ivy]

🗿

[hybrid gulch]

This server is going to implode if SGG doesn't announce anything during the direct and there's no news about H2 1.0 release on the horizon, lmao. So much certainty right now! But...still not technically guaranteed

[orchid acorn]

its fine i have borderlands 4 to play

[buoyant matrix]

no i won't implode because even if it's far off i still have skong

[little frost]

oh yeah is that today?

wonder if my puter will even be able to handle it lol

[orchid acorn]

performance improved from the day 1 patch apparently

[little frost]

I build it like 8 years ago with middle of the road parts back then

[oak ivy]

NOT UNTIL you finish Hollow Knight and Silksong!!!!!!

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/Ny8bk1u

[oak ivy]

Borderlands more like Bordermid

[little frost]

how big is the download

[orchid acorn]

65.6

[little frost]

zamn

still only half the helldivers 2 download size on pc lmao they need to optimize so bad

[solar pasture]

hades 2 is now a dlc for silksong and will be remade from scratch

[orchid acorn]

peak

[buoyant matrix]

wtf is that internet

[solar pasture]

play shinobi art of vengence also

[buoyant matrix]

where do you live

[orchid acorn]

wym

[buoyant matrix]

mine is 2 mbps on a good day

870 is insane

[orchid acorn]

idk this is kinda stardard to me

[solar pasture]

thats gig speed internet

[oak ivy]

Pizza has the slowest internet in the universe 🥀

[buoyant matrix]

privileged 🙄

[orchid acorn]

i am infact white

its my racial passive

[oak ivy]

american privilege 😔

[solar pasture]

i am skin

[orchid acorn]

heard there might be a balance patch soon for america idk

[oak ivy]

it's about time!!

[solar pasture]

i dont care ill be playing hades 2

[little frost]

im white and on a good day best I get is 5 mbps what's the deal

[orchid acorn]

your ancestors sinned

[buoyant matrix]

i never liked america anyway, too competitive + too many cheaters and griefers

[little frost]

so real

[solar pasture]

erm check your cable/router and make sure you're using cat5e???

make sure its in the right port too

[oak ivy]

I agree

[orchid acorn]

america has been the best server for years though, just needed to minmax your build

god help your spawn rng though

[little frost]

"minmax your build" bro it's all rng

[solar pasture]

getting weird in here

[little frost]

lol

[oak ivy]

I think Europe is very close too tbh!

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/joueur-du-grenier-no-fun-fun-fun-is-not-allowed-stop-it-gif-16558170

[little frost]

hades 2 silksong

[solar pasture]

what is your favorite hades 2 plant and why is it UGLY WHITE CHAOS PLANT

[orchid acorn]

eu is just classic server america

[buoyant matrix]

thalamus sounds like amogus so i like it

[marsh spear]

DEADLOCK

[solar pasture]

sorry i cant read, so i call it UGLY WHITE CHAOS PLANT

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mina-deadlock-deadlock-mina-spinosaurus-mina-spin-gif-382313845015838374

[oak ivy]

Mina is so cool.... 😔
I'm still tempted to get Deadlock just to play her

her design is so elegant and cool

[marsh spear]

I'm in love with the designs specially after the reworks

[little frost]

what did mina mean by this

[oak ivy]

she's taunting the enemies of course!

[marsh spear]

Im so gay for Lash

[polar abyss]

She’s playing charades and is representing a beyblade, obviously. /s

[little frost]

patiently waiting for vyper, yamato, bebop, and warden designs

[oak ivy]

I'm sorry but he's so ugly 😭

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-lash-lash-eyes-gif-1924787670886414749

[marsh spear]

I know

[little frost]

The Lash doesn't care what you think

[marsh spear]

LMAOOOOOO

[polar abyss]

You are competing against Viper and will lose.

[marsh spear]

Bro none can compete against her

[polar abyss]

Oh wait, we need to not do what the Silksong people did. Uh…… what is your favorite sound effect in Hades 2?

[oak ivy]

the sound effect of quitting the game 🔥

[polar abyss]

Actually, I got a better idea.

[solar pasture]

no you dont

[polar abyss]

Tier list who looks the best in Hades 2

[marsh spear]

Shiva aura sounds

[little frost]

orig damage noise is always a nice bonus to hear

[solar pasture]

s - all

[oak ivy]

Icarus S tier

everyone else is A tier

[polar abyss]

Where does Typhon rank?

[little frost]

the tierlist has 1 tier only

[oak ivy]

F tier for me

[little frost]

TYPHON INCLUDED

[solar pasture]

who is your favorite pet

[oak ivy]

Icarus 🥰

uhhh wait

[little frost]

my partner has typhon from h2 as a hear me out

[solar pasture]

you cannot say dora

[solar pasture]

unhinged

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-bonk-chew-mega-bonk-hitting-gif-26060616

[marsh spear]

"i got my eyes on you"

[oak ivy]

I deserved it 😔

[polar abyss]

Clearly Typhon is “attractive enough”

[solar pasture]

this reminds me of world of final fantasy for some reason. this is what the summons are like in that game.

[marsh spear]

True

[little frost]

horny bonking in hades games doesn't work

not our fault sgg made them all so hot

[polar abyss]

Even something like the Bawlder?

[solar pasture]

yeah its not sgg's fault either its greek mythology's fault

technically.

[polar abyss]

Then what we need to know is; what is the ugliest thing in Hades 2?

[oak ivy]

Typhon probably

[frank mulch]

Supay nerf

Idk I haven’t played in so long is that still cool and hip with the kids

[solar pasture]

oh dyno is here, my arch nemesis

[oak ivy]

Dyno 😔

[polar abyss]

Well there’s several nerfs.

And also yes

[solar pasture]

its typhon and it isnt even close

[polar abyss]

I disagree

[solar pasture]

ok then

[marsh spear]

Eris

Jk

[polar abyss]

I’m not saying Typhon is the prime example of beauty, but again; Typhon was considered beautiful to Echidna.

It is, shall we say, an acquired taste

[frank mulch]

more Eris for me

You can find beauty in nearly anyone and anything and it definitely is subjective

[oak ivy]

there is a lot of objectivity in beauty

[solar pasture]

i have a lot of questions but im gonna spare everyone and just keep them to myself...

[oak ivy]

simply because of how our monkey brains were programmed

[tranquil wren]

it varies by culture

[limpid oar]

that sounds like something Pronto would say

[orchid acorn]

no i def would not

[frank mulch]

There is absolutely no objectivity in beauty

if people follow a strict societal ideal, it’s a subjective one

[limpid oar]

my beauty standards are objective, everyone else's are subjective 🔥

[oak ivy]

I can say this confidently as someone majoring in art. Beauty is like 90% objective unfortunately.. the whole "eye of the beholder" thing is very overrated 😔

[polar abyss]

No it sounds like something Lilac would say. (Because she just said it)

[tranquil wren]

that's actually crazy

[oak ivy]

you can science a lot of it out yeah

[limpid oar]

lilac why are you majoring in art

[oak ivy]

because I'm very passionate!!

and willing to sacrifice my well being for it

[frank mulch]

I think children’s drawings are the most beautiful thing in the world. Caravaggio kinda mid and Picasso ugly

[tranquil wren]

lol

[solar pasture]

"caravaggio mid" what the actual

are you serious?

[frank mulch]

Picasso did notoriously ugly things and it makes me disinterested in his art

[frank mulch]

No

[tranquil wren]

true!

[limpid oar]

who's carpaccio?

[frank mulch]

No one it’s okay go back to sleep

[limpid oar]

it's 6pm

[oak ivy]

then we need to talk about semantics!! because what you're talking about here isn't beauty but more like personal attachment stuff honestly

and yes Picasso's late art was ugly because it wasnt about it being beautiful, it was more about it being experimental and making a statement etc

[frank mulch]

Nap time :)

[oak ivy]

picasso's early works were actually really really good

[frank mulch]

Picasso art is ugly because he abused women and made a stellar career out of it

[oak ivy]

he decided to deviate from it on purpose

[limpid oar]

I actually hate naps, they usually don't make me feel rested afterwards and I just struggle to fall asleep at night more than usual

[oak ivy]

ah ok 💀 I didnt know that

[frank mulch]

For real?

[oak ivy]

yeah

[limpid oar]

wait what? I haven't heard of this bit of Picasso lore

(I haven't heard any Picasso lore)

[frank mulch]

you’re majoring in art and you didn’t know that? I don’t mean this in a bad way

[tranquil wren]

I feel like as an art major you should maybe know that

[oak ivy]

I study the art itself not the biographies of people hahaha

[tranquil wren]

but tbf I went to a picasso museum

[oak ivy]

ehhh

[polar abyss]

Art Major =/= Art History Major

[oak ivy]

exactly!

[frank mulch]

Like I’m not being sarcastic or dismissive at all I’m jsut genuinely surprised

[solar pasture]

picasso is and always has been phenominal artist. his father was a bird watcher and would draw pictures of birds. piscasso, aspiring to be like his father, would draw pictures of birds too and surprised his dad so much with how well he could draw, basically quit because of it

[tranquil wren]

art is inherently tied in with its creators

[polar abyss]

But we can also see different values ourselves in the art, devoid of the creator.

[tranquil wren]

yea I never said you couldn't

[limpid oar]

in lilac's defense, the fact that her degree actually focuses on the art and not memorising biographies is pretty based of the college

[polar abyss]

Or perhaps she hasn’t yet been forced to take those classes.

[solar pasture]

art history is important though???

[frank mulch]

Well my cousin just told me he didn’t know the statue or liberty was originally shiny metal and not green so maybe I should ease up

[oak ivy]

ehhh not really... it doesnt matter at all for the purposes of finding a job at least

like AT ALL

[frank mulch]

And I’m sorry I’m not trying to attack anyone I really was just surprised

[oak ivy]

modern digital art has come a very long way and a lot of stuff from the past is sorta outdated

[oak ivy]

it's okay!! I didnt perceive it as an attack at all

[limpid oar]

birth dates of artists are standard interview questions trust

[oak ivy]

😭 jfc

[solar pasture]

erm it helps as experience for creating content that uses other work as an foundation/example. if you understand how other artists grew up and worked on the things based on their world, you yourself can reflect on those princinples and become a better artist

i mean you do you but im a graphid designer who finished college and have 20 years of experience on top of that

[oak ivy]

not really.... like I said, modern digital art is soooo different that any of the 19th/20th century stuff is very outdated

[polar abyss]

Ok I’m looking at the list of character images, and now I am not so sure which is the least pretty and most…

At-least named characters.

[oak ivy]

you get a LOT more value from studying modern artists

[polar abyss]

Bawlder and some of the spawns of Typhon are super ugly though

[oak ivy]

actually if you look at a lot of old paintings you'll find a lot of mistakes even that dont hold up to modern theory scrutiny

[solar pasture]

thats your choice i guess, the same principles exist. i dont see why its a waste of time at all

but then again i love art so whatever

[oak ivy]

specifically if we're talking about improving your skills

[frank mulch]

Who is your favorite modern artist

[oak ivy]

Yoneyama Mai probably?

[frank mulch]

Actually what’s the criteria for someone to be studied as a modern artist?

[polar abyss]

If I say Jen Zee, do I get early access to 1.0?

[oak ivy]

it would be a very long conversation hahahaha

[limpid oar]

you should say it anyway because it's objectively correct

[polar abyss]

True, but I wonder if there is a bonus

[oak ivy]

Jen Zee's character design skills are REALLY good but her art fundamentals honestly could improve

not flaming or anything though! like I love her art too

[solar pasture]

maniac

[frank mulch]

I don’t know about a calculated favorite right now but holly warburton’s art is so warm and beautiful that she was the first person I thought of

[polar abyss]

Common Lilac l /s

[oak ivy]

y'all dont realize how FAR some insane artists push their skills

like it's INSANE how good you can get at art

some of the best artists in the world are WAY too good and Jen Zee, despite being really good, is not quite that on THAT extreme level

[tranquil wren]

yeah but obviously few people attain that

[oak ivy]

it's hard to explain because it's a thing mainly professional artists can talk about because there are a lot of nuances

[oak ivy]

yeah true!

[limpid oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925113924855140417/1415745779917652010/thumbnail.jpg?ex=68c45381&is=68c30201&hm=3b1cc9bdd36d2be26d2e16b5944d7816d8b5519ea88e4832bd9b7c5ed5a3c2ba& this is the most artistic thing I've done in all of 2020s

[orchid acorn]

ANOTHER ONE LILAC

[oak ivy]

I'm right though

[frank mulch]

I think technical skill matters less than what emotions it evokes

[ebon oak]

I did it boys, haha!
#h2-victory-boasting message

[frank mulch]

I mean depending on what the goal is

[oak ivy]

yep I agree! but knowing how to evoke emotion is part of the skill too

[solar pasture]

i mean it depends on the level of room you're given to breathe and purpose. if you're a free artist who has a lot of money, time and space to make the things you want, it means you can do whatever you like. if you're making something fit for purpose, you're restricted to a particular "field of play".

[frank mulch]

and you make stuff for fun you could get interactions in the social medias and then life moves on except for one person who loves it so much and you may never know about but it means the world to them

[oak ivy]

the iceberg of modern digital art skill and fundamentals honestly goes extremely deep and it's very hard to express all the nuances in a single conversation 😔

[frank mulch]

I’m just saying stuff

[solar pasture]

what exactly do you mean though lilac?

ill be clear, im not trying to troll you. i jsut want to see what you're getting at cause im interested in your opinion.

[oak ivy]

after having a chance to talk to multiple professional artists I began to see how insane the competition is in terms of the fundamentals and skill level among a lot of digital artists out there!

they optimize the hell out of every single fundamental, carefully planning every shape, every stroke etc

amd Jen Zee's art is absolutely amazing, she's great, but she does not go to those extreme levels is what I mean
she's a bit more of a vibes artist which works well for hades!

[solar pasture]

fundamentals... you mean drawing a thing correctly and considering aspects of light and surrounding properly?

[oak ivy]

yeah basically

and aesthetics too, stuff like shape design and composition

[solar pasture]

oh

[oak ivy]

it's very hard to explain to someone with an untrained eye because it's extremely subtle

[limpid oar]

i was gonna troll but lilac is actually passionate about this so id feel bad if i did 😭

[solar pasture]

ok, well i understand now

[oak ivy]

😭 it's okay I know you to be a ragebaiter ❤️

[dusky mountain]

@oak ivy wtf where is 1.0

Give it

[oak ivy]

uhhhhh the 17th!!!!

[dusky mountain]

Ah yes, 5 years apart

[polar abyss]

Wait a minute…

[oak ivy]

happy to clear out any misunderstandings!!

[polar abyss]

17th… AD… Hades 2 was meant to be completed over 2000 years ago!

That is a really unfortunate development cycle…

[limpid oar]

when h2 was first in development, the greek mythology was considered sci fi

[scenic jungle]

We think we gonna see 1.0 trailer for nintendo tomorrow?

[solar pasture]

hades 2 will still have a shorter development cycle than star citizen too

[frank mulch]

it was not yet completed because of AD (attention deficit) despite development beginning at AD

[dusky mountain]

17th AD, but ancient Olympian calendar

[solar pasture]

incredible

[dusky mountain]

Not Gregorian time

[spice lintel]

I only have Hades 1 and I would like to know peoples opinion on the difficulty compared to Hades 2 . . . thanks

[oak ivy]

omg is THAT the meaning behind your nickname? 👀

[solar pasture]

its just as hard

[frank mulch]

I mean previously sg games had like… approximately 3 years in dev

[frank mulch]

Nope

[oak ivy]

oh damn..

[oak ivy]

will it be revealed in the true ending of h2? 👀

[limpid oar]

I find h2 easier, but maybe that's because Melinoe's toolkit really suits the way I like to play

[frank mulch]

Hades 2 is probably easier overall but harder to start

[oak ivy]

I agree!!

[dusky mountain]

Guys, has anybody ever ordered a T-shirt from the supergiant store?

[merry whale]

tru, i got stuck on scylla for like the first 15 nights

[limpid oar]

OMG PYRE 2 IN 2028 CONFIRMED

[polar abyss]

I also believe Hades 2 is easier, since there’s a lot more tools at your disposal, and the vows are generally easier than the pacts, but Surface route is much harder to clear for the first few times than Hades 1.

[scenic jungle]

I think Mel feels weird at the start but once you get into the flow shes so much smoother to play than Zagreus

[dusky mountain]

Yeah

[solar pasture]

pyre 2 will be about refereeing matches rather than playing them. it will be also called "umpyre"

[dusky mountain]

I played a bit of Hades1 recently and it feels so unsmooth after being used to Meli

[solar pasture]

🥁

[scenic jungle]

Kinda hoping next sgg game is a new ip

But it be cool to revisit a universe

[polar abyss]

Wait… what if we are the start of a reverse cycle.

[dusky mountain]

I have never played pyre bastion or transistor

[polar abyss]

I.e. Bastion -> Transistor -> Pyre -> Hades; Hades 2 -> Pyre 2 -> Transistor 2 -> Bastion 2

[dusky mountain]

Which one should I play?

[solar pasture]

play transistor first, then bastion, then pyre. pyre's really REALLY good, but it's also one of the most stressful games ive ever played (in a good way)

[limpid oar]

what did you like the most about hades?

[scenic jungle]

Transistor is probably the game I recommend the most out of their whole library

[oak ivy]

yeah I loved pyre so much specifically because of how you CANT replay the matches if you played them poorly...

it adds so much tension and actual stakes!!!

[frank mulch]

Transistor is the most specialest game ever

to me

[scenic jungle]

Its still my favorite in terms of music

[dusky mountain]

Smooth combat, build variety

[solar pasture]

yeah that and the fact that you kind of feel the pressure to make the right decisions all the time. its one of those games that i was thrilled to bits playing all the way through, but probably couldnt do it again

at least i got to be with my orb wife

thats what counts

[frank mulch]

you can lose every match and it’s still an amazing story. It is not mandatory to “get good” to enjoy it

[limpid oar]

out of the 3, Bastion has the most similar combat. in terms of build variety, I think they all provide that in their own unique ways

[frank mulch]

I did a playthrough of pyre where I was really mean to everyone and lost every match and ||turned down sandra|| and it’s honestly really painful

Maybe because I have involvement as a player unlike a preexisting character

Which is not to say being a set character with a “lack of player agency” in a video game is bad. It’s very good actually

[limpid oar]

Yeah, I think that's something very specific to Pyre and I loved that about the game

[frank mulch]

it just hit harder because I did that, when I had the option to be nice. Or not even make that choice to begin with

[spice lintel]

How would you describe the difference in gameplay?

[solar pasture]

actual monster in our presence

[frank mulch]

You didn’t ask me but I think it’s smoother and it is more rewarding to use every ability

[frank mulch]

At one point you get asked if you’re losing on purpose

I was

[solar pasture]

LMAO

[limpid oar]

Hades 1 was very much a hack & slash, hyperfast kind of gameplay. Hades 2 is a bit slower. Has more of a tactical feel to it with the emphasis on crowd control built into Melinoe

[solar pasture]

"and thats how i became a moderator of the SG discord"

[frank mulch]

I love the characters it felt bad to make them feel bad but I got to see a lot that I otherwise would not have seen if I was going for the Best Ending

[spice lintel]

Thanks that's what I was hoping for to be honest.

[limpid oar]

yeah the moment they showed she's a witch I was looking forward to the magic

[oak ivy]

saaame

and it did not disappoint!!

[solar pasture]

makes me want to try this now but man i could not do that to the characters like that, lol

[frank mulch]

Also personal opinion the music in h2 goes so hard I like most of it more than I did in h1. Where it was very good but not my genre

[frank mulch]

It’s worth trying just to learn more about them imo if they don’t leave you get to know them better

[solar pasture]

i feel inspired now

i may have to do this, feels bad though to screw them like that

[limpid oar]

I could just play on the highest difficulty and experience this unintentionally, as much as I love Pyre I am terrible at it 😭

[frank mulch]

River of flame is my favorite h1 track btw and honestly I think I’ve said a million times here what my favorite h2 track is… my friend was streaming yesterday and made fun of me for it bc she was playing and said that even though I really needed to go sleep at that point at least I got to hear it

Yeah I played on true nightwings so I lost every match and still got an achievement for it. So. Yay ez

[buoyant matrix]

I'm waiting for the next seasonal steam sale for the big discount on all older sgg games

bastion and transistor and pyre are all on speed dial 🤑

[frank mulch]

it will be great

It’s this month no?

[buoyant matrix]

idk

[frigid depot]

Prayers that Hades 2 will be mentioned tomorrow in the Nintendo Direct.

[oak ivy]

@frank mulch does saying "f***" count as a swear? Genuine question!!

[frank mulch]

I don’t know the context but if the intent is bypassing the swear filter then you shouldn’t say it

I guess if you already put the effort into censoring it, isn’t it easy to not say it at all?

[vast coyote]

Ice wine was pretty peak

Charon's purse (Cuz I like buying stuff) Moon Beam, and these days I take Knuckle bones or Evil Eye for 3rd location and Gorgon Amulet for last location

[dusky mountain]

Fig Leaf gang where

[vast coyote]

Moros Torches, My Beloved

Real.

[limpid oar]

ayo 2 devs online

[vast coyote]

I was a Ruthless Reflex Enjoyer myself, farming Near Misses made me feel like Neo

REAAAAAAAAL!!!!

[little frost]

tbh real

[abstract pecan]

Circe's Crystal Figurine for Region 1 on both routes (If you're lucky enough to draw Judgement, your run is looking pretty solid.)

Sword Hilt from Ares if I don't find him early (I've already lost count of how many times Blood Spree has saved me. Plus, I find his attack for the Umbral Flames and special for the Black Coat to be pretty powerful, even when common.)

Knuckle Bones from Odysseus for Region 4 (Reliable debuff on the Final Boss of the run is never a bad idea.)

[buoyant matrix]

ares special on coat is definitely one of the build choices i have ever seen

[dusky mountain]

How does doom even work

Can it stack?

[abstract pecan]

With what?

[dusky mountain]

Wait

I'm confusing it with H1 doom

What does H2 doom even do

[abstract pecan]

If you run out of HP, you have limited time to finish the encounter before you're returning to shadow.

[gritty vortex]

initial burst of damage with a 3 second cooldown per enemy

[dusky mountain]

No I meant the curse from Ares lol

[dusky mountain]

So a mini heph?

[gritty vortex]

sure

[merry whale]

it's weird cuz it applies "wounds" as a status effect that does nothing

[dusky mountain]

On what weapons would you even take that? Does the damage scale with AD?

[dusky mountain]

Origination tho

[merry whale]

having to invest into a t2 boon just to make wounds do a thing kinda sucks

[gritty vortex]

well ares gives the initial damage + baseline percentage

[merry whale]

ye the init damage is p good

[gritty vortex]

i mostly just use wounds for the duo

[buoyant matrix]

it's a curse called wound. the move that applies wound has +50 power when doing so

[dusky mountain]

But if that's a static 50 then it doesn't even matter which weapon you use it on ?

Meaning it doesn't synergise with anything

[buoyant matrix]

it's always a +50, whether you take it depends on the rest of the run and what you have

the small +% additive it gives is also neat

[dusky mountain]

I'm just thinking of which aspect do I actually want Ares on attack or special

[buoyant matrix]

well it's good on anubis special

[dusky mountain]

Or basically anything that I also use heph one?

[gritty vortex]

its used for medea sometimes

[buoyant matrix]

oh yeah since medea has a built in +% boost the wound buff is significant

[gritty vortex]

but realistically the only reason to go wounds is for grievous blow or the duo

theres better options in either direction (percentage or +power) instead of going in the middle

[urban topaz]

Do not confuse with MF Doom (or Doctor Doom)

[merry whale]

the other reason i get wounds is if i want the 200% t2

[buoyant matrix]

yeah that's grevious blow

[gritty vortex]

thats grievous blow

[merry whale]

ah i got confused w diff boon mb

[dusky mountain]

I always thought you take Ares for the legendary and plasma

I never knew grievous blow was so Good

[hasty ocean]

Plasma is meh, Grievous Blow is amazing

[gritty vortex]

plasma is really weak after the nerfs and how much plasma (and boons) you need to stack to get a reasonable benefit

[dusky mountain]

Well TIL

[merry whale]

prob, plasma's just really not worth investing cuz u need to invest a lot into it to make it work in the first place

[dusky mountain]

Maybe I'll take him once

[dusky mountain]

I tried hel with it for machine gun

[gritty vortex]

grievous blow is basically artemis pressure points except like 3-4x as likely if you squint hard enough

[dusky mountain]

It was meh tbh barely noticed it

[merry whale]

im p sure for some weapons plasma doesn't do anything

[dusky mountain]

Oof

[fathom lake]

Hel its so EHhhhh

realy dont like it

[supple nymph]

if i have 1dd going into fields should i take pin? doing 50f

[dusky mountain]

no i like Hel, the Ospec is amazing

it also looks dapper

[buoyant matrix]

are you running rivals4

[supple nymph]

only rivals 3

[limpid oar]

go for it, echo scam isn't real

[supple nymph]

aight bet

[dusky mountain]

scam isn't real..... isn't real... real

[supple nymph]

got the dd replenish from echo, scam isnt real!

now i got 3dds going into tartarus, 6 minutes left, should i keep the pin or take skelly? r3 so no rivals chronos

[sour flower]

i thought ares zeus duo was super cool. until i realized zeus has the only fkn revenge boon out of all of them

[polar abyss]

If I am being honest; it should not matter what keepsake you take. Non-rival bosses should be covered down asap when pushing.

[supple nymph]

i kept the pin and finally beat underworld 50f 😭😭😭 im in peace now

[polar abyss]

Nice! What aspect?

[merry whale]

ye zeus and apollo r the only ones w revenge boons lolol

[supple nymph]

medea, surface 50f was a cakewalk with morrigan

[sour flower]

oh apollo has one as well? thank god

[supple nymph]

its crazy broken lol

[polar abyss]

If you want, you could do it again.

Or push 62.

[supple nymph]

unseen ire and visceral impact technically count as revenge boons

[supple nymph]

no thanks 😭

[polar abyss]

But what if you got Charon 50 clears in both routes?

[supple nymph]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852833387030380546/1415783644152467637/image.png?ex=68c476c4&is=68c32544&hm=9159a0fb866e490fb76152e5f25943fb79cfa3c2a8f18411fb92f14a42f9eeb4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=897&height=505
love to see it

[supple nymph]

i love charon but i just cant seem to do well enough with it on high fear

rn im just gonna do all aspects 32f since i have a few runs left then i might do charon 50f

[polar abyss]

How many are left?

[supple nymph]

i think 7-9 runs in total

[polar abyss]

**me personally, I have a lot left, because I don’t like Surface. I have a single 32 clear left in UW, but like 16 or more in Surface

[supple nymph]

theres mel coat surface, selene both, pan both, eos both

[supple nymph]

i prefer surface only cause i can get a build online easily (and cause i despise unrivaled hecate)

[polar abyss]

My main problem with Surface is I want to do 50 clears with Rivals maxed, but I hate Rival Prom and Typhon

I’ve done several 32+ clears, but only 1 up to 50

[hybrid gulch]

I did 8 fear UW last night for the first time, didn't die 💪

[smoky rover]

congrats

[sleek oar]

Wow guys crazy that theyre announincing h2 release date tomorrow haha

[sour flower]

is rivals eris using an aspect of the rail from h1?

and damn my first impression of her rivals fight is that it completely trivializes her 😭 she does absolutely no damage lol

spam alert spam alert

hide ya grandmas

[crude dragon]

<@&456908176877551658> Crush its skull

[short raft]

Wtf is that? their profile is literally made to be hidden wtf

[crude dragon]

Thank you

[stable flame]

Yup

[hybrid gulch]

lol what the heck was that

[crude dragon]

Spambot

[sour flower]

which one? been a while since i played

[hybrid gulch]

weirdly never seen one of those pop up like that

[stable flame]

Lucifer, the hidden one

[sour flower]

ahh thats right

tyy

[crude dragon]

Also why her epithet in Rivals mode is Lightbringer

[uncut galleon]

lucifer is an old name for venus, the morning star and lightbringer

(venus as in the planet, not roman aphrodite)

[sour flower]

what is epithet

[crude dragon]

It's a title said after a person's name. Like Chronos, Titan of Time

[sour flower]

ohh TIL, i didnt notice hers changed in the rivals fight thats so sick

my favorite part of these games has to be the details like that, and the character interactions

[crude dragon]

Yeah, goes from "Strife Incarnate" to "The Lightbringer"

[buoyant matrix]

scylla boss name also changes with UR

[crude dragon]

As does Hecate's
And Cerberus

[sour flower]

oki im leaving now before i get spoiled o.o

[buoyant matrix]

@oak ivy i watched the gimp guide, ETA until the creation of promewtheus: 8 days

i actually learned what layers do and how to move stuff

[kindred shard]

hades 2 tomorrow

[uncut galleon]

none of the boss names change through dialogue so far, do they?

[kindred shard]

nah

[sleek oar]

I fear promewtheus

Lowkey i never got used to gimp tho

[crude dragon]

Uh-Oh

And technically, your first encounter with Cerby calls him Infernal Beast

[buoyant matrix]

as one should

[icy blade]

Does anyone know if the prerequisites for trial of the moon have changed? I have everything listed on the wiki done and it's still not appearing

[vital pine]

Just dug something up in Oceanus (Narcissus' chamber) and wasn't paying close attention but got pushed back and a splash of blood appeared on the ground. I might've taken 1-2 damage as well. Huh?

[sour flower]

seedling, rare enemy in underground

[elfin heron]

this game has so many gorgeous twinks

[sour flower]

i have the biggest crush on icarus i am praying he comes to the crossroads one day so i can bathe with him (pls nobody tell me if that actually happens)

[vital pine]

saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

(I also don't know if it happens or not)

(just, mood)

(though I will say there was a conversation about ||flying with him|| and I'm so hoping that happens)

[sour flower]

broo i figure its just a convo but it would be sooo cool if it happened somehow

[broken glen]

How do they manage to make everyone hot. haven’t missed ONCE

[elfin heron]

dio not my type

[sour flower]

well... idk about you.. but typhon isnt that attractive imo

[broken glen]

h2 dio is scary but that’s kinda intentional

[sour flower]

how is dio scary LOL

[elfin heron]

the character art for everyone is gorgeous tho

[elfin heron]

did you do the wordle like 5 days ago

[sour flower]

i did not but i just searched it up LMFAO

[raven perch]

You’re wrong but I forgive you

[raven perch]

What is it

[broken glen]

Have you seen h2 dio? He’s clearly trying to down out all of his thoughts with alcohol

[raven perch]

What thoughts

[broken glen]

He does not look healthy

[sour flower]

pitiable maybe i wouldnt say scary

[raven perch]

He’s uncomfortable

[broken glen]

I wouldn’t wanna be alone with him

[sour flower]

bro is mr perfect

90% of people i know are drowning out their thoughts with a vice LOL

[sour flower]

honestly i agree now that i think about it

[elfin heron]

now that you twink about it

[broken glen]

Speak on that

[raven perch]

Typhon sexy

[vital pine]

H1 Dio was rad, one of my favorite gods. H2 Dio, yeah, I'm not comfortable around him.

[sour flower]

eh, i get where you guys are coming from but id still trust him over poseidon any day

but im lowk a freak irl so i guess thats just me

[vital pine]

I mean I'd trust anyone over Zeus myself, but that doesn't mean I'm comfortable with all the others lmao

[broken glen]

snea snar

[sour flower]

i guess theyre just all terrible LOL

[vital pine]

I feel like that's somewhat the point of the game tbh

[sour flower]

anyone else strongly committed to only picking hera first whenever shes in a double boon room?

[vital pine]

I'm waiting to see what they actually do with it endgame wise

[sour flower]

definitely. even melinoe says things sometimes that give me pause. i REALLY admire the writing in this game, staff cooked

[broken glen]

Heph and Hestia are probably the only ones I would be ok hanging out with, and they’re both the “weird” ones

Artemis is ok too

[sour flower]

im so excited to see what they do

[vital pine]

I'm strongly committed to snubbing hera in family dispute rooms lmao. Hephaestus is my dude, how dare she throw him off the mountain

[broken glen]

I never take Poseidon, not because I hate him, but because his lines for being rejected are so funny

[sour flower]

she threatened me one time so like the weak willed mutt i am i got bullied into always picking her first

[broken glen]

Especially on repeated occasions

[sour flower]

real

[vital pine]

I'm waiting to give full judgement until they follow through. I've seen a few too many stories set up incredible arcs like this and then fumble in the last act. I'm PRETTY sure they'll manage it but I'm still just a bit nervous haha, partly because we're just still not sure how they're going to incorporate the post-credits cycle to let the game continue

[broken glen]

He’s always so flabbergasted

Hilarious

[vital pine]

They kinda all threaten you lmao

Anyway I've uh. Distrusted? hera since I was a kid so

[broken glen]

Does anyone like Hera?

The only time she’s ever been nice to me is after I’ve done a romance (and she got excited about marriage and kids n stuff)

[sour flower]

omfg my dumbass JUST realized the thematic link between hera and the status effect her boons give you

[vital pine]

I mean I like H2 Hera better than H1 OE Hera but H1 OE Hera was just like. Entirely about envy, jealousy, and greed

[broken glen]

Why isn’t there an emoji of the heat/fear skull?

[polar abyss]

Good news: There is!
Bad news: it’s in the SGG supported speedrunning discord, so if you don’t have nitro, you can’t use it here.

[vital pine]

okay but followup question: why isn't there one here

[polar abyss]

I don’t know

[frank mulch]

what emoji is it

[broken glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960590442141991042/1415851123281231963/IMG_7161.webp?ex=68c4b59d&is=68c3641d&hm=1498b95891dc69f4370a2e1754651b1f0e6c88877e27bdd01392f7b206eef5b4&

something like this

[short raft]

Ok, i got apollos talent with Blackcoat, why is SO not shooting more missiles?

[polar abyss]

Cause it’s bad. The charge only does the minimum charge iirc, and the missiles shoot out 2 more missiles.

The price of 20 extra magic is not worth it at all unless it’s for a Hex farm strategy I guess

[short raft]

....man

[vast coyote]

AThena's a real one, 'nuff said

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/987496174636380160/1415860055479292044/image.png?ex=68c4bdee&is=68c36c6e&hm=bccbb6b92c8597de8f52a91f3b9708b1f33fbae90fa6c7535bb6d4358ef72fd7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1605&height=902 Manifested.

[lyric matrix]

Oh dear...

I think tomorrow is the day!

[vast coyote]

Athena's why I won that Heracles x Prometheus team up, holy...

Two seperate health bars? Crazy. Fun fight though

Just hate that Heracles can attack me while Prometheus is doing his memory game but I'll get used to it.

[merry whale]

ye thankfully heracles has simplified attack behavior during that phase

[little mason]

Heracles is just a 2nd rate minataur from hades 1

[vast coyote]

Yep, glad he's just a meathead.

Gonna be rough with Strength tho, but I'll have to adjust

[civic gorge]

Does anyone know if Frinos ought to be spelled Phrinos..?
Playing in English, words like fate and flames are obviously fine, but maybe to keep the ancient greek theme, names like frinos can be phrinos.
I've kinda been wondering and put it in the feedback channel earlier, but not sure if anyone agrees... It's not important but just fun like chlam and chrab

[orchid acorn]

idk google tells me its based off of Frýnos

[oblique walrus]

does anyone know how you unlock selene's locked heart? Ive done quite a few runs with her aspect and I still can't get it to unlock. Unsure if I have to do something in particular or she is just way behind on dialogue.

[sour flower]

speaking of selene, how do yall like her black coat aspect?

[lyric matrix]

I don't remember if you can max out her relationship or not.

[raven perch]

Gotta max out her coat aspect then talk to her with it on

[oblique walrus]

its been maxed and she refuses...

guess I just need to keep talking to her she probably has dialogue que'd up like I thought

[vast coyote]

Feels bad to me but that's probably because I prefer Nyx and don't find the moves that useful

[oblique walrus]

yeah i prefer nyx or mel's aspect honestly but eh I love the coat regardless

[vast coyote]

Coat is very cool and very fun

[oblique walrus]

did one more surface run to unlock that reset seed boon cause I was at 6 typhon drops

cause I have a strong feeling they are gonna annouce 1.0 during the direct tommorow maybe

[indigo cypress]

Selene was at its worst when Godsents first came out, but the fixes Patch 11 make it feel worth using

Only issue w Selene is if you don't get Prism and instead get the other sublime it's kinda ass

Def the hardest coat to play tho

[oblique walrus]

I just wanna stop being forced to use it over other aspects is all

I think I just need selene's and heracles' hearts unlocked at this point.

ive beaten rivals promethesus a few times but he has too much to talk about so it hasn't popped yet i guess lol

kinda just waiting for full release at this point while I playh silksong

[prisma crow]

Does aspect bonuses like Thanatos axe speed and things like Apollo's chance for double strike affect both attacks and Omega attacks? Or just normal attacks?

[lyric matrix]

Depends on if it says "Attack" vs "Attacks"

Attack does not include Omega and Attacks does

[prisma crow]

Thanks

[vast coyote]

Wait, you can reset the seed without dying? How?

[oblique walrus]

theres a very late incantation you can unlock I think it requires beating both chronos and typhon... I wanna say 5 or 7 times

it takes 7 of each of their drops

[vast coyote]

Oh damn, thanks

[oblique walrus]

it lets you "kneel" at the scroll of night to RNG the seed

i wanted to get it done before the maybe update since they are nuking all typhon and chronos mats when 1.0 drops

cause assumidly otherwise you'd be able to unlock those incantations without having to talk to them a few times first and the ending would be jarring for people that stockpiled them ig

[little frost]

i believe its called acceptance of another fate or something

[oak ivy]

it's called "acceptance of the fact that 1.0 will never come out"

😔

[little frost]

maybe if ur an august believer

[oak ivy]

ouch

😔

[little frost]

sorry that was mean

[oak ivy]

no it's okay hahaha

I am an adult and I was fully aware of my actions back in August 😔

[potent relic]

One more sleep until 1.0 comes out tomorrow

[little frost]

new month new lilac its okay

[marsh spear]

Good morning y'all

It's probably the day

[merry whale]

the 1.0 dream,,

i literally just got more arachne progression dialogue today

she was like "talk to hecate she's sus"

ig i didn't have to randomly luck into talking to arachne at crossroads cuz i kept forgetting to check

[marsh spear]

Everyone is Sus tbh

[merry whale]

tru

[uncut galleon]

if i have arachne on full hearts (as of current game ver), did i already have her crossroads interactions or is that just whst allows it to trigger?

not sure if i didn't get them yet or i just forgot

also, nintendo direct in 6 hours🌖

[kindred shard]

Hades 2 TODAY

[weary axle]

I BELIEVE

[proud lava]

NO COPIUM NEEDED

[slim pike]

Hey if you're not using it, hand it over

I need a good huff of copium

[icy blade]

I vaguely trust that narcissus doesn't have ulterior motives

[hallow vault]

Im on copium

Could be Shown Early af too

Since its for both Plattforms

[limpid oar]

If they're going for a Friday release they will want to at least do it early

[hallow vault]

That game will be the 4th Most sucesfull Indie of thus Year

Idk maybe even 3rd

Schedule one and Peak are big

[limpid oar]

Idk maybe even 1st

[kindred shard]

Both content games tho i dont doubt peak is huge but schedule 1 is NOT beating Hades 2

[deep schooner]

hi guys i am new to server , when do you guys think the game actually get out of early access and launch it

[icy blade]

nobody knows

could be in a few hours or in a month or two

[slender cedar]

hey, has anyone else been feeling like movement in h2 got worse with this update? or is clunky? maybe its just me moving to higher fear but i feel like i get stuck in animations and dashes feel delayed. could fully be skill issue but did not feel this way a few months ago

[glossy shadow]

Ares plasma may be my #1 cause of death

[glossy shadow]

It feelsike there's a little bit of damage stagger? Like 10% of a chaos bane?

[slender cedar]

Rival Cerberus I feel like I’m moving through molasses

[rich quiver]

can you see it? can you hear it? can you feel it???

is it coming? is it coming this way???

[tender river]

i think it's launching soon

[deep schooner]

ty guys

[sleek oar]

What time is the direct

[bright fern]

in 4 hrs

[sleek oar]

We BELIEVE

It is IMMINENT

Always remember; hope is one letter away from cope

[covert badge]

imagine they drop the Hades II release date and it’s like
Coming soon… exclusively on Switch. all PC licenses revoked. no refunds.

just to spite everyone asking when’s the release date

[buoyant matrix]

in only 4 hours they will announce the release date of september 17th!! 😃

[sleek oar]

Exactly !!!!

[weary axle]

Happy release day yall 😄

[buoyant matrix]

it's not today

because i can't play until next week

[junior hollow]

Btw it’s not exclusive on switch

[buoyant matrix]

yes he knows he was joking

[junior hollow]

People keep saying it’s exclusive for switch

[junior hollow]

Yea I relised lmao but some people think it’s true

[rocky lava]

Today is the day

[verbal rampart]

(Everyone is going to be so mad if today is not the day)

[buoyant matrix]

I won't be mad because i know today only the release date will be announced

[sleek oar]

Its friday no way it actually drops today?!

[buoyant matrix]

yeah exactly

[modest valley]

did someone now when is the next update because they say late in summer but there is nothing ...

[buoyant matrix]

they never said late in summer, they never said anything actually

it was just revealed to me in a dream that they will announce something today at the nintendo direct

[elfin forge]

in the realease chronos is actually going to win

[proud sparrow]

What rooms stop occurring when your turn on the timer for your fear?

[buoyant matrix]

none

every room is available both with and without timer

[hearty idol]

i'm believe in october or november gang

[vagrant mauve]

Silksong

[hearty idol]

when you silking the song but enemies eat your 2 health bars

[sleek oar]

I’m believe in today gang

[proud sparrow]

Oh that's neat ty

Is there something that makes it near impossible to get an atk/sp boon when you already picked one of the other before? Sometimes i get runs where i get a special boon and then wont give me attack boon until like 30 encounters later

[limpid oar]

Wait so is it getting released on other consoles too

[junior hollow]

Probably not straight away hades 1 took a year to release to consoles but it’ll probably be less then a year since supergiants got a lot more funds I’d guess

But it will release on switch and pc on day 1

[tight wren]

i just know that the release date is gonna be announced at the direct but i just can't prove it

[uncut galleon]

Time will tell

[buoyant matrix]

you take the reroll corner to avoid that

the 4 cards in the bottom left of your arcana

[proud sparrow]

Ah yeah true that, thanks

[stuck horizon]

anyone know how Cut Above interacts with Anubis omega attack? Does it trigger on every pulse or just the first?

[buoyant matrix]

the sword is like blitz, you can't apply more than 1

it should reapply after the first one falls

[stuck horizon]

if you have the ares heph duo that makes it drop instantly can you make it trigger on every pulse?

[proud swift]

Hello everyone are we all high on copium today?

[verbal rampart]

[sniffing sounds] How did you know? [more sniffing sounds]

[limpid oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925113924855140417/1411411027484217354/image.png?ex=68c50933&is=68c3b7b3&hm=6ff9c5a09737475040b9f9c116467fd343ebe5d6c5cff57bd72710207d14c464&
???? Anyone know what this update is?

[weary axle]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[visual hawk]

ALL IN ON 1.0

[stuck horizon]

I did a run to test it out and yes, yes you can

[hearty idol]

integrity update?

[verbal rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-gif-7862813030606789338

[merry whale]

undertale blue

[proud swift]

Most certainly we shall get news today as long as we believe.

[limpid oar]

It's too big for that i think

[verbal rampart]

I currently have no access to Steam, can you please tell me if this is the thing?

[limpid oar]

Idk it's got to download first

[merry whale]

nah undates your update

[proud swift]

I have no new patch available on Steam.

[hearty idol]

i restarted my steam no updates for me, you've been chosen as the beta tester

[golden solar]

Downdate

[limpid oar]

We going back to patch 1

[proud swift]

Only people with 100 clears on each path get to play the update today!

[limpid oar]

Time to play old Momus

[golden solar]

Old Pan

With pos specifically

[merry whale]

i legit don't know if i even have 100 clears combined

[supple nymph]

does mega blaze affect eos daybreaker?

[verbal rampart]

I literaly have 4 clears combined. 4. 100 clears feels like being a pro-gamer

[limpid oar]

I'm definitely nowhere near 100 surface clears, on UW I maybe do have that

[proud swift]

Once you get your first clears the game starts getting really consistent on low fear.

[verbal rampart]

How many nights did you people play? I'm barely at 50

[limpid oar]

I think I'm past 2k already

[supple nymph]

660 nights, most of them are 50f fails xD

[stuck horizon]

~400

[elfin forge]

how do you keep enjoying the game, its literally the same thing affter a while, when youve tried all the weapons

[merry whale]

past the 1000 mark

[supple nymph]

fear challenges? different builds?

[merry whale]

you put on 62 fear and fight for your life

[supple nymph]

speedruns?

[elfin forge]

fear challenges are just cheap changes except for rivals, need more content, builds are 1 or 2 for each weapons the rest is not that optimized

maybe its me alone but i dont like being weak in games i like a challenge but i have to be strong as well dont like all the handicaps

[supple nymph]

if you like a challenge do 40f~

[merry whale]

there's so much build variety tbh just disable the reroll corner and let the wind take u to discover new builds

[supple nymph]

not as bad as 50f and not as easy as 32f

[limpid oar]

What fear have you completed? You don't need to take the vows that significantly nerf you until you go into the 60s

[elfin forge]

well extra fears makes you weak

[supple nymph]

well thats kind of a skill issue

[merry whale]

am i being ragebaited rn

[proud swift]

A lot of the Vows don't make you weak, they make the enemies stronger.

[haughty hill]

there's only a few vows that make you weaker, yeah

[elfin forge]

skill=/= grinding and playing on edge

[proud swift]

The Vows that weaken you are usually the least fun though I must say.

[limpid oar]

Oh right yeah kaser is a known ragebaiter, i forgot mb

[haughty hill]

and yet there are people who can clear 50 fear every try

oceanus fangs arbitrarily killing you instantly sometimes aside, anyway-

[supple nymph]

the only vows that make you weak are void and forfeit lol, denial is free fear since u get certain boons more easy and scars is also not noticeable unless you do scars 3

[merry whale]

mint condition

[elfin forge]

if you spend a significant amount of time of course you will be able to, i dont like that

[supple nymph]

u suck buddy plz stop

[haughty hill]

'I don't like that skill requires time and effort' can you read what you are typing

[supple nymph]

worst bait oat 😭😭

[haughty hill]

Debt is enormous

[elfin forge]

yeah, grinding is a chore, i like things that take smartness not reapeated tries

[elfin forge]

bro i dont need your opinion stop replying pls

[supple nymph]

on surface yes

[haughty hill]

how many years have you spent in school

[supple nymph]

ur bait is ass

[proud swift]

Vow of Void being only 5 fear is certainly something.

[haughty hill]

No, even on the underworld it loses you boons or other rewards

[elfin forge]

see, thats the issue, you're comparing school to game, which makes me relize you enjoy chores

[haughty hill]

You either can't get two shop boons per region or you're taking gold rooms

[elfin forge]

seriously stop replying find a hobby

[haughty hill]

have you ever tried playing sports lmao

[supple nymph]

its manageable, debt on surface on the other hand

[elfin forge]

i have a six pack

[supple nymph]

a six pack of fries

[haughty hill]

what does that have to do with what I asked

[elfin forge]

come to private ill show you

[tranquil wren]

lmao

[elfin forge]

and stop coping

[haughty hill]

I'm not into dudes btw so while your interest is slightly flattering I'll have to say no

[sleek oar]

Yall are kinda just pointlessly throwing insults at each other ngl

[limpid oar]

Hades 2 isn't a sport, clearly you're a sweat and your opinion should be disregarded

[elfin forge]

yes basically i enjoy sports

[supple nymph]

woah, are you gonna show me your naked body on dms? thats literally sexual harassment

[elfin forge]

dont have to be naked lmao, 0/10 bait

[haughty hill]

If some 5'0 pudgy kid got mad at you because they need to practice and drill to be good at football what would your reaction be

because that is exactly what you are doing here

[supple nymph]

his bait is working im ngl

[elfin forge]

again thats the issue, game is supposedly fun not grindy thats what i want to reach

[supple nymph]

chat got infuriated cause of this dude

he won guys

[haughty hill]

you can stop playing whenever you want

[haughty hill]

wdym I found entertainment for my lunch break

I'm off in 5-10 minutes got nothing better to do in the meantime

[elfin forge]

yea i do, i wasnt complaining just saying my opinion

[limpid oar]

Omg hi I'm on my lunch break too, what are you having

[stuck horizon]

I tabbed out to beat chronos' ass and now everyone's angry what happened

[limpid oar]

Other than salt

[haughty hill]

I am eating the last of yesterday's bread with cheese

[hearty idol]

ayo i just got back, and now what tf happened n here

[haughty hill]

sports are also fun but you wouldn't expect to be instantly good at them without 'grinding'

[verbal rampart]

Nyx #1 Fan has an update but we do not know what it is

Also, strife is in the air

[tranquil wren]

no one else has that update as far as I can tell

[stuck horizon]

god damn it eris not again

[limpid oar]

Eris approves.

[elfin forge]

tldr, i was just stating that handicaps arent that much fun and dont offer much content, i enjoy difficulty by making the game change and bosses stronger in a unique way, not by handicapping my self lol

[haughty hill]

Rivals, Fangs, Frenzy, Time

[uncut galleon]

there was an update yesterday according to steamdb

[haughty hill]

turn the first three of those to max and set the last to whatever time's comfortable for you without being too easy

it's an entirely different game, have fun

[uncut galleon]

no wait that was in july haha

[haughty hill]

add Hordes too if you enjoy room clearing and wanna experiment with aoe builds, but it may force you to drop Time

[tranquil wren]

we're not getting anything until after the direct, hopefully

[rich quiver]

guys… i think i believe 100%

[supple nymph]

and whatever you do, do NOTTTT add revenants

[tranquil wren]

half an hour away

[limpid oar]

First time i see someone in here recommending hordes lmao

[haughty hill]

I'll rec hordes for fun just not for pushing fear, though it does depend on the weapon

hordes + time forces you to actually optimise your room clear

[supple nymph]

imagine artemis aspect against hordes 3

[haughty hill]

#h2-victory-boasting message

[proud swift]

Hordes is always very painful.

[haughty hill]

that was a while back but, eminently doable

[merry whale]

tbh yea getting used to hordes & time asap helps adjust to optimization

[supple nymph]

crazy work

[limpid oar]

That's one of the builds of all time

[merry whale]

ares meta

[haughty hill]

if you've got trick knives you've got a build!

[proud swift]

What level of Frenzy do you take in your high fear runs?

[supple nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[supple nymph]

always take frenzy 2 on high fear imo

[haughty hill]

frenzy's a really odd vow in that you basically pick what you want it at

[proud swift]

I've always used Frenzy 1 but I might try adjusting to 2.

[merry whale]

i prefer to get used to the rival fights at 0 first, then 1, then 2

[supple nymph]

tbf i take frenzy 2 even on low fear just so i can have faster spawning enemies

[haughty hill]

ah, hall monitor bot, I have not missed you...

and then you never, ever change it because if you do it screws with your muscle memory

[supple nymph]

i did frenzy 2 ever since early access dropped 💀

[limpid oar]

Frenzy 0 Chronos feels like he's delaying his attacks on purpose

[hearty idol]

Nintendo Direct is Live guys

[haughty hill]

fromsoft ahh boss

[hearty idol]

im a cope Hades 2 is there.

[proud swift]

Have it writ upon thy meager grave.

[verbal rampart]

Still downloading?

[proud swift]

I very much disliked using the frenzy 2 equivalent in Hades 1 because of those chariot enemies.

[limpid oar]

Yeah my internet is being really slow for some reason, aaaaa i want to see what that update is 😭

[proud swift]

How large is it?

[merry whale]

the zag x thanatos 10 minute 4k mp4

[molten obsidian]

🎉

[frank mulch]

those board games are getting really competitive

[merry whale]

"dammit zag stop sweating in monopoly"

[limpid oar]

Zag would be the type to steal from the bank

[frank mulch]

thanatos not comprehending how hes losing and zag eating the pieces when he is not looking

[verbal rampart]

?

[merry whale]

crunchy

[proud swift]

Would Thanatos ring his dramatic death gong upon winning the game.

[limpid oar]

Actually, who do y'all think would be the crossroads chess champion?

[frank mulch]

zesty!

is there actually no pomegranate emote

[limpid oar]

NO POMEGRANATES

[frank mulch]

i think its dora

[merry whale]

damn we should get a pom emote

[proud swift]

Hypnos

Whoever he plays against would fall asleep.

[frank mulch]

not for any particular reason just the image came to me so suddenly

[limpid oar]

There's a timer though! Hypnos would just time out.

[merry whale]

me when i foresee the game in 20 moves but i'm fast asleep and can't wake up

[frank mulch]

i think if mel bothered to get into it she would absolutely smash it. except for eris who is definitely eating the pieces when mel is not looking

[tranquil wren]

mel would be too locked in to not be looking

[limpid oar]

I have a feeling Odysseus is a tactical mastermind actually

[proud swift]

Eris is definitely using the aspect of lucifer on the chessboard after losing.

[tranquil wren]

lmao

[merry whale]

i feel like retribution incarnate would be stuck at like 600 elo and laugh at beating narc but goes insane when she loses elsewhere

[frank mulch]

in chess....

[rocky lava]

greg is online

today is the day

[merry whale]

the voices in my head

that just made me think of the chess bit in that End of the Line SFM where medic is trying to teach heavy how to play chess, who has absolutely no idea of how to play chess

[proud swift]

This might be the day where we play some Supergiant Games.

[limpid oar]

Pyre 2 reveal let's go

[frank mulch]

chess is so hard to understand but then you play the discord voice game and youre like ohh i get it its about murdering your friends without all the blood

[merry whale]

just outplay ur opponent ez

[limpid oar]

What discord voice game

[frank mulch]

oh uh

voice chat activities

[sleek oar]

What does this mean helppp

[frank mulch]

my friends no longer play chess but they do play mahjong against each other and i think thats true murderous intent

[tranquil wren]

mahjong is very fun

[sleek oar]

Mahjong is better than chess bc it has gambling

[tranquil wren]

true!

[sleek oar]

I also dropped like 200elo on chess.com so im very anti chess rn

[frank mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/mahjong-anime-anime-angry-gif-25458885

[merry whale]

on one hand im like yea i wanna improve at chess but also if i do improve and become sweaty then no one would want to play with me so i rather just not

[prisma crow]

What's a good general god to start with if I want to focus on the skull primary attack?

[limpid oar]

Yeah i dipped from online chess and only play it with friends

[limpid oar]

Hera

[merry whale]

real, same reason i've stopped taking smash seriously, that community sucks LOL

[sleek oar]

I play chess at my local coffee shop only now

[prisma crow]

So the big AOE of the Omega hits lots of people? Ok good idea thanks

[sleek oar]

Its way more fun than online but my board vision sucks rn 😭

[limpid oar]

Hitch is just really good in general

And hera boons provide decent % scaling on the move they buff

I believe it's either 3rd or 2nd highest? Aphro is the highest and I'm not sure which between Hera and Apollo had higher numbers

[prisma crow]

I actually hope Hades 2 doesn't come out with today's switch direct, because Im really close to being able to spend my vlenses on upgrades. Maybe I should set steam to offline mode lol

[merry whale]

o yea i forgor some upgrades require those lol

[limpid oar]

I still don't have the seed reset thing because i barely play surface

[prisma crow]

I'm quite bad at the game so I really grinded for them lol

[weary axle]

It says that when the game releases achievements will retroactively unlock

there a way to prevent that?

[merry whale]

prob make a new save, iirc the retroactivity only happens if u open a save

[weary axle]

so i could just delete the save when 1,0 has downloaded and be fine?

[merry whale]

ye, either that or just not open the save (as far as i understand it)

[frank mulch]

like, Right Now's switch direct

[merry whale]

quick learn all the speedrun strats for surface

[prisma crow]

Is it now? I just know it's today sometime

[tranquil wren]

in 5 mins

[frank mulch]

yes in like 5 mins lol

[merry whale]

ad's uncle works at sgg trust

[proud swift]

Surely they wouldn't shadow drop the game with no warning...

[weary axle]

not like they did that with hades 1

[sleek oar]

They will drop it on the 17th, today is the release date announcement trust

[proud swift]

Supergiant has never ever done such a thing.

[verbal rampart]

They already did and will probably do again

[frank mulch]

also i would say if you dont want the retroactive achievements, back up your save, delete it and play anew. then like. return your save

[sleek oar]

This was revealed to me in a dream

[frank mulch]

i just woke up im just glad a friend reminded me or i would have missed it and would have been a little sad bc watching it with friends is the best part

[merry whale]

i set a timer to wake up at 5:50 but then i woke up at 4

[proud swift]

I don't want Hades 2 to be finished I want to keep getting updates forever!

[frank mulch]

but im not rlly a big nintendo person anyway im just tuning in for some insane copium

[merry whale]

is this what silksong clowns feel like

[polar abyss]

I unfortunately have to skip watching the direct live. Let me know if anything good releases.

[opal fractal]

Mmmm copium…

[sleek oar]

Cope is only one letter away from hope !!

[merry whale]

ye i'm not really a nintendo person either, i just like looking at thing and go "o sick"

[verbal rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/better-off-dead-pure-snow-gif-7454020

[sleek oar]

I will also not be watching, but probably the server will blow up if they announce it so

[polar abyss]

True

[frank mulch]

i was only in it for the memes but i dont actually go there. im on the drakengard nier copium and you know what? replicant came to pc now its drakengard time. s ource i saw it in a dream

[merry whale]

what if we all collectively gaslight everyone and say there was never a hades 2 announcement like ba sing se

[sleek oar]

There is no hades 2 in super giant games

It was a collective hallucination

[molten obsidian]

today ☝️

[merry whale]

the power of believing™

[merry whale]

nuh uh

[opal fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/you-just-got-to-believe-spongebob-mindy-believe-trust-gif-14421927

[merry whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736285379447095470/1407380257236844574/caption.gif

[rich quiver]

👁️👁️

[molten obsidian]

40M of mario

[merry whale]

wait those sketches were sick i love concept art

[buoyant matrix]

get tf out of here mario i want melione

[molten obsidian]

and silksong dlc ✍️

[uncut galleon]

sgg theme park when

[opal fractal]

Aspect of Mario???

[merry whale]

aspect of mario (coat): your special launches you

[buoyant matrix]

no way sequel to Mario animation?

[opal fractal]

It was leaked yesterday

[buoyant matrix]

i am out of the loop

[potent relic]

Begin cope

[merry whale]

huh, ig they're working on both mario and zelda movies at the same time

[buoyant matrix]

i do not want to be inside the loop, i just want to be aware of it without any loop related responsibilities

[opal fractal]

ig it’s easier to work on both since they’re different mediums

[uncut galleon]

i wish i didn't live in the timeline where they're making a zelda movie tbh

[sleek oar]

Im so cope filled for the next 55 minutes

[merry whale]

i remember the first mario movie the pacing was kinda wack but as long as u don't take it too seriously it's a pretty good movie all things considered, esp being nintendo's first movie

[molten obsidian]

🛌

[opal fractal]

Usually I watch these after they’re done so I can skip stuff but I was craving some hopium

[verbal rampart]

Come on tell me there's an update to 1.0 so I can dump my entire social life

[buoyant matrix]

goddamnit it's all mario

[sleek oar]

Exactlyyy

[opal fractal]

You have a social life?

[merry whale]

the entire direct will be mario

[verbal rampart]

Yes but Hades 2 1.0 is more important

[sleek oar]

Im gonna try and sleep

[opal fractal]

Didn’t they already do a multipack with galaxy in it?

That was only available for a year

[sleek oar]

Yall @ me if it happens 😭

[opal fractal]

You’ll probably see a lot of pings if something happens

[molten obsidian]

$80

[tranquil wren]

120 dollars

[buoyant matrix]

first born child

[tranquil wren]

lmao

[opal fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/rosalina-super-mario-super-mario-galaxy-galaxy-smash-bros-rosalina-gif-21729001

[buoyant matrix]

no price lmaooo

[opal fractal]

Yet

[molten obsidian]

$80

[covert badge]

eepy

[merry whale]

it's actually crazy that they've just stopped showing prices in directs

[tranquil wren]

probably trying to avoid getting flamed for it

[merry whale]

it really is all mario

[molten obsidian]

🛌

[buoyant matrix]

let's NOT huh how about that

[tranquil wren]

is this just going to be an hour of mario

[covert badge]

i wish mario had luma as a child inside his bulgy belly

[opal fractal]

😭

[tranquil wren]

what the hell

[buoyant matrix]

???

[merry whale]

hades 2 cancelled for mario

[tranquil wren]

mods, pin this right now!

[merry whale]

i'm going to pretend i didn't see whatever that message contains

[buoyant matrix]

fire racket was without a doubt the strongest there

big area denial for your opponents

[tranquil wren]

I like the flowers

[brave urchin]

NINTENDO DIRECT TIME!

LETS GO!

[tranquil wren]

it's just mario

[buoyant matrix]

WHAT

[tranquil wren]

not the babies

[molten obsidian]

peak $80 game

[scarlet cosmos]

is Naxx out?

[covert badge]

the babies

[buoyant matrix]

OH MY GOD

[tranquil wren]

lmao

[rich quiver]

so no third party games eh

[tranquil wren]

it's the talking flower

[buoyant matrix]

I HATE THIS ITALIAN MAN

[covert badge]

damn there's still 180 mario games

[merry whale]

i've never wished it was the 39th year more than now

[plucky knot]

we want hades 2

[opal fractal]

But what about Luigi? He doesn’t deserve the hate

[brave urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/alf-who-doesnt-who-does-not-gif-26129817

[molten obsidian]

I'm starting to feel like I will waste an hour waiting for Hades 2.

[scarlet cosmos]

Green Mario

[brave urchin]

You can just not watch it and just check later if its out. XD

[opal fractal]

Aspect of Luigi would just give you the vacuum power

[molten obsidian]

🛌

[tranquil wren]

no I want to be there if it gets announced

[covert badge]

dw he's living well with bowser otp ship

[buoyant matrix]

so just Talos?