fleet stuff

[exotic kite]

First of all retrofit helena

[grizzled aspen]

^

[viral galleon]

lemme see if i have the stuff to do that

[stone quest]

Next question just a boss/mob fleet or opsi 4 fleets?

[grizzled aspen]

We can make a general use (mobbing) and a bossing

[viral galleon]

oh

[lusty ocean]

Rikka is good event tank

[viral galleon]

wanna make my mob and boss stronger

[stone quest]

What are they right now?

[viral galleon]

havent done opsi properly in a long ass time

[grizzled aspen]

Are these your only botes

[viral galleon]

no

[grizzled aspen]

We just recently had Perseus event so I was hoping to see her in your list

[lusty ocean]

Chise is good aquila lite, can consider using her if no aquila

[viral galleon]

ah lemme scrap those other imgs

[stone quest]

Perseus event was 3 months ago my dude. I'm more surprised at no Vanny.

[viral galleon]

came back yesterday

[stone quest]

Rip no Vanny.

[lusty ocean]

Aquila/percy are to go for when they rerun

[stone quest]

No more Perseus rerun she's going into perma next.

[restive sierra]

i mean it doesn't matter, he already have unkai and you never really use double healer

[viral galleon]

ok

i'll sort by rarity

[lusty ocean]

That's even better ig

[restive sierra]

don

don't sort by rarity

[grizzled aspen]

Oh didn't see unicorn refit

[stone quest]

Don't sort by rarity just scroll down and snapshot

[restive sierra]

sprt by level

[lusty ocean]

Level and retro granny spite if you want a pvp sniper

[stone quest]

Also, correct me but Chikuma is in Zekamashi event no?

[lusty ocean]

She also good for bossing

[exotic kite]

Warspite's very mid tbh

[restive sierra]

it's 2022 alr duh

[stone quest]

Don't. They have better options.

[lusty ocean]

I still use her to snipe enemy aquilas lol

[stone quest]

Ok

[restive sierra]

okay

[stone quest]

If you have nothing useful to contribute please don't say anything

[exotic kite]

First of all pvp advice in pvp, second of all warspite's been powercrept, don't give bad advice just stay quiet if you can't help with confidence

[restive sierra]

for which world is this btw?

[viral galleon]

14

[lusty ocean]

Aight

[stone quest]

Backlines look...good enough ig

[lusty ocean]

Twin cranes > twin bunnies?

[restive sierra]

i don't think so

[twilit comet]

Yes

[stone quest]

I don't think so either

But idk

[viral galleon]

my mob backline feels weird

idk what to do with ulrich

and the cranes never hit shit

unless its a stationary boss

[restive sierra]

it's good alr, just replace sirius with someone better at mobbing

[twilit comet]

That backline has no staggered dmg

[stone quest]

Mob has indep uni and UVH wdym no staggered dmg

[twilit comet]

Boss

[stone quest]

Oh

Yeah

[twilit comet]

Boss in w14 is just a mob fight

[viral galleon]

any ideas?

[stone quest]

Put Kron as tank on one of the fleets

[viral galleon]

she's 3* and i have no ur bulins

😦

[stone quest]

Poikai is also really good on mob/boss so you can replace another ship for her-oh

Take out Sirius for Poikai

[viral galleon]

who's poikai

[lusty ocean]

Ryusei for bossing...?

[grizzled aspen]

I second having Kron in your mobbing fleet, I'd like to throw in Jeanne in too for more survivability

[lusty ocean]

Oh wait w14

[stone quest]

Yuudachi Retro*

[stone quest]

Also that Kron is apparently 3* so rip

[viral galleon]

haven't really used her much what does she do?

also i dont have a purple bulin to retro helena

[twilit comet]

Tanky and good dmg

[stone quest]

Everything at a really good level

You get a few bulins a week so just finish your weekly since you came back yesterday.

[viral galleon]

i finished my weekly

i dont know where they all went

[twilit comet]

First helena doesn’t really need retro second helena is bad in w14

[lusty ocean]

Err.. merit shop?

[twilit comet]

And just buy her in guild shop

[lusty ocean]

Oh wait she in guild shop also smh

[viral galleon]

70 guild coins

[twilit comet]

[viral galleon]

which gun for poi

[stone quest]

Twin 128

[twilit comet]

Quad mag

[twilit comet]

Whatever is fine

[stone quest]

Toolbox x2 or Extinguisher I think

Sec

[viral galleon]

not really using the goldburn anymore

would that work instead of a repairkit

[lusty ocean]

Double toolbox ig

[viral galleon]

or would it be worse

[stone quest]

Ye

[lusty ocean]

Qn, mag> nonmag even if u playing on manual?

[stone quest]

Is better if u have CV flag but good enough

No, you use British torps on manual

[lusty ocean]

Thought so. Brit quint torps eh

[twilit comet]

British torp in mobbing

[viral galleon]

whats this augment stuff about btw

[stone quest]

Parallel torps

There's a pin about it in GPH

[viral galleon]

ah ok

[stone quest]

It would explain it better than us kekw

[viral galleon]

is purple highest rarity aug?

[twilit comet]

That boss fleet still seems eh though, have you tried it out in w14

[viral galleon]

seems like i beat the 1st world once

with it

havent tried in a while tho

was getting materials for unikai

and event

[twilit comet]

14-2 boss is the start of w14 so try it there

If it’s not working the other 2 stages will need some changes

[stone quest]

Might be better to try build an Enty fleet but there's not much options

Start to level Kiev and Volga tho I feel like it might come in handy

Can allow you to Volga Unikai in mob and Indepkai for Boss

[twilit comet]

I don’t know how people even use indep in boss mine died in 14-2

[viral galleon]

kiev?

[lusty ocean]

Whivh pin o.o pr4/new gear lab equips?

[stone quest]

Augments sir

[lusty ocean]

Oh. Me tot u talking abt quint torps

[stone quest]

Kiev solid DD but Volga more impt in this context ig

[twilit comet]

I want to put uvh in boss but you’ll lack bb for mob

Oh yeah I heard riche is nice here

[viral galleon]

would losing cranes be bad>

[stone quest]

Not really

[viral galleon]

who would be the other backline then

[stone quest]

I wanna say Enty Richie Indepkai and see if she works.

Cos the staggered dmg would be solid...

[twilit comet]

How is riche without french

I don’t have her so don’t know

If she’s still good I’d go riche unicorn volga for mob, uvh enty indep boss

[stone quest]

I'm not sure I only know she's good for light dmg

[twilit comet]

If she’s not good then I think tosa works

[viral galleon]

is nagato getting exiled too?

[stone quest]

Unfortunately since she's mostly faction buffer, by herself outclassed.

[viral galleon]

rip sakura fleet

[stone quest]

Ok I looked at Riche might be better to run her than Tosa.

[viral galleon]

i have riche 10/10/10

and 121

so that works

[stone quest]

Good shit

[viral galleon]

holy fuck

unikai

thats the first time ive used her

since retro

[stone quest]

Yes, Unikai is super good.

[twilit comet]

And boss fleet

[viral galleon]

is she ex now or what

[twilit comet]

That vanguard isn’t gonna last in 14-2

Probably

[stone quest]

I argue unikai > perseus

[viral galleon]

i thought the gear i gave her was overkill

seems not

[stone quest]

Oh he has Adalbert

[stone quest]

No Kron kinda pain peco

[twilit comet]

Anyway let’s just see how you do in 14-2

[stone quest]

I think once u level Volga try put Riche in mob and see if she can deal with suicide boats

[twilit comet]

My uvh carried a lot in boss so just feel a bit wasteful seeing her in mob

[viral galleon]

my uvh is weak

havent had enough time to max her

[stone quest]

Normally you would run FDG in mob but

[viral galleon]

i forget who im devving

[stone quest]

Can start coining PR2 ig

See if you can finish them up

[twilit comet]

Also you don’t have sub?

[viral galleon]

the charging shield boats are so gross

[viral galleon]

?

[twilit comet]

Submarine

[viral galleon]

i will be honest with u

i forgot they existed

and i have never touched them really

[twilit comet]

They will make your w14 clear from near impossible to very hard

Well full clear lethal

[viral galleon]

uni is my new diety

14-1 lost zuikaku

should i try the other fleet setup?

[stone quest]

Yeah cranes not doing anything so might wanna take some time to do the other setup.

[twilit comet]

That’s some low dmg for backline

[viral galleon]

what was the setups again

for backlines

[twilit comet]

I can only think of enty uvh indep

[viral galleon]

who is flag

[twilit comet]

Enty

[viral galleon]

who replaces indep in mob

[twilit comet]

Don’t know if uvh alone is enough to deal with charging ship

Volga

[viral galleon]

what does she do

also not skilled or levelled

[twilit comet]

Read her skills

She’s a supplementary healer

And has good dmg

[stone quest]

Skill and level and come back in a few days

[viral galleon]

wheres that levelling zone chart thing again

[stone quest]

Which one?

[viral galleon]

the one that showed efficiency for xp or something

for each world

[stone quest]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KUGpvLg9Q-BU8yGe-REeuZCydiK8Ffxh/edit#gid=1068071133

Think is this one

But if you need to know just hit 12-1

And get cog chips and augment mats while you're at it.

[viral galleon]

uvh just kinda died

retrod helena

[twilit comet]

Yeah uvh get revealed real quick

[viral galleon]

would she be better than sandy in that

[twilit comet]

That's why put a rudder on her

Told you before helena is bad in w14

[viral galleon]

oh ok

didnt see

[twilit comet]

Uvh should does at least this

And this is a low roll

[viral galleon]

what are you running on her

[twilit comet]

She usually does around 260k

[viral galleon]

champy gun?

doesnt she want HE

[twilit comet]

She still wants ap against med/heavy

Can probably use mk7 against med though

[viral galleon]

whats w14 like for armor

[twilit comet]

14-3 is light else is heavy/med

[viral galleon]

lemme dust mine off then lol

[twilit comet]

For mob the threats are heavy

[viral galleon]

her skills are a bit sad rn

i 6*d her then stopped playing

came back for the other UR and then dipped again

[twilit comet]

Level her everything up

Use better aux gun

This is good against charging ships

It's in gear lab

[viral galleon]

gear lab

[twilit comet]

Well w14 is like that you can't go in with half built ships

[stone quest]

Rip

Time to opsi

[viral galleon]

i remember being traumatised in opsi

but ive repressed what actually traumatised me

i think it was these types of bosses

with 30% regen

[stone quest]

Could be worse tbh

Just try em

[viral galleon]

im getting flashbacks of 4 fleets wiped

to a boss that was immortal

[stone quest]

It's okay

Believe.

You have UvH

[viral galleon]

speaking of this i never really knew how to make a real opsi comp

[stone quest]

Just run 1 mob 1 bb fleet 1 cv fleet for now and it should be fine

[viral galleon]

same mob as like

normal?

[twilit comet]

Yes

[viral galleon]

wdym by bb fleet

and cv fleet

like

full backline of each?

[twilit comet]

Yes

[viral galleon]

is this fine

havent decided frontline

[twilit comet]

Solo nagato is eh, and not sure about graf but it's something like that

[viral galleon]

it was graf or solo crane

my bbs are limited

[twilit comet]

Fleet 4 can be nagato cranes

[viral galleon]

something like this maybe? idk

[twilit comet]

Warkai and monarch for bb fleet

[viral galleon]

no prints for monarch

[twilit comet]

Where's your helena and cv buffers

You can buy her bp with coins

[viral galleon]

warkai is uninvested

[twilit comet]

Invest in here then

[viral galleon]

dont think i have enough on hand

[twilit comet]

Don't know why people said she isn't worth it

[viral galleon]

to full lb and retro

need some stuff for when i start using volga too

[twilit comet]

Then keep those for now

[viral galleon]

idk where helena would go

instead of ibuki or brem,?

[viral galleon]

afaik sirius is my only cv buffer

[twilit comet]

Idk how good brem is

[viral galleon]

how am i gonna gear all of these fleets lol

jesus

[twilit comet]

Just gear the cv and bb

Vanguard can use each other's stuff

[viral galleon]

ah what do i get from here

[stone quest]

Classified -> Rainbow books -> Coords

[viral galleon]

i remember why i gave up onthis mode

monster

[stone quest]

[viral galleon]

nightmnare

[stone quest]

You should get

Your tuning up to max for this fight I think.

Cos I can do it with weaker ships than you

[viral galleon]

can i come back to this?

[stone quest]

Yeah, no rush for it.

[twilit comet]

No

[stone quest]

Oh wait

It's boss battle and he started it

Sheet mb I thought it as Arbiter wrongly

[viral galleon]

shimakaze is in rip and tear mode

im trying as hard as i can

[twilit comet]

Get your adapts up

[stone quest]

Use your items that increase adapts (since you can't leave the zone)

Also don't use your mob fleet.

[viral galleon]

i already did beforei came

[stone quest]

Cos if u use ur mob fleet ur gonna get low morale on the fight and it'll cope

Can't reset

[twilit comet]

Well c6 zombie depends on the boss it can take me 5 fights to finish it

Recently only 2 though

[stone quest]

C6 zombie took me all 3 resets of 2 fleets and 1 last mob fleet hit

I hate that shit with my heart and soul.

[viral galleon]

torp weakness

🙂

[twilit comet]

Just don't worry about that

[stone quest]

That bit isn't so important.

[viral galleon]

yeah no

this isnt happening lol

i cant do 50% of its hp in one go

rip

do i just exit

[stone quest]

If you used everything and the cunt is still alive ig so, not much choice

[viral galleon]

i could regroup still

but i dont see the point

i wont be able to do 50 bars

with the regen

[twilit comet]

You killed the 2 mobs at the bottom?

Or did everyone just get toll of war

[stone quest]

To be fair if he can't do at least 35% of the boss HP in one sitting it might be difficult

[twilit comet]

At least pushing to 25% for the reward is doable

[stone quest]

Oh, true.

[viral galleon]

killed the mobs

was still undoable 😦

[twilit comet]

Well now you know

Don't rush the boss if you have no adapts

And with your gear I imagine it would be hard anyway

[stone quest]

I recommend prepping at least a few +10 MLEs/406s too, I think it should be enough

[viral galleon]

hmm