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coral mulch
ye
coral mulch
nah just gold and rainbow
polar sable
Also how to explain this... I do have like 2k gems but I was thinking that 150 box space might be a fun challenge. 🙃
polar sable
It really is a massive pain.
I'm at the point where I don't know who to retire anymore.
coral mulch
yea just expand
theres not much you can do about dock space
you have the retrofit item for yuudachi?
polar sable
Hmm. I don't think so. I believe I was on hiatus then too. xd
I've been gone for like a year, sorry.
Honestly also, I haven't been doing research ships because uh. Y'know, dock space LOL.
So I do recognize that maybe I'm at a point where I need to expand.
coral mulch
think of it like this
a challenge is beating the hardest in the game with suboptimal comp
limiting your dock space while trying to do that is too hard
just expand cuz you need to develop a bunch of ships for research too
polar sable
Honestly is my dock kinda screwy because of that lol. xd I don't mind waiting for reruns because... most of the ships I get are retired.
polar sable
Ahh.. yeah lol.
coral mulch
all he need is elbow grease
you want galatea to be on mob or boss @polar sable
its easier if shes on boss
polar sable
May I ask why? I don't mind either way as long as she's part of the adventure.
But so far she's been on mob every time.
coral mulch
May I ask why? I don't mind either way as long as she's part of the adventure.
because w14 mob fleet is the hard part
polar sable
Oh.
coral mulch
w14 mob difficulty is torture
boss difficulty is ok as long as shit is tanky enough and backline hit hard enough
and you can easily reset
polar sable
Oh huh okay.
mint lantern
yea the mob is even shittier than the boss, esp 14-3
coral mulch
so ig galatea on boss fleet?
polar sable
Yeah.
coral mulch
this for mob
you can auto pretty easily, manual works too if you are scared
remember to use submarine fleet on mob fights and save 1 ammo for boss
polar sable
I guess that fleet makes sense.
It's like all the best ships ever in one fleet right?
That is 2 DRs though... 
polar sable
Oh my goodness. I am dead.
coral mulch
okay now
polar sable
3 DRs.
coral mulch
so, expand your docks and ill explain
first, research is a lot easier now with coining and catch up
and when you get a gold ship to fate sim 5 (you can coin a pr2 gold ship to fate sim 5), it removes the ship from the research pool
meaning you can no longer get the research for that ship, meaning the research projects for the other ships show up more
if you coin every gold ship to fate sim 5, in pr2, the ONLY FACE RESEARCH YOU GET WILL BE FDG AND AZUMA
polar sable
That's pretty nice.
coral mulch
thats how you see dudes getting 10-15 rainbow ship blueprints everyday
all day
so you should coin the pr2 gold ships to fate sim 5 then research focus pr2
for easy fate sim 5 azuma and dev30 fdg
polar sable
To clarify, that means I need to unlock all of the PR2 ships first then.
coral mulch
yes
polar sable
And then... Fate Sim 5. All of them.
coral mulch
thats why i told you to expand dock
polar sable
Yes. I see.
Okay so that's the elbow grease part I'm guessing. The nutty amount of hard work that I have to put in to make this comp possible.
coral mulch
you can also research focus pr2 on top of all that for the rainbow gun
since i suggested you to have 2 copies of that
polar sable
What I'm curious about now, if you don't mind my asking, is why each of those ships matters or is there.
Ah yeah I only have one copy atm.
coral mulch
What I'm curious about now, if you don't mind my asking, is why each of those sh...
oh because when you fate sim 5 one gold ship, the other ships speed up, its just easier if you fate sim 5 all of them
coral mulch
ooh
polar sable
Independence, etc.
coral mulch
fdg is the best mob bb in the game for w14
polar sable
RIP Centaur and all my other 120 ships I raised lol.
coral mulch
in w14, your entire screen will be filled with suicide boats and random shit almost constantly
submarines, suicide boats, enemy chibis
etc
your backline will take a lot of dmg constantly
means fdg's proximity barrage will proc almost constantly
which is just insane dps
aquila has really good dps and shield your frontline, and she makes up the backline heal for unicorn
both aquila and unicorn are some of the highest dps healer ships in this game
yes both of them do higher dps than perseus and ryuuhou
mint lantern
percy heals great, but her damage is not good at all
mint lantern
once her preload goes, her damage falls off hard
coral mulch
so after the first 5 seconds, persesus do like nothing for the rest of the battle
mint lantern
her timed barrage also suck 
coral mulch
basically longer the fight = more useless perseus become, and w14 fights are very long
polar sable
Okay that makes a lot of sense.
coral mulch
plus unicorn also has a preload
so she can also clear the first initial wave
and speed things up
azuma is there bc damage, you can use drake instead of azuma, but drake is harder to max
and the difference isnt huge in damage, plus azuma is tankier
kitakaze is there because w14 favors destroyers
thats the uh, best destroyer you have if you dont have the fancy shit like shimakaze or yuudachi lol
mint lantern
basically if you dont have the UR DD
coral mulch
and rikka has really good frontline damage, and nice backline heal
you can use noshiro or another destroyer instead of her
or jeanne for just busted invul shield
yea thats your mob fleet
for boss fleet tho, new jersey is the highest single target damage battleship in the game
she just shred bosses
polar sable
Random question, sorry. But NJ > FDG in boss damage?
coral mulch
Random question, sorry. But NJ > FDG in boss damage?
yes
fdg is better vs mob anyway
bc of her proximity barrage clearing the screen constantly
enterprise is there because big damage, enterprise damage by herself is comparable to the rainbow ships
and she is more tanky after lucky e
which is another plus
independence is great because w14 bosses are kinda like a very long mob fight
like im not joking, its literally a mob battle with a boss at the end
independence has really high damage uptime and she buff enterprise
polar sable
Ahh okay.
coral mulch
like independence has really high reload, and she make enterprise fire faster
so shes really fast at clearing the ads constantly
agir is the tankiest vanguard ship in this game
she is like, BULK
polar sable
Like more than Azuma?
coral mulch
yea
mint lantern
yes more than azuma
polar sable
Oh damn
coral mulch
agir is born with heavy armor
and self dmg taken reduction
and her dps is also like top 3 out of all the cruisers
mint lantern
she got innate damage reduction and evasion up
coral mulch
agir is very poorly designed to be short
polar sable
As expected of the DR ships lol.
mint lantern
yea agir is really op
coral mulch
she does one of the highest vanguard dps, and she is the tankiest vanguard ship
on top of all that she has utility for backline
mint lantern
and her torpedo slows the enemy, so you can expect more bb shells to hit the target
polar sable
sigh LOL. So basically in both fleets, I'm throwing the best ships together in one team.
That are still obtainable.
That makes a lot of sense.
coral mulch
and the last ship
anchorage
every time she fires her torpedoes she make entire vanguard invulnerable to damage for like 2 seconds
polar sable
So Galatea won't die.
coral mulch
and she by herself is the second tankiest vanguard ship in the game
mint lantern
PR4 has alot of extremely strong ships
polar sable
Ah so two of the tankiest ships together in one team.
coral mulch
yeah, basically galatea wont die
coral mulch
and the most bs part right
nj make all eagle union ships take 5% less dmg
galatea and anchorage are eagle union
just icing on cake
polar sable
Serious question. With a team like this, Galatea is practically non-existent huh?
Galatea's Royal Navy.
polar sable
So she literally is going to do like 1% of the team's damage.
From what it seems.
LOL.
coral mulch
Serious question. With a team like this, Galatea is practically non-existent huh...
well yea, galatea isnt that strong overall comapared to the rest of them
coral mulch
anchorage is a giant meat shield
polar sable
So Anchorage is just literally a tanky ship with fast reloading torps that keeps everyone invuln.
coral mulch
yea so, in order to get and max them right, research focus pr4 while developing and coining pr2 gold ships
that way you can do both agir anchorage and kitakaze/fdg/azuma at the same time
after you coin all the pr2 gold ships to fate sim 5, focus pr2 for easy dev30 fdg and fate sim 5 azuma
polar sable
Alright so while we're here I'll also just ask a quick question. Or two. xd Sorry lol.
polar sable
I have that one.
Nice.
So I have both rainbow BB guns.
Okay so let's see..
I was asking about w14 because it is a whole different monster, and while w13 is still kind of in the same realm as w12, I haven't cleared it yet. (But I assume that with my current teams, once I 125 everyone, I should be fine.)
Well firstly, would both those teams work for w13 too.
I'm on 13-3 btw. xd
coral mulch
and the rest is uh
submarine fleet
you want to have a good submarine fleet for w14
like, on your mob fleet especially when you out of ammo, use the submarine fleet to help
coral mulch
so since researching all that will take a few months right
you can wait for the anniversary wishing well
and choose u 81 and u 96
mint lantern
i got all my subs from wishing well
polar sable
RIP Surcouf. 😦
coral mulch
and make a team of u81, u96 and u47
mint lantern
theres no point in coping for it in special pool
coral mulch
RIP Surcouf. 😦
another tip right
farm 11-1 for exp
or 12-1
11-1 is the best exp/oil place in the game
polar sable
So those 3 subs just because they're all Iron Blood and I'm guessing top-tier?
coral mulch
ironblood submarines buff eachother
or buff themselves the more ironblood submarines there are on the fleet
once together they become huge damage dealers
except u47 she can be used by herself everywhere
polar sable
I did keep U-410 because she's kind of cute. Mmm. Would she fit in or nah (she seems tier 2 on the tier list though RIP).
coral mulch
she works too
polar sable
Well okay! Hmm. I have a few busy months ahead of me... haha.
polar sable
Luo, thank you so much for your time and effort in helping me work through this. 🙃 Lol.
With the dock expansion (+30), I.. should be good for now! Hopefully.
And mm... yeah. xd Seriously appreciate all your help and guidance.
polar sable
Does the thread close eventually or something.
coral mulch
oh yea another thing
mint lantern
farming for DR ships aint so painful anymore though, which is good
polar sable
Also it's my fault for leaving everyone level 1 though LOL.
polar sable
Oh okay.
Hmm. Btw so every single other ship is like.
Well, okay honestly, from your description of each of the ships I'll be using for w14.
They completely overshadow every other ship in my dock atm. 🙃
coral mulch
yea
coral mulch
w14 is the hardest content in this game afterall
mint lantern
those ships are for endgame contents basically
polar sable
Yeah.
mint lantern
you use them to fight arbiters/meta too
coral mulch
like the first time i did it, i didnt know to put rudder on backline light carriers
so the big suicide boats just 1 shot perseus
from half hp
mint lantern
yea the dmg in w14 is damn sick
coral mulch
yea thats why fdg on backline
polar sable
Wtf.
mint lantern
even odin gets smack around by fire damage
coral mulch
because there isnt much ships that do fdg level damage
mint lantern
you came back after vanguard's event?
polar sable
Alright. Time to start the adventure. Thanks again you two. You're awesome help.
coral mulch
oh yea w14 also has a lot of chibis that light your backline on fire
polar sable
Mmm. I came back during the event because I was hoping Galatea got a skin or retrofit.
She didn't so I didn't bother with the event. 🙃
LOL.
Sorry.
coral mulch
good thing is fdg can just tank it
mint lantern
ouh shucks
coral mulch
She didn't so I didn't bother with the event. 🙃
did you get the aux
coral mulch
okay the rainbow aux is broken af
mint lantern
give that to fdg and fdg will finally hit stuff
polar sable
FDG has relatively poor accuracy?
coral mulch
FDG has relatively poor accuracy?
yea, because she has 0 luck, and teh gaming table give like 53 hit
which basicallly is like doubling fdg's hit
polar sable
Lol.
Wait do you guys have like, these fleets?
Or like some of the ships in these fleets.
coral mulch
i do
mint lantern
i mean yea
polar sable
Okay so like, hmm.
When you have those ones, what do you do with everyone else?
Like... hmm.
coral mulch
i maxed like every research ship in the game
uh i run a better setup
similar but better
polar sable
I have really wonky fleets because I like waifus.
But I have to work hard to make them work. When you have the best ship in every slot on your fleet, what happens to like, the tier 2s and 3s?
mint lantern
I have really wonky fleets because I like waifus.
i used to do that too, dont worry, you can start thinking of better units now
well in opsi you need 4 fleets
coral mulch
But I have to work hard to make them work. When you have the best ship in every ...
they are just in the dock sitting
mint lantern
so you'll still get to use those units
coral mulch
but i usually just uh, use the ships that give good fleet tech and lvl 120 them
so basically everyone gets a chance to be used
polar sable
Hm okay. Jw. Thanks haha.
coral mulch
coral mulch
Like my opsi fleet is the only tryhard shit i use atm
polar sable
Oh my god.