OpSi Mob & Boss Fleets

[past cape]

Are you guys able to post some screenshots in this thread of your OpSi Mob & Boss Fleets please? Want to revamp my ones :)

[vapid pecan]

This is mine atm, will add Vanguard into a BB fleet once I have her leveled

Fleet 4 is Richy Howe DoY Kronstadt and the DDGs

[prisma glen]

Currently
4th is to test out monarch vs howe vs warkai

Normally i would run another CV fleet

[fringe dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/927233648904777798/982948868553601054/unknown.png

[past cape]

Is there a reason why you're running your CV fleet without Kazugumo? Just curious :)

[fringe dune]

I don't have Kazagumo

[past cape]

Lmao, fair enough

[vapid pecan]

The basics of OpSi fleet building basically revolves around 1 heal/preload focused mob fleet, 1 CV fleet, 1 HE BB fleet, and a 4th fleet that is often AP BBs

[fringe dune]

Mob fleet is barely visible, but it's Gasco/Uni/Indep - Duca/An Shan/Rikka

[prisma glen]

Well most good bb these days dont care about which ammo they using

[vapid pecan]

The abyssals that are weak to shelling damage are all light armor

[prisma glen]

So it
1 mob
1 bb
1 cv
1 whatever you like to built

Well CV also good against light armour so

[fringe dune]

You can set up a good BB fleet to use whatever ammo and still decimate the target

[past cape]

Here's what I'm running, mostly cause I'm lazy and haven't updated in a while:

[prisma glen]

Look fine

[vapid pecan]

The point of having a dedicated CV and BB fleet is a combination of synergy and just beating the bosses, so the HE BB fleet takes priority over AP on paper

[prisma glen]

Best HE bb fleet is best AP BB fleet

[vapid pecan]

Yup

[prisma glen]

You cant run dupe

How you make 2 fleet

[vapid pecan]

Issue for me is that I use my best BB fleet with AP for META fights lol

[fringe dune]

Quick question while we're here: My 4th fleet has SF as MT, and Seattle as OT. How copium would it be to run Roon MT, SF OT, would it even be worth it?

[vapid pecan]

So I just scrounge what I can out of strong SR/PR BBs for my HE fleet ATM

[fringe dune]

I just gear swap

[vapid pecan]

That is a LOT of work given that I can auto harbiter

[fringe dune]

Used to gear swapping by now so it doesn't bother me much

[prisma glen]

cant you just
Swap the gun for arbiter, then swap it back when done
There other option for last fleet
It doesn't have to be BBs

[vapid pecan]

I don't frequently equip swap, I just run seperate fleets and auto 99% of OpSi content with my mob fleet

[prisma glen]

Well you do you then

[past cape]

Everyone has their own opinions.... But thanks guys :)

[prisma glen]

But other do
And you shouldnt forced running second BBs fleet really
Other option also available

[past cape]

Will reshuffle now

[vapid pecan]

The HE BB fleet is a larger priority for sure than a potential AP one which is mostly used for fighting the CV abyssal and things that survive the CV fleet

But as I said with my original comment, the 4th fleet can vary

[prisma glen]

You can run CV with rocket
Do the same job

[vapid pecan]

As I said, abyssal damage type weakness

The HE BB fleet is the only BB fleet you should consistently run in OpSi

[prisma glen]

Not every arbiter
And it just 1 fight per month

[fringe dune]

4th fleet is basically whatever you can / want to put together. For me, putting together a decent second BB fleet is way easier than a decent second CV fleet for example

[vapid pecan]

C4-6 abyssals, not sure where you got arbiter from

[prisma glen]

Cv fleet handle those better in my experience

Even without weekness

Well i run 2 rainbow so

[vapid pecan]

The UR trio with HE outdamages CVs if properly supported

[prisma glen]

Doubt it

Cant test it

[vapid pecan]

And I say this as someone with far better CV fleet tech than BB fleet tech

[prisma glen]

Those 2 fleet should 1 shot most c6 abyssal anyeay

And it a thing you do eith multiple fleet

[vapid pecan]

This is, ofc, specifically oriented towards the DD and CL abyssals

[fringe dune]

Can someone help me with this

[prisma glen]

Nope

[vapid pecan]

Yeah, you get multiple fleets for an abyssal fight, but why wouldn't you try to optimize damage output?

[prisma glen]

Sf>>> roon

[vapid pecan]

Roon is... Uhhhhh...

[fringe dune]

So SF's damage buff wouldn't be worth using a worse main tank

got it

[prisma glen]

What optimize are you talking about

Using different gun that can swap out

[vapid pecan]

Thing is, offtank SF has great damage output but I don't think it's enough to offset the fact that MT SF is both tankier and higher dps than roon

[prisma glen]

If that the case you run CV
Cause it just 1 loadout for everything
No needed to clicked

Well this go off the track

[vapid pecan]

Also if you have the DDGs, they demolish light armor and work super well in a dedicated anti light fleet in OpSi

[past cape]

I think the off tank dmg buff you get form san fran is better than having her as main tank tbh

But

[vapid pecan]

If you want vanguard DPS you have solid options from DDs

[past cape]

What other options do ypu have as a main tank?

[past cape]

this too

[vapid pecan]

The annoying thing with top tier gunboat CAs like Sanfran is that they're basically weaker CBs

[fringe dune]

One sec, let me launch the game. I know that my best MT's are Kron and Ancho, who are already occupied

[vapid pecan]

If you don't have Agir or Azuma at a solid dev level then Sanfran is probably your next best MT option

[fringe dune]

[vapid pecan]

Yeah in sheer durability Sanfran and Tallinn are your next best options behind Kron and Anchorage

[past cape]

You actually have a pretty decent collection tbh

[vapid pecan]

Agir is a really good ship to work towards tho

[past cape]

I'd probs go for Tallin. Other options like Azuma, Prinz Heinrich and Roon u are good too but you don't have the last two :)

[fringe dune]

I know Agir is really good, but the blueprint/time investment

[past cape]

I fyou go tallin, try to use an AP KMS or NP gun tho for that sweet dmg boost

[vapid pecan]

It's an investment you're gonna do at some point regardless because PR4 research is probably what you're doing atm

[past cape]

Dw I'm in the same boat, currently only at dev lvl 14 withher after a few months :( She's still tanky even without maxing out her dev lvl though

[vapid pecan]

Agir is very much workable as low as dev15 and at dev20 I'd consider her to be easily on par with some of the strongest gunboat CAs

[fringe dune]

Yep

my DR prints count is kinda tragic though

[past cape]

Oooo nice prints, they're better than mine are lol

[past cape]

You might be more up to date than me, but do people still use Cheshire as MT or did she get relegated to being an off tank?

[vapid pecan]

I don't think anyone uses Cheshire as a MT outside of w12/13

She's just not exceptional outside of AA focused content

Her FS5 was also the weakest of her season

She does one thing extremely well but in terms of durability and damage output someone like Sanfran outdoes her

I've been slacking really badly with PR4 but I do have enough to insta FS5 2 PRs with saved up universal PR4 prints

[fringe dune]

Just realised that's at least a D25 Agir lmao