My Dock - Any ships that are really good here?

[stoic goblet]

krons really gud like i said, enterprise too

[tender sundial]

Im using enty

[stoic goblet]

helena broken af but you know that

[tender sundial]

What is exactly so strong about her? I've been using her just cause I know she's good

[pallid notch]

Chang chun retrofit and ark royal are also really good ships

[vagrant yoke]

Don't see why you wouldn't use Warspite

[tender sundial]

I have both retro items from the chang chun one

As well as warspite's. just need the retro

[lilac nebula]

an shan, chang chun and ark are good elite to retro and use

[vagrant yoke]

It's in the proto shop

[tender sundial]

Ya I meant like just need to go through the retro tree

[vagrant yoke]

Oh

[stoic goblet]

adalbert, tashkent, independence, kron

yea thats about it

[uncut pollen]

Who're you asking about

[tender sundial]

Ya I use most those. My mob fleet is great rn. Mostly boss is problem

[stoic goblet]

if you have the uh, retrofit item for ddgs and or yuudachi pls tell me now @tender sundial

[tender sundial]

vanguard is port, helena, sandy

@uncut pollen helena

[stoic goblet]

big ass 40% debuff every 20 seconds

[uncut pollen]

Helena's buff is massive on bosses because it's an instant chunk of damage on your backline burst

And backline does more damage than vg

[tender sundial]

is it off her missiles or just automatic?

[stoic goblet]

it is fucking massive for damage boost

[stoic goblet]

automatic

[uncut pollen]

It is automatic for every enemy on screen at the time of proccing

[tender sundial]

and should I use my airships during that time?

[stoic goblet]

read her skill description

[tender sundial]

like for big dmg

[uncut pollen]

Also Helena's just a good gunbote in general

No you just auto lol

[stoic goblet]

you can sync your cvs to fire airstrikes every 20 seconds

[uncut pollen]

Who cares about comp if you manual

[stoic goblet]

by equipping different planes

[tender sundial]

yuudachi??

[stoic goblet]

she is the second best destroyer in the game after retrofit

after retrofit

[uncut pollen]

Yuudachi can retro into UR, enough said :') rainbows do what they want

[stoic goblet]

you need the retrofit item.

best destroyer in the game is ofc fucking shimakaze

but like we dont talk about rainbow gacha ships

and an shan/chang chun after retrofit are pretty nutty as well

ddgs

[uncut pollen]

But yeah this combined with mob fights usually not lasting much more than 20s and the issue of it not triggering on enemies spawning after it procs + overkill means you use this for bosses

[tender sundial]

I dont even have yuudachi

[stoic goblet]

you can farm for her

[uncut pollen]

Don't grind for her until the item comes back

[stoic goblet]

getting her doesnt matter cuz you can farm for her to drop

[tender sundial]

also dont think i have it

[uncut pollen]

6-4 drop only, not worth the time

[stoic goblet]

but the issue is do you have the meat perfume

[tender sundial]

just the 2 where 1 is chang chun

and warspites

Idk like I'm kind of happy with my fleet atm, but I dont know how to feel about sandy/port

Like are they worth keeping, should i switch them out?

[stoic goblet]

you have kron

[tender sundial]

I mean they are struggling on 10-3 boss even though my mob fleet just wipes

[stoic goblet]

max your kron and replace port

[tender sundial]

mmm

I might do that

[uncut pollen]

Kron's fine to use lb2 tbh

[stoic goblet]

not that you might do that

you will do that

kron is fucking insane

[uncut pollen]

^

[tender sundial]

LMAO

[stoic goblet]

its not an option

when you have a rainbow gacha ship

you max them

[uncut pollen]

Kron does more damage than portland and helena without buff combined lol

[stoic goblet]

kron does more damage than most vanguard ships in this game

[tender sundial]

well I do have her at lvl 97 already so ig I may as well

Ill have almost enough urs for the hms ur max anyways

[uncut pollen]

... oh he has the bulins. Yeah you get a rainbow gacha ship you max. There is no questions asked

[tender sundial]

haha lmao

[uncut pollen]

Ur events come with a bURin afaik so

[tender sundial]

Yes I'm a madman who didnt insta max kron

[stoic goblet]

ur bullins arent that rare

so ye

[uncut pollen]

^

[tender sundial]

Aight ill do it

I planned on it eventually

[uncut pollen]

Do you have kron gun

[tender sundial]

I should

[uncut pollen]

(Abyssal event gun)

[stoic goblet]

unless you are esdeath who literally retire non ironblood ships

you max every rainbow gacha

[uncut pollen]

Esdeath doesn't follow meta so kinda invalid for that convo lol

[vagrant yoke]

Wait...someone actually does that

[stoic goblet]

esdeath know what hes doing so like

[tender sundial]

which is the gun called?

[uncut pollen]

B-50

[stoic goblet]

he made it through w14 with ironblood only fleets

[tender sundial]

b50 triple 305mm?

[uncut pollen]

Yes

[tender sundial]

Ya I got it

[uncut pollen]

Put it on kron, buffs her aux

Also just really strong cb gun in general + buffs barrage

It is worth +10ing

[stoic goblet]

its the best cb gun in the game for aoe, and uh, it also gib leeway for kron to use seattle gun as her aux gun

aka the best uh, cl gun in the game

[uncut pollen]

(+13ing but doubt you have the resources for that)

[tender sundial]

Alright I'll max out Kron best I can. Should get me through the 10 world I imagine

[uncut pollen]

Kron goes everywhere

And I mean everywhere

[tender sundial]

Urs are crazy like that

[stoic goblet]

gear level and ship level still matters a hell lot

you can try again if you like but imo you should farm levels

[uncut pollen]

EX SP4 harbiter w14 you name it you can do it with a well geared 125 kron

[stoic goblet]

raise all your ships to at least 105

[tender sundial]

I mean she's lvl 97 and I'll have like +6->+10 gears

But fair

[uncut pollen]

Thing is 1 ship can't just carry your fleet lol

[tender sundial]

Rest of my fleet is fine

I just needed a better one over port

Since she was just getting melted

[uncut pollen]

Portland getting melted means something is wrong or you're underlevelled for w10 which probably is the case

[stoic goblet]

prolly undergeared

whats your aux

for kron you should use uh, rudder and vh armor or rudder and beaver squad

[tender sundial]

my aux?

[stoic goblet]

aux gear

[uncut pollen]

Oh also Ark Royal is amazing after retro

[tender sundial]

oh

repair and hydraulic

[stoic goblet]

he dun need ark, his ships for backline are fine

tbh

its gear issue prolly

[uncut pollen]

They are, but opsi

[stoic goblet]

oh epic

[uncut pollen]

It's worth mentioning at least

[tender sundial]

Like it was semi-close. Maybe I was expecting more

[tender sundial]

I probably shouldnt have let it auto for first min or so though so kinda my b lol

[stoic goblet]

etcl tierlist has pretty gud gear guide

you use it for gear

[uncut pollen]

No, you full auto lol

[tender sundial]

Oh I do use that

[uncut pollen]

Who even manuals campaign outside of w14

[stoic goblet]

no need to manual

manual is very overkill

and tedious

[uncut pollen]

Manual literally invalidates comp issues 99% of the time

[tender sundial]

Well im not sure then. I was running howe/monarch/enty and port/helena/sandy and my vanguard got wiped during the actual boss fight

[uncut pollen]

Levels and gear prolly

Because howe monarch enty is very good backline for bossing

[tender sundial]

Like I've already full cleared 10-3 once with my original set, but I manualed so :p

[uncut pollen]

Sandy isn't particularly tanky but I don't think that's your biggest issue

[tender sundial]

Ya that was my boss fleet

[uncut pollen]

Yeah swap in kron

[tender sundial]

I think Kron will fix my issues here

Idk about 10-4. might have to level

[uncut pollen]

Might just be dps thing with your vg + level because level diff is like 50% damage lol

Are your skills maxed

[tender sundial]

Wait if ur below the boss level, dmg is 50% less?

[stoic goblet]

no.

[uncut pollen]

2% per level up and down

[stoic goblet]

if you out of ammo, damage is 50% less

thats why you never use mob fleet on boss fight

or boss fleet on mob fight

[tender sundial]

Oh ya I have ammo during boss fleets

[uncut pollen]

Yeah we're talking about level diff

[tender sundial]

My MOB is perfect. works like a charm. not even close with rich now

Just boss that needed wprk

[uncut pollen]

You have percy so mobs are anyways

Percy is her own tier

[stoic goblet]

if you are 1 level below enemy, you take 2% more damage and do 2% less damage, this debuff stacks every level @tender sundial

and the opposite is true

if you 1 level above enemy

you do 2% more damage and take 2% less damage

[tender sundial]

mmm i see. No wonder my lvl 121 formi was doing so much dmg lmfao

Ya Ill probably just flmb kron and use her to push through it

[uncut pollen]

Yeah this is why if you've tried low level pvp even meme 1:1 fleets with 125 ships will wipe the floor with you

[tender sundial]

Should be enough

[uncut pollen]

50% more damage taken 50% less dealt

[tender sundial]

Ya Percy is insane

stack her with Volga

and MMMM

nothing dies

[uncut pollen]

Tbh since you're at w10 just push through 10-4 then farm with oil cap lol

[tender sundial]

For sure

prob what ill do

[stoic goblet]

volga is mostly dps keep in mind

[uncut pollen]

Volga's kinda overkill with percy where you are in the game

[tender sundial]

@stoic goblet Ya, but extra heals is noice

[uncut pollen]

Yeah, but you could slot another dps

[stoic goblet]

you might use uh

indep

indep clear shit faster and shes a beast

ig volga is a fucking beast too

[uncut pollen]

^ indepkai good

[stoic goblet]

[uncut pollen]

Volga is, but her damage is inconsistent, weirdly wants flag and doesn't have a crossfleet to buff enty

So indepkai does help there

Percy kinda invalidates mob healing reqs

[tender sundial]

I dont think I have independence

[uncut pollen]

Core data, 1.2k

Best buy there outside of white/black shells

[tender sundial]

Oof ive been buying other ones

well im close to 1200 again

so ill get her next

[uncut pollen]

How many pairs of white/black are you on

[tender sundial]

I think I have a bunch of the white ones

From various unknown sources

But black is almost non existent

[uncut pollen]

Boxes, purple ones prob

You can't box blacks, get 3 pairs of gold whites and blacks

Purple is fine if you wanna buy indep instead but transitional for bbs

[tender sundial]

well like for my rich i have a white shell and a fire control

I think Howe and monarch have something similar

[uncut pollen]

Yes but you want to pair a black shell with it

[tender sundial]

the exact same

So a white and a black

instead of fire control

[uncut pollen]

Mhm

[stoic goblet]

fire control fire faster after preload so it nice for fast clearing

[uncut pollen]

Yes, because 1 buffs your crit dmg 1 buffs your crit chance

[stoic goblet]

black shell is gud too i suppose

[tender sundial]

alright well Ill put that on the backburner for now and leave it as it is

since i cant afford anyways

[uncut pollen]

Yeah prolly get indep first

If you have gold uss planes she's even better but don't bend over backwards for it

She does fine w/o the buff

[tender sundial]

Alright well I think these should get me through 10 for now right?

Especially with lvl ups

Maybe even through 11?

[stoic goblet]

should help you through w13 as well

w10-13

all steamroll

[tender sundial]

Really? lmfao

[uncut pollen]

Expect to have to gear AA a bit for 13

[stoic goblet]

ig you need a bit more aa for mob vanguard

[uncut pollen]

Sandy exists tho so

[stoic goblet]

i mean sandy already on boss

so uh

[uncut pollen]

Yeah

[stoic goblet]

need to put indep with volga and perseus

on mob

[uncut pollen]

Do you have a sexy bofors on sandy

[stoic goblet]

should hold off w13 tbh

[tender sundial]

I have other bofors

[stoic goblet]

prolly raise a cheshire to be sure

[tender sundial]

But ive been using that

[stoic goblet]

mostly gear and ship level

[tender sundial]

cheshire over like le malin?

[stoic goblet]

w13 want 115+ ships and +10 gears

[tender sundial]

or neptune?

[stoic goblet]

[uncut pollen]

Eh good enough lol you'll get it eventually (assuming you're pr3 focus)
cheshire is another aa carry

[tender sundial]

Well I'm only w10 right no

[stoic goblet]

yea you can easily clear w10 rn

and w11

[tender sundial]

so Ill worry about w13 way later

[uncut pollen]

Yeah you have event to level with

[stoic goblet]

btw, you only wanna reach 12-1 @tender sundial

[uncut pollen]

(And waste time on)

[tender sundial]

Ya so I should have cheshire by 13

[stoic goblet]

cuz 11-1 and 12-1 are the best exp farm places in this game

[tender sundial]

@stoic goblet why?

Oh really?

noice

[uncut pollen]

Just number issues

[stoic goblet]

11-1 for exp, 12-1 for cog chips and exp

12-1 give less exp than 11-1

but cog chip is poggers

[tender sundial]

Also how does event help with leveling?

I have so many cog chips. like 40k

[stoic goblet]

its pretty shit exp but its exp

[tender sundial]

Unless it's the blue ones?

[uncut pollen]

You're grinding event pts for the bURin so you'll just get exp while doing it

[tender sundial]

dark*

[stoic goblet]

no its the ones you have 40k

but like

[uncut pollen]

Dark ones you save for rainbows/good backline ships like enty

[stoic goblet]

its only for fleet tech @tender sundial

[uncut pollen]

Very very very rare

[stoic goblet]

fleet tech need you to like 120 like 200 ships

so like the cog chip total cost is fucking huge

you dont need to worry about it for now tho

and the foreseeable future

[uncut pollen]

^ arbitrary number that doesn't matter unless/even if you do harbiter

[stoic goblet]

its uber late game shit

[tender sundial]

lmao

aight I wont then

Btw for like other ships. Like let's say im trying to grind the xp for agir

In 11-1

Would I just farm it to the point where i get enough dmg resistance

[stoic goblet]

man gph is being wild

[tender sundial]

so that my weaker IB ships can farm it

[stoic goblet]

witch burning rn

cuz someone said pepega shit again about enterprise being meh

[tender sundial]

ya im seeing some of that lmao

[stoic goblet]

yea after safe mode uh

just use what you want to level

and level to 120

11-1 also give hella coins

[tender sundial]

Okay so once I've 100% 11-1, im in safe mode?

and then I can farm any ship, even low lvl for xp?

[stoic goblet]

noh, after you clear stages after 100%, you get dmg resistance

like 2% damage resistance per clear

[vagrant yoke]

maxes out at 20% dmg resist

[stoic goblet]

ye

[tender sundial]

so clear 10 times after 100%?

[stoic goblet]

ye

[stoic goblet]

you will see a stage is safemode when the danger level is green

so uh

ye

[tender sundial]

Okay ty. Amazing how much I didnt know lol

I appreciate all the help

[stoic goblet]

also oil cap exist after 100%, so its cheap to farm

and you should 3:3 run full fleet when farming

and turn auto explore on as well

cruising

[tender sundial]

auto explore?

You mean just auto?

Like clearing mode?

[vagrant yoke]

Auto clear...it automates movement as well as roles such as mob & boss

[tender sundial]

Wait you can specify which is mob and which is boss?

When autoing?

[stoic goblet]

yes

you can choose which fleet is mobbing and which is bossing

[tender sundial]

whaaaaaatttt

[tender sundial]

How

[stoic goblet]

@tender sundial

[tender sundial]

ohhh

so the flagship will only attack boss fleet?

[vagrant yoke]

Yep

[stoic goblet]

can also make 1 fleet kill everything including boss

but ye

[tender sundial]

cool. man how am I lvl 73 and dont know these things lmfao

how have I made it this far lmaoooo

[stoic goblet]

yea its day 1 stuff

but its relatively new feature

[vagrant yoke]

^

[tender sundial]

Well I will be powering to 11-1

most my issues will be solved hopefully at that point. only leaves me cubes. I dont have enough for pity so I'm praying out here lmao

[vagrant yoke]

Oh my goodness they are still talking about Enty's powerlevel vs Helena

[tender sundial]

I only have 229 atm so

Are they??? lmao

They are both really good. who cares?

lol

[stoic goblet]

its just pepega dude doesnt understand basic statistics

we have a lotta hot takes today

[stoic goblet]

yea good luck