world 13

[toxic kindle]

boss fleet

[upper valve]

boss fleet is highly sus

[toxic kindle]

my vanguard is pretty bad

was using laffey since start of the game

[half jackal]

move lusty to vanguard, move uvh to boss

with lusty on vanguard you can move sandy to boss too

between adal and kronk not sure who is more tanky, move the tankier one to boss

[upbeat flame]

vanguard? you mean mob?

[toxic kindle]

wat does

vanguard mean

[half jackal]

yeah mob fleet

[toxic kindle]

is my mob fleet

overkill or something

[upbeat flame]

no its to balance out so your boss fleet has better aa

[half jackal]

no not really, but you need better fleet for boss

[upbeat flame]

cuz currently your boss fleet aa kinda bad

[toxic kindle]

oh

[half jackal]

unicorn + 2 CV is enough to go with mob fleet, pretty safe

just need more aa/dmg to boss

[half jackal]

swap helena and sandy and I think it could go

might need to manual boss on 13-3 and 13-4

[toxic kindle]

does it matter where ulrich is

flag?

[half jackal]

not really

yeah flag

not like warspite need flag

[upbeat flame]

off flag do more dmg

[toxic kindle]

kk

[half jackal]

13-1 and 13-2 quite easy

[toxic kindle]

should i 125 sandy next

[half jackal]

no need, it helps but no need

get volga and lusty lvl up if your mob is struggling

[toxic kindle]

also isnt perceus coming soon

[half jackal]

I think I beat it with lvl 118 volga

perseus might come within next 2 weeks, and you need 2-3 weeks to level her up too so if you can wait a month, sure

[upbeat flame]

ye, you can replace unicorn with her for just better heals.. if you really wanna tryhard tho, you can replace volga with independence and run her with percy, but i think your current fleet will do

[upper valve]

I would dump Warspite for Saratoga. 5 CV 1 BB just plays better on 13-4. Warspite doesn't really do what you want on 13-4 anyway. Always barrages at the wrong thing.

[upbeat flame]

anyway, try with current fleet, if it doesnt work you might have to level other ships

ideally it runs fine without needing to level anything else from scratch

[toxic kindle]

kk

btw for hard mode

[half jackal]

yeah replace warspite with saratoga will do

[toxic kindle]

how do i increase trp

u need 2.4k to do world 12 hard mode

[half jackal]

torp CA, DD, gnei meta, tosa can pad torp

2.4k is a bit much tho, you might need like 4 DD to reach it

[toxic kindle]

uh, yea this mob fleet isnt working for 13-1

[half jackal]

who's dying?

[upbeat flame]

planes overwhelm you or not doing enough dps to nuke down the big bois?

[toxic kindle]

planes

illust took half hp

[half jackal]

aa issue then

[upbeat flame]

btw do you have your formation as the aa one?

[toxic kindle]

wut

[upbeat flame]

you should have that on the aa one at all times during w13 at least during first clear

[upper valve]

SMKZ, YKKZ, Naganami. You can sneak some torp in with KagaBB

[toxic kindle]

okay i switched illustrious with ulrich and shes carrying lol

so just have to see how boss is

[upbeat flame]

dis

[half jackal]

you need a lot more dmgfor boss

[toxic kindle]

oh

i dont think so

lemme check

[upper valve]

Illustrious is pretty bad so yeah. You can try bringing a 1 corsair, 1 rocket loadout for more damage

[upbeat flame]

put that to circular defense, it increase your anti air by 20%

[toxic kindle]

kk just did

what settings do i have subs on

[half jackal]

just ignore

[toxic kindle]

my subs are alright

[upbeat flame]

just put on stationary, on bossfight, you can move them in and press sub button to summon them when boss show up

to make bossfight go smoother

higher damage yk

[toxic kindle]

yeah

[half jackal]

I don't have subs so can't comment

[upbeat flame]

its a pretty nice nuke button for hard content

[toxic kindle]

is centaur really good for world 13/14

or should i hold off on gold bulins until perceus

[upbeat flame]

yep, her aa is quite good, actually you should use her too kek

since shes leveled'

[toxic kindle]

shes not leveled yet

i was planning on working on her next, just finished my subs

[upbeat flame]

oh wait nvm i thought shes leveled

[toxic kindle]

but i heard perceus was coming

im working on monarch atm, she's almost pr30

[half jackal]

yeah monarch good choice

murder all W13 bosses

[upbeat flame]

independence should also be very good as anti air, should be better than both volga and illustrious, so shes an option, as for frontline, you can use london kai to replace an shan since an shan aa damage is uh, pretty bad, ideally tho cheshire is the best, but i dont think you have her just yet @toxic kindle

[toxic kindle]

dont have independence

i dont have cheshire, i have her unlocked but need ship xp

but its scuffed cause i dont have any royal navy ships to get xp

[upbeat flame]

you can buy her from core data shop

for 1200

[toxic kindle]

i have like 200

lol

[upbeat flame]

she also buff enterprise so it nice damage

[upbeat flame]

this might sound very extreme but, if you like dont want to raise multiple ships and just want to get ez clap on w13 only, you can raise isuzu

she drops from 7-3 and basically functions as a second san diego, issue is that uh, once you raise her and beat w13 she will be pretty useless

cuz after beating w13 you will slowly work to get cheshire kek

[toxic kindle]

oh

just mixing ships around atm

is world 13 even that great to farm

[upbeat flame]

at least independence/london/centaur and perseus and cheshire, the ships in your check list are very useful even after w13, even not on your current fleet they are good on opsi team

no

w13 is decent plates farm but thats about it

[toxic kindle]

oh

world 11/12 is better?

[upbeat flame]

best exp and gold farm still in w11, best avg is still 12-4

[half jackal]

W12 is better to raise ships while getting some coins

[upbeat flame]

13-4 is for uh, plates

[toxic kindle]

oh

[half jackal]

you can drag 3-4 trash ships through 12-4 and still fine

13-4, good luck with that

[toxic kindle]

you can carry lvl 1 ships?

[upbeat flame]

yea by the time you can safely spam 13-4 for plates, you probably dont need plates anymore

[toxic kindle]

like backline ones

[half jackal]

not lvl 1, but lvl 85-ish should be fine

[toxic kindle]

oh

yeah prob not going to bother with world 13 atm then

dont even think its worth it

[upbeat flame]

mostly ppl spam 13-4 for the ship drop

cuz you know, collection

and the flex yk

[toxic kindle]

how long does it take to get her

lol

[half jackal]

just get lucky

[upbeat flame]

well drop rate is unspecified but if its the same as akagi/kaga, like 0.7% iirc

took me 2 weeks of everyday fucking farming to get new orleans tho

[toxic kindle]

so wat fleet would be fine for 12-4 farming then

isnt it kinda a waste to use lvl 120 ships cause im not getting more xp

[half jackal]

just put 1 good tank and 1 good CV on mob fleet, the other 4 slots can be lvl 85-90 and you can go from there

[upbeat flame]

ye, best exp farm is like 11-2 btw

exp to oil

and 11-4 is best gold farm iirc

[toxic kindle]

wats 12-4 for

just overall?

[upbeat flame]

12-4 is a good mix between exp and oil, but doesnt beat in exp or gold

compared to 11-2 and 11-4

[toxic kindle]

oh

wat lvls can i do 11-2 with

i didnt know these are good to farm lol

[upbeat flame]

oh like, assuming you taking advantage of oil cap (as you should be), honestly a 3:3 fleet of lvl 100ish is fine

or let a lvl 110-120 to carry lvl 60ish ships

assuming uh, the ships you trying to level arent dead weight

[toxic kindle]

[upbeat flame]

by dead weight i meant like, Oklahoma level shit

[toxic kindle]

is it fast to lvl up ships

prob going to have issues on gold bulins lol

or is purple ships worth leveling up

[upbeat flame]

cuz later on in endgame grind, you have the option to do fleet tech stuff, which is leveling up very random and specific trash ships to get extra stat

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

and that involves leveling random freaking blue/white ships

to 120

[toxic kindle]

is there any priority on purple ships

thats worth leveling

[half jackal]

on average it takes 2-3 weeks to level a ship to 120, not too bad

[upbeat flame]

i mean the ones we talked about, those purple are really good

there are other ones like portland kai

ark kai

usually the ones are retrofitted to gold at some point

[toxic kindle]

kk

[upbeat flame]

game can be pretty overwhelming cuz so many good ships, but ye your list of leveling target is pretty gud rn

just focus on the ones you tryna do and worry about other good stuff later

[toxic kindle]

also when do u guys use the x2 oil consumptions

[upbeat flame]

any time i can

i dont save those

cuz why

[toxic kindle]

oh

i was gunna say if its worth just saving for events

or something

[half jackal]

nah

[toxic kindle]

ah

[half jackal]

they don't really yield any benefits, aside from saving time

[upbeat flame]

i mean if you really tryhard uh, you can wait for an event that drops 138.6 or the russian dd gun @toxic kindle then spam 1:1 with double drop

and assuming you the type of tryhard that does that

[toxic kindle]

na

[upbeat flame]

youd have saved 80k oil already

so you do that shit for like 8000 times

LMAO

[toxic kindle]

btw so im most likely going to be leveling up more non-gold bulin ships because

those are time gated right

u barely get any gold bulins outside of weekly/events

[upbeat flame]

well early game and mid to late game you just focus on 2 fleet of 120, then you expand

on endgame stuff, you expand it much wider cuz fleet tech

[toxic kindle]

ah

[upbeat flame]

like, you need to level up 34 random shit for the cv/cvl reload tech

[toxic kindle]

i'm close to that then

[upbeat flame]

for that tryhard helena cv fleet yk

[toxic kindle]

yeah i havent really touched

any gear stuff

i dont even know how u get specific stuff from opsi

been just killing stuff with my stamina

[upbeat flame]

like i mean, 2 fleet of 120 right, you can always switch around

and look for better options

so its more than 12 lvl 120 ships

[toxic kindle]

ah

[upbeat flame]

like for example, you have a maxed unicorn, you swap to perseus and try to max her, cuz perseus is god

now you have 1 more lvl 120 in your dock

[toxic kindle]

do u just use xp packs

to get ships to lvl 80?

then farm 11-2

[upbeat flame]

yea thats what id do

get your 2 fleets to as good as possible

put leftover lvl 120s into your third and fourth fleet on opsi

[toxic kindle]

recently i been just using xp packs to get a bunch of random ships to lvl 70 for limit breaking

i unlocked every ship in shipyard except sakura ones

[upbeat flame]

after that you level up more ships to perfect your third and fourth fleet on opsi as well

and after that you become me

leveling random shit for fleet tech

[toxic kindle]

i been trying to collect everything since i started

havent missed an event ship yet since december

[upbeat flame]

try not to do that, cuz rn you dont even have 2 cracked teams yet

so uh, just level useful ships for now

[toxic kindle]

well im done doing that

i was doing that to unlock agir and drake and fdr at first

and when i did do it, it was useless

cause i couldnt even use them

[upbeat flame]

as for research uh, try to go for anchorage before agir and drake

[toxic kindle]

well i went for agir cause i thought dr15 was fine to use

[upbeat flame]

anchorage is tankier than drake and on par with agir (slightly less tanky bc fuck heavy armor big hp agir)

[upbeat flame]

ye but, anchorage team invul

[toxic kindle]

btw how does opsi work

[upbeat flame]

even tho she herself is less tanky, she makes the entire team more tanky than an agir team

[toxic kindle]

like getting mats

am i suppost to do every daily mission

and stuff

[upbeat flame]

you need 4 teams, usually you will need to use 3 out of the 4 teams before your mob fleet become ultra cracked

[toxic kindle]

oh

so just do anything until i have my teams ready

i been just using 1 team

lol

[upbeat flame]

and then uh, you first time clear every stage, then you do these treasure box stages until they run out, then the strongholds until they run out (only try stronghold when you have good adept stats)

then you spam corrosion 5 stages

[toxic kindle]

yea struggling to do that atm

[upbeat flame]

yea uh, once you get perseus (assuming you get her and shes maxed), it becomes much easier for opsi or any general mobbing

cuz perseus is god

[toxic kindle]

shes coming soon

[upbeat flame]

usually like all the other content, in opsi you use mob fleet to clear all the mob fights

except in opsi, you use mob fleet to clear bosses too

[toxic kindle]

do u not auto opsi

[upbeat flame]

ye you auto opsi

[toxic kindle]

are u able to set a fleet to only kill boss?

[upbeat flame]

for me, my mob fleet can clear every boss in every region and all the stronghold and stuff except the center of map arbiter boss and abyss boss

but ye, before my mob fleet became that

[toxic kindle]

oh i meant boss as in

the node bosses

[upbeat flame]

oh you dont need a boss team for that

[toxic kindle]

like mobs+ boss mobs

oh

[upbeat flame]

just mob fleet trample them

[toxic kindle]

is it suppost to be long before being able to unlock a single gear

[upbeat flame]

for first clear for sure, cuz you need to speed run through all the stories and stuff

[toxic kindle]

i think im stuck on chapter 4

[upbeat flame]

and then uh, after you finish story, you go set it on auto explore and go to sleep

[toxic kindle]

i dont see story progression after i completed chapter 4

[upbeat flame]

after a night of straight auto farming

after you clear them

i think you can unlock some gears

[toxic kindle]

how do i progress story after chapter 4

i cant find anything on chapter 5

[upbeat flame]

oh ye chapter 4 is last chapter before arbiter

so uh

after chapter 4 just clear all the map nodes once

after that do all treasure map

[toxic kindle]

oh

chapter 5 doesnt show on map?

i mean missions

[upbeat flame]

chapter 5 is arbiter

[toxic kindle]

[upbeat flame]

arbiter fight imo is just as hard as some of the w14 bullshit

hard arbiter*

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

ez arbiter is uh

ok

[toxic kindle]

so im basically done with story

just clear stuff

and do missions

[upbeat flame]

ye, thing is you can set up auto clear and just use all your ap stuff, set auto clear and go to sleep

its what i do

[toxic kindle]

does it matter the corrosion level

or just set to explore

its annoying when the map is like hidden out

so i have to manually click on mobs

[upbeat flame]

just set it to explore, assuming your fleet is strong enough ye

[upbeat flame]

you can mark out the high corrosion levels on auto explore btw

so you can just make it auto clear all the low level ones until your adept stats are high enough to clear high corrosion

[toxic kindle]

is it only high corrosions where its blacked out?

like u can only see like 4 tiles from ur ship

[upbeat flame]

no

its all zones on first clear

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

just recon

[toxic kindle]

so literally beat every node once

and i can perma afk

[upbeat flame]

ye, and every reset you can spend 5k oil to buy the logger and perma afk, literally 1 time done deal

[toxic kindle]

wats the logger do

i brought it but idk wat it does

nvm i lied

i didnt buy it

[upbeat flame]

it makes it so that you get a high adept stat on the start

[toxic kindle]

so i prob should buy it lol

[upbeat flame]

and all the black nodes are now grey, so you can now auto explore all the grey ones

its for lazy people like me

if you are a tryhard that like to manual everything

[toxic kindle]

just got it

[upbeat flame]

its actually better to not buy it

oh

lol

[toxic kindle]

wut

i just got it and it gave me max adepts

lol

wats bad about it

[upbeat flame]

ye, and it makes all the black maps grey (if you cleared them before)

so now you can uh

auto explore

[toxic kindle]

isnt that fine

[upbeat flame]

ye but, if you manual everything

its more efficient to manually click through everything from the start up

with 0 adept all the way to max

[toxic kindle]

im lazy

[upbeat flame]

but i cant be fucking assed to do that every month

ye

most ppl cant be assed to do that every month

[toxic kindle]

also in the city shops

wats priority with special tokens

all UR designs?

then t3 development stuff

[upbeat flame]

thers a limited amount of items per shop

so like, if you buy all the shit ones

you only get the good ones on the shops

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

theres a big pool

so buy everything

[toxic kindle]

kk

[upbeat flame]

if you grind operation siren everyday, you should be able to buy everything

as for hard part uh

[upbeat flame]

a lot of the good shit from opsi are from the shop right, and they require the purple coin, they are very limited, and the best way to get them is through strongholds

and well

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

strongholds need you to use like 3 fleets

[toxic kindle]

yeah i cant do em

is it harder to get gear designs or development materials

if i had to choose one

[upbeat flame]

usually the early-mid game players do like half of them, get out and heal, come back and continue

cuz uh

your progress on stronghold is saved

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

so you can practically cheese it

if you have like 1 good fleet

cuz even the boss hp is saved

[upbeat flame]

so if you down like 30% boss hp, you get destroyed, get out and get to port and heal, come back and boss is missing 30% hp

so you can do that, its just a tad tedious

[toxic kindle]

so for explorable, i should just focus on 4 and under

because i'll prob get rekted on corrosion 5/6?

[upbeat flame]

5 and 6 arent hard really, but for you i think it might be, just explore 5 and 6 only once you get high adept stats

[toxic kindle]

well i got the 5k oil thing

dont i basically have high adept stats

[upbeat flame]

oh ye just clear all the c5 and c6 nodes now

more mats = more upgrades afterall

gonna maximize

[toxic kindle]

also is gold plates that good

i havent really brought any from guild shops

cause they expensive

also 1% damage didnt seem that much to me

[upbeat flame]

so uh, yes they are really expensive, but it fucking increase the modifier for your main gun every time you level a gun beyond +10

so its really good if you can afford it

[toxic kindle]

also im really close to getting the rainbow triple 234mm main gun mount (need 7 bps)

who's that good on

was looking at the guide, and i dont really see any of my ships that its used for

like ulrich or warsprite

[upbeat flame]

everyone that can equip it kek

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

its the best in slot on everyone that can equip it except uh

kron

[toxic kindle]

yea was gunna ask about her

[upbeat flame]

kron is better with her russian gun and seattle gun

[upbeat flame]

ofc uh

you can put it on drake once you get her

and drake being the highest dps gun boat in the game

with her own gun, its pretty nice

[toxic kindle]

doesnt it take forever to get her to dr30

[upbeat flame]

for pr and ur uh, the more dev30 ships you have, the faster it is to dev 30

because once you dev 30 and fate sim 5 a ship (if fate sim is available), that ship is gone from research pool

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

so if you fate sim 5 mainz

you will no longer get mainz research

[upbeat flame]

so if you like, fate sim 5 every pr ship, you will only get rainbow research as fate research

[toxic kindle]

do people like

use 1.5k gold for a bp

i been only doing the discount/day

until i found out that u can farm world 11 for gold lol

[upbeat flame]

well, the fastest way to get all the pr ship to dev30 or fate sim 5, is by using cubes

you know the blue 3 cube research

yea ppl spam that

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

and after a month or two of doing that, all the face research you get are rainbow

then you start getting 10 rainbow blueprints a day

or even more

[toxic kindle]

how many cubes is that

[upbeat flame]

[upbeat flame]

you dont wanna hear the answer to that question

[toxic kindle]

[upbeat flame]

it does get you a leg up tho, since if you say you tryhard

and get all the pr done now

if pr5 come out

you will only get pr5 ship researches

ofc there are still coin ones and the others

but its a pretty good leg up

thats why you see whales saying "i finished pr4 in 4 weeks after it came out kek"

[toxic kindle]

i just spend money for pass and packs sometimes

havent really brought any skins yet

[upbeat flame]

ye uh, its unnecessary really

[toxic kindle]

[upbeat flame]

but the speed of maxing a rainbow ship is like quadrupled

lmao

like, i tried to do it legit

for drake, my first rainbow project

took me 11 months

[toxic kindle]

[upbeat flame]

everyday research, 11 fucking months

[toxic kindle]

[upbeat flame]

and with the cube boost and enough maxed pr ships, it took me like 2 weeks to max azuma

[toxic kindle]

well i'll consider it at some point when i get a job

aka soon

[upbeat flame]

yea

but thing is

you dont really need dev 30 rainbow ships

like dev 15 or 25 agir is fine kek

[toxic kindle]

opsi is so afk now lol

it was so cancer doing it manual

before i bought the 5k oil

[upbeat flame]

yea

and uh, at some point

this really is just min max shit

[upbeat flame]

you will be trying to formulate a team that do the most damage towards a meta boss

thats when you get into the level of fleet tech stuff

[toxic kindle]

[upbeat flame]

for me uh

i do usually 1.2 million per fight on avg against this meta boss on lvl 15, aka max level

but i can improve it more by min maxing my fleet tech stuff

and straight up kill the boss every fight

[toxic kindle]

btw is there a lot of these file missions. 0 ap maps for files

just going through them and getting a lot of materials

[upbeat flame]

oh these are limited in amount

once you finish them all you wont get them anymore

[toxic kindle]

oh

im just hoarding all my mats atm anyways

no idea wats good/bad

also prob should only save my gold plates for rainbow gear

[upbeat flame]

ye thats good

just hoard, once you feel like you wanna craft

just craft what you need

like uh, tigercat is a good plane to craft

bidder is really good sub torp

and the neptune gun is really good too

[toxic kindle]

yea i was looking for bidder

cause all my torps is purple atm

[upbeat flame]

staag/fp aa gun is also really fucking good

[toxic kindle]

like i only have event stuff

and gear box stuff

[upbeat flame]

yea so it be a nice upgrade

but keep in mind

most of the gear lab stuff are side grade guns

like gold diver is like only a tad better than hell diver

[toxic kindle]

oh

[upbeat flame]

but it cost a lot to get gold diver

so try to get the gear that you have none of

like if you dont even have a good fighter

get tiger cat

etc

[toxic kindle]

i have a ton of helldivers

and other stuff

[upbeat flame]

ye

so like

spend smartly

but eventually uh, you will have all the good shit, and will be just hoarding stuff up all the time

cuz no place to spend

[toxic kindle]

[upbeat flame]

but thats a long way to go

oh and another thing

if you trying to min max your mob fleet, try to get preload ships

they really good at fast clears

perseus being the special case she is has 2 preload, but after perseus any more preload is overkill