#Rock - OpSi fleet building

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Will post pictures of my dock in a bit

ornate lark
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ornate lark
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I know some people entertain the idea of having a mobbing fleet in OpSi, but I feel like it makes more sense to only have boss fleets given that the truly difficult part of OpSi is the boss stuff. I'd rather have a bunch of good bossing fleets to throw at Arbiter and Abyssal and stuff like that before having to go repair at a dock and restore morale

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well u still need to clear zones so a mobbing fleet is still actually needed if u want to do it comfortably

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moreover a good opsi fleet will still allow u to auto clear strongholds up to final boss

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If you mean the first clears every month, I let my fourth fleet, which I dedicate to leveling ships, take care of it

ornate lark
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so you do have a mobbing fleet...

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Not in the sense that I put it together for that purpose primarily, but I guess so, yeah

ornate lark
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so thats fine

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3 boss fleets + lvl/mobbing fleet is what people usually run

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Then I guess I wasn't compromising for the sake of free XP after all. Then that's that, now I just need to put together the best possible boss fleets

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mob macro polo volga chise azusa +2
boss 1 biskmarck august graf zepplin adal +2
boss 2 warkai UVH gneimeta kron helena +1
boss 3nagato shoukaku zuikaku/akaga /enty indep essex chikuma +2
it hard to know what is best
so i just some option that you can use

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Just in case, I will mention that my fleet tech bonuses only give a global RLD boost of 4, so if Haku not being dev 30 is a concern, I don't think she will be much slower than my other MLB'd options

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personally i am right now running
dev 30 fdg UVH perceus kron + 2 mob fleet
it basically can clear 95% of opsiren on it own PortDoll

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so

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you can put all ur best stuff in ur mob fleet and run something like:
gnei meta UVH volga kron shimakaze haruka for mob

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A number of the ships in the screenshots taken don't have their skills leveled at all. For the purpose of making the best fleets in the present, it might be worth listing the ones whose skill levels are high enough: Akagi, Kaga, Nagato, Taihou, Azusa Miura, Haruka Amami, Bismarck, UvH, AvP, Graf Zeppelin, Kronshtadt, Hakuryuu, Enterprise, Laffey, Shimakaze, Yuudachi, San Diego, Warspite, Independence, Prinz Adalbert, Illustrious, Unicorn, Chikuma, Z46, Saint Louis, Amagi, Ibuki, Gneiseneau META, Souryuu META

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So I guess everyone not in this list, while not that far-off build-wise, goes out the window

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mob: gnei meta UVH volga kron shimakaze haruka
boss: essex indep enty azusa helena portland
boss: bismark graf zepplin august adalbert z46 roon
boss: nagato akagi kaga chikuma yuudachi ibuki

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level ship that buff main fleet

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if you have kazagumo level her up

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try to get agir and dev 30 hakuryuu too

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that a power up

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same with dev 30 FDG

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unicorn might be better than volga

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but i digress

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Would those boss fleets change at all assuming I didn't spare anything in particular for a mobbing fleet?

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wdym

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For example, I wonder if Shima could take up a spot in one of the boss fleets

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well you should put uvh and gnei meta somewhere

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sure

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shimakaze can be in boss fleet

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like replace z46 or ibuki for example

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I had an idea as well for potential boss fleets, wanna hear some thoughts:

  1. Bismarck-AvP-Graf + Adalbert-Z46-Sanrui
  2. Warspite-UvH-Enterprise + Azusa-Sandy-Haruka
  3. Nagato-Hakuryuu-Taihou + Kronshtadt-Shimakaze-Yuudachi
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do you have strasser?

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Afraid not

night stag
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hakuryuu is not dev 30 yet , so probaly not

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sadge

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if dev 30 i would go nagato haku soukaku instead

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try to fit helena somewhere there

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If my Essex's skills were leveled up, I could've put together a nasty combo of Enty-Essex-Indep(?)

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Helena isn't built at the moment, will have to tag her in at some point for sure

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haruka if not mob is not worth using tbh

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sandy isnt favor in opsiren either cause aa isnt needed
make her only a decent gun cl

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well that about it PortDoll

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night stag
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she still be slow

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you lose out on like a hundread blue print worth of enhancement

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that is a lot of stat

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unless you like dev 29

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yeah not dev 30 is also missing the enhancement levels as well

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She only becomes not slow at dev 30 thanks to being MLB and gaining access to fleet tech boosts, right?

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na

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she also gains the enhancement

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Yeah, she gains 10% more damage roughly as well

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its like using a ship without them being fully enhanced here

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which might seem small, but since shes a PR/DR its slightly more relevant than it seems at first glance, esp for the reload

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My Haku's early dev 27

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well you aren't using helena in that fleet anyway

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so should be fine to just slot her in

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But, well, I guess it's true those enhancement stats aren't negligible

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good enough to be used ig

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damage is basically already there, and the reload doesn't matter that much since you aren't timing with anything

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I can't deny I'm kind of suffering from a lack of options. I'm reluctant to use Akaga alongside Nagato because I don't currently think they would outperform Taihou and dev27 Haku

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I also get Sandy's whole shtick is giving you leverage in fleet building by solely covering any AA needs, but not sure who else to go with. Would Laffey or Ibuki dish out more surface damage?

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Haruka is also kind of filler, but the blow is softened by that damage taken debuff which only lasts 5 seconds copium

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I guess, at any rate, I now know for a fact that I need to level Essex's skills ASAP. Maybe Roon's as well, and presumably she would replace Sanrui on fleet 1) and enter 2) because of Roon benefitting from Bismarck's buff

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so like

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just use her PortDoll

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ibuki is better vs heavy armor though

ornate lark
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well u can put her in place of z46 or i guess to somewhat help with keeping stealth

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even with Bisco buffs sandy should out dps viersechs

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so u wont really lose surface dmg by doing that

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Could be. But at the moment, Sandy has to fill in spots in fleet 2 until I get Roon and Helena leveled

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Otherwise, fleet 2) is kinda crippled

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sure, just telling for later i guess

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I also feel like me leveling Essex's skills will radically change things. Once that happens, I think I will have enabled myself to put together a USS boss fleet

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I guess it'd be something like Enty-Essex-Indep, maybe + Azusa-Sandy-Helena

ornate lark
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ehhh u dont really want to take out Helena out of BB fleets

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as she is really the only actual buffer for them

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and u raise ARA ships for your CV fleets

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So she's particularly good for BB DPS ships

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or like use Balti for US setup

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its not that she is specifically good for them

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its that BBs dont have access to other buffers

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while CV's do

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so its about spreading your buffers/debuffers properly

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helena and indep don't sync well as well

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gotta keep that in mind

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Makes sense. Then I ought to keep Helena in the same fleet as UvH and Warkai

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yep

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Would a fleet of Enty-Essex-Indep and Kronshtadt-Sandy-Laffey be better than Nakaga and Kron-Shimakaze-Yuudachi?

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id honestly run nagato akaga

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In that case, here's my takeaway: at present, my best 3 OpSi fleets are

  1. Bisko-AvP-Graf + Adalbert-Z46-Sanrui
  2. Warkai-UvH-Enty + Azusa-Sandy-Haruka
  3. Nakaga + Kron-Shima-Poi

Top priorities for building and skill leveling: Helena, Roon

Once that's done, replace Haruka with Helena, Sanrui with Roon and Sandy with Sanrui. Sound about right?

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Leveling Essex seemed important to me at first, but now that I know the fleet I could build around her buff won't be better than the gist of what I already have, I don't know. I dunno if she'd replace any individual ship in any of the fleets either

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no need for roon

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adal azusa kron enough

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also im assuming your agir is coming along nicely as well, which further invalidates roon

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i would replace z46 with sandy, then haruka with helena, rest is fine as is

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oh PortDoll

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well in any case adal azusa and kron are all better than roon

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oh wait nvm then

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my bad UniHurt

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use sanrui in fleet 2 then w/ uvh

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sandy should be with the cv fleet so she helps keep stealth

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you can leave z46 with the kms

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I figured Roon would be a good short-term investment because AFAIK she should have similar damage to Sanrui on a level playing field, but takes advantage of Bisko's buff

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Which would then enable me to put Sanrui in fleet 2 instead of Sandy, which I guess could be better

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na id honestly use ibuki or chappy there instead of roon

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Then I guess Sanrui or Ibuki would fill in for a while in fleet 1. By any chance, would any of the following outperform them: Pamiat, Kiev, Chapayev, Tashkent

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Assuming skills are leveled of course, at the moment they are not

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thats a great question

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id just use ibuki cause its temporary anyway

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I assume Ibuki and Sanrui are relatively even

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If that's a true statement, then I think I might wanna go with Sanrui, she's better built than Ibuki in my case for now. Also, given that Sanrui's a gunner and Ibuki's a torper, that gives me reason to think the former's more consistent

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sure

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Well then, thank you for your time. I think I'm all set now