W13 Fleet building again | Azur Lane Official | Page 1

green shore Mar 28, 2022, 11:59 AM

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Here posting pics

brave sluice Mar 28, 2022, 11:59 AM

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Noteshiro

green shore Mar 28, 2022, 11:59 AM

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mint meteor Mar 28, 2022, 12:00 PM

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Glowow bruh

tacit girder Mar 28, 2022, 12:01 PM

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Was it your mob or boss that had issue?

green shore Mar 28, 2022, 12:01 PM

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Well if I encounter a single Cv fleet in mobbing, I die, like instantly

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So boss fleet I had, idk, never got to it

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I am on w13-2 now, but I can’t even auto clear 13-1

tacit girder Mar 28, 2022, 12:03 PM

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Was Centaur/Chise Indep Uni not good enough?

brave sluice Mar 28, 2022, 12:04 PM

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Boss:
Monarch Enty Essex
Adalbert Helena Sandy
Mob:
Lusty Centy Uni
Poi Seattle(?) Shima

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Wasn't sure about Seattle

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anyone that has good AA can in Seattle's pos

green shore Mar 28, 2022, 12:08 PM

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Rikka can apparently AA Mob

brave sluice Mar 28, 2022, 12:10 PM

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Yeah, use her

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Forgot about her

green shore Mar 29, 2022, 5:02 AM

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So, if someone were to use Akashi in W13, how viable would she be, and what fleet

gray oracle Mar 29, 2022, 8:25 AM

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So whats the Setup?@green shore

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:16 AM

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Mob

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Boss

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@brave sluice how are these?

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 10:26 AM

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I'm not sure about Ark but that might do it, it's probably better to put Rikka in mid pos then YuuKai in off

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:34 AM

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well its Ark or Sara, and sure, thought that about rikka

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so idk who would be better

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 10:38 AM

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green shore Boss

@midnight salmon do you think this will work in w13? I wasn't sure about Ark but maybe you have some opinions about it

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:38 AM

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w8, let me read

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:38 AM

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idk how well an AR will work, but if they do, ill need to level one

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:40 AM

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idk about mobs, lacks a healer there, will be high pressure on both, Main/VG but boss seems solid enough

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 10:40 AM

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You might aswell just level Lusty than an AR

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:41 AM

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Uni in Mob over who?

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:42 AM

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AR will just make the pressure on ur VG even higher that with lacks of a healer will be a huge downside aside of it, u will lvl AR just for W13 and will be 0 uses after it

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first try this fleet, pay attention on it, if something goes wrong back here with reports

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we can make different plans if needed

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 10:44 AM

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Also, if you did plan on leveling Lusty, replace Centaur with her and put Centaur in Ark's position

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:45 AM

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Can only boost to 85

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:45 AM

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Yuudachi is a great tanker for W13, imo swap Rika and Yuu pos

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:46 AM

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you mean off tanker

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:47 AM

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she is light, majority of dmg on W13 is from AVI, Light have advantage on this, Yuudachi stats + light armor grant her a good survivability on W13

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but the major faction for i say to swap rika/yuu is cuz lvl mechanics

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:50 AM

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ok SS will be incoming every battle jsut for updates

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Battle against Main fleet, hp left

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 10:51 AM

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I never really used subs even in 13-4 BuckyPrideAnim

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:51 AM

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some bosses will need SSs Support, so keep at least 1 use

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:51 AM

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SS is screenshot

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for me

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i jsut say Subs for subs

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 10:52 AM

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Oh

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:52 AM

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ops, sorry i get used to SS= Submarines

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 10:52 AM

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Me too XD

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:52 AM

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2nd battle against a Cv fleet

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:53 AM

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dont fight CV mobs on W13, specially 3* CV

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:53 AM

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Ah

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So even a healer is pointless

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If I use a healer against a 3 star Cv fleet it won’t work?

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I stg auto correct saying healer isn’t a word

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:56 AM

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will depends alot on many factors ...
Gears
Lvls
Other ships
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Budget fleets and Gears cant be done perfectly
ideally fleets with real gud Gears can done perfectly

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:56 AM

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well i can put a tigercat on Uni

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i have gold catas

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and i have some decent gold AAs

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its just her secondary plane slot

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:57 AM

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but ur main will still get dmg and cannot be heal by Uni/Shou, probally Aquila isnt enough to keep them "safe", things like Ryuuhou/Volga can be safe thing, or Persy/Volga...

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 10:59 AM

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I can volga, maybe, but not others

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 10:59 AM

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Budget options cannot be done perfectly some things will be hard or even impossible to be done, if u wanna rush for it without properly ships/gears u have to ignore somethings
like: Cannot fight 3* CVs, Cannot get 3* stars while on Lethal, some ships will die on fights, isnt S rank granted, etc...

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:00 AM

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i just want to unlock auto farming so i stop using 12-1/12-4

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:01 AM

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them just dont face it 3* CVs to clear ... once u clear and set to safe will be easier to 3* CVs mobs ...

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:02 AM

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3rd battle, 3 star Vanguard fleet

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:02 AM

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but even on safe if u face too many 3* CVs with budget fleets u can sometimes face a loss

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keep going, maybe u can do it, its 6 fights i think

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:05 AM

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4 and 5

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:05 AM

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keep going, almost done with mobs

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:05 AM

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btw this is 13-2

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6

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SilverSweats

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time for boss

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may need subs for boss

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guaranteed

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Adal sank at 2:07 left

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:08 AM

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its only shoukek, maybe not, on 13-3 and 13-4 mostly like u will need

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:08 AM

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1:47 left on timer, boss dead

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:08 AM

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so its done 13-2 ?

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:08 AM

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Post boss

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thats 1 attack down

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5 for clear?

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uhm..

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:09 AM

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13-2 = 4

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:09 AM

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i just realised centaur had no aircraft on...

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lol

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only a torp bomber

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gonna try with Sara this time around

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also are submarines affected by the ammo buffs

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like if i had 2 ammo left, theres no +10% dmg

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:16 AM

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to be honest never pay atention on this, but i dont think that SSs have Ammo buff

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if works like it is, why change ?

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:17 AM

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i want to check, cause slightly more aa with a fighter, and ark got destroyed tbh

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4 Cv fleets krisuDead

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After a 2 star Cv fleet, I gave a tigercat to Chise, and a pr4 fighter to enty for boss

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i think preload with a Tigercat good

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:20 AM

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green shore Post boss

Ark is alive here

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:20 AM

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midnight salmon Ark is alive here

barely, i wanna see how more fighter may go

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also adal died

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so if more aa pressure saves her, then ill do it

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:21 AM

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CAs suffer from AVI DMG, specially one with low AA resistance

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:22 AM

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Ah, didnt know that

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:22 AM

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so basically any KMS CA will take ALOT of dmg from AVI

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ships like SF/Ancho are better for tank on W13

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:22 AM

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maybe YuuKai tank in boss?

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:22 AM

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but the best one is Cheshire

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:23 AM

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When I dev her

near wasp Mar 30, 2022, 11:24 AM

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Prinz also kinda underlevel, 104 vs ~118 enemies

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:25 AM

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Port died on mobs, cause unlucky rolls

near wasp Mar 30, 2022, 11:26 AM

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Shima in boss maybe, will help mob with cross-barrage too

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:26 AM

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but shima for who? helena? sandy? Adal?

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:27 AM

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Shima in mob, replace Yuukai, put Yukkai in Adal's position

near wasp Mar 30, 2022, 11:27 AM

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Usually keep Helena on boss, i'd go with adal swap

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:27 AM

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That might work

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:27 AM

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so sara is a no

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:28 AM

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lol

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Talk about barely

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:28 AM

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vanguard lived... but that main

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:29 AM

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but Adal got more or less 1/4 hp

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:29 AM

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Adal lived, main almost died

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:29 AM

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brave sluice Shima in mob, replace Yuukai, put Yukkai in Adal's position

Try this

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:30 AM

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How’s this?

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:30 AM

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lacks survivability

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:30 AM

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can do +11 toolkit(maybe)

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:30 AM

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Toolboxs are better than report, maybe 2xToolbox, u are pushing content

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:31 AM

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just slap 2 +500hp or if she's surviving slap 1 +500hp and a rainbow dildo

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:31 AM

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dont need to +11 toolbox is a waste of gold plates

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:31 AM

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nvm can only +9

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:31 AM

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focus ur gold plates on bullets/rudders ...

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:31 AM

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That's fine, ig

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:31 AM

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i didnt have either of those

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i do now

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but when i did +11

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:32 AM

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also STAAG will be a better option for her if u have to spare

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:32 AM

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Leave on Chise or give to ark? (Going to try ark with this loadout)

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staag for shima?

near wasp Mar 30, 2022, 11:33 AM

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For HIT i think

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:33 AM

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All of these plus 25mm

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:33 AM

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mobs wanna paralel torps like Wyvern, Skypirate or Barracuda
Boss wanna convergent TBs like Junker, Ryuusey, Tenzan

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keep 25, u STAAg is prio on BBs/CVLs

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:34 AM

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i have 2 40mm

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and a spare sextuple

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:34 AM

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naah, STAAG is a small buff to them, Heze is even less

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:35 AM

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40mm to monarch, staag to shima?

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:35 AM

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keep it at it is, cuz BBs are prio

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:36 AM

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maybe put the sextuple on Port or Helena?

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both using quad bofors

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:36 AM

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Put sex on the ship with highest AA

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:37 AM

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well sandy has 1

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:37 AM

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Oh you have 2

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Pog

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:37 AM

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its either 1 for mob or 2 for boss

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:37 AM

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Boss have bigger need for better AA output

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:37 AM

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so its either helena or shima

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:37 AM

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with KMS Ships on Auto 3 134+13 can deal with mobs, but cant deal with bosses (on safe btw)

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:38 AM

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Put it on helena
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/857941918494359568/958691474701185094/compare.png

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:38 AM

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well i took off adal

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:38 AM

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so i suppose that More AA output is a bigger need for bosses

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:38 AM

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so wait, i should put my 134 on adal?

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its +12 rn

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:39 AM

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nope, that comment is just to u understood the difference between needs of AA on W13

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:39 AM

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oh mobbing only

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:39 AM

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134 AA is bad for AA real foching bad for it

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they shoot once and cannot kill many Planes with it...

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:40 AM

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yeah aa always confused me

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:40 AM

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put 134 on Helena, if you want to use 134

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:41 AM

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nah im giving her the sextuple

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:41 AM

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not on W13, 134 have a huge RLD Time, will foch a bit with AA Output

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:41 AM

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so with boss subs, do i have on auto, or manual call in when boss spawns?

brave sluice Mar 30, 2022, 11:42 AM

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ThinkZed

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manual call

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:42 AM

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ah k

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My options feel limited

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:43 AM

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NagaThonk
can work on auto, if u reach boss faster will be a huge help, but if in a DPS race u are losing change it to manuel and call on the time boss came

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:43 AM

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tbh, the original reasons i didnt wanna use my URs, theyre maxed out, so it feels pointless

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as theyre both DDs anyway

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whelp, time to fight 2 2 star Cvs

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:45 AM

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well, u are pushing content ... its painfull and can be REAL hard try to push content with no maxed ships ...

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:46 AM

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its only cause theyre dds and theyre at 3mil xp cap

near wasp Mar 30, 2022, 11:46 AM

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6 ammo on subs, use em unless u rationing oil

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Also those DDs will also get used in w14 m8
tho i do feel the pain of xp loss

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:47 AM

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kinda rationing oil and saving hp for boss

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i guess i can use for now for kitakaze

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for her xp collection

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Manual sub call, my subs sunk, but at end you can still see the ammo buff lol

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My sub fleet

near wasp Mar 30, 2022, 11:50 AM

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#3? So 1 more NepSmug

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:52 AM

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yup

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:53 AM

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green shore My sub fleet

thos auxs ... move Pressure Hull for 101, put Autoloaders on everyone else

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:53 AM

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double auto?

near wasp Mar 30, 2022, 11:54 AM

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Yeah subs have like 30s of "invulnerability" so they can forego tools

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Usually try to end within those 30s for no dmg on 'em

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 11:54 AM

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yeah these were on cause i was doing the weekly

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that thing is a nightmare, still cant beat hardest difficulty

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 11:58 AM

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dont overlook Level Mechanics ...

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for each 1 level its 2% less dmg deal and 2% more DMG intake ...

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 12:12 PM

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I will say this: Monarch, Sara/Ark, Centaur, Indep, Rikka don’t have maxed skills yet, Rikka is almost maxed though

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 12:13 PM

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nice, done with 13-2 ?

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 12:15 PM

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Unless 3star/ safe mode unlock now, but yeah

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Kind of a piss poor reward for the fact I spent 70 oil/fight

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 12:17 PM

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at least u take some reward...

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 12:19 PM

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50 oil…

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70x6x4

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960 more or less on mobs alone

midnight salmon Mar 30, 2022, 12:20 PM

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them dont progress and stay farming on W12
stonks

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BuckyPrideZoom

near wasp Mar 30, 2022, 12:21 PM

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Yea first clears are rough
It's cleared now tho so oil cap & danger lvl will help with the other star(s)

green shore Mar 30, 2022, 12:22 PM

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I could farm event, but like, no

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Only got all this left, 3/5 coins left though

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But tbh, do I need half of it

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I’d rather farm story

green shore Mar 31, 2022, 2:15 AM

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@midnight salmon how viable would seattle at dev 30 be for w13, and who would i even replace for her if so

midnight salmon Mar 31, 2022, 2:15 AM

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she is way better as DPS than "AA Carry" mostly cuz her AA output is less than Sandy

green shore Mar 31, 2022, 2:16 AM

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so she could in theory be boss dps?

midnight salmon Mar 31, 2022, 2:18 AM

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yes, she can be used as Boss, but works on Mobs as well

#W13 Fleet building again