#W14 Help PLOX
digital rock
will u manual or auto?
agile basalt
Manual
Currently
Mob: UVH/Percy/Shinano + Mainz/kita/Poi
Boss: Nj/Enty/Aquilla in heal setup + Azuma/Shimakaze/jda
is this good? It's getting oneshot like on 1 mob fleet
whole hedge
on manual? uh
shouldnt be happening
also tbh i'd put uvh in boss and add nagato to mob. yeet enty, imo nj uvh healquila is very solid
tropic magnet
manual you should've saved airstrike to delete BB shell
whole hedge
also what is killing you anyway
ember horizon
I would prefer noshiro over mainz for main tanking 
whole hedge
mob: nagato/percy/shinano + poi/sanfran/kita
boss: nj/uvh/aquheala + azuma/shima/jda
should work very well for manual imo
ember horizon
Yea that works
whole hedge
uh yea well
you gotta time your damage to take out the big threats
airstrike to clear shells (or torps if vg is suffering)
move vg to bodyblock rammers if needed
move vg to dodge
digital rock
whole hedge
move vg to aim at specific targets
facetorp when needed
dont forget to aim your bb properly
idk
manual is something you learn by doing it
w14 improved my manual a lot
agile basalt
agile basalt
Nagamon gear correct?
digital rock
i do not read boss or mob?
agile basalt
Mob
agile basalt
I'm seeing this as BIS for W14-3
For Aquila
I'ma show gear first
This is main fleet
digital rock
its all based on auto
agile basalt
I said I was gonna manual.
digital rock
my recommendation is to tyr it with those fleets sometime su need to end the fight mob or boss an repeat
agile basalt
?
digital rock
but befor u entar any fight relocate your subarines
u can leeavy mostly an ymob fight an resart
agile basalt
Typos, I presume?
digital rock
if your girls get to hard on their nose reststart that fight but i costs oil
agile basalt
my recommendation is to tyr it with those fleets sometime su need to end the fig...
My recommendation is to try it with those fleets sometimes you need to end the fight mob or boss an? repeat.
Sorry I'm trying to make sense of this. Restart the fights if I lose.
digital rock
dont focus on 3 staring the map first try to kill bosses
agile basalt
Am I manualing or autoing?
digital rock
n manual
agile basalt
So, I'm manualing. Got it. My gear is correct or?
digital rock
if u want a showcas i can show u w14-3 if prob the hardest
whole hedge
wait why mainz
agile basalt
whole hedge
mob: nagato/percy/shinano + poi/sanfran/kita
boss: nj/uvh/aquheala + azuma/shim...
sanfran mid will make life easier 
agile basalt
wait why mainz
digital rock
your gear is fine im more offence based no fire extinguishers etc just hedgehogs on mobs*
agile basalt
Yesterday I asked for help and this guy gave me this. I'm not doxxing but just saying.
Some advice here on this discord is questionable.
digital rock
how do u play on the phone or on pc + an app player?
whole hedge
personally i think sanfran mid helps a lot but sure
agile basalt
how do u play on the phone or on pc + an app player?
Phone.
whole hedge
but anyway those fleets should stomp w14 on manual 
agile basalt
but anyway those fleets should stomp w14 on manual <:PortDoll:585585241142591535...
Either I'm playing wrong or fleet's not working.
agile basalt
can u get leaggs if too much is happening?
legs?
digital rock
Phone.
if u get sign of any lag of freeze try to hit the upper right exit button as fast as possible*
agile basalt
if u get sign of any lag of freeze try to hit the upper right exit button as fas...
I'm not lagging when I play.
Am I supposed to grab the flares first or no?
agile basalt
14-3.
spice swallow
hello gamers 
whole hedge
spice swallow
I see this is gaming thread for w14
digital rock
restart 14-3 until u get 2 to 3 dd notes dont go for any bb notes
spice swallow
ah yes rerolling for good mob spawns for 10 oil. very gamer
whole hedge
ah yes rerolling for good mob spawns for 10 oil. very gamer
that's what i did a lot
digital rock
yep you bestwin is 3x dd note 3* on the map mostly
on teh start
and relocate your subs
for the time of safety
whole hedge
3x dd node 2* is the best 
gl getting it though
and not possible on 14-4 before clearing mode
the lighthouse blocker is always a 3* dd
digital rock
never got 2* dd note
digital rock
if the i saved tehm for last
agile basalt
I just got one lol
agile basalt
AFter the 3rd fleet my whole team just sunk.
whole hedge
AFter the 3rd fleet my whole team just sunk.
how
agile basalt
Either I'm playing like shit or. Lol
digital rock
do u guys have discord where we can talk an to each other our and show teh games^^ games?
spice swallow
activating lighthouse works for every fight. mob and boss.
so idk why the fuck would you say to activate lighthouse on boss only
agile basalt
So I'm assuming Vardrag has no idea what he's talking about.
agile basalt
Got it.
spice swallow
agile basalt
He was asking me about lag and I'm confused how lag has any roles in this.
whole hedge
ok russ i leave u to help them, i gotta calc fleet tech for my alt
spice swallow
you're the manuel player here and you're forcing it on an auto player
very gamer
fine
whole hedge
i got spreadsheets to do
agile basalt
Theres a suicide boat that comes in 7 seconds into the fight and crashes 10 seconds in
Am I supposed to respond with insta air strike?
spice swallow
if you have a bb in mid with a good aux gun for interception, it wont matter much
but you're using a nepgun on nagato. use the 155kai on her
spice swallow
uvh mob
agile basalt
One ship just goes to oh she's gonna die mode. Each time
spice swallow
shinano and uvh mob with percy
agile basalt
spice swallow
ah i see
agile basalt
I'm not trying to dox people, but yeah they said it.
agile basalt
Hence why I said some people's advice here is questionable.
spice swallow
ok gear check. lemme see the gears you have on your fleets
o nvm it's already posted
agile basalt
Check the other thread from yesterday
spice swallow
this is 14-3 yes?
agile basalt
Yes
spice swallow
do you use asw equipments on your mob?
agile basalt
Alright ima post gear just to be safe.
Mob: UVH/Percy/Shinano + Mainz/kita/Poi
Boss: Nj/Enty/Aquilla in heal setup + Azuma/Shimakaze/jda
This is mob fleet
Boss Fleet
whole hedge
i still think sf mid > mainz
spice swallow
if your mob's having survivability issue, you can put jda in the middle of poi tank and kitakaze ot (if kitkat is f5) then move mainz to boss fleet ot
agile basalt
Sadge Kita not F5
spice swallow
hmm
digital rock
hmm i tested light ous with our wouthout lighthouse ull struggle
somehow always saved it for boss^^
whole hedge
hmm
agile basalt
Fate Sim 5? No. Sadly
spice swallow
ok
agile basalt
Basically all the Dev girls are like not even past 2.
spice swallow
boss fleet: nj/enty/aqheala + azuma/noshi/mainz
then go with uvh/Shinanope/percy + poi/jda/shimakaze on mob
spice swallow
uvh with 406mk6, triple155kai or twin 150kai, staag, rudder+white shell (or switch rudder with tower if she's surviving)
shinano double dbs with wyvern (if you have). standard barra works as well
percy with the same loadout but change skypirate to barracuda if she's not clearing trashmobs during shinano's downtime
poi with tashgun, then toolbox + hedge
jda with washy + torpbulge/toolkit
then usual shimakaze with depth charge + toolbox
the reason why I'm recommending this is because jda can supplement vg survivability along with shima's good mob clearing. you're playing on manual so you'll get to clear them alot more easier
in my experience, twin 150kai (german cl gun gearlab) works well on 1BB mob setup in w14. so there's that. but the 155kai works well since it fires off he rounds perfect for the rammers which are lightly armoured
also if you're deploying subs, make sure to deploy them on specific timings (2:45 on bb nodes, since there's 15s per wave and the upcoming waves starting that time frame is where the map spawns BB prod walls that will shell the fuck out of your backline. and 2:35 on DD nodes since the rest of the waves will be the map spamming jihads and rammers)
oh and before you ask why white shell on uvh, it's because I value hit more on a world that requires you to hit shit 
agile basalt
This is manual right？（spacebar being dumb)
spice swallow
an auto setup will work perfectly fine on manual. but a manual setup may or may not work on auto
and this is an auto setup
tag me if you get any issues with your runs. explain what happens, who dies, what time, so on and so forth
since w14 is just a massive shitshow of poorly implemented mechanic rng unga bunga
agile basalt
Alrighty I'll do it in a minute.
spice swallow
agile basalt
Just clearing some OpSiren stuff
agile basalt
uvh with 406mk6, triple155kai or twin 150kai, staag, rudder+white shell (or swit...
It's the same gear no?
agile basalt
shinano double dbs with wyvern (if you have). standard barra works as well
DBs? What am I using?
agile basalt
poi with tashgun, then toolbox + hedge
Tashgun?
agile basalt
then usual shimakaze with depth charge + toolbox
Depth Charge?
agile basalt
Your fine.
agile basalt
helldivers
What am I looking for?
spice swallow
same stuff as you have with your shinanope
and if you have a wyvern, do put it on shinano since despite planes not being a huge issue, it could still pose problems by unstealthing your backline, thus taking more damage from BB prods
agile basalt
What's that one?
spice swallow
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agile basalt
spice swallow
bless
agile basalt
Position correct for mob?
whole hedge
try auto first it might be better than your manualling
spice swallow
this
agile basalt
This is an auto fleet?
spice swallow
yes, but doing manual on an auto fleet makes it better by a mile.
whereas a "manual fleet" may fail to work on auto due to how niche manual fleets are comped
agile basalt
Ah
spice swallow
too many nuances that's included on a manual fleet whereas for auto fleets, it's a matter of dmg frame and windows 
and the AI doesn't give two shits on what nuances there is on a manual fleet when tried on auto
agile basalt
The UR ship in the back dies.
agile basalt
UV
spice swallow
lemme guess. it's a BB node?
agile basalt
I can't tell
spice swallow
the white ones (recon fleet) are called dd nodes
the black ones (main fleet) are called bb nodes
agile basalt
I'm fighting the ones highlighted in red
spice swallow
is it dying from shelling or ramming?
spice swallow
agile basalt
spice swallow
subs shouldnt be a problem since you have percy with 2 dds popping them
agile basalt
whole hedge
definitely use subs on 3* bb nodes
spice swallow
yep looks like you got hit with a case of bad rng where the map focus-fucked your uvh so bad
and that too^
hold up
a fleet like that and your recon value is still low?
spice swallow
whole hedge
how
spice swallow
exactly my question
agile basalt
Are you asking me or telling me?
whole hedge
shit i hope my planned fleets meet recon
spice swallow
percy shima enty aqheala should be enough along with 2DDs
whole hedge
only takes highest recon fleet
spice swallow
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
agile basalt
?
whole hedge
im guessing they're very close tho
my guess is percy not having any catapult may be the issue
whole hedge
yeah that may be what is missing for recon
spice swallow
getting peppered by planes for a couple of ticks is bad
so basically since your percy is surviving, have her with cata + asw
and your shinano with double cata
agile basalt
I'm on the boss now. Somehow auto worked but I'm assuming I got really lucky
whole hedge
if i math this right
spice swallow
ItJustWorksTM, my friend
whole hedge
14-4 recon needs 2180 combined eva+avi stat in 1 fleet
so u can work from there as needed
spice swallow
reset
agile basalt
Aquilla just died.
spice swallow
did you manage to kill the boss?
spice swallow
ye gearcheck on your boss fleet
agile basalt
So what's the gear on NJ?
spice swallow
tropic magnet
406mk6 or mk7
agile basalt
So people told me take that out
tropic magnet
14-3 boss is light armored
spice swallow
for the most part of w14 ye, but not 14-3
tropic magnet
so HE gun
agile basalt
It's on UVH
tropic magnet
use 406mk6 then
agile basalt
spice swallow
fire ext to white shell
agile basalt
That's it right?
spice swallow
spice swallow
LUL nah it's good vs med/heavy
tropic magnet
rammed?
agile basalt
Rammed, subbed and shelled
tropic magnet
what node did you fight?
tropic magnet
iirc
DD node are rammer (and sub?) heavy
BB node are shell heavy
1BB 2CV comp on manual will works better on BB node in my exp
as you can save more airstrike
to delete BBs and their shells
but will struggle in DD node coz 1BB usually not enough to deal with the rammers
agile basalt
Aight my team is just dead dead again. Kinda frustrating because I just wanna see if I got the skin for New Orleans
tropic magnet
on manual?
agile basalt
Went to manual. Fleet just completely got dumpstered on first node.
spice swallow
I mean your run earlier worked and you got to boss. so that should tell you that it works, but you just get hammered hard by bad rng
one bad rng on mob can cost you your run
so if you see your mob fleet getting smashed or having one or two ships considerably on bad hp lvl, just reset
so just do what you did on your earlier run. it worked, and it will work again
agile basalt
Just level and manual?
agile basalt
Feels like it's undoable.