#Yami need your help!
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now give dock picks
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Yes give dock pics
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obtuse grail
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smh faria
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that is a very gamer dock pic
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sure sam
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yes
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he already sent his highest lvl ships tho
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with resets however
even with full fat gear +125?
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nj shinano enty kron shima jeanne
Uvh percy volga yuudachi retro kita rikka
Oh wait fuck
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even with full fat gear +125?
some people can fully auto 14-4 with ease but that's just boomer things
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There we go
Can always run rikka boss and jeanne mob, or throw in sandy kai somewhere
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no sandy, she is dead weight compared to all of those listed 
also where is Olmen with his dev 25 fdg is good for w14 mobbing take when u need him
but on an actual note from what u showed Yami, sams fleets look good
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freddy gaming with -33% dmg 
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Well d25 fdg is worse than uvh
So
Also make sure to swap vanguard around in mob if stuff is dying in one slot
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Also make sure to swap vanguard around in mob if stuff is dying in one slot
It just W14
how hard can it be
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just
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a fleet with just a hedge on 14-4?
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what's with that AA gun 
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i only use that aa fun as place holder use what ever better u have^^
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not using 134 on tashkent in w14 
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That's a gamer move
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dinst saw pokai does he have her?
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And sandy is a dd in disguise anyway and shes probably better than tash here
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there are subs in mobs
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then its pokai sintead of tashkent^^
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ngl with just a hedge, it's going to be a pain
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so u want Hedge + asw plane
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subs leak are real
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Ectl did only a hedge
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In their sample fleet
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they must have gamer glasses then
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Think they had odin so maybe that helped
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Ow look another questionable thing in that guide i missed 
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Idk
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so u want Hedge + asw plane
will the black cats (read: catalina) enough for ASW plane?
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u want depth or hedge
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Ow look another questionable thing in that guide i missed <:ShiSleep:77150734606...
The most questionable thing is the use of an fs5 azuma in a new players guide
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and ye tbm plane asw for backline
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use the tbm from gear lab on your cvl
tbm?
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ye
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What is that
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this thing
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its in gear lab
u use it as CVL aux equip
also remember about rudders/FE's for your backliners
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fire extinguisher
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i dindt check guys for ulrich this time^^
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also 150 kai best secondary for w14
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but for mobbing the 406 i think is best
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nj shinano enty kron shima jeanne
Uvh percy volga yuudachi retro kita rikka
Wait you want 2 DDs and 1 CL in mob? like no tanker?
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poikai is tanky enough
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your DD is the tank
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rikka as well
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But use CB as tanker in boss fleet
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w14 is a strange place yami
the fleetbuilding here is different to anywhere else in the game
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it's so strange that running warkai mob off-flag asw set up is 
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nah its still warkai in 2022
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UvH flag or non ?
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flag for mobs
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yes
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that just make her skill useless
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because better coverage with secondary
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who's going to intercept if she's not middle?
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well D30 your FDG if u want to run UVH offflag
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lvl her up
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if u want a fleet for rn
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booba lv100 w14 very gamer
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How about independence instead?
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Is fighter on Shinano?
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thats why i said to sort her out
14-1/2 u want a fighter and 14-3/4 u want to run 2xDB + TB
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2 for Perseus and Indep?
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1 on percy should be enough
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And the mob fleet need 1 hedgehog and 3 fire?
And I only use HE shell on 14-3 right?
other just AP?
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yes u want hedge on one of your vanguards
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cant u make it +10?
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cant u make it +10?
Can't now
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well u wont need it before 14-3
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https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/fleetmaker?c=Y3rMeLqV6zQTt3cFGwP3NAYmNiYGKK/bh42Jm5EBSe4cIwMIMPOAqdN+DExp6gynV7KAuQwA something like that for the boss fleet maybe
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so see after u clear 14-2 if u have enough then
also yes u want either rudders or fire extinguishers on your backliners
both mob and boss
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also yes u want either rudders or fire extinguishers on your backliners
Wait, backline?
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and NJ wants an AP gun everywhere but 14-3 yes Yami
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o you've never thought a rudder backline works huh?
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u can use fire extinguishers if u dont have rudders
but yes u want a defensive aux
on each of your backline
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u can use fire extinguishers if u dont have rudders
Like take out Black Shell and 1 Steam for Rudder?
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yes
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welcome to w14
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W 14 has a lot of backline pressure Yami
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it's fine. once it's on safe you can go back to offensive gears
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So no need Rudder for Vanguard?
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if u dont have enough rudders
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if your vg is 3DDs, ye you dont need rudders 
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I have 7 Rudders
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prio vanguard
whats left feed first to flagships
then those who dont get to have one just use fire extinguishers
u have some right Yami
?
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So 6 rudders for Vanguard, 1 for flag ship, and 5 fire for other BB and CV
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u have some right Yami
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No I dont, I thought they useless so I deleted a lot
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nj shinano enty kron shima jeanne
Uvh percy volga yuudachi retro kita rikka
u have 3 dd's in those fleets Yami
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i u have jeann darc u can save those rudder for the vanguard in the boss fleet
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this, plus you can always reset if your backline hits the bad rng unga bunga
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1 for shinano and 1 for Indep i guess
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i still dont reccomend rudders for the flaships betetr save your timing for airstikes
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this is for auto not manuel
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not everyone has a gaming chair sadly 
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So 3 rudders for 3 DD, 3 rudders for fleet 1 back line, and 1 rudder for NJ?
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your DD's dont use rudders
Oh
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why are you so incessant on putting rudders on DD 
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OHhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Idk
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DD's use 2 toolboxes or equivalent
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yall said Vanguard Rudder Priority
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mob DDs use double box, box + deph, or box + hedge. no rudders
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or hedghogs/ depthcahrgers
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Here, let makes it easy. I have 7 Rudders who would it be
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i still dont reccomend cl for w 14 ca/cb + 2 dds
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gamer
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for mobbing*
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Here, let makes it easy. I have 7 Rudders who would it be
Rikka,Kron,Jda,UvH,Nj,Indep,Shinano
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i still dont reccomend cl for w 14 ca/cb + 2 dds
why not cl + 2dd on mob?
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now open some purple boxes and get fire extinguishers for Enty and perseus
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why not cl + 2dd on mob?
cl 2 dds also work depends on the cl^^
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or somehow farm 2 extra rudders for them
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so poikai kaza rikka wont work?
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But Perseus already have 1 slot for MBF, you want replace the other steam with Fire too?
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just put gamer glasses on your percy and watch her game 
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yes make 2 of those
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We dont have purple version?
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u have blue aux plates to make them +6 right?
Ez +6
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then dew it and give 1 to enty and 1 to percy
@neon citrus u take care of this for a bit i need to bounce for 5-10 mins
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k im back
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Check equip before I start
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finally
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now I can troll again
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Yami unless u believe in the heart of the cards use 2 toolboxes rather than 2 oxies on shima
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seems fine with jda but if you get hit with bad rng then you're fucked
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well if u want to very gamer and pray that rng doesnt ruin your day u can run 2 oxies
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yep
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not reccomending it tho at all
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double oxy for shima with gamer glasses 
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also swap sky vitter of rikka for rudder or toolbox
and u dont need the hedge in 14-1 and 2
so u can run a toolbox in its place in those 2 first maps
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Got ya
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also give Kitakaza and Poi 134 aa gun if u have them
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tracto buster calibur rudder + toolbox/hedge/depth for rikka mob w14 ye
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everything else looks fine
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time to game yami 
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just remember about HE gun for NJ in 14-3
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also give Kitakaza and Poi 134 aa gun if u have them
What is that?
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and reset if your backline gets rng-fucked
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134 aa gun is the hms gearlab twin
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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_134mm_AA_(QF_Mark_I)
I have none
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cant craft at least 1 for kita in gearlab?
But what is the reason?
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fp
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dakka bote wants more dakka
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and Kita likes FP very much
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I can craft some but I have to run several 12-4 for coins to upgrade
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well u can run it like this for now
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well what u have is good as well
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Lemmet run like 2 time 12-4
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yami is now a gamer
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im just min maxing it pretty much at this point. but i approve of your decision
very gamer of you Yami
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Can I run 12-4 with these fleet?
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yes
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that should suffice ye
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as we stated multiple times already
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fine show your subs
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what yall mean by RNG and reset?
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ah that
that's a great feature in w14
it's a feature where a single ship on your backline can be completely fucked to death
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I thought whenever you go on mob, and you restrict, it's gonna be out the battle
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yeah Yami, W14 enjoys randomly full bursting one specific ship
so u need to sometimes pause and exit
its allowed
u just lose 6 oil
and try again
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dd nodes on w14 will be rammer issue; bb node will be bb prod issue
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But like I have to do several mob before boss
If bad RNG hit on first mob
I can click restrict
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what if on 3rd or 4th or 5th mob?
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gotta make sure every run is optimal
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Still click restrict?
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it doesnt matter u just click pause in the fight and click leave battle\
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use subs on no-ammo battles if you can
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yes u can always leave
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I still cannot imagine what yall saying
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you'll see when you get there
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whenever we click restrict it's gonna make we start again?
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u dont retreat out of whole mapo
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on battles, you can click the pause button on far right then click leave battle
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u only exit and try again a specific node
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Reset HP too?
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as if it was before you entered the fight
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so how long will the bad RNG appear?
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its w14 so its random
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gotta wait 30s to see
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Oh
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so u kinda need to pay attention
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30 second mark is the definitive time to see whether your run is fucked
because that's when bb wall appears for bb prods
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How do I know that
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and that's when thiccc rammers start doing jihad things for dd nodes
well
you basically have to babysit your fights
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How do I know that
u will just see that one of your ships is either dead/dying or severly over dmged
compared to others
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if someone in your backline magically disappears or is getting fucked more than the rest, then that's a sign to reset
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then u just click exit and try again
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^
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Oh, like instantly damage shocking?
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yep
because two rammer bois can make one ship instantly disappear if left unchecked or if rng decided to thanos snap
and if one ship in your backline just decides to go commando in front of a bb wall
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How many time you failed to clear 14-1?
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eh
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14-1 and 14-2 is just tutorial
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14-3 is when the fun starts
actually 14-3 is the hardest map for mob fights
while 14-4 is the most difficult boss
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So W14 is mob harder?
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Yes
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Boss just easy>
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not really but ye
what makes mobs difficult in w14 is the shit mechanic + extra wave
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And what do I get when clearing W14?
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bosses are like mob fights with elite at the end
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And what do I get when clearing W14?
COG CHIPS
and some gems
also a chance to get and farm New Orleans for flex value
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3* bb node no ammo
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poor Volga 
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gib Subs Yami
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on W14?
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she gets unstealthed first for reasons unbeknownst to me
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yeah
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only 14-4
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Fk
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so thats why 14-3 is hardest
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So what do I do when out ammo
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you game
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yall need to check my sub?
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yes show
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we wanna see if you're uberprepped
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tho they just under lvl 100
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subs are important to help u
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it's fine
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I just start build my sub yesterday
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if they can clear a wave, they're already useful
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I dont have many good gears
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just show what u got for now
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smh its not general seren even though the statement is actually true
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I was farming for Anchor before this
But I think even I have Anchor right now
she would be dev 10
So just done this shit before doing Anchor
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run double helldiver shinano
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run double helldiver shinano
What is hell diver look like?
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run double helldiver shinano
14-1/2 fighter is fine
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I just spent some shit on gearlab, I not gonna do anything more
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also put one in slot 1
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14-1/2 got some BBV
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and we already told him to do that for 14-3/4
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xd
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So fighter is good until i go 14-3 and 4?
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So just ignore 3 stars and rush on safety mode first?
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drek bad
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thats the safe and not infuriating way yes
but u can try going for lethal 3 stars for very gamer flex
its not gonna be fun tho
and a pure rng fest
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I usually clear all enemies on first fight to get 3 stars asap before moving on on nest chaper
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u can do it on 14-1 and 2 sure
but 14-3 and 14-4 may prove more problematic for that
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14-3 and 14-4 is just purely a sweatfest for perfect rng
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What is the average reset?
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yes
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like 5-6 times?
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depends purely on your rng
u may even not need to reset once
in one sortie
and then 50 times the next one
there is no pattern
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you might as well bet on lottery than expect a single sortie no reset ngl
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So if my fleet going through without any ship being shocked in damage means I hit the right RNG?
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How long it takes for tall to clear W14?
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well not purely
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well i speedrun it in like 4-5 hrs when it come out
but u can take it slower
i just wanted to have that day 1 clear flex
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nah i was FDG enjoyer since the beggining
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that was me
actually i had honoka doa as my mob flag at the start
then i tried belo
then i got to richy
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What is yall fleet W14 Sam
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the scum oil mindset was still within me on clearing w14 so I hesitated on fdg mob because 19 oil 
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smh
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skill issue
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also @severe edge flex your subs because u still havent
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oxies over hull
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I dont have any hull yet
you know how much for the others 3
2k4 core
How am I suppose to buy 3 hulls
after that
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ye those subs should be enough to clear a wave
you only bring them to help you clear wave on mob and boss anyway
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god speed Yami
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wow this is the most I've been helpful
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Gamer w14 up
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absolutely sublime
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u still spent like 80% of time just reacting to what Sam or I said
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because yall got this so I can just 
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nah 14-1 also has
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14-1 ha an ammo node?
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yep
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didnt remember sry Yami
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it just wont matter much since it's tutorial
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not like its relevant
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oil cap after u clear
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after clearing ye
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at 100%
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Fk
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like all oil caps
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like every w9+ map
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and u arent oil scumming w14 yami
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o you thought w14 got some special feature besides fucking your meta ships?
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I dont think my 10k oil can handle this
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it can
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^
20k+ oil only occurs on fucked runs where you're too much of a gamer to admit defeat and die along the run
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Oh
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but if you reset runs, clear map without 3-starring it, then you can get to 14-4
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not bad
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gamer percy moment
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My Percy carry FBM
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does percy heals scale off of her avi or hp?
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Oh
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so having an asw plane shouldnt matter as much
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3rd battle?
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I feel wrong
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has the boss appeared yet
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No
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how many mobs done
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5
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swap rikka tank so she can prolong by healing + percy heal
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time for rikka to game
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and put poi off tank
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u can try keeping it going
but id just rush through
and think about 3 starring it after u are done
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its fine
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what a gamer
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Does boss has RNG too?
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the plan is to get to 14-4, not clear all enemies
with 10k oil, doing that on every w14 map will eat your oil away
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thas good Yami
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you having fun yet gamer?
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Like my first fight was straight to boss
now my second battle shocked Poi half HP at the first mob
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you're 1/4th gamer now
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Man
they need a feature to turn off skill animation when ship proc
it hide everything
cant see shit
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#game-feedback moment
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W14 gaming experience in a nutshell
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you can abuse rikka tank by having ryuuhou heal but it's up to you
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Is it the point to not to choose enemy 3 stars?
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Is it the point to not to choose enemy 3 stars?
well you want to save the 2 star for when you have 0 ammo
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yes if u can u avoid 3 stars
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especially if out of ammo
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but yes do as few 3 star as possible
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yep. either that or get blessed with mob nodes
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@severe edge rewind time come here
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@severe edge how would u feel about a small respec of your fleets for quite possibly easier 14-4
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u can just type again in a thread to reopen it Yami
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Oh
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I wanted to recheck your fleets and etc but i guess i already did it in just normal gph
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Lemme change real quick and you check
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and yes use AP for mobbing in w14, there is a lot of heavy and medium armour targets u want to kill
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Cuz they said 14-3 and 14-4 mobbing is the same
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and yes use AP for mobbing in w14, there is a lot of heavy and medium armour tar...
But the boss in 14-3 still HE?
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yes the boss is HE
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And the 14-1 14-2 14-4 boss is AP?
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yes
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granted it can work with HE guns i just found more success with AP guns
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lemme scroll back up to see what u got
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ffs seren
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if you're already hypercarrying shinano, why not bring a ryuuhou for DD pinpoint heals since you're also using rikka ot?
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he doesnt have ryu afaik
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<:gamerssex:944785440295231498>
recommend this in emo suggestion plz
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at least not lvled at all
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I dont have Ryuuhou at all
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see
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if he had i would insta reccomend it
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The only healer I have is Percy
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as for your boss vg
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and Volga 116
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fair fair.
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u dont really have thinks u could swap in there
that would be better
your Agir isnt dev 25
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yeah so dont bother
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I mean when UvH in Mob
I keep swapping her
ammo in off flag
no ammo flag
But when it came to the last 6th mob in 14-3
UvH flag kinda slow on firing
and I reset a lot
even give up
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yeah Yami u should try it this way pretty much, i dont really see any upgrades availible to you rn
also remember 2db shinano
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because the idea is
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the point of having nugget is to hyperbuff shitnano
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u get UVH crossfleet to help
and Shinano with buffs carries u through
with the sheer dmg output
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shitnano 2db setup wipes waves every wave spawn
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the point of having nugget is to hyperbuff shitnano
some said 300% damage better than 20% buff
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it wouldve been even better if u had kazagumo but u cant have everything
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what 300%
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how about that 20% buffing a 300% ship
while still bringing 100% of its own to the table
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also u can just keep resetting for 100% proc rate on Nagato barrage
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when at 0 ammo
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that's an alternative, but you already have the best mob setup you can have
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that's an alternative, but you already have the best mob setup you can have
Best?
I dont think so
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I will slap you
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Best setup would be FDG+Odin but u dont have either of them maxed so
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there is a guy recommend me use French ship in mobbing
he's a manual player
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he's a manual player
Oh, manual buff damage from french
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ye richy in w14 is just better by a mile when used on manual thanks impart of having to choose when to volley your preload
helps timing wave spawns as well
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Best setup would be FDG+Odin but u dont have either of them maxed so
I mean FdG is just several days
Odin?
why Odin?
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Oh, manual buff damage from french
more like, manual strategies are different from auto, and a lot more stuff works on manual
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Because Odin brutalizes W14 throuh her skillset
also dodges BB barrages by moving away from the spot they bombard
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if you're autoing you should disregard any manual advice
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who would've thought a ship that can pepper rammers and shotgun them in near proximity could be amazing in w14 where it's rammer issue all de wae
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ye richy in w14 is just better by a mile when used on manual thanks impart of ha...
richie is one of the best for manualling imo but fell really short when i tried to auto so ye
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Is there anyone in here manual?
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completely different game
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Is there anyone in here manual?
vardrag suggested french preload and hes manual
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@simple niche is a 
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i dont suggest w14 stuff usually bc i have way more experience with manual than auto so i leave it to pro people
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go with wrrrt's fleet comp. when you have fdg ready, that's when you'll start gaming
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So Yami if u want to wait for FDG dev 30 u can do something like FDG+Percy+Volga
in the backline
just raise volga in 12-4 while u wait for the last few prints
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So Yami if u want to wait for FDG dev 30 u can do something like FDG+Percy+Volga
Why is FdG batter UvH in mob?
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because her barrages are more powerfull
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uvh's proxy is 🤏
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I see UvH firing faster is already greater
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and her hp is 🤏 compared to fdg
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and her hp is 🤏 compared to fdg
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and her hp is 🤏 compared to fdg
the luck compensates for that tbh
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and just insta deletes whole waves
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and fdg enjoys a dmg reduc when uvh is sortied separately to her, which is needed in mob fights more than boss most of the time
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but yeah uvh boss fdg mob is typical
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the luck compensates for that tbh
luck is a skill, and fdg is already skillfull -Tsun Zoo
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Does FdG barrage guaranteed?
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i'll put you in the tsun zoo
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Does FdG barrage guaranteed?
fdg's barrage is guaranteed when she's hit, or there's an enemy near proximity. cooldown every 15s
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also FDG becomes tankier the less HP she has
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So the fleet that you give me rely on Nagato RNG?
neon citrus
it relies on shitnano to game
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whenever Nagato dont proc I reset?
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no it relies on Shinano to carry it
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But Shinano ariplane reload is long af
neon citrus
ah yes like nagathonk doesnt have a rld buff for ijn
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and u have A LOT of dps in your vg with kita and poi both buffed by shinano
neon citrus
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also Nagato helps with shinano rld
neon citrus
trash clearing issue
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look the shinano fleet works nicely
neon citrus
it's just a matter of your vg not being in the right spot to either pop torps to blow the remaining spawn
oh because
auto amarite?
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but as i said u can wait for FDG dev 30 and do that
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it's just a matter of your vg not being in the right spot to either pop torps to...
Year, about the enemy ring spot. I dont see any RNG when it keep spawn in middle
neon citrus
who would've thought mobs in the middle gets easily wiped
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but as i said u can wait for FDG dev 30 and do that
I will wait for FdG to clear 14-4
now I do 14-3 and the rest
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then also raise Volga in the background and use FDG/Volga/Percy for 14-4 mobs
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then also raise Volga in the background and use FDG/Volga/Percy for 14-4 mobs
And boss will be NJ-UvH-Enty?
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also for gear in the boss fleet
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Bring depth charge?
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give the 457 to UVH
neon citrus
you dont need asw on boss
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give the 457 to UVH
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and NJ the 406
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what a gamer move
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and NJ the 406
what does 406 looks like?
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that i showed u earlier
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I know 457 cuz it rainbow
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Oh
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this one
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Champpy gun
neon citrus
ah yes the 
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Champy gun
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yami im talking about 14-4 clear in the future
neon citrus
kgv quad
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sure
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not like u have much choice there
neon citrus
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well w14 is just a shitshow of shit being bulletproof for some and not working for others
neon citrus
it's not that they're weaker. w14 is a matter of dispatching hival targets like repair boats, rammers, and bb prods at the back
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Like Shinano in mob, the dead time is higher when Percy and Independence
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well thats also that the more i try using percy in w14 the less i like her there
speedruning waves isnt always good
but u have no ryuhou so we arent fixing that
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what secondary u have on her
neon citrus
ye
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can u upgrade it in gear lab?
neon citrus
no
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or no mats
neon citrus
155kai that shit
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the spread
neon citrus
nah dont upgrade it. let your backline die from rammers 
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u actually have all bullets hit
so it bursts rammers
in comparison to your version
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which wastes like 1/3 of the wave on missing
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Im not gonna lie tho
neon citrus
just kai the 155 that you have. it doesnt cost elecs.
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this fleet is worst than the first fleet
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then use the one u had before
and ill tel Newb tommorow that he is stupid or smthing
neon citrus
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or just wait for your FDG
neon citrus
ye tell him "imagine using hypercarry shitnano mob"
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Shinano is strong tho, she wipe the whole wave but the death time is higher, mean my Vanguard get hit more
And Nagato cant cover suicide boat like UvH
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its pretty much percy issue
speeding up the waves too much
so it desyncs from the setup too hard
so lets just abandon the idea
neon citrus
ye I feel like percy should be able to atleast safeguard vg during shitnano's downtime
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yeah, like Independence can fix Percy cuz she has lower time onplane
neon citrus
plus waveframes on every w14 fight shouldnt last longer within the 15-20s window
except for bosses ofc
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plus waveframes on every w14 fight shouldnt last longer within the 15-20s window
I reach the 1 min and half of my Vanguard HP is losed
neon citrus
I'm assuming that's on 0 ammo
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thats a percy issue
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That is the first mob
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for real
neon citrus
yep sounds like a percy issue
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yeah Yami lets just abandon it im sry
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you dont know how many time I reset just for a first mob
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i guess ryuuhou is too important for that setup
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yeah Yami lets just abandon it im sry
No dont sorry
You have better Idea
I dont have anything
yall help me a lot
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more reasons to tell people that percy isnt good in w14
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why say sorr
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I mean he was right cuz whenever Shinano proc she wiped like 2 waves at the same time but then the death time begin, Shinano reload + Percy reload
And my Nagato cant handle suicide boats like UvH
neon citrus
that's why newb uses nugget shinanope ryuuhou
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Maybe Ryuuhou is the main point
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yeah
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preload bad in w14
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good cuz i wasnt being ironic
neon citrus
ryuuhou healpoints a vg that's crippled as well
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The down time of CV + Percy very numerous
I think Percy only good when go with CVL
so the CLV can cover back 90% reload
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i guess one more option would be to feed nagato thishttps://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/High_Performance_Fire_Control_Radar
to try and bridge the gap that way
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Lemme try
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also @neon citrus what Kronk secondary train are u on
neon citrus
I'm switching between seattle and chapa
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here is the best result I can get with Shinano+Percy
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its not bad
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first mob
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I do all the time
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yeah it could work
neon citrus
- go fight mob
2a. good result? go onto the next.
2b. dont like the result? reset and bring sub
basically
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its not bad
I mean if you replace Percy with Ryuuhou, that wasn't bat cuz most of ships receive Nagato buff but Rikka
neon citrus
and use subs to on certain timeframes as well on every fight. you'd want your subs at 2:45 of the fight if it's against BB nodes so it can dispatch BB prod walls on the upcoming wave and can also help on the fight when rammers spawn. 2:35 for DD nodes due to high volume of rammers and jihads on the upcoming waves.
ok I'm done helping. time to game
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ok I'm done helping. time to game <:gamerssex:944785440295231498>
i hope its that 14-1 1:1 setup
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@neon citrus go help the other thread
neon citrus
14-1 1:1 too hard, I went back to 2-1 farming for cubes because fuck kron event
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wait really
