w13 help

[rough oar]

might as well post all ijn you have here

[wise sun]

give me a bit then

[rough oar]

and see can anyone build you a fleet for w13

[clear fulcrum]

wait why only ijn though

[wise sun]

because I would totally do so if I had the opportunity

waifu > meta

[clear fulcrum]

Alright faction fleet I'm out

[wise sun]

What I'm going to use currently (levelling mob fleet for now)

and all my IJN ships

[rough oar]

so

1 fleet

or 2 fleet?

[wise sun]

fleet 1. Although if you have recommendations to fleet 2 go right ahead

1 is mob, 2 is boss

[rough oar]

no

i mean

do you want to build 1 ijn fleet

or build 2 ijn fleet for both mob and boss fleet

but with the amount of ijn ship you have

[wise sun]

ah... 2 fleets if possible

[rough oar]

seem impossible

kek

[wise sun]

I mean backline is stocked

although it'd take time to level the right ships

[rough oar]

nah

where your mob fleet

cause you needed a healer really

[wise sun]

Shouhou?

[rough oar]

yea

[wise sun]

well there we go

[rough oar]

she not as good as other healer in w12/w13 tho

and it recommended to have 2 healer in w13 for mob

backline heal will be better

[wise sun]

I only have Unicorn and Volga for backline healers

[rough oar]

unicorn only heal frontline

[wise sun]

technically also Arizona and that italian CV i'm forgetting the name of...

oh you meant backline healing

[rough oar]

but you should run unicorn + volga together instead of shouou for mob

[wise sun]

yeah all I got is yukikaze

[rough oar]

your boss ijn fleet should work fine in w13
but you needed to manual your torpedo

[wise sun]

for literally any ship that heals backline

[rough oar]

only volga is enough

[wise sun]

I do that anyways

[rough oar]

so for mob

[wise sun]

while I don't have Azuma, you can recommend her, since she's permanently accessible

[rough oar]

just run something like indep unicorn volga + 3 vanguad

oh

i mean dev 25 + azuma

not just azuma

[wise sun]

Is this not good?

[rough oar]

that take a while

that is good but no healer

so slot in volga and unicorn in

[wise sun]

But then I lose out on Essex and Indep

[rough oar]

welp

you can also replace pow

w12/w13 have no suicide boat

[wise sun]

pow is for EU fleet buff

[rough oar]

i would run indep volga unicorn

well good luck doing w13 without heal

[wise sun]

this is basically FU to planes

[rough oar]

see ya

[wise sun]

aka W12 fleets

[rough oar]

w12 is easy

comparing it to w13 is like child play

so you probaly run than in w12 and still be fine ig

but i wouldnt recommend

[wise sun]

lemme put it this way... what's hard-mode 10-4 closest to in terms of difficulty on a normal stage?

[rough oar]

it been far too long

cant remember

[wise sun]

because I cannot get past that hardmode stage

jin just shreds whatever I throw at her in the vanguard

so like if I know what stages are similar to hard 10-4, then I know what I can or cannot stop at.

[rough oar]

the closest i can think of it 11-4

but they are still 2 different boss

and w12 is easy than w11 so

[wise sun]

I can clear 11-4 no problem

[rough oar]

yep

you can do w12 ten

then

[wise sun]

but not 10-4 hard for whatever reason...

weird

so what I used for 11-4 can be used for W12?

[rough oar]

....

it easier

but they dont have the same gimmick

[wise sun]

Arizona, Yorktown, Shouhou, Phoenix, Cassin, and Downes you're coming back for W12 it seems

[rough oar]

[wise sun]

it's what I used to clear 11-4

them and what's in my second fleet

[rough oar]

wait do you kill mob with ur boss fleet?

[wise sun]

no

[rough oar]

ok

i dont think that fleet will cut it for w12

[wise sun]

it's split hard for mobs for mob fleet and boss for boss node

[rough oar]

mob

no aa

[wise sun]

and this is why my mob fleet is what it is now

[rough oar]

and your currently mob fleet have no healer

keep the vanguard. replace prince with a healer

you dont needed a BB in w12/w13

[wise sun]

So what you're saying the the factional buff pow gives is worth less than a unicorn or shouhou giving heals?

[rough oar]

yea

[wise sun]

with 5 EU ships?

[rough oar]

i would even drop essex for volga for addtional heal

yea

[wise sun]

volga is like level 1...

[rough oar]

...

you have time before w13

clear w12 with only 1 healer for now

[wise sun]

still replacing prince?

[rough oar]

yea

[wise sun]

I'll try what I have for now, and if I find that it's impossible to clear with what I have I'll take your advice

[rough oar]

good luck

[wise sun]

question now, is Uni or Shouhou, and who replaces prince in flag? Essex?

since that'd make it a CVL/CV/CVL backline

[rough oar]

essex flag

unicorn > shouhou in w12/w13

cause fighter slot give a lot of aa

[wise sun]

right... one last question, since it's partially relevant for W13 help

but how does one figure out the total slots a CV or CVL has for plane types?

since you said uni has more fighter slots than shouhou

[harsh terrace]

You check wiki

[wise sun]

without checking wiki?

[harsh terrace]

In game you tell by looking at the limit break screen but thats tedious

[wise sun]

do all ships start with same slots?

[harsh terrace]

Theres also a list of loadouts guide under the command /equip by a risbiantori person

[wise sun]

for what types of planes they can use?

[harsh terrace]

Yeah it's 1 plane per plane slot base

[wise sun]

and hangar count increase is +1 to all?

so hangar capacity is +1 to all... what about all aircraft +1?

that's what I meant to ask about

[harsh terrace]

No

[wise sun]

is all aircraft +1 same thing?

[harsh terrace]

Hanger capacity means on the airstrike icon in battle

You get 1 more thingy there

[wise sun]

ahhh

[harsh terrace]

All aircraft +1 is all plane slots get +1 more plane

[wise sun]

in case you wanted to store it for a double airstrike

got it

[harsh terrace]

Yeah

Like percy skill increases her hanger size/capacity

iirc

[wise sun]

so using Essex as an example, she'd have 3 fighter slots, 3 dive bomber slots, and 2 torpedo bomber slots?

[harsh terrace]

Yes

That's correct

[wise sun]

and for W12 and 13 which is more important? DBs or TBs?

Ik fighters are most important

especially for 12, but also 13

[harsh terrace]

Its more ship dependant vs slot dependant

although you could make the argument tbs better due to wyvern

[wise sun]

of which I have none

[harsh terrace]

so ship dependant

[wise sun]

currently using SB2C Helldivers for DBs and Fairey Barracudas for TBs

[harsh terrace]

uh

Actually nvm thats good

[wise sun]

F6F Hellcats for fighters

[harsh terrace]

Thought that was a diff fairey plane for a second

yeah those 3 are fine

On indep hopefully you got a uss torpedo bomber if not wyverb

[wise sun]

Best I can give her is a purple TBF Avenger right now

So for Indep which is better? Gold Fairey Barracuda or purple TBF Avenger?

[harsh terrace]

barracuda i think

But see if you can craft a skypirate in gear lab