Fleet Leveling

[wooden pawn]

Alright

[slate girder]

go on then

[wooden pawn]

This is the fleet in mind

[slate girder]

hmm as far i wouldnt consider to use anshan in main

[wooden pawn]

Alright

[slate girder]

thats georgia in flag right

[wooden pawn]

Yes

[slate girder]

fine we need to change anshan

and main will be good

[wooden pawn]

I suppose change out Takao for her?

[wide garnet]

Hood needs flag
Yuki + Takao kinda redundant

[slate girder]

you could but to be sure you will need aa in chapter 12 as you are closing

[wooden pawn]

I mean, I don’t plan on doing those high worlds

[slate girder]

so you will stop at chapter 11

if you will stop there then any high lv fleet will win

[wooden pawn]

Right

But I should show gear for each ship

[slate girder]

yes to know if it will do great or they may go wasted

[wooden pawn]

I’ll do that once I get to my house, which is not far

[slate girder]

you could leave anshan in main if you are not passing chapter 11

[wooden pawn]

@slate girder Gonna send them one by one

I also updated the fleet comp

[slate girder]

alright i am ready

[wooden pawn]

This damn image of the fleet does not want to load

[slate girder]

is it too big in size

[wooden pawn]

They’re not too big. They just do not want to send

[slate girder]

send a one or at least give me an idea of the issue

[wooden pawn]

There we go

[slate girder]

you have ark

[wooden pawn]

Yes

[slate girder]

i see it

[wooden pawn]

But she isn’t as powerful as my Enty

[slate girder]

it could be more powerful

[wooden pawn]

Ark Kai isn’t as enhanced as Enty

Alright. Now the gear

[slate girder]

well at the point of not same enhanced i may agree but later ark will be better now can we insist that hood must be the flagship

good gear admiral

[slate girder]

fine gear on ark

[slate girder]

ok what you have aux bb in dock

[wooden pawn]

Eh?

Just so you know, I don’t have gold shells

[slate girder]

we need whats better than an auto loader

i actually dont matter using purple shells

have a fire radar/sg radar

i still use purple shells until now

[slate girder]

u could use an sg radar

[wooden pawn]

Gonna take a while to enhance

[slate girder]

hit is so effective with bb

thats what i am exactly looking for

[wooden pawn]

So lemme put DoY’s SG on Georgia

[slate girder]

ok

[wooden pawn]

Or maybe, I should have DoY replace Hood. DoY’s at 96

[slate girder]

then use doy instead hood is fine

[wooden pawn]

I plan on changing the 380 with a Hood gold gun

[slate girder]

at least we get rid of the ap trash

[wooden pawn]

I do have Tashkent gun. Should I give Yukikaze or An Shan the gun? It’s +5

[slate girder]

an shan not yuki

anshan have a maingun mount +1

[wooden pawn]

Okay. Then I’ll give the twin 100 gold that An Shan has to Yukikaze

[slate girder]

yes

[slate girder]

u have 610 torpedoes for yuki

[wooden pawn]

I do

I have a +10 gear lab 610 on San Diego. Currently not using her

I have the quint, but I’m keeping those on Shimakaze

[slate girder]

anshan is fine after using tashkent gun
use 610 it have more damage output for nearly 3 more seconds on yuki

leave the quint with shima

sandiego doesnt deal that much trp damage

[wooden pawn]

I’m aware

[slate girder]

good

[wooden pawn]

Now I really need to start enhancing DoY. Her reload is 99

[wide garnet]

Give DD's Toolkits instead of Rudders or random junk

[wooden pawn]

I suppose their EVA is too high for rudders?

[slate girder]

yes

and hit is more worthy in main

[wide garnet]

DoY would prefer a Purpur 406mk6 over either

[wooden pawn]

That’s the thing

[slate girder]

you dont have one

[wooden pawn]

I want guns that reload faster. Once I get a ships RLD higher, then I can switch

[slate girder]

this may work fine

[wooden pawn]

DoY’s RLD is too low for MK6

[wide garnet]

Both those guns have kinda shit damage

[slate girder]

firing at 20 sec is better than 30sec

[wooden pawn]

Thank you

[slate girder]

no problem

[wooden pawn]

Also, this is why I have Autoloaders on them, generally

To speed up the RLD

[slate girder]

well georgia isnt low on reload

[wide garnet]

Shelling does damage too
Shells help with damage too

[wooden pawn]

Only got purple Type 91 shells

[slate girder]

at least they are decent

[wooden pawn]

Right

[slate girder]

i still use thim on fdg

[wooden pawn]

Now, one day, I’ll have the Gold shells. To keep that in mind, which world would be great to do the daily 3 runs in for the Core data?

[slate girder]

chapter 8 in this case

[honest delta]

hello gamers

[pure bloom]

hello

[slate girder]

hello 2ms

[wooden pawn]

o/

[honest delta]

who in their fucked up minds said bisko gun + autoloader = pog

[pure bloom]

[wooden pawn]

I don’t auto

[slate girder]

no one

[pulsar zephyr]

Core data scales based on the chapter being fought, so the highest chapter you can clear if core data is a priority

[honest delta]

autoloader* corrected

[slate girder]

wait u said that now

ur the one who said this

[wooden pawn]

Keep in mind, DoY’s RLD is 99. Way too low

[slate girder]

i wont complain DoY

due to enhance lacking

[wooden pawn]

Right

Top it off, I’m constantly in a tight spot with dock space

[slate girder]

well do you have alot of common/rare ships

[wooden pawn]

I retired/used most of my commons for enhancing

Same for rares

There’s some I won’t retire due to limited access like Z20

[slate girder]

i feel smh like something is wrong

[wooden pawn]

My dock space is 260

[slate girder]

divergent chessboard drop z20

in a1

[wooden pawn]

So she’s a drop, but not a construction?

Weird

[slate girder]

it can be constructed in light if wanted

[wooden pawn]

For real?

Hold up, lemme check her access

[slate girder]

until now it is drop only

but i got it from light smh

[slate girder]

u could farm c1/a1 for her if you need her

[wooden pawn]

But over all, retire?

[slate girder]

if you want her for tech you could but you may retire her

commom womt give that much tech

[wooden pawn]

Right

But I only have one 120

[slate girder]

if it reached 120 then you dont need her tech but now do you use her for low oil farmimg or no

if no then ok if yes leave her

[wooden pawn]

I’m not concerned about oil that much

[slate girder]

yet you have more than my dockspace and you are tight in people

[wooden pawn]

If I was worried about oil, I would do a 1:1 with Shimakaze and a BB

[slate girder]

ok

what common still there

[wooden pawn]

I believe Z20, Kisaragi, and Cygnet

[slate girder]

well you wont use them then they are trash to u since u dont kneed them in any function

need*

[wooden pawn]

Alright

Now lemme send a pic of my rares

Or some pics

[slate girder]

ok

[slate girder]

matsukaze, jumaica, z19, penssyvilian, hatakaze, stanly, halsey powell, smalley, acasta, oyashio, asashio, nachi, z18, muyukou, lepzig

[wooden pawn]

Right. Jamaica’s in Winter’s Crown

[slate girder]

yes

z19/z18 also in divergent chessboard

[wooden pawn]

Lemme check my commons as well

[slate girder]

nachi/muyukou in ink stained steel sakura

[wooden pawn]

I got them as normal world drops

[slate girder]

they do exist as normal but farming there for them is easier

[wooden pawn]

Right

Anyways, the commons where the ones I mentioned before

[slate girder]

fina

fine*

hamakaze yet pretty solid

[wooden pawn]

Damn

505 TRP for a Retro

[slate girder]

not bad for ijn

atleast u got shima which is 608 trp

[wooden pawn]

She’s actually at 614 for me

[slate girder]

608 if she in stranger which i doubt

[wooden pawn]

And I’m using Oxytorp and quint 610 on her

[wooden pawn]

She’s oathed

[slate girder]

76mm aa gun and boom

[wooden pawn]

Got that as well

[pulsar zephyr]

out of all the rares there I recommend raising Ariake (assuming you don't have kazagumo)

[wooden pawn]

I got her

[pulsar zephyr]

okay in that case ariake's role is smaller since kaza does the CV buffing thing too

[wooden pawn]

But in a greater scale

I plan on replacing Ayanami with Kazagumo in the future

[pulsar zephyr]

it's the same CV buff but Kaza just is a stronger ship elsewhere with her torp output

[slate girder]

no

not a good deal

[pulsar zephyr]

Ayanami is still the stronger pure torpboat, you only use kazagumo if you plan on using a CV fleet with her

[slate girder]

aya could reach 561 trp

[wooden pawn]

You wanna see my first fleet comp?

[pulsar zephyr]

raw torp stat among IJN DDs is pretty pointless

[slate girder]

its aya

[pulsar zephyr]

most of them hit 500+ easily anyways, and it's their skills that make or break their torp dmg

in which case Ayanami is top 3-4 in the game regarding torp nukers

[slate girder]

60%more trp stat

[slate girder]

sounds good enough to nuke worls 13

[pulsar zephyr]

I'm not a fan of Shima Roon Ayanami as a vanguard comp tbh. It's like torpmeme but not committed

[wooden pawn]

I plan on replacing Monarch with Georgia since I heard that Georgia’s the better bosser of the two

[pulsar zephyr]

for w13 I do recommend Cheshire as the front tank

and maybe Helena in there too

[slate girder]

well yes but regarding that monarch do exceptional damage

[wooden pawn]

Don’t have Cheshy

And Helena’s level 100

[pulsar zephyr]

w13 plane spam is pretty significant with a mostly BB and weak AA fleet

[slate girder]

lv 100 helena enough to end career

[wooden pawn]

Good lord. Do I need to mention that I’m Commander level 73?

[slate girder]

no but ik that

[pulsar zephyr]

that's good because it means you're still a lot of time away from w13

[slate girder]

i am also stuck due commander level

[pulsar zephyr]

regarding that fleet, I'm not sure what you're going for with the vanguard

[wooden pawn]

Powerhouse

That’s the fleet I mostly use for both clearing and bossing

[pulsar zephyr]

with Shima you might get better mileage out of a torp buffer instead of another nuker like Ayanami

also from w10+ you really need a dedicated 2 fleet mob-boss setup

[slate girder]

jintsuu for more trp nuke

[pulsar zephyr]

also, do you have PoiKai?

[wooden pawn]

Nope

[slate girder]

and we got away from what we are supposed to be doing here

[pulsar zephyr]

do you have her retrofit item?

[wooden pawn]

I do

[pulsar zephyr]

do you have yuudachi?

[wooden pawn]

Nope

[pulsar zephyr]

farming for her is a legit consideration you can make

PoiKai is arguably the most versatile DD in the entire game

[wooden pawn]

Good thing I got clearing mode ready for 6-4

[pulsar zephyr]

she buffs torp damage, she has good gunpower, and her torps hit hard

also her retrofit is fairly cheap for a SR-UR retrofit

[slate girder]

well thats for fleet 1 and about 2

[wooden pawn]

So, that gave me an idea

Use my fleet 5 to grind EXP and Poi

[slate girder]

u could do this

[wooden pawn]

I got a ton of logistics that need to be used

[slate girder]

dont overuse them ok

[wooden pawn]

Imma retire/mat the above ships you mentioned, then I’ll proceed to do 6-4

[slate girder]

ok

[wooden pawn]

Lemme show ya how many I got

[slate girder]

i guess they are 200 nearly

[slate girder]

300

great

[wooden pawn]

No fear

[slate girder]

i just wasted them in 12-2

will i wont fear

[pulsar zephyr]

I personally save those for events and then spam the D3 with them

[wooden pawn]

I mainly use these in worlds that can drop SRs

[slate girder]

why could we need more than 20k

[pulsar zephyr]

I mean... event D3s usually have an SR in the drop pool

[slate girder]

usually

[wooden pawn]

I’m more concerned about normal world drops

[pulsar zephyr]

actually, I think event D3s always have a SR

normal world drops are rarely that great though

you still spend the same amount of oil to get the same number of ships

[wooden pawn]

Besides Poi and Bunker Hill

Maybe foxes

[slate girder]

bunker hill, akagi, kaga, maya, yudachi, choukai, new orleans

all sr in worlds

[pulsar zephyr]

aside from Poi none of the world SRs are ships I would consider for a boss fleet purely on merit of their strength

[wooden pawn]

Not even BH?

[slate girder]

bh=essex

[pulsar zephyr]

BH is an essex class which means a good statline but BH isn't really the best among them, and the essex class tend to be jack of all trades master of none type CVs

[slate girder]

yet essex is the best of them

[pulsar zephyr]

New Orleans is also better than Portland but by the time you can farm w14 you're gonna have dozens of CAs who are better ships

Essex is probably the best generalist Essex, yes. Tico is a better bossing CV though

works well in a rocket plane bossing fleet with Indep and Enty

[wooden pawn]

Rockets…. I need to get more

[slate girder]

kaga bb, kawakaze, eugen, z46, zuikako, dude of york, prince of wails, north clorina, Bismarck, le troimphant

these are all sr in war archives

[pulsar zephyr]

everyone wants more rocket planes

I only have 4 atm and I want at least 2 more

[wooden pawn]

So Bismarck in the Scherzo of Iron and Blood was an exchange/drop? I can’t remember. It’s been that long

But I remember constructing her

[slate girder]

i also constructed her

[wooden pawn]

I remember seeing the construction of her being 12 hours. I knew it was Bismarck, so I popped a quick finisher

[placid torrent]

No

She was build only

The drop was like z46 i think

[slate girder]

to be exact it was 6.50hours

[pulsar zephyr]

z46 was divergent chessboard

[placid torrent]

oh wait

[pulsar zephyr]

wasn't scherzo shop KGV

[placid torrent]

Yeah but she wasn't drop

[pulsar zephyr]

yeah idk who drop was

[placid torrent]

Was this one of those events with no gold drop

[pulsar zephyr]

been a while

it might have been, yeah

[placid torrent]

Wouldn't surprise me

[wooden pawn]

I was sure that Bisko construction time back then was 12 hours

[placid torrent]

Na that seems high

[pulsar zephyr]

I don't think any ship has ever been 12 hours

[placid torrent]

Check wiki

[slate girder]

no ship reached 7h until now

[pulsar zephyr]

construction seems to be a combo of hull type and displacement, so we'll likely need Yamato/Montana class sized ships to hit 7 hours

[placid torrent]

Replace bisko with lusty then should probably be alright

[wooden pawn]

My lusty is 99

[placid torrent]

Yes there are a lot of random ijn ships with high torp

[slate girder]

f

[pulsar zephyr]

lvl 99 is enough for lusty to live into w12

[placid torrent]

You will die to aa issue without her xd

[slate girder]

commander level

[wooden pawn]

Remember, level 73 commander here

[placid torrent]

And yeah she's fine for w12

Past w10 there's no commander lock

[pulsar zephyr]

and yeah, lusty is fantastic for w12/13 due to how many fighters and how much acv she gives

[wooden pawn]

Think again

[placid torrent]

So that's irrelevant

[wooden pawn]

W11 requires level 75

[placid torrent]

really?

[wooden pawn]

Yes

[placid torrent]

[wooden pawn]

Lemme show ya

[slate girder]

there is

[pulsar zephyr]

I do recommend raising lusty at some point though since she will make w12 so much easier

[placid torrent]

Think there's still that weird bug where you can do w10 hard and not w9 hard though

[slate girder]

i cant play 13-3 while i am lower than 90

[wooden pawn]

I do have Lusty oathed, so her AA and AVI is higher

Should probably get a 2nd Tigercat or Sea Hornet tho

[placid torrent]

Hellcat is good enough

You want the aa

[wooden pawn]

I disassembled most of my Hellcats

[slate girder]

f4u vt 8

💀

[wooden pawn]

Since I was mainly focusing on bomb damage

[slate girder]

f7f constructed from f6f

[placid torrent]

Yeah

Could have saved plates by crafting up

[wooden pawn]

(Not as conservative as y’all)

[slate girder]

i actually may use f2a buffalo in making f7f without making f6f

[placid torrent]

well you see

The game still makes it for you

[slate girder]

it requires deadly materials

[placid torrent]

But it just immediately uses it again

[wooden pawn]

That makes no sense

[placid torrent]

Better to just gold uss box

[placid torrent]

Basically it allows you to "one click" craft everything without having to craft everything individually and click though steps

[wooden pawn]

I see

[slate girder]

it kills mats

[placid torrent]

Mat use is the same

No matter if you one click or manually do it

[slate girder]

whatever i guess we fixed the fleet excepttakao gear to finish the fleet gear setup

[placid torrent]

Gear is easy

https://imgur.com/a/TNpH1rL

Throw oxytorps instead of toolbox as you see fit

Since manual

Everything else follow up here

[slate girder]

not this pieces of small text again

[placid torrent]

Gimme a sec

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1wWMIzaUKISAXMbOEnmsuuLkO9PesabpdTUWdosvHygM/htmlview#gid=1859764162

Try this instead

[wooden pawn]

How about this?

[placid torrent]

That's gear lab gear guide

Not equips

Equips is a seperate image

Its an album of images

If needed click spreadsheet above if imgur isnt cooperating

[slate girder]

phone overkills text

if you can see it well then fine

[wooden pawn]

Sam

You sent the Imgur of gear lab

[slate girder]

i do still have this

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home if you click ships on this list it shows gear recommendations

[placid torrent]

Yes that works too

[placid torrent]

This is what i mean by imgur not cooperating

[slate girder]

💀

dragoon is the github website working fine or not

[placid torrent]

that should work fine

[slate girder]

it suppose

[wooden pawn]

It did

[slate girder]

great

[wooden pawn]

So I’m probably gonna try to work towards a Sea Hornet since I don’t have any Hellcats

[placid torrent]

uh

Not in gear lab

Its way way more expensive

[slate girder]

sea hornet is in gear laps

[placid torrent]

Cause you have to go from random purple to random gold to sea hornet

Whereas its hellcat to tigercat directly

And you can get hellcat from boxes

[slate girder]

well with nf6f he will do the same

[placid torrent]

Open eagle box for f6f > crafting random gold plane in gear lab for future use

[wooden pawn]

Sucks to be me since I don’t got any gold boxes

[placid torrent]

Can you check depot --> craft

[slate girder]

me too

[wooden pawn]

Only Messerschmitt is what I got ready to craft

[slate girder]

it comes reload shit on long island

[placid torrent]

Rip

But honestly

Messer isnt bad on underlvl lusty

[wooden pawn]

I’m aware that IB fighters have insane AA

[placid torrent]

Would be a waste of enhance materials though

Yeah the AA is pog

The issue is surface damage is dog

[wooden pawn]

They only got cannons

No bombs

[placid torrent]

However since not high lvl lusty has bad surface damage running messer for the aa isnt a horrible option

[wooden pawn]

But, once again, I have no danger of planes as of now

Mostly suicide boats

[placid torrent]

Yeah

[slate girder]

messirmetch dont intercept fighter

[placid torrent]

Wrong messer

[wooden pawn]

Only rocket plane doesn’t

[slate girder]

alon it must be launched in an airstrik

[placid torrent]

Theres two messers

Rocket plane is a messer

[pulsar zephyr]

the 155 has great AA, the 109g doesn't

[placid torrent]

But i doubt hes able to craft a rocket plane as his only fighter

[wooden pawn]

I do have a rocket plane

[placid torrent]

Twin 152 or twin 150 as bb aux solves that issue

Well on bisko use twin 150 only

[wooden pawn]

I have Triple 152 on Monarch and gold twin 150 on Bisko

[wooden pawn]

(It’s Nepgun on Monarch BTW)

[placid torrent]

that should be fine

[slate girder]

any thing but biscko ap gun please

[placid torrent]

gold twin 150 is best for Bismarck

Idk what you saying

[pulsar zephyr]

gold twin 150 is best general use intercept for a lot of BBs tbh

[wooden pawn]

That’s why I have it just on her

[placid torrent]

ye

[slate girder]

I though he means the main gun

not the secondery gun

[pulsar zephyr]

what BB main gun is 150mm lol

[wooden pawn]

I have Triple 410/FDG gun for Bisko

[placid torrent]

bisko run a HE gun

Monarch run fdg gun

[wooden pawn]

I’m close to getting the Georgia gun, but that’s gonna go on Monarch

[placid torrent]

Bisko barrage is horrible

Use shelling gun

In w11 457 not good

[wooden pawn]

FDG gun is HE as well

[placid torrent]

Or w10

[wooden pawn]

I know for W10

[pulsar zephyr]

FdG gun is HE but it's a barrage gun, not a shelling gun

[wooden pawn]

All light armor

[placid torrent]

Ye

[pulsar zephyr]

Bisko's barrage is extremely weak and isn't worth the reduction in shelling power

[wooden pawn]

What the hell is the difference between Barrage and shelling?

[placid torrent]

Skill on ship

[pulsar zephyr]

shelling guns tend to be large caliber triple guns with slower reloads

[placid torrent]

Some ships have "when this ship fires a salvo 70% chance for barrage" or whatever

Generally those ships get twin /barrage guns

[pulsar zephyr]

whereas barrage guns are faster firing but have less damage per salvo

[wooden pawn]

I god damn know what skill barrages are

[slate girder]

i still use a twin in my fdg estate

[wooden pawn]

I meant the difference between a barrage gun and a shelling gun

[placid torrent]

Ones twin ones tripple

[pulsar zephyr]

damage vs reload is the key

[placid torrent]

barallels

[slate girder]

giotgea offensiv skill is a barrage

[pulsar zephyr]

the triple 305mm odin gun is still a barrage gun

though it's a prodigiously low caliber

[wooden pawn]

But fast reload

[placid torrent]

Ye

[slate girder]

barrage fires faster/less damage

[pulsar zephyr]

the main HE shelling gun is the triple 406mm Mk6

[slate girder]

yet DoY rld is 99

[pulsar zephyr]

beyond that the triple 381mm Monarch gun is technically better if +13 but that's a lot of t4 plates for not much improvement

[wooden pawn]

Is there anything similar to MK6 that can give high FP?

Oh. Monarch gun. I got that

[placid torrent]

the rainbow version of it

[pulsar zephyr]

firing HE? the 381mm monarch gun, but it's really not worth it unless you have like 5000 t4 plates lying around

[wooden pawn]

And I don’t have NJ gun

[pulsar zephyr]

the Mk7 is a direct upgrade but it's one of a kind

[placid torrent]

Rainvow mk7 is event locked though sadge

Yeah mk6 is literally a top option

[pulsar zephyr]

there is no rainbow mk6

[placid torrent]

Oh right my bad

[placid torrent]

Stick to mk6 then

Nothing wrong

I have like 10 +10 mk6s lying around

[slate girder]

when DoY gets reload

[wooden pawn]

I just want higher FP stats. Is there no gold gun besides Monarch gun that plays similar to MK6?

[placid torrent]

nope

Also that 20 fp

Negligable

[pulsar zephyr]

MK6 is better when at the same upgrade level

[slate girder]

a shell would fix this

[placid torrent]

Shells as the bb aux is what gives most of bb fp

[pulsar zephyr]

20 fp with ships that routinely hit 600+ fp stat once tech and equips are factored in is negligible, while the mk6 hits like an absolute truck

[slate girder]

but actually i am very mutual to barrage guns that thisbis my mains

[placid torrent]

Barrage guns arent good on all barrage ships though

[pulsar zephyr]

^

[placid torrent]

timed barrage/strong shelling/weak barrage/weak proc rate moment

[slate girder]

i use them on fdg and warkai💀

[pulsar zephyr]

...

Warkai's barrage is timed so using a barraging gun is actively neutering her ability

[slate girder]

i am dead for sure

[wooden pawn]

That definitely struck a nerve

[slate girder]

yeah i lack bb guns thatsbwhy ibuse carriers

[pulsar zephyr]

FdG's shelling is strong enough to compensate (plus it's not a full on-fire barrage)

the Mk6 remains my most used BB gun even as a lvl 123

[slate girder]

ik my mk6 is under dev

i have only 1 +8

[wooden pawn]

I hope I got a spare MK6.

[slate girder]

14+3

2+6

they aree under dev

now i guess the fleet gearing is fixed for now

[pulsar zephyr]

I don't actually have as many as I thought I did

[slate girder]

._.

19 bb main guns

[pulsar zephyr]

I've got a lot more, those are just the mk6s

I do swap them around my BBs a lot

[slate girder]

oh no

[placid torrent]

mk6 can be gotten from purple/gold eagle union boxes

another reason why eagle boxes are the best boxes

[pulsar zephyr]

yeah EU gets shafted in event specific gear but gets a lot of good generally available gear

rudder D3 during the NJ event was nice tho