Current setup+subs only gets her down to ~20% HP on auto. Looks like I need significant changes to get the remaining HP bars
#Hard Arbiter Help
gray dove
gimme time to process
muted forge
gimme time to process
no damnit WE NEED ANSWERS NOW
sly current
Can only make changes in 23H and try the fight again because I'm not willing to spend the AP
gray dove
firstly switch helena to fleet 4
muted forge
Are you taking this ability into account and sending in your BBs first?
gray dove
since CV will do more damage than BB
sly current
Oh HE, ive been using AP on Fdg and NJ
Who of them has priority for the rainbow?
sly current
Are you taking this ability into account and sending in your BBs first?
no i havent but ill do it now
gray dove
also souryuu meta and hiryuu meta could work
muted forge
no i havent but ill do it now
Im not sure about this months arbiter, but using BBS first made a BIG impact for me last month
sly current
Should i add Jeanne to BB fleet if i take Helena away or use meta version?
gray dove
avp ticon hiryuu meta for 2nd fleet
actualy scratch hiryuu meta, aquila on there
fleet 1 switch georgia to formidable
that's 3 CV fleet that should give you better chance to beat it
sly current
okay was just about to suggest replacing georgia since shes the weakest of the main ships there
muted forge
Im honestly curious how your current setup would do if you'd send in your bbs in first, equipped with HE on them, without doing any further reorganising.
Also, RNG always plays a part so reconsider restarting the fight a couple of times with each fleet to show much bars they can take off on average - especially for the helena fleet, since her skill has such a large impact
sly current
Well i could try it later since it doesnt really take much effort
muted forge
Well i could try it later since it doesnt really take much effort
exactly, if you're mindful of your ap, it's only the sub order cooldown that's holding you back, the fight's free otherwise
sly current
think Indepence is only one with wyvern. everyone else is Ryusei except Shinano who has proto Saiun for timing adjustments
and august with junker now aswell
fair scroll
switch gun too HE alone should do the trick
gray dove
now can you afford all ryuusei or junker or saiun on 3 dedicated cv fleet that i suggest
fair scroll
my similalr BB fleet do like 40-50% arbiter hp
muted forge
now can you afford all ryuusei or junker or saiun on 3 dedicated cv fleet that i...
you can hotswap gear after each fight if need be - it's a pain (made slightly less painful by the quickswap feature) but you only do the fight once per month
gray dove
if you can, it should be easier
gray dove
my bb fleet does 30% while haku fleet does 55%
muted forge
who has the priority for MK7?
I think the difference between who uses it is not significant enough (in terms of beating this fight) to worry over, that said, my preference would be NJ
sly current
ill just see how much the gear changes do right now and change to the other setup once i can change the fleets again
muted forge
ill just see how much the gear changes do right now and change to the other setu...
I'd be surprised if you couldn't beat it with a few resets considering how stacked your fleet is compared to mine. (I didnt have UvH, Shinano or FDG at the time of beating this month's hm arbiter).
gray dove
btw another tips
wyvern would do worse since its a parallel torpedo
you want converging torpedo than parallel
sly current
Ill try resetting now, usually i never do it for any fight
the BB fleet is doing better now with HE but survivability is an issue sometimes
muted forge
Ill try resetting now, usually i never do it for any fight
I only do it with the HM arbiter fight and in ch. 14-3/14-4 while getting them down to safe mode
muted forge
sweet
sly current
got it down to 7 bars on this run
just needed the vanguard to survive a bit longer
had enough time to kill it
muted forge
thats fair, manual can help with that, if you weren't already
muted forge
and you... just watched your vanguard die? 
why not pause, retreat, start the fight over in manual
sly current
i thought about it but was pushing the limits of when to pause the battle
thought it could survive for 1 more airstrike
muted forge
i thought about it but was pushing the limits of when to pause the battle
ah yeah, I feel you, I had to redo entire runs of ch. 14-4 because I waited to long on resetting and losing the boss fight
muted forge
Yeah, @gray dove is great like that 
sly current
shouldnt have had fleet lock on for hard mode and see that it was light armor by myself
and the BB debuff
muted forge
yup ^^ it also describes her special clone ability