I think this is better
#Get Cygnet13 through 14-3
topaz canyon
mellow cradle
i am here to learn with you 
mellow cradle
hm well drek i heard is good for w14 mobbing
topaz canyon
really?
topaz canyon
she has 0 dmg reduction skills, only an eva boost 
mellow cradle
ive only made w14 fleets for 1 person before im not qualified lol
well drek has good damage and a minor selfheal and u dont need super chonk for mobbing i think
tropic pasture
ok
sharp umbra
smh
sharp umbra
helena in w14 imo is bad
topaz canyon
okay
sharp umbra
as w14 wants descyned dmg
tropic pasture
richy odin ryuuhou drake shima sumner mob
nj uvh aquila heal ancho poi jda boss
try this
final path
id use drake over mainz for mob. Else, yeh, sounds good.
sharp umbra
Richie/Ryuu/Odin + Drake/Poi/ams for mob
topaz canyon
its the only DR in this game I dev30ied 
tropic pasture
Richie/Ryuu/Odin + Drake/Poi/ams for mob
14-3 so i think poi better boss and shima better mob
final path
boss, as its 14-3, anchor-noshi + wildcard. maybe poi or so
sharp umbra
14-3 so i think poi better boss and shima better mob <:NagaThonk:721896665174376...
well getting to boss in 14-3 is more of the pain than those 2 pushover dd's so id still prefer shima
topaz canyon
my ancho is dev20 btw, is that an issue?
sharp umbra
yes
final path
probably better to run jda in boss too then, and/or switch to sf
mellow cradle
yea sf
topaz canyon
I thought her tankiness doesn't increase with dev level
mellow cradle
dev25 is what u want her to be
final path
dev25 as usual is the last tankiness upgrade
topaz canyon
lol I just checked, she's dev 24 and have some pr4 plates left, Ill get her to 25
topaz canyon
im just pasting this here to keep all the info together
tropic pasture
you might wanna run hsfcr rudder on odin too btw
topaz canyon
I think I have enough to spare one
in spite of having already cleared 14-3 once a few weeks ago I forgot if there's actual subs in 14-3, do I need radar+depth charge/hedgehog on both dds?
sharp umbra
only in dd mob nodes
final path
no need for radar these days, but you want to use atleast 2, best case 3 asw weapons (hedge + depth charge/asw planes
sharp umbra
so your mob dd wants a hedge and give ryuu an asw plane
topaz canyon
if best case is 3 I could give ryuu asw plane and jda depth charges (and the dd hedgehog)
sharp umbra
ow yeah with this setup you should avoid BB nodes
sharp umbra
what plane is best? I only have rn
get it to +10 and its great
topaz canyon
guess I looked it up sometime in the past
topaz canyon
ow yeah with this setup you should avoid BB nodes
what needs to change in my fleet setup in order to not have to avoid bb nodes?
final path
I mean, there's only 2 asw planes (and some lower rarity versions) 
tropic pasture
what needs to change in my fleet setup in order to not have to avoid bb nodes?
rudders everywhere and moving subs to tiles around said bb nodes 
*everywhere but dd
sharp umbra
what needs to change in my fleet setup in order to not have to avoid bb nodes?
id feed odin an ap gun personally so u have an extra dmg source to dunk on bb's to make them more bearable as well
topaz canyon
Ugh, i'll keep that as a last resort
tropic pasture
457 
topaz canyon
what about fake 457
sharp umbra
dont
the fights drag long enough for it to become a deadweight
and an actual hindrance
topaz canyon
oh god I never read that description 
sharp umbra
smh
topaz canyon
is this the MLE?
topaz canyon
I can awaken one of these to 125 btw, which would benefit most? or should I level up and 125 U-96 instead
topaz canyon
we made a mistake
topaz canyon
this setup doesnt have enough EVA to avoid ambushes
both riche and odin have a rudder to boot
topaz canyon
I levelled jda specifically with ch 14 in mind oh well RIP I guess I'll find a use for her elsewhere
tropic pasture
well this is a 14-3 only thing
in 14-4 you drop noshi for jda
noshi > jda in 14-3 cause torp damage reduc is helpful
topaz canyon
oh so the 14-3 boss torps actually count as torps for a change?
topaz canyon
yeah
tropic pasture
might need to drop odin xd
topaz canyon
centaur, indep and ticon all levelled
tropic pasture
use ticon over odin
mellow cradle
also only ur highest recon fleet counts for it
tropic pasture
and keep jda if you can otherwise replace with a gunboat dd
sharp umbra
id unironically drop richie for indep
mellow cradle
if jda is low recon fleet, replacing her does nothing
topaz canyon
topaz canyon
sumner?
tropic pasture
ye sumner works
topaz canyon
.
I get that ticon is a good stat stick for recon/acv but isn't she a light armor specialist?
tropic pasture
well in mobs
she has 2 functions mainly
a) she doesn't die easily
b) her airstrike barrage when she launches an airstrike does a lotta damage to those bulky suicides
i use her mainly cause of the not die easily function cause rng is pain so not dying despite the rng is
you can also craft tbtsk kai in gear lab to use as an aux for your not tash gun aux bbs as well, in my experience it helps a lot
topaz canyon
oh crap I didnt seriously consider my bb auxes, I think NJ is using the gearlab AP one and UvH and Richelieu are using this (its simply what I've been putting on bb's with a cl aux ever since I first read a gear guide years ago
sharp umbra
thats gonna really hurt in w14 tho
u need good auxes to deal with suicides
and that gun isnt really good enough
topaz canyon
I upgraded some belguns when the gearlab upgrade came out, useful? or do I need ap against suicide? I forgot
sharp umbra
the 155 kais are good u can use them
topaz canyon
whelp I could exclusively fight 2 star recon enemies which made mobbing quite easy
aqheala died pretty early in the bossfight but I managed to drag an A-rating out of it regardless
so thanks for all the suggestions ❤️
topaz canyon
Ah no I hadn't done that yet
sharp umbra
you kinda want rudders on all of your backliners in all of w14
topaz canyon
I've got 11 of them but they're all equipped and I hate tearing setups apart T_T
sharp umbra
i guess another option is you can try to get around by feeding your cvs with VH armour plating if u have them to save on rudders