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rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:12 AM

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I need help to work out what ships I should focus training/leveling for story

dusk adder Jan 4, 2022, 7:13 AM

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10-3 and beyond? go ahead and post your dock

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:13 AM

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sorry sending screenshots, taking time to load

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14 images..

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dusk adder Jan 4, 2022, 7:18 AM

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aye

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:19 AM

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ill say this, i only just scrape by with highest leveled ships, and i found out without the fire suppressor, my bbs burn to death

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my hood and fusou meta both died just to burning on first attempt

dusk adder Jan 4, 2022, 7:20 AM

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is hood on the boss fleet?

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:20 AM

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yes

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i even tried with mob fleet

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yukikaze boss has he ammo

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and without suppressor, they just burn

dusk adder Jan 4, 2022, 7:22 AM

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yea that's normal for w10/11

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:22 AM

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I won't be able to list out all the ships that are good, but I can give some general advice ig

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:22 AM

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and yes, i am a collector, i keep every unique ship

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well i mean, im jsut asking which ships i should prioritise for using in w10

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:23 AM

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from chapters 1 to 11, you'll want to use a BB centric team, especially on boss, but there's also relatively high vanguard pressure in those bosses, so running shouhou is a viable option, or at least that what I have done when I first did ch10/11

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ah

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if you want a list then I might be able to point a few good ones

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:24 AM

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Usual fleet is
Unicorn/Hood/Shouhou
Portland/Shimakaze/Montpelier

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:24 AM

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ah double vanguard healer is a bit overkill

dusk adder Jan 4, 2022, 7:24 AM

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and you said hood is boss right

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so we don't want any healers on boss

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:24 AM

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i mean, im always losing vanguard without double heals

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yes, thats if solo, or if i transition hood out for another bb for mob

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:25 AM

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its a gears issue then

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:25 AM

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i meant my vanguard dies if not double heals on mob

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my bad phrasing

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:26 AM

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yeah you might want to stack more survivability gears on your vanguards

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I'm confident your lv122 portland is more than capable of tanking in 10-3, as well as your 115 shima and 117 mont

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:26 AM

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also secondary problem is oil consumption

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thats her gear

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yes, im broke on gold/oil

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:27 AM

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looks fine there I guess

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:27 AM

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CleveDerp

dusk adder Jan 4, 2022, 7:28 AM

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well consider prioritizing richy up and then you can run
Richy Warspite Enty Portland Shima SaintLouis on boss
Hood FusoM/Shouhou Uni Yukikaze Sandy Monty

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:28 AM

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which vanguard is struggling the most actually

dusk adder Jan 4, 2022, 7:28 AM

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yea and shima and monty should have toolboxes

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if torps were an issue you could try torp bulges

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:29 AM

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shima i kinda noticed recently how good she was, so focused her

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Mob fleet is

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:30 AM

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okay that also looks fine

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:30 AM

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though im planning to rework stuff again

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:30 AM

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I would assume the lack of damage is the problem then

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:30 AM

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i spent most of playtime focusing javelin/long island

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probably, it takes close to 110 seconds to beat fleets/boss

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:31 AM

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shouldn't take more than 60 seconds for mob

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:31 AM

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close to that 2 minute timer

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depending on what the mobs are it sometimes fluctuates

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it can be 60s

dusk adder Jan 4, 2022, 7:32 AM

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you have 2 fleets right

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:33 AM

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also only found out recently 2 things: gear lab, and the fact you can move your submarines around for oil to gain benefits, i always had battles where i only used 2 ammo

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and yes

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also idk if i should ask in here or make another thread at some point, but what ships should i be focusing for hard mode stages/Operation siren

static sequoia Jan 4, 2022, 7:40 AM

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depends on the hard mode stage

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for operation siren, if you don't have that many ships raised, you can make a mob fleet and boss fleet using your best ships

rugged anchor Jan 4, 2022, 7:42 AM

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i had that at one stage, it turned out to be one fleet that could fight anything, although needing constant repair kits, and the others as fillers

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 10:12 AM

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Ok @rugged anchor, I took a gander at your fleet. You have some future options on how you want to build your fleet. I'll get into that in a second. For now, I would run Hood, Tirpitz, Long Island for your backline. This should give you a noticeable bump in damage right away. You can leave your vanguard as it is. Yes, it will die, but that's okay too. Even my fleet gets sunk by this boss, and there's very little I could do to make it tankier.

As soon as you can get her levelled, you're going to want to use Helena. She's the single most useful vanguard support ship. Her retrofit only makes her even better, so get that as soon as possible. I would swap Javelin for Helena once you have Helena above 110.

For your main tank, Portland is decent. This time last year, she would have been one of the top tank cruiser in the game, but she's been powercrept with nearly every update. Luckily for you, one of the potential replacements is a ship you just got: Prinz Adalbert. Consider this low priority.

First backline priority is to get rid of Long Island. You got options for a CV. I would focus on Ark Royal. She has good damage and a useful slow debuff that will improve the accuracy of your other backline ships. Alternatively you can use Enterprise, sho will contribute raw damage, but nothing else. Note that an unlucky run will nerf her her damage severely. Your last main option is a Sakura carrier pair. If you haven't used it yet, you can use your New Years invitation to pick up Shoukaku to be Zuikaku's other half. You can also use Hiryuu and Soryuu. The weakest option is Akagi and Kaga, but if your vanguard is dying very early, their first strike might overcome their weaknesses that would normally make them a poorer choice than the other carrier divs.

Tirpitz is a pretty bad BB when not alone or paired with Bismarck, so you'll want to swap her out second. If you get UvH from this event, use her. Otherwise, Richelieu will be the best replacement you have. If you use one of the carrier pairs i mention earlier, you can keep Tirpitz instead of hood, since she can take advantage of her damage buff.

Lastly, switch whatever's left with Nagato. She's an alright BB on her own. If you use a sakura carrier pair, she jumps to tier 1 due to her massive 20% DMG buff she gives to all sakura carriers

Putting that all together, an example meta fleet, and the one I would use for now would be
🚩Nagato/Shoukaku/Zuikaku//Prinz Adalbert/Shimakaze/Helena Retrofit

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I know this is your W10 thread, not where you posted the question about meta fights, but this is a long post, and this will work for a W10 boss fleet anyways.

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 10:20 AM

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well i was gonna make another thread for OS fleet strategies, Meta fleet and anything else at some point

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Also i do read skill descriptions, so i know that Tirpitz is a solo BB

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Retrofitting wise, either lack of gold, or lack of gold parts

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sorry not gold parts for some, but mostly purple parts i mean

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:00 AM

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I know. You'll get them in time. That's why I gave you a now fleet and a future fleet you can work towards. You can start just by grinding D3 with some ships to level. You can drag a lot of garbage through it as long as you have one good ship to carry in vanghard and backline. Shima and Tirpitz will work for that.

This will also net you about 1200 gold and half a dozen plates per run, so you can kill 3 birds with one stone

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:01 AM

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i havent even cleared d1

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i have 0 oil

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i do the oil commissions

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but i just use it up

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so for now i farm c2 with tirpitz/shimakaze

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:02 AM

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Don't farm C2. It's not worth it. You'll just waste oil.

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Build it up for a bit, then get to work on the D maps

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:03 AM

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well im also farming b1/b2 for sub gear

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as im still using greys on lvl 80+

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:06 AM

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Don't worry about sub gear right now. Submarines aren't useful except in OS and W13+

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And the ones dropped by B2/B3 aren't that great anyway

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:07 AM

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b1 torps are recommended by the gear guide if i dont have gold

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homing

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:09 AM

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Can you do the submarine weekly mission?

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:10 AM

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ive only done the lvl 60 version, and even then, i struggled with it, im not good with manual mode

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:10 AM

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If you can get an S rank, you'll be able to auto finish

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:11 AM

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as i said, i barely cleared lvl 60 version

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:12 AM

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If you can't get an S rank on the 65 version, do 55 until you get good enough gear to do 65

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:13 AM

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sorry i forgot its by -5

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ive done 65 version, but not 75

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:13 AM

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Doing that twice a week is the easiest way to get sub gear

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:13 AM

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now i do the 65 weekely

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:15 AM

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If you still want to grind for torpedoes do it in D1 or D2.

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It has all of the same purple gear plus some non homing yellow torpedoes

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And you'll still be able to earn some decent XP and upgrade parts

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:17 AM

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ok i may do that, do you think tirpitz and shima could solo d1 mobbing?

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:17 AM

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Yours are 110 and 115 respectively, right?

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:18 AM

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111/116 now

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but yeah basically

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:18 AM

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Actually, nevermind. No, you can't because if the ship type limitation

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:19 AM

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Skilling the Kaiju ships

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Not skilled on tirpitz yet

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:19 AM

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You can however fill the other slots with something else to level

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:19 AM

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I could do one fleet for them for mobbing and the other fleet for boss to make up for the requirements

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:20 AM

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You want the ships to be levelled concentrated in the mob fleet

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:21 AM

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hmm?

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:21 AM

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I would do fleet 1 for mob fleet, which is BB/BB/CA.

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:22 AM

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so 3 ships for mob

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shima for boss?

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:22 AM

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You can do Tirpitz and Shimakaze with Prinz Adalbert

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You don't actually need the second battleship

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:22 AM

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adalbert is lvl 1?

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:22 AM

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Doesn't matter for fleet requirements

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:22 AM

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she would die instantly, losing S rating

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:23 AM

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And then she would remain dead, giving S rating back

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:23 AM

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im confused

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:24 AM

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If she dies on battle 1, you get an A rating. After that, every battle with that fleet will be just Tirpitz and Shimakaze, so you can still get S ranks

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:24 AM

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but wouldnt the shima fleet now be boss?

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:25 AM

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You actually might be able to just use that fleet as a boss fleet

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:25 AM

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would FusouM, Warspite and Portland serve good for mobbing then?

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:26 AM

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I mean as mob and boss

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If you want to use fusoM Warspite and Porty, yse them for boss and Tirpitz/shima for mob

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:27 AM

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ok, guess i can try that, unless you have any other options for a viable fleet

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:27 AM

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The enemies are lvl 80-83. You shouldn't have any trouble with them

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Once you have whichever map you want to farm cleared, you'll unlock ckearing mode, and you can take advantage of the oil limit, which reduces the cost per vattle to a set limit. You can sortie as many ships as you want without worrying about the added cost

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:30 AM

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so, ive been meaning to ask, though i could ask in the help thing, what does the safety rating do exactly?

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:31 AM

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gloomy breach If you want to use fusoM Warspite and Porty, yse them for boss and Tirpitz/shima...

also those 6 ships arent enough to fill quota

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:33 AM

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Apllies a small damage reduction. Ince safe, it adds 10 fake levels for the level advantage calculation. So level 80 ships are treated as level 90, for example. Doesn't affect stats, but does improve the odds of getting critical hits and avoiding hits, and reduces the odds of taking critical hits

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:33 AM

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rugged anchor also those 6 ships arent enough to fill quota

Just stack ships on to the boss fleet until you reach quota

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:33 AM

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i have to do one fleet of 5, other with 3
FusouM, Warspite, Shouhou/Portland, Javelin
Tirpitz/Shima, Adal

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:34 AM

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There you go

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:34 AM

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fleet 2 may not enter battle

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ree i need to fill the cruiser and carrier

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:35 AM

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You don't need a carrier, just a light cruiser

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:35 AM

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for D1?

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:35 AM

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For all D maps

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:35 AM

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its forcing me to fill the required slots

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:35 AM

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You just need to fill one slot for vanguard and main fleet each. The other slots can be left empty

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:36 AM

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gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:37 AM

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Oh that's why. You have them backwards from how I thought you'd do it

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Swap Adalbert for Helena

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Or just add helena in and use all 3

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:38 AM

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This works

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:38 AM

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Indeed it does

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If you have any trouble, you can obviously modify that as needed. Those empty spaces represent a lot of extra damage if you need it

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:39 AM

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also the enemies are lvl 91+

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:39 AM

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For D1?

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:39 AM

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yes

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:39 AM

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I could have sworn they were lower

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That might matter. If your fleets are clearing too slowly, you can add some extra ships in to contribute damage

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I'm going to bed now. I ship out for an actual navy in less than a week, but if you have any more questions until then, feel free to holler

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:43 AM

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ok

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i wanna keep this thread for a bit cause ive been dumb at this game for too long

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also javelin fleet clears in 35s

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shima about same time

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:44 AM

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See, told ya it was easy

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If you haven't, make sure Javelin is in the lead position. She'll keep Adalbert alive a bit longer

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:45 AM

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adalbert was with shima

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and died first battle

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AlbaSalute

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:45 AM

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RIP

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Still applies with shima though

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:46 AM

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tried that

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one lucky siren barrage

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:46 AM

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If you want, you can stick a toolbox on adalbert. That might keep her alive for the first battle

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:47 AM

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wish i had spare toolboxes

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another thing i was farming for

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Pog

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gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:48 AM

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Eventually you'll get to a point where you have so many toolboxes that whenever you need one, you just +10 a new one instead of transferring it from an old ship

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:48 AM

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rugged anchor

Hey, that was my first sub. And the first sub I got to 100 affinity.

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Very sleepy. Very cute.

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:48 AM

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my first sub was the japanese one

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:49 AM

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Too bad purple subs almost universally suck

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:49 AM

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I-58

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well shes German, so she gets the wolfpack buff

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:50 AM

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Which makes her slightly less sucky than I-58

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:50 AM

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true

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:50 AM

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Don't use u-1206, by the way. She's literally one of the worst subs in the game. Pure meme ship

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Unless you just like looking at red toilets

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:51 AM

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dont think ihave her yet

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unless its 1206 you meant

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the new one

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:51 AM

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Yeah, that

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:52 AM

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as i said i screenshot all of my ships, even the level 1's so i know who i should dorm and such to gather passive xp

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:52 AM

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Helena

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Put her in your dorm

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:53 AM

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ok

gloomy breach Jan 5, 2022, 11:54 AM

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A mistake I made for a long time was ignoring Helena. She does very little damage on her own, but her buff to the rest of the fleet is tremendous

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 11:56 AM

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i mean i spent my entire playtime leveling javelin and long island alone

hard python Jan 5, 2022, 12:58 PM

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hello

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im about to do the event hard stages

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i wanna know how my fleets should look

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one sec

rugged anchor Jan 5, 2022, 12:59 PM

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tbh, you shouldnt be asking in anothers thread, you shouls make your own

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