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carmine ginkgo
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alr here

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you can send your ships here now!! :)

tight berry
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Mobbing fleet

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Bossing fleet

carmine ginkgo
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the fleets look alright. Can you also show me your dock so i can see what better choices there are?

tight berry
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Any rares I should look for? It's a mess in there.

carmine ginkgo
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also for the fleet, you know the placement right?

so basically,

1 2 3
4 5 6

2 is flagship

4 is tank, 6 is off-tank

(the basics is like this)

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i'll list some of the good ones you have!! gimme a sec

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your boss fleet is alright, just place portland on 4

tight berry
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Don't know what settings to pick for good screenshots so apologies for the mess. ๐Ÿ˜…

carmine ginkgo
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dw!!

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since portland is really durable, you want her as tank

tight berry
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Guessing I need to get around to retrofitting her though since that's where she picks up her evasion?

carmine ginkgo
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the rabbit sisters look alright, they can stay there; so for boss fleet, all you need to do is switch helena and portland's placement

carmine ginkgo
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your mob fleet looks alright too. Id say move london and laffey

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like, as in moving london on the right and laffey on the inside

tight berry
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Ah, I see. Silly question, would I just go the top route for her retrofit for now? Haven't tried doing it for any of my ships yet.

carmine ginkgo
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yep! thats the only available place for her right now, so do that. Portland retrofit is not bad for early - mid game progression so def invest in her

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also. a tip: DO NOT. EVER. invest in prinz eugen

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she is very bad everywhere- main story maps, pvp, everything

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like, shes just a brick wall

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only good in hp, nothing else rl

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feel free to ask away!! dw if it seems like a "stupid question", i'm here to help out :D

tight berry
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Lol, I've been told that early on. ๐Ÿ™‚
Should I invest in Adalbert as my tank instead of Portland?

carmine ginkgo
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and as for the rares- except phoenix, the rest are not the best.

carmine ginkgo
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adalbert is very nice

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tho for now portland is also useful, so your choice

tight berry
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Gotcha, just wondering which would be the better long term investment.

carmine ginkgo
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me myself is preparing to get adalbert to higher level bcuz im going into w13 with no good tanks

carmine ginkgo
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(i do have portland retro, but she does no damage in late-game)

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(i dont mean literally no damage, what she does is just rl mediocre compared to what else i have)

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also keep on doing the pulls!! eventually you'll get better ships and they can replace your current ones.

def invest in helena and saratoga tho. Those two can carry you all the way to late game

tight berry
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๐Ÿ‘ Thanks for the info. I knew Portland was good for some reason, but didn't know why.
Jokes on me, wasn't even using her as a tank.

Can you explain this part of the FAQ to me?

Q: What stage should i farm?
A: With the introduction of oil cap, best oil:point efficiency wise setup is 1:1 mob and 3:3 
boss in D3, second best is 1:1 all enemies in C2.```
What's 1:1 all enemies in C2 mean? I do plan on just grinding out C2 since that's what everyone else in the other channel was saying, just not sure what a 1:1 setup is.
carmine ginkgo
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ahh so

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1:1 fleet is like

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one backline + one frontline

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C2 is the stage, so farm C2 with like one backline and one frontline

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so like, it means (for example) one saratoga and one london. thats a 1:1 fleet

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i mean considering your level, i wouldnt suggest doing that

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if you'd like to run C2 ESPECIALLY on 1:1 then id say you need lvl 110+ for both the backline and the frontline

tight berry
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Lol, I'll just grind away at it normally for now. My ships can definitely use the xp.

carmine ginkgo
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definitely. Dw about like, limiting the oil yet since you're not at that point. Just use the oil and make your fleet grow for now.

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i usually run 2:2 in events

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its bcuz 1:1 takes more time but less oil

and 3:3 takes less time but more oil

so 2:2 is the perfect balance between saving time and oil

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so those are the points you need to consider. Time, oil or exp progression?

tight berry
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Looking at my mobbing fleet, it seems like my current setup doesn't warrant replacing anyone with Magdeburg?

carmine ginkgo
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yeah tbh, you should keep what you have right now.

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its good enough for now at least

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and if you get exp packs you can just use these on adalbert so she still gets progression

tight berry
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Oh, right. I have those. ๐Ÿ˜…

carmine ginkgo
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yep!! use these on the ships that you dont rl have the chance to level up in farming but still would like to use. Like adalbert

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ohh i have an idea

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you could run a 1:2 fleet in lower stages to farm exp for adalbert

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like, kaga at the back with adalbert + another lower level ship you'd like to level up

tight berry
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Would that be better than trying to grind away at C2? ๐Ÿค”

carmine ginkgo
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i mean if theres an event definitely consider grinding in events. Once this event is over, just go back to like 3-4 or smth

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since you get event currency that could buy important stuff for you rn

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like im assuming you need gears and plates?

tight berry
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Most likely? Tbh I don't really know what I do and don't need.

carmine ginkgo
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how much have you upgraded your gear?

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you can just send a screenshot of your gears too, see if i can help in any way

tight berry
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Only some Helldivers and a torp so far. Incoming screenshot.

carmine ginkgo
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ahh i see. So not much enhanced gear yet

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what i would suggest is to get the gears you use to +3

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that would immediately boost your damage

tight berry
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Don't think I have much gear worth upgrading though. >.< Or the right ones equipped.

carmine ginkgo
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id also say to invest a bit more into those

carmine ginkgo
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lemme c

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i mean, for now those are good enough

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definitely upgrade them a little so that you can get to a higher level then having a larger chance of getting good gears

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what commander lvl are you rn?

tight berry
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Lvl 58.
I'm blocked from world 8 currently. XD

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Aviation tanks are worth upgrading? And I read that the Helldiver is still better than the Destroyer.

carmine ginkgo
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the helldiver is better, but that one is also good

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for your reference, i stepped into w8 (midgame) with +7 gears on everything. Cleared the map rl fast

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and once you go into w9 and there will be 9-4, which is a huge struggle. You'd def need much more upgraded gears by then

tight berry
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Phew. Would I want the tanks on my mobbing CVs, or bossing CVs?

carmine ginkgo
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if that CV is low in hp, give them the avi tank

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so id say mostly mob.

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since the CV in mob needs to be a bit more long lasting

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whereas in boss fleet its rl just one fight

tight berry
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Lol, a +3 tank gives the CV 40 hp.

carmine ginkgo
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yep. and you'd need it eventually

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those buffs make more differences in late game tbh

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but yeah. anything else you'd like to ask?

tight berry
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Err, if you don't mind I'll dump in some ship gear screenshots.

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Do you like the gear tab, or the info tab better?

carmine ginkgo
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im fine with any :)

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okay so, phoenix is tanky enough so you dont need more hp gears on her

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if you have evasive gears then use these on her

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and whereas you need hp gears on the destroyers for now. They have much lower hp and you'd want them to do their job

tight berry
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That look better?

carmine ginkgo
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im thinking an autoloader and that blue evasive gear may be the best for phoenix.

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but yeah the first three slots look good!!

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if you need more help you can DM me / add me as friend, i have to go for now ;-;

tight berry
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No worries, thanks for the help! ๐Ÿ‘

carmine ginkgo
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yep!!