toothly nub? gear help D

[high kernel]

check ectl for gear guide

[broken cradle]

this looks like a case of not having the gear in the first place, also plates. D3 farming is going to help a lot with plates at least

[high kernel]

and, you should focus on 4-6 ships

[tacit lodge]

So wot do ai du?

[silent barn]

Better gear

[ruby sand]

pretty much

[wet ferry]

looks like a case of not having played long enough tbh

what gear you do have looks well placed, but you simply dont have enough of it

[tacit lodge]

Yeh

[ruby sand]

c2 in the event currently drops a decent gun

the right one

[wet ferry]

ye eugen gun good for CA

vs med/heavy

and more toolkits

[tacit lodge]

I think I have that gomd thingi

[ruby sand]

pretty much the to go gun if in doubt

[wet ferry]

for your dds

[ruby sand]

just put it on whatever

[tacit lodge]

Lemme check

[wet ferry]

you also gonna need to start +10ing the good gears you have atm, that'll help

[broken cradle]

also a lot of missing gear levels, c2 and d3 are both going to be good for your plates. id only really do c2 if you can do it 1:1 though, and even then id prefer d3 to get exp

[wet ferry]

quint gold torp is pretty decent

[tacit lodge]

I am using those right?

[wet ferry]

you got eugengun there u can put it on someone

he should be able to 1:1 c2

[tacit lodge]

This will make enough difference D:?

[wet ferry]

i was able to within a month of playing

[ruby sand]

probably not lmao

[wet ferry]

did ranger+laffey mob and amagi+leander boss

[ruby sand]

you need to gear up your ships in general

[tacit lodge]

Howww?

[wet ferry]

but to 1:1 consistently you do want +10 gear just to make it quicker and smoother

[ruby sand]

can u post all your ships?

[wet ferry]

so depends

[ruby sand]

at least the SR ones

[tacit lodge]

Ye sec

[wet ferry]

but yea if u dump your best planes on chise, you can totally 1:1 c2 with like chise+javelin

[tacit lodge]

Those are my bewt planes I tjink

[wet ferry]

got no barracuda at all?

[broken cradle]

Leveling up new ships isnt going to help him clear strongholds before reset, actually nothing really is at this point, hes just gear and plate starved

[wet ferry]

not even purple one?

[ruby sand]

I mean dude u have good ships

yuki, hood, z46, beside the sss gridman girls

ark royal retrofit once u can, for bosses

[tacit lodge]

Eh gmeta better than hood right?

[wet ferry]

ye its just gear issue

[broken cradle]

its just gear and plate starvation, strongholds REALLY expect you to go in with +10 gear

[ruby sand]

yes but for opsi u can have 4 fleets

[wet ferry]

for c2 do chise+javelin, and have 2nd fleet on standby just to fill requirement

go farm up some purple plates

[tacit lodge]

Wait how many plates do I need?

[wet ferry]

+10 helldiver on chise and +10 twin120 on jav + 2 toolboxes should be enough

chise preload nukes most things

[ruby sand]

to upgrade, a lot, the aux upgrade plates are what most people lack

[wet ferry]

the more plates the better

[ruby sand]

I mean thats enough to max a bunch of stuff

[wet ferry]

you want to be +10ing all the good gear you have

[broken cradle]

ffs use your plates on gear that you have thats recommended on the guides

[wet ferry]

go +10 your helldivers, you got enough plates

[broken cradle]

plates sitting in your inventory are not adding damage

[wet ferry]

then go 1:1 c2 for more

[tacit lodge]

I havent upgraded the right gear?

[wet ferry]

helldiver was fine, purple fighter is ehh but ok if 2x500. +6 only tho imo

[silent barn]

I have to bring hedgehog to play it safe in c2 but maybe you don't have to with preload and leveled chise

[wet ferry]

406mk6 or twin410 for your bbs +10 is good

[ruby sand]

nah man lmao, u have like 1 or 2 +10 gears

[wet ferry]

he got lvl118 chise lvl114 jav should be fine

[ruby sand]

get all to +6 and + 10 those that are recommended in the gear guide

[wet ferry]

i only put hedgehog on lvl100 sandykai bc using lvl80 elbe. also works fine

[tacit lodge]

Those going to cost alot per run right?

[wet ferry]

with the lvls just decent gear is enough

[tacit lodge]

Hmm

[wet ferry]

+10 helldiver on chise, +10 twin120 on jav and 2x toolbox instead of blue rudder

would be 22 oil per battle iirc

[tacit lodge]

Lemme do that first

[wet ferry]

not the best, not the worst.

[ruby sand]

did u start playing with the gridman collab?

[wet ferry]

i mean i started c2 1:1ing in SO rerun with lvl80 ranger and lvl100 laffey with subpar equip, it should be fine

ranger with lvl1 skill too lol, and not retrofitted

if u need to, use a 2nd 1:1 for boss, but you shouldnt, with those levels

[silent barn]

Your Laffey is not 100+?

[tacit lodge]

Yes

[wet ferry]

this was in late october/early november

now shes 120 obviously

[ruby sand]

actually crazy that u got pretty much all collab banner ships dude

insane luck

[tacit lodge]

Lmao

Yume qte 78 cubes thats the worst

Streak but othervise gud

[wet ferry]

[broken cradle]

do note that d3 is only slightly worse for plates/oil as well, clearing bonuses have plates

[wet ferry]

make helldiver +10

[ruby sand]

you really need to do something about that blue gear on chise man

[wet ferry]

also show us ur torpedo bomber options pls

[tacit lodge]

Oh ops

[ruby sand]

[wet ferry]

yes show torp bomber options

otherwise looks fine

just that torp bomber is

[silent barn]

Barra

[wet ferry]

put the purple barra

on her

ark wants converging anyway

but dam u got unlucky on torpbombers ig

[tacit lodge]

+10?

[wet ferry]

i managed to get quite a few purple barras

[silent barn]

No need

[ruby sand]

nah

[wet ferry]

nah +6 is enough on that

[ruby sand]

u wont use it anyways once u get better ones

[wet ferry]

then that's plenty to 1:1 c2

[tacit lodge]

Yeah I literqlly have no planes I recently had to get planes literally my first hell diver and f4u like few days ago

[wet ferry]

and get all dem plates

[ruby sand]

helldiver for once is good on every carrier in the game and better than a lot of gold gear

so u cant go wrong with upgrading that

[tacit lodge]

Sec reading

[wet ferry]

c2 will help u with toolkits too

[potent snow]

go craft Tenzan in gear lab and give it to Ark

[wet ferry]

in my experience c2 map seem to have good bp drop rate. i left SO rerun with like 20+ helldivers (both created and blueprints only)

[tacit lodge]

Lemme check tenzan

[wet ferry]

and im getting 2 toolbox bps per c2 run here, on average

[broken cradle]

if im not mistaken in my math d3 is only like 10% worse in plates/oil while giving exp to a full fleet. Clearing bonuses have plates

[wet ferry]

so yea youll get a load of toolboxes and be set for life

[wet ferry]

ye true but it doesnt unlock for another 5 hours

also im not 100% sure if toothly can do d3, but we'll find out ig

[tacit lodge]

Eh

[wet ferry]

it's fine

[tacit lodge]

:D hopefully

[wet ferry]

also for new player id say stick in c2 for a couple days still. toolboxes much easier than from 3-4, imo

[potent snow]

craft the blue one

[wet ferry]

also eugen gun

if lucky

[potent snow]

then make tenzan

[tacit lodge]

Lemme check

[ruby sand]

eugen gun is the gold gun that drops on c2 btw

[broken cradle]

He should be able to do d3 just fine, its 105, he was trying to tackle a stronghold

[tacit lodge]

Crafted tenzan first time ceafting in gear lab also 😅

[potent snow]

[tacit lodge]

Who do I gib tenzan?

[broken cradle]

ark

[potent snow]

Ark

[silent barn]

Has you even used ark to start worry about tenzan

[ruby sand]

also btw, if your ship is lower level than the enemy you fight u take more dmg and they less

same works if u are over the enemy level, in your favor

[wet ferry]

at 11k points

[wet ferry]

so i suggest do c2 for a day then go d3

[potent snow]

craft 2 of them

[tacit lodge]

Ohh sec

[potent snow]

also I see 1 purple steam cata in your depot

why don't you give it to Ark

[tacit lodge]

Electric said bonk

[potent snow]

[wet ferry]

do opsi

[silent barn]

Grind game

[tacit lodge]

Well stronghold is opsi cqnt do thqt or atleast easily

[broken cradle]

all of your hiddens already done?

[tacit lodge]

Nope. Prob

[silent barn]

Normal maps are easier though

[wet ferry]

do hiddens then

[silent barn]

No need to do stronghold when you can't

[wet ferry]

stronghold is mostly for purple token anyway

[silent barn]

Do c5 maps

[tacit lodge]

So plan is do c5 and then get tenzan and then?

Farm C2 and move to d3 once???

[wet ferry]

i would farm c2 for a bit, get a couple toolboxes and plates, then head down to d3 when it unlocks

[ruby sand]

I would farm c2 from the event and get toolkits, put it on every single vanguard ship u have

[tacit lodge]

Does c2 have better drop rates than normal?

[ruby sand]

at least the ones u use

[wet ferry]

a happy medium is like

do c2 for like 3-4 days

then do d3

c2 is definitely better than 3-4

in my experience

it was better than 3-2 in skybound too

[tacit lodge]

🤔

[wet ferry]

higher bp droprate

[broken cradle]

c2 is better than 3-4, reason = elites

[wet ferry]

prolly cuz of elites idk

[tacit lodge]

Elites?

[wet ferry]

i mean all mob can drop purple gear bp

but elites prolly have higher chance

[tacit lodge]

The big sirens?

[broken cradle]

elite mobs have far higher drop rates than normal mobs

[tacit lodge]

Oo

[wet ferry]

my result from skybound c2

[broken cradle]

its not actually a matter of probable they are well over 2x normal mob drop rates

[wet ferry]

and this

[tacit lodge]

Laffi hacking?

[wet ferry]

i wasnt certain of the fact

i dont like to make definitive statements unless i am certain of it

[tacit lodge]

So c2 for few days?

[wet ferry]

ye

[tacit lodge]

Or when do ai know thwt ai have done enough?

[ruby sand]

at least until u have enough toolkits

to put one on every vanguard ship in your opsi fleet

[wet ferry]

id stop at like 8-10 toolkits i guess

[tacit lodge]

Hmm so around 6+?

[wet ferry]

there's no real number

[tacit lodge]

[wet ferry]

youll add to the toolkit count over time via tech boxes

i have like 4 unused toolkits sitting around now lol

[ruby sand]

ah right, do you open your tech boxes?

[tacit lodge]

Lemme show

[ruby sand]

some people forget they exist

[wet ferry]

but it's mostly a feeling thing, and dependent on how much u hate swapping gear

once u feel u got enough, move to d3

[tacit lodge]

Literally my luck suck

😂

[silent barn]

You got those combat data pack

Analyze them and buy some nice gear bp

[tacit lodge]

Yeah I was saving for uvh

If si get her

Oh younmewn those

Analyze all?

[silent barn]

Yeah

[tacit lodge]

Sec

Doing oki?

[wet ferry]

get yourself a champygun

[silent barn]

Yes

[tacit lodge]

Sec

[potent snow]

He bought it this month already

[ruby sand]

the ships that those are used for are outscaled by pr 3 and 4 already

even a lot of banner ships

[wet ferry]

seems only 1?

wait

o

welp wait like 3 days

[tacit lodge]

😂

[silent barn]

Does he really need a AP gun this soon

[tacit lodge]

Also I got enough for black shell

Imma buy right?

[ruby sand]

white better

[tacit lodge]

I have and also have indep

[silent barn]

Save for another white

[tacit lodge]

[silent barn]

Next month

[potent snow]

buy the black

[tacit lodge]

Never expected that answer xd

[ruby sand]

the 8% crit rate isnt as good as the 25% crit dmg generally

[potent snow]

?

just use both

[broken cradle]

toothy should be able to save for and buy a white next month anyways, black is safe to get

[ruby sand]

yea but white is better than black

and he cant buy both

[wet ferry]

i needed it starting in month 2, but was only able to get it mid-month-3

[tacit lodge]

Idk I am playing w8 for cores

[wet ferry]

having 1 on hand will never hurt

[potent snow]

he bought white this month

[broken cradle]

he already got this month's white, and be can just save and buy next month's white anyways after buying black

[wet ferry]

the only thing youd need from pr3 more is sexybofor for w13, but you need ap gun for w13 too so...

[tacit lodge]

So wot now?

[ruby sand]

but black or white doesnt matter

depends on how much u farm core data

[wet ferry]

he already bought white

[tacit lodge]

Bleck cant bui white

[ruby sand]

if u can buy both again next month

[wet ferry]

this month

buy black now

[ruby sand]

buy both

[wet ferry]

next month, buy both again

[tacit lodge]

I farm every day but on w8 cause I havent unlocked others yet

[wet ferry]

and definitely get a champygun next month

[tacit lodge]

Wot is champy gun

[wet ferry]

helps a bunch in opsi vs med/heavy, and from ch12+ except 12-2 and 14-3 boss

[ruby sand]

you really need to stop using ship lingo

[tacit lodge]

Bought

[ruby sand]

for beginners

[wet ferry]

pr3 gun

[silent barn]

Yeah you'll have enough for 2 shells next month

[wet ferry]

eh i picked it up within a month easy enough

[tacit lodge]

Aa so anogher one

[wet ferry]

you dont learn it unless you are around it

[ruby sand]

I play since release and still didnt

have to double check all the time

[wet ferry]

do /glossary then

there's only a few relevant gun anyway

[tacit lodge]

[wet ferry]

like for bbs its like. mk6, mk7, champygun, fdg gun, georgia gun

what else

dunno if theres any other relevant one

ig jb gun for jb specifically

[tacit lodge]

You know too much for around 2 month player

Xd

[wet ferry]

anyway mk7 is apparently iowa gun too according to my guild discord kek

i learned it today

[silent barn]

Is that gun from NJ event

[wet ferry]

yea

[silent barn]

Yeah apparently iowa class

[tacit lodge]

Guild thqt I am in could have more people

So wot now?

Am I readi to c2?

[silent barn]

Go try

[wet ferry]

yea ur chise and jav are fine

[tacit lodge]

Ill inform then

[wet ferry]

for the fleet that need requirement just put the requirement, and fill rest slot with CV to get air supremacy

[tacit lodge]

?

[silent barn]

?

[tacit lodge]

Oh

[wet ferry]

welp my discord is fucking up again, sigh

i cant post img

[tacit lodge]

Like fill second?

Fleet with cv and requirements

[silent barn]

First fleet

Fill first fleet

[tacit lodge]

But I am jsing first fleet to clep c2?

[ruby sand]

c2 shouldnt be that hard tho, 2 lvl 100+ ships should be enough

[wet ferry]

ok my fleet 1 is richie + lusty, ancho + maille (maille not needed it was for c3 lol)

my fleet 2 is elbe, sandykai

[ruby sand]

and one for boss

[wet ferry]

i only use fleet 2, fleet 1 is standby

only use fleet 2

[tacit lodge]

Ahh

[wet ferry]

god i wish my discord isnt so fucky in this country

would be so much easier to explain with img

[tacit lodge]

😂

[silent barn]

Discord can differ based on country?

[wet ferry]

idk

oh it finally posted

yea imgs have huge issue processing for me for some reason

[tacit lodge]

Lemme test and Ill post pic of the fleet

[wet ferry]

so for this fleet 1 is only to fill requirement so i can enter stage. lusty there to guarantee air supremacy (tbh prolly not needed lmao)

i use fleet 2 for mob+boss

fleet 1 standby

[potent snow]

remember to use hedgehog

there are subs

[wet ferry]

hedgehog if your ship is low level

when i ran indepkai+poikai (125/120) no need sub

[ruby sand]

this is what I run for c2 right now

prinz only in there for the quest

[silent barn]

He got preload so will clear it fast anyway

[wet ferry]

yea

chise+anything for me nuke instant

only really want hedgehog if using an underlevelled bad backliner tbh.

[ruby sand]

kinda hard to waste all your oil anyways with the 4k oil pack per week

[wet ferry]

tho interestingly enough my elbe is mvping sometimes over sandy despite the level difference

but she also has +13 rocket

[tacit lodge]

Ehh

I dont know how to fill

[wet ferry]

wrong way

put chise jav in 2nd

fill first fleet to meet requirement

[tacit lodge]

Ohh

[silent barn]

And a lb0 ulrich with +0 mgm

[potent snow]

click clear and put again

[tacit lodge]

I didnt know thwt

[silent barn]

Pressure on vanguard

[wet ferry]

thats a bad backliner

[tacit lodge]

?

[wet ferry]

all 0lbs are bad

[tacit lodge]

First stand

[wet ferry]

now set fleet 2 to 'all enemies' and fleet 1 to 'standby'

[tacit lodge]

Second all

[wet ferry]

like this

[wet ferry]

lmao my img so delayed

[tacit lodge]

Lmao urs supa slow

Also you habe skin for chise?

[wet ferry]

i blame either the internet or country im in, whatever it is, it does not like discord processing images

works fine in canada but not here

its funny too bc i can upload images to like imgur just fine

its a discord issue

[tacit lodge]

😂

[silent barn]

Well what else can I say, I just came back last month so no urin yet to lb

[wet ferry]

it's a great skin

[tacit lodge]

Arent you f2p :0

[wet ferry]

[tacit lodge]

How xd?

[wet ferry]

f2p can be temporary

while chise skin disappearing is eternal

[tacit lodge]

Oh yeah

[wet ferry]

nobrainer

[tacit lodge]

[wet ferry]

[tacit lodge]

All gud so now aill test the setup

[wet ferry]

man after using indepkai all the time elbe feels real slow

[tacit lodge]

I dont know much about sync thingies

😅

[silent barn]

Will need more gear for that

More choices

[tacit lodge]

Uuf

[wet ferry]

its a lategame thing and minmaxing

ignore it for now

[tacit lodge]

[wet ferry]

also my comment wasnt about syncing its just. indep is so fucking fast every other cv/l feels like ass now

[tacit lodge]

Jav seems to take some amount of dmg this is third fight and she has lik 60% hp

Aa

[wet ferry]

the elites will do the most dmg, it should be ok

[silent barn]

Yeah that's normal my nimi got around that too

[tacit lodge]

Ah lets see

[wet ferry]

if she ends up dying on boss you can make your first fleet akane+rikka+yume and have that kill the boss instead

first event c2 1:1 may be a lil dicey so dont be worried

[tacit lodge]

Gotta see results first

[wet ferry]

dont forget to use double line formation if you arent already

[tacit lodge]

Havent lemme check

Oh the boss got

Wasnt even safe yet lmao

[wet ferry]

oh yeah...

do it on safe lmao

[silent barn]

Who died

[tacit lodge]

Hopefully fleet wont eat rockets

Boss died

[wet ferry]

i forgot

oh

that gud

[silent barn]

Alright then that's set

[tacit lodge]

Javelin was like 25%

[tacit lodge]

Forgor

So now this for hours 😂

[wet ferry]

for reference, lvl100 sandykai at end of boss

[tacit lodge]

I think I dont understand😅

[wet ferry]

basically if u got good gear hp is no concern for c2

even mediocre gear will be fine

[silent barn]

For reference

[wet ferry]

kill enemy quicker = less damage taken

[silent barn]

Going into boss

[wet ferry]

how

my elbe full hp

[silent barn]

Well this is one unlucky run

[wet ferry]

elbe > uvh

[tacit lodge]

You guys also doing c2 🤔

?

[wet ferry]

oh yea ur uvh is 0lb i forgot

is she taking hits from subs or what

[silent barn]

Planes I think

[wet ferry]

ah

[tacit lodge]

Oh

[silent barn]

Nimi got bad AA

[wet ferry]

chuck a sexybofor on nimi and pray

[silent barn]

But boss has no backline dmg so safe enough

[wet ferry]

i remember my first run with elbe (lvl80) she was half health at the end

then i put hedge on sandy and problem vanished

[tacit lodge]

Yeah another round went well

[wet ferry]

sandy has almost dd-levels of ASW its nice

[silent barn]

Even with DD can't trust auto to deal with subs without hedgehog

[wet ferry]

my hedge is +10 tbf

nukes all subs

[tacit lodge]

How many hedges are even needed?

[wet ferry]

i like how i made it in prep for w14 but i am using it on an easy event map instead

[silent barn]

Only 1

[wet ferry]

you can only have 1 so

[tacit lodge]

Oh so I have enough

[wet ferry]

its mission reward only

[tacit lodge]

Thsts gud to know

Ill continue doing c2 till enough tool kits and move to d3 will I be enough for strongholds after this?

[silent barn]

Not quite

You still lack offensive gear

[tacit lodge]

Wot should I do?

[silent barn]

Play the game open boxes do opsi gear lab

[tacit lodge]

rip

[wet ferry]

junk cvl, has +13 gear and sandykai still take mvp often

[tacit lodge]

I wish elbe gets loading screen skins

[silent barn]

Smh not oath yet

[tacit lodge]

Yeh no skin still idk who to oath

[wet ferry]

would become p2w for that and buy all

[wet ferry]

waiting for wiki aka nagami to have her voicelines

otherwise im sitting on my ring bc it is precious and i got many loves

[tacit lodge]

Does elbe have good quotes?

[silent barn]

Just 980 gems for that double ring pack

[wet ferry]

no clue on EX lines yet

from what i seen so far, i like her

[tacit lodge]

How about normal

[wet ferry]

i find this funny tho

[tacit lodge]

Cute

Also you got her by pulling 3/day?

Or you went all out on first day?

[silent barn]

I also like Elbe most this time

Don't like ulrich

But a UR is a UR so yeah

[tacit lodge]

Ye ulpoor

[silent barn]

Actually I don't like any UR except for Shima and maybe a bit of Shinano

[tacit lodge]

Hopefully new urs nicer

[wet ferry]

first day

well

i did 3 to start

[tacit lodge]

Lucki

[wet ferry]

then 1 10 pull, got uvh and adalbert

then 2nd 10 pull got elbe lol

and i was gonna stop after 2 10 pulls and do 3/day

so now i dont even do that, i do 1 light/day

[tacit lodge]

Unfair xd

[wet ferry]

same shinano and shima NJ UvH

[silent barn]

Oh yeah NJ is okay

[tacit lodge]

Nj oki I guess

[wet ferry]

ah well 2.5 out of 4 aint that bad

apart from me missing them

[tacit lodge]

I dont get your luck

[silent barn]

I don't get YOUR luck

[wet ferry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/760701055113232384.gif?v=1&size=64

[silent barn]

You got all the SSSS girls

[wet ferry]

i missed akane

but i didnt pull hard for her tho

[tacit lodge]

...? How is that lucky xd?

[silent barn]

While I missed a lot of Nep girls back then

And the kizuna ai collab too

[tacit lodge]

I spend still quite alot of cubes

[silent barn]

Well

[tacit lodge]

Yikes

[silent barn]

My #1 and #3 in that collab is white heart and black heart

Missed both

[tacit lodge]