#w12 fleet help
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This is my box https://imgur.com/a/rVXS3hD

Oh I thought it'd be easier to send imgur link

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are you ok with using maxed ships btw
Yeah I am
I thought mans was legit sending fodders to w12-4 
same lmao

The link image had me shook
I mean you could just like run
perseus + 2 CV or something + 3 random vanguard
and 2CV+1BB/3CV backline +random tank + sandy + random vanguard
I know I have good ships and levels and I am by no means a newb but I am bad at fleet building
well if you want a fleet that just rolls over w12 like
I wanna theoretically just auto farm w 12-4 for her
W12 is a pushover
I did initial clear with like lvl 95 indep and illustrious
dont ask
why? 
so you're more than fine
I've heard Casablanca is good I am working on her rn
i mean like you could just run what i mentioned, just throw whatever you have leveled into the classes i mentioned before
casa is like walmart indep 
sounds good, but a more mobbing orientated bb might be better and save nj for boss
shiny nj percy + good vg setup can even one fleet w12-4 honestly 
What bb would you recommend? I have like every ship
oh jesus christ youre absolutely loaded
i mean first off the point of w12 is that you can do whatever fleets you want really
fdg for mobs honestly
because as long as you have decent aa literally anything can work
I have decent equips also
but if you really just want something which just rolls over the map (and will roll over w13 too)
for mob peresus fdg enterprise portland shimakaze seattle
for boss do like NJ shinano warspite azuma helena sandy
2 enterprise
oops
I mean I have little enterprise at 120 lol
good enough
can you get it to 25?
From my experience the only thing that really matter for mob in ch12 safe, is that you have a decent enough tank and know how to equip your backline so it doesn't all fire at the same time. Min maxing the equipment matters a lot more than which ships you bring
I have no prints
yea but using ships which arent dev30 
I could show my equips?
Nerez dont tell me you didnt use agir dev15 
no i waited till she was dev30 
i have better options lmao why would i use a shittier version of a ship when i could wait
i mean you could, but with your levels and selection you can still steamroll the map with even mediocre equips 
honestly pick waifu
back in the non-oilcap days, it was gruesome to use a 19 oil undev'd fdg 
So this for mob?
cause im weird like thart
And this fleet will obviously work for 10-3 to 12-4 also right?
stacking 513 bps and not even using it until it's full is hard 
the fleets i gave you should work even on 13-4 lol 
its not jhard, because the end result is satisfying
patience issues ig 
Normally you should equip them differently if you wanted to do ch 10 and 11 but you are so over leveled that i don't think it would even mattered
For the recommend boss fleet would warspite or NJ need to be in the flagship spot?
neither
neither needs flag
both work off flag
Oh nice to know
run NJ flag though i think she has more HP
Yeah see I play the game religiously but I don't know shit
shinanope with her floof barrage takes flag 
Would there be any recommend equips or just what I have that is the best for in slot?
you probably have bis gear ngl 
eh just general good equips are probably fine
decent AA fighters, best guns for your other slots
follow a good gear guide 
I usually use this website to help with gearing https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
ah yes
just generic gears will do
Like the best I have is research gear idk how gear lab works
just like for reference btw, im literally running 13-4 rn with these fleets (without calling subs), youll be fine 
especially if you call subs on boss or something
and gear lab stuff is from op siren, you need to do it more to get access to its stuff 
I uh never use subs because they cost more oil for exp farming lol
well they help when youre clearing the maps on lethal vs bosses
start using them now 
Just play OS then you get the materials. You can bypass a lot of steps by using the prints for generic gear you probably already have accumulated over time
The best sub gear I have is like one purple lol
Never worked on subs hard
id reccomend you pick the best sub fleet you can make and set it to auto-call in opsiren
while you play opsi this is a nice passive source of exp anyways
archer + albacore + cavalla/nautis probably the best u can make
but if the subs youre using rn are already invested in in terms of skills and stuff you can use them for now
theyre just helpful to call in to do a big burst of damage on boss 
like you clear without them its just more annoying
I just never found them useful because for like the past 2 months I've just been farming for exp on 9-4
isnt w11 the best xp:oil ratio map to farm? 
oh how painful
Highest map I've cleared is 10-2
9-4 is such a badly designed map
For lulu
Yeah I have excess oil from the weekly pack and wanted to try getting there now
They are pretty useful for late game content. They are very helpful when clearing 13-4 for the first times and mobs in ch14. Also contribute quite a bit when facing abyssal bosses
I never knew how to get the gear for them and the daily is so annoyinh I could never complete kt
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I'm not good with difficult things in games
Well. My best advice is to clear their daily. I never bothered with the SOS missions. Just tapped their daily missing every week and let the prints built up on their own. Also buy their aux from the coreshop every month if you can afford it
I have a lot of core data, only problem is idk how their daily works and I've never been able to do it
That's my sub gear rn
Basically. It is meant to be played manually. You control your sub fleet and are expected to evade the enemies until the map scrolls naturally and at the end you face a boss. You win if you sink the boss. Your score depends on
1)being fast
2)how many cargo (treasure) ships you sinked along the way
3) not letting any of your girls sink
You have limited torpedos, how many you have and how much damage they make depend on what your subs have equipped and their own stats naturally.
The best strat is to focus on only sinking 2 cargo ships (the minimum for the top grade) and try not to waste any torpedoes on the mobs. Then throw everything you have at the boss.
Do the lowest level one. And use it fit practice when it stat feeling too easy go for the next level
You should be able to clear the easiest one with your girls. The next levels just have mire mobs and a harder hitting boss. Nothing else really changes. The mechanic os the same. Is just a matter of getting better at manual play and leveling up your girls to increase their stats
Yeah I've never really done manual play in the 3 years I've been playing, I am bad at it
Imo you are missing out on some fun. Specially lately. On the first couple years the bullet hell was pretty much mainly reserved for EX bosses and the regular convent wasn't as challenging. But it has changed. The abyssal sirens and the arbiters are so well designed in a gameplay sense that it is very fun t control your units and dodge. Even the gridman collab had a pretty great boss battle design. It was jyst a shame that the levels were too low for veteran players
I mean I prefer auto play, and I play the game more for the skins and art than the actual gameplay so I've always struggled with harder things in the game
I respect that. I too also really appreciate the art of the game. But regarding the sub daily there isn't much else i can tell you, you can only sit down and practice.
Yeah I guess I will do that and thank you everyone else for your help I'll try and go clear now