#Team for Gneisenau META
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Is ur FDG dev30?
I see 2 stars missing 
am i blind or do i not see helena?
Is Anchorage, Laffey, helena a bad idea?
Cuz on that fight she forces ur vanguard to stay put quite a lot
Anchorage can increase de survability there
Laffey cuz DD, probably using a Hedge hog if u need more ASW
And Helena for debuffs
ok give me a sec
Helena will use the Seattle gun or Belfast gun kai
And Laffey can use the Iron Blood DD gun from gear lab
this on laffey?
Ye, that is pretty good vs mid and heavy armor as far as I remember
I would say go for better EVA DD , but when I tried to use Javelin for pure EVA DD, it doesn't work because once she's hit, she's toast.
@high vortex I guess you don't have Shimakaze?
i do
The recommended "standard" vanguard comp will be Tank+Helena+dps (with hedgehog).
i think i do not have a gun for helena atm as I have not done enough research to get those
Helena's mostly there for her debuff skill, so it's not that much of a problem as long as you can keep her survive until the end of the battle (or at least the last 10 seconds)
can do some damage is a bonus
So for now it's Tank (CA/CB)+Helena+Shimakaze with Hedgehog.
I did not see that Shimakaze
Probably down there not mlbed yet
By any chance u have this repair aux that extends the lifetime of ur Eagle Union ships?
she is like 105
107 I think, fully mlb
Should be fine, but you may want to add more level to her.
110+ is recommended.
this?
yep, now use that on Helena.
And probably SG Radar?
Also, give Arizona's healing aux on your tank @high vortex
should i make shima 120 rn if i can
ATM, I was thinking
x2Rocket Lusty, Amagi, Warspite
Ancho, (109 Shima or 125 Laffey), Manjuu Helena
Balances your survivability and damage a bit
Later ... well you are missing a few key pieces 
Enty/Ark/(Centy or Indep)/Ancho/(Shima or Balti if USS leaning)/Helena
Well, if u can is not a bad idea. She IS the strongest DD
No, that only works with specific comp (and I mean BBs with short reload time when using Twin guns).
yes.
ok 115 is the max, got no money
Good enough
My Shimakaze is also 115. Out of coins
so this is the team, now to give them some eq
Now for the backline. you can have two modes. Full BB, or full CV.
for BBs basically just throw your best BB and sync it with Helena's skill
She will need SG Radar then, no?
If the BBs are using triple guns, no.
Shelling gun Monarch? Kinda weird
SG radar will make her skill interval shorter, at around 16 seconds
Well, Ark might be the biggest dmg burst
Shelling gun Mona to Helena time is pretty normal

Well, there's always the new twin 406 Mark 4 from the gear lab if we want her barrage and don't have 457 laying around. Then Helena will need her SG.
got 0 457s
@high vortex I see you have Friedrich. use her instead of Monarch, especially once you maxed the former's barrage.
I'll suggest this again, and recommend you wait until after the next event for more options
You are missing a few pieces or are low Dev on PR ships to get a really good comp
No NJ either (like me) 
gonna try both
Well, Amagi will be easier to sync than Monarch
i wasn't playing when NJ dropped
got over 300 cubes ready

on shima you want hedge + toolkit?
EVA, aka the rudder washing machine
Should work, but you may need to level Monarch a bit more. I woudn't recommend to swap it for Amagi because her medium armor (which will suffer more once Gneisenau starts firing your backine)
so this should work, remember i don't have many research weapons
Not recommended to use AP guns for general front line purposes but for this fight, it should be fine
the mogami gun?
twin 150
oh the TBtsk yeah
well my main goal is to get at least 250k consistently
the purple one is poverty option now that we have the gold upgrade in the lab.
That team should do more than 250k
^
you can also make a CV comp from this (you will need converging torpedo bombers though)
so ancho tank shima middle helena back? or should helena be in the middle
Not sure it will do 250k at those levels 
i have 3 ryusseis
Shima has enough EVA for off tank.
Any junkers?
anything research/gear lab related you can assume i do not have
If you have, then at the minimum, you can use Ark+Enty+Graf (I don't see Shoukek so that limits your option)
