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pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:39 AM

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kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:40 AM

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Oh thank you

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DorkHeart

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What am I doing wrong?

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They have their airstrikes sinked up

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:41 AM

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what is this for

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gnei meta?

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:41 AM

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But I struggle to reach 800k on the Genei fight

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:41 AM

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firstly, don't use wyvern on shinano

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that wasted a lot of damage

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:42 AM

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+10 Ryusei > +13 Wyvern?

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:42 AM

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second ark always wants to launch first then hakuryuu for the debuff and shinano last

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ryuusei is always better on single target fight

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:42 AM

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pine vapor second ark always wants to launch first then hakuryuu for the debuff and shinano...

She does launch first by a literal 0.01s so don't worry

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:42 AM

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wyvern is better for mobbing purpose, like... 5-6 enemy in 1 screen

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:43 AM

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Ye it's just there so she can be used everywhere, I don't like swapping gear

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:43 AM

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Wyvern is useless in boss

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:44 AM

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yeah CheshireXD

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:44 AM

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For vanguards I run Ägir (torps sink with aistrikes), Kaza and Shima

Should I swap Shima for Helena?

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She gets in 120k reliably so I'm kinda iffy

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:44 AM

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the thing with helena is that

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if you CV can sync

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its poggers

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if its not, then go with others

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:44 AM

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But 60% UniHurt

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:45 AM

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that's part of rng

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:45 AM

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Yes, helena basically provides 300k edps

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Shima is nowhere near that

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:45 AM

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If it was 100% I wouldn't doubt it but I don't want to give up 80k damage for the coin flip of some better damage

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Math is math. Helena 300k is expected on average, not peak

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:46 AM

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who is your vanguard

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Ark is already giving me headaches as she only gets 180k in almost every match because she never procs her skil

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:46 AM

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pine vapor who is your vanguard

Ägir with matching torps, Kaza and Shima

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:46 AM

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What's the exact takeoff time for ark?

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:47 AM

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from what i heard, 21.5 is the sweet spot

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with ark and agir

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:47 AM

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coarse umbra What's the exact takeoff time for ark?

22'46

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:47 AM

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Well in my experience, 22 is ideal

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:47 AM

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oof that's almost a second past the sweet spot

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:48 AM

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I need to put slow gear on her because Shinano is a damn snail

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:48 AM

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mine is around 21.7 to 21.9

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Cuz you put wyvern on her, remove that garbage

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:48 AM

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eh

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:48 AM

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coarse umbra Cuz you put wyvern on her, remove that garbage

Haku would still be an issue tho, can't speed Haku any more

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:48 AM

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beacon

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suisei

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:49 AM

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She has it already

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:49 AM

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Oh your haku is not dev30

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:49 AM

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personally i did sacrifice dive bomber for timing adjustment

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works well

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:50 AM

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Let me try to see what I can get her to load on if I put suisei on Haku

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:50 AM

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Then move tenrai to shinano, haku need suisei to speed up since she can't get fleet tech rld

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:50 AM

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I can shave off 1.2s seconds... Too much?

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:51 AM

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what's haku timing before

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:51 AM

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Ideally make it 22s

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For all 3

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:51 AM

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btw dfg whats your avg damage so far

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:51 AM

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pine vapor what's haku timing before

I don't have the numbers but she consistently launches right after the others, not even 0.2s later

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:51 AM

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Around 1.1m i guess?

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:51 AM

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pine vapor btw dfg whats your avg damage so far

High 700k to low 800k

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:52 AM

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ah that's nice

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:52 AM

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It's trash

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That's why I'm confused

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:52 AM

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mine around 925k

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the wyvern is the huge yikers nuri

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:52 AM

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My BBs got in 1.1M every match last season UniHurt

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:52 AM

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well support does give extra 200k damage

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so your actual number is around 900k ish

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:53 AM

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Should I just go to BBs then?

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:53 AM

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you can always test

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:53 AM

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I think the key is haku pre dev30, plus that wyvern, rest is not bad at all

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:53 AM

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I really don't want to take off Wyvern from Shinano

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:53 AM

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Emmm why?

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:53 AM

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fair enough

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:54 AM

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Because I use my IJN fleet quite a lot on OpSi, I like the screen clear

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I don't swap gear

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That's why I also have the +13 DB on her

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She's my cleaner

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:55 AM

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Just use gear quick swap i guess? And converging torp is enough to clear the rest of ops content anyway.

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:55 AM

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Let me share my Vangaurd gear... Maybe I'm doing something wrong there

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~~No won't use magnetic torp on Shima, she does really well and I want to keep it historical~~

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:56 AM

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I mean, was using my meta fleet to do abyssal bosses the other day, and they wiped a c6 BB boss with only one takeoff lol. It feels guuuuud

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:57 AM

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MutsukiHyperStare

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:57 AM

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coarse umbra I mean, was using my meta fleet to do abyssal bosses the other day, and they wip...

dev30 haku?

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:57 AM

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Should I just move the Wyvern to Indep? She has a +10 one currently

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:57 AM

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sure

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 5:58 AM

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Yup, dev30

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:58 AM

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What to do with the third Wyvern then? Perseus and Indep are the only other users of it rn

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:58 AM

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i mean that's not surprising

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dev30 haku steam rolls harder than shinano

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Any other ship that wants the Wyvern? RichelieuThink

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 5:59 AM

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aquila perseus

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Yeah Aquila... Can't remember her name in English sometimes PortDoll

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Outside of PvP... What's the porpuse of Aquila tho? I never ever used her on a non leveling fleet

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:01 AM

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PvE she's one of the strongest mobbing ship

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specially with wyvern

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btw dfg, do dive bomber do decent damage vs meta fight or it doesn't matter much?

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 6:02 AM

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And tbh her performance on boss is also very good, either healing mode or preload mode.

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 6:02 AM

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Isn't Perseus + FdG + Odin (for example) a better mobbing fleet? I feel like having to drag VV and Abruzzi in is just wasting slots for a slightly stronger opening

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:02 AM

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no

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from my experience since i don't have fdg dev25

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vv aquila perseus is crazy fast

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along with duca and shimakaze, rikka prolly the fastest mobbing

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Fdg is fine, but I can't say no to 6 preload ship mob fleet DunktsukiStare

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:04 AM

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fdg at mobbing shines the most at w14

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 6:04 AM

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Doesn't it have horrible uptime? Like all the damage is front loaded, once the first waves are gone their damage is going to fall off a cliff

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:04 AM

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kind jasper Doesn't it have horrible uptime? Like all the damage is front loaded, once the f...

it does but at the same time shimakaze and duca helps too with their torp preload

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 6:04 AM

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pine vapor btw dfg, do dive bomber do decent damage vs meta fight or it doesn't matter much...

They still matter but converging torps matter more

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 6:04 AM

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What I like about FdG + Perseus + Odin is your backline is always actively damaging the enemy rather than sitting there doing nothing

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:04 AM

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i see

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Nah, ops mob is too easy, it usually ends in 8 seconds

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:07 AM

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you should give a try tbh

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wyvern on both perseus and aquila is quite stupid vs mobs

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 6:07 AM

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The 6 preload is divided to 3 parts: first is VV preload, it will hit first,
Then it's the preload torps
The preload airstrike comes last.
Usually a weaker mob node will be wiped out by that

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 6:08 AM

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Wait VV preload first? Isn't her reduction like 80%?

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:08 AM

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yeah

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20% reload time needed from first salvo which is like...3 second or 4 second after fight starts NJerseyXD

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 6:09 AM

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How does it hit faster than even vanguard torps? Even if HSFCR

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:10 AM

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bb animation

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bb animation halts other projectiles by a lot

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 6:11 AM

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Thinkpitz I guess it makes sense but damn I didn't expect VV to hit before Shima

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:12 AM

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currently im using NJ enty shinano vs gnei meta

coarse umbra Dec 21, 2021, 6:12 AM

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Well shima has 2 preload, the second one will also come late

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:12 AM

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second one is prolly another 1-2 second after 1st preload

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 6:14 AM

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Alrighty thanks guys, will definitely try Helena and maybe swap the Wyven if I don't get good results, we can close this now if you wish

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Thank you two very much

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DorkHeart

pine vapor Dec 21, 2021, 6:14 AM

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np

kind jasper Dec 21, 2021, 6:15 AM

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How to close these things?

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