#miemi 12-4 help

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stiff sierra
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post fleets

flat rock
rose ferry
stiff sierra
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ok yeah thats the main issue

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thats really frail

rose ferry
stiff sierra
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ok yeah

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make boss

fluid creek
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move roon to boss fleet

stiff sierra
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roon helena sandy

rose ferry
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i usually use yuudachi in mob and saint in boss

stiff sierra
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what dev is the roon?

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at lesat 25?

rose ferry
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also richy and monarch around

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25

stiff sierra
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ok

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yeha

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roon boss

rose ferry
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but only lvl105

stiff sierra
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swap sandy and laffey then

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and see what happens

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although you might need to drop roon entirely

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for more AA

rose ferry
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AA isnt a problem

stiff sierra
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well for mobs its not cause sandy is there

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but once you move sandy to boss

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it might become an issue

rose ferry
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doesnt planes only hit mainfleet?

fluid creek
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no

stiff sierra
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yes thats correct

rose ferry
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and one who dies is my vanguard

fluid creek
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wait

stiff sierra
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well yeah

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i said earlier

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your boss fleet seems too frail

rose ferry
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so do i move my roon there?

stiff sierra
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ideally you would have a lvl 110+ roon there

rose ferry
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even if low lvl?

stiff sierra
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i mean you can try NagaThonk

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yeah thats the issue

rose ferry
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or maybe stop pushing story and level roon to 120 and try again?

stiff sierra
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i think poi lvl 120+ is tankier

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so its probably laffey thats the issue

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so swapping sandy and laffey should be fine

rose ferry
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i also have ibuki 100lvl

flat rock
stiff sierra
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whats the gear on backline?

rose ferry
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but im grinding for ägir rn

stiff sierra
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cause nj ark centaur should be able to demolish

rose ferry
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so i wanted to use roon there

stiff sierra
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thats fine

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keep roon

rose ferry
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but yea gear

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boss fleet backline?

stiff sierra
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ye

rose ferry
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centaur. i just realised she has pretty bad gear and i could swap some things around

stiff sierra
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ok yeah

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thats the issue

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plz

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give

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centaur

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good gear

rose ferry
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monarch

stiff sierra
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yeah

fluid creek
stiff sierra
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i can see why you dying

serene scarab
stiff sierra
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check this site for gear

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and make gear changes

rose ferry
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i also have HE purple +10

fluid creek
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what even is that aux gun?

stiff sierra
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then come back

fluid creek
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French ?

rose ferry
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for BB

stiff sierra
fluid creek
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It looks nothing like it

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o well

stiff sierra
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its purple baguette but a diff year version

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or something

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iirc

rose ferry
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also i have some other ships i could use

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like

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should i use enty instead of centaur`?

stiff sierra
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enty instead of ark might be better

rose ferry
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or go centaur enty ark backline?

fluid creek
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I mean ur current selection of ships is strong, enty over ark tho

stiff sierra
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na if you wanna triple CV do it in mobs

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boss generally works better with 1 bb 2 cv

fluid creek
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I did 12-4 with a level 97 illustrious so idk why you're struggling.

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hmm

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apart from the gear

rose ferry
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also richy vs monarch?

fluid creek
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Monarch in boss is better

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prob

rose ferry
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for boss

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but yea i admit i need to rearrange my gear

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im too used to event and 11-1 farm where u can go with whatever

fluid creek
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Yeah this is not T4 / 11-1 it's one of later maps in the game on lethal.

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though with good preparation it can be a breeze

rose ferry
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okay so what would be your recommendations for boss fleet ships

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monarch cent and ark? or enty? for backline

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roon, helena, laffey front?

fluid creek
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Enty over ark imo

rose ferry
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enty is 120

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does that matter?

fluid creek
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yeah thats fine, Enty is strong

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Your enterprise was much higher levelled than mine was lol

rose ferry
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enty gear

fluid creek
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looks.. fine

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Im sure someone more experienced will know if Parallel torp bomber > ryuusei would be better there, but that looks sufficient

rose ferry
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centaur

fluid creek
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Is that a Type 0 MutsukiHyperStare

rose ferry
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yes

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seafang and type0

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i just threw some fighters i had

fluid creek
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Type 0 is awful... it has awful bombs

rose ferry
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i dont think i have any good fighters

fluid creek
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It's one of the worst planes out there

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If you have a F4u Corsair it would be a better substitute

rose ferry
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purple hellcat then?

fluid creek
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Purple hellcat has no bombs iirc

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do you have any of these?

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These would at least be a better transitional over the type 0

rose ferry
fluid creek
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Oh purple hellcat has 2x500 lb bombs it's okay I guess

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Yes

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Thats a good transitional plane

rose ferry
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so hellcat or corsair?

fluid creek
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Corsair

rose ferry
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okay

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got that just need to pump it up

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okay monarch next

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which one?

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usually ive been using purple because he

fluid creek
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Uh yea Mk6 is probably your best bet here, if you don't have champy gun / Izumo gun

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since 12-4 bosses are heavy

rose ferry
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i have these only

fluid creek
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yes, Mk6.

serene scarab
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They have medium armor

fluid creek
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oh. my mistake but wouldn't champy still be better

rose ferry
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what aux gun do i want?

fluid creek
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what do you have for aux bb gun

rose ferry
serene scarab
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the one Helene is using

rose ferry
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and AA?

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or is it whatever

serene scarab
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show your AA

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give Helena tbtsk

rose ferry
serene scarab
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enhance the purple quad and give it to Helena

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For Monarch I think just give her any low fr purple AA

rose ferry
fluid creek
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Ye

rose ferry
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i could craft these 2 AA also

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good for any1?

serene scarab
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I think don't need

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enhance the purple quad bofors to 10 give it to Yuudachi and give Helena the one Yuudachi is using

rose ferry
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monarch looks like this now

flat rock
rose ferry
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wanted low fr

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or wait

serene scarab
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remember to use circular defense

rose ferry
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or did u mean the opposite

serene scarab
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low fr aa for MonarchSad

rose ferry
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this good?

serene scarab
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I think it's like this but better range

rose ferry
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frontline then

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should i use that main gun on saint louis instead and pick something else for roon

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also i think i can craft something form gear lab

serene scarab
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your Roon is in mob right?

rose ferry
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roon boss

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or well that's what people told me to use

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because my boss vanguard is too squishy

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although my roon is only 105

serene scarab
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I think Yuukai - Helena - Sandy is ok for boss

rose ferry
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usually ive used saint louis there as a tank

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ah okay

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idk if im going to survive mobs now

serene scarab
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Just give Yuudachi 2 +10 toolboxes and she can tank it fine

rose ferry
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yuudachi carries my mob fleet

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we'll se

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yuudachi

serene scarab
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enhance aa and aux if you can

rose ferry
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all +10 now

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what do i use on helena

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no retro btw

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i could retro her now but i cant get new skill unlocked

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should i do that

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ive been saving prints for ägir

serene scarab
rose ferry
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ägir unlock

serene scarab
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Retro her until the gold bps requirement is ok I guess

rose ferry
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i have 5 prints and i need 8 for ägir

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and i need 7 for helena to fully retro her

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with skill

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and 5 for retro only

serene scarab
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leave out the gold bps nodes

rose ferry
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so far it's like this

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all that is left is gold prints

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total of 7

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i have 5

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need 8 for ägir

serene scarab
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just stop at that

rose ferry
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okay

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hydralic steering gear better on helena or roon?

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or some1 else?

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i only have one

serene scarab
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If you have this, it's like the steering

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check your craft tab

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or open some boxes (any purple boxes)

stiff sierra
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Yeah just do it until gold bps are needed PortDoll

rose ferry
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helena

stiff sierra
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Ok thats good

rose ferry
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last one for boss was sandy right?

stiff sierra
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ye

rose ferry
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btw should i 125 my enty?

stiff sierra
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no need

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save it for later :)

rose ferry
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sandy rn

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good enough or different aux?

fluid creek
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sandys fine i guess

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if you dont have much else

stiff sierra
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Use a naval camo

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As one of the auxes

rose ferry
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umm

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+10 those?

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camos

stiff sierra
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you can only +6

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But yeah +6 them

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+10 the toolboxes if you can, if not +8 is fine id say

rose ferry
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okay

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how about mob fleet now

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actually wait

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roon or yuudachi for boss

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roon is 105lvl

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yuudachi 123

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i think it was yuudachi right?

stiff sierra
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yuudachi ye

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Roon too low

rose ferry
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is this good order?

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vanguard

fluid creek
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whos the cutoff one

rose ferry
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saint louis 120?

fluid creek
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oh. nvm. its roon

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Image preview cut her off fsr guess its because i have the thread open on the side

stiff sierra
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Also

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For mobs

rose ferry
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actually

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roon or nimi?

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nimi is 110

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but dd

stiff sierra
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Ideally neither lol

rose ferry
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so it doesnt make her any tankier

stiff sierra
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What CLs do you have?

rose ferry
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sandy helena are both boss

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then next would be jeanne lvl90

stiff sierra
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Ye besides them

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ok

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So

rose ferry
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use her?

stiff sierra
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You probably need to replace richy

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With a CV

rose ferry
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even if low

stiff sierra
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Na use roon probably

rose ferry
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okay

stiff sierra
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Or actually what level is your ams or ingraham?

rose ferry
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huh?

stiff sierra
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ok lets cross them off then PortDoll

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yeah use nimi

rose ferry
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i dont have those

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if they are ships

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nimi over roon?

stiff sierra
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use nimi but you gotta run triple cv backline

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Ye

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What cvs do you have?

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You said enty right?

rose ferry
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yea

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but enty for boss?

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so i have ark left

stiff sierra
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move ark boss centaur mob

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And for mob flagship make it meta souryuu

rose ferry
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i dont know what to put on ark now

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ruyseis?

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2x ryusei like i used to have

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i gave them to enty and cent

stiff sierra
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yeah

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Enty you can run barracuda

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Cent too

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If you have a tbm avenger vt-18 from an event use it on enty instead

rose ferry
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no

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i dont

stiff sierra
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then cuda it is

rose ferry
stiff sierra
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i cant see cause bad data you gotta tell me the planes lol

rose ferry
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oh

stiff sierra
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Oh wait

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Nvm it loaded

rose ferry
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2x ryusei + helldiver

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ark

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ah

stiff sierra
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Yeah its fine

rose ferry
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both fine+

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?

stiff sierra
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Ye

rose ferry
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centaur i just need to upgrade that 2nd plane

stiff sierra
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yeah

rose ferry
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also is centaur worth 125?

stiff sierra
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Na

rose ferry
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i have like 1.5m exp on her

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okay

stiff sierra
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Save them imo

rose ferry
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so far ive only used on ark and yuudachi

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going to use it on ägir once i get her

stiff sierra
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You got NJ right?

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Use it on her

rose ferry
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no

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i dont have any banner UR

stiff sierra
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ah rip

rose ferry
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i started on last day of shima banner

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and didnt get her

stiff sierra
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Sadge

rose ferry
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souryuu

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then wtf do i put on unicorn

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does she deal any dmg or is she there just for heals?

serene scarab
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she deals some dmg yes

rose ferry
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but cant call her dps?

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damage dealer

serene scarab
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yeah cant

rose ferry
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gear looks good?

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just upgrade?

fluid creek
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yes

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oh wait is that a tmb avenger

rose ferry
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yes

serene scarab
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barracuda and low fr aa

rose ferry
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actually

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all my barracudas are in use

serene scarab
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do you have purple tenzan

rose ferry
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what do i do with avenger

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yes

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i got tenzan

fluid creek
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tenzan is fine for poverty

rose ferry
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also i actually have 1 purple barracuda too

serene scarab
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give it to SourM and barracuda to Uni

fluid creek
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I really dont get how you're so gear starved

rose ferry
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i try to farm gear from events

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but also i dont really know what gear is good and what isnt

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but this site u gave me should help me out a bit

serene scarab
fluid creek
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That Nerezza fella has a good gear guide

rose ferry
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oh yea i can craft some gear from lab

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all ive done from lab is 2x ryuseis

serene scarab
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also do you have protocore packs

rose ferry
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what are those?

serene scarab
rose ferry
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ah yea ive analyzed all of them

serene scarab
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have you bought anything?

fluid creek
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but u dont have a single seattle gun or anything

rose ferry
serene scarab
fluid creek
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that explains it

rose ferry
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have i done something wrong by analyzing them?

serene scarab
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buy pr2 and pr3 bps

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you do right

fluid creek
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No you did the correct thing

rose ferry
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good

serene scarab
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also which pr series you're doing?

rose ferry
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i thought i would buy rainbow gun once i get 3k

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4

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for ägir

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im exp grinding for mainz but once i get dev30 and lvl120 roon i can grind for ägir

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also i think by that time ive unlocked mainz too

fluid creek
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i dont think the rainbow gun is worth the protocores

rose ferry
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do u get rainbow guns from events?

serene scarab
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can you show me what you can craft from your depot?

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the gold ones

rose ferry
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oh

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that's easy

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that's all

serene scarab
rose ferry
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i usually craft whenever i get something new

serene scarab
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go buy pr2 gears bps and pr3 gears bps from the protocore shop

rose ferry
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how many each?

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or 50/50?

serene scarab
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you can only buy 20 each a month

rose ferry
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oh

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so 20 and 20

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i think

serene scarab
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yeah

rose ferry
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done

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now how do i use these

rose ferry
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i mean how od i open these

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like normal item?

serene scarab
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check how many bps of these you have from your craft section

rose ferry
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oh i can choose

serene scarab
rose ferry
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i got 7

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so i need 18

serene scarab
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which one?

rose ferry
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first one

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i have 7/25

serene scarab
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how about those bottom

rose ferry
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bb gun 4/25

serene scarab
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use 18 pr2 prints for the first one

rose ferry
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and AA 5/25

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also probably good to tell

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most of my time ive focused on pr1

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for like months

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and just recently i started doing pr4 focus

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never pr2 or pr3

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so that could explain

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so that cl gun first

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what about pr3?

serene scarab
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the bb gun is more important

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but you need 1 more PortDoll

rose ferry
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who do i give this cl gun?

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helena?

serene scarab
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yeah

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it's the best CL gun for vanguard

rose ferry
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do i spend my pr3 prints for that bb gun then?

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even if i cant craft it now

serene scarab
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I would save it

rose ferry
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okay

serene scarab
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maybe you cound try stay in pr3 for a few days to see if that 1 last print can drop PortDoll

rose ferry
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probably

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also i think i can get ägir's gun once i get her

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i think i was 16/25

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which is good

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oh yea

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should i craft anything from lab?

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i think im lacking cl/ca guns in generaö

serene scarab
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but they haven't update yet for the newest things added

rose ferry
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i think i watched a video about new gear and bb gun was good for bossing and one of cl guns was dogshit with bad modifiers

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and idk about sub torp

rose ferry
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should i get that first cl gun if i can

serene scarab
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sure

rose ferry
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i think i can get it

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done

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who do i give this?

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helena?

serene scarab
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the seattle gun is better

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give this new gun to other CL (not Sandy)

rose ferry
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i just realised im lacking cls

serene scarab
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but isn't it Monarch's 2nd gun

rose ferry
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yea

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i gave it back to her

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for now

serene scarab
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alright go try the map again

rose ferry
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no oil

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need to wait for tomorrow

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or well i could do couple mob fights

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i try that fight again tomorrow

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it's 6am and i need some sleep

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thanks for helping and sharing these sites. im definitely going to read more tomorrow when im less braindead.