#miemi 12-4 help
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boss.
mob
move roon to boss fleet
roon helena sandy
i usually use yuudachi in mob and saint in boss
but only lvl105

swap sandy and laffey then
and see what happens
although you might need to drop roon entirely
for more AA
AA isnt a problem
well for mobs its not cause sandy is there
but once you move sandy to boss
it might become an issue
doesnt planes only hit mainfleet?
no
yes thats correct
and one who dies is my vanguard
wait
so do i move my roon there?
ideally you would have a lvl 110+ roon there
even if low lvl?
or maybe stop pushing story and level roon to 120 and try again?
i think poi lvl 120+ is tankier
so its probably laffey thats the issue
so swapping sandy and laffey should be fine
i also have ibuki 100lvl
Damn, his boss fleet look stronger than me
whats the gear on backline?
but im grinding for ägir rn
cause nj ark centaur should be able to demolish
so i wanted to use roon there
ye
ark
centaur. i just realised she has pretty bad gear and i could swap some things around
monarch

i can see why you dying

i also have HE purple +10
what even is that aux gun?
French ?
for BB
purple baguette
also i have some other ships i could use
like
should i use enty instead of centaur`?
or go centaur enty ark backline?
I mean ur current selection of ships is strong, enty over ark tho
I did 12-4 with a level 97 illustrious so idk why you're struggling.
hmm
apart from the gear
also richy vs monarch?
for boss
but yea i admit i need to rearrange my gear
im too used to event and 11-1 farm where u can go with whatever
Yeah this is not T4 / 11-1 it's one of later maps in the game on lethal.
though with good preparation it can be a breeze
okay so what would be your recommendations for boss fleet ships
monarch cent and ark? or enty? for backline
roon, helena, laffey front?
Enty over ark imo
yeah thats fine, Enty is strong
Your enterprise was much higher levelled than mine was lol
enty gear
looks.. fine
Im sure someone more experienced will know if Parallel torp bomber > ryuusei would be better there, but that looks sufficient
centaur
Is that a Type 0 
Type 0 is awful... it has awful bombs
i dont think i have any good fighters
It's one of the worst planes out there
If you have a F4u Corsair it would be a better substitute
purple hellcat then?
Purple hellcat has no bombs iirc
do you have any of these?
These would at least be a better transitional over the type 0
this?
Oh purple hellcat has 2x500 lb bombs it's okay I guess
Yes
Thats a good transitional plane
so hellcat or corsair?
Corsair
okay
got that just need to pump it up
okay monarch next
which one?
usually ive been using purple because he
Uh yea Mk6 is probably your best bet here, if you don't have champy gun / Izumo gun
since 12-4 bosses are heavy
i have these only
yes, Mk6.
They have medium armor
oh. my mistake but wouldn't champy still be better
what aux gun do i want?
what do you have for aux bb gun
the one Helene is using
enhance the purple quad and give it to Helena
For Monarch I think just give her any low fr purple AA
this?
Ye
I think don't need
enhance the purple quad bofors to 10 give it to Yuudachi and give Helena the one Yuudachi is using
monarch looks like this now
What is on the 3rd slot? 
remember to use circular defense
or did u mean the opposite
low fr aa for 
this good?
I think it's like this but better range
frontline then
roon
should i use that main gun on saint louis instead and pick something else for roon
also i think i can craft something form gear lab
your Roon is in mob right?
roon boss
or well that's what people told me to use
because my boss vanguard is too squishy
although my roon is only 105
I think Yuukai - Helena - Sandy is ok for boss
usually ive used saint louis there as a tank
ah okay
idk if im going to survive mobs now
Just give Yuudachi 2 +10 toolboxes and she can tank it fine
enhance aa and aux if you can
all +10 now
what do i use on helena
no retro btw
i could retro her now but i cant get new skill unlocked
should i do that
ive been saving prints for ägir
ägir unlock
Retro her until the gold bps requirement is ok I guess
i have 5 prints and i need 8 for ägir
and i need 7 for helena to fully retro her
with skill
and 5 for retro only
do this 
leave out the gold bps nodes
so far it's like this
all that is left is gold prints
total of 7
i have 5
need 8 for ägir
just stop at that
okay
hydralic steering gear better on helena or roon?
or some1 else?
i only have one
If you have this, it's like the steering
check your craft tab
or open some boxes (any purple boxes)
No need for helena retro
Yeah just do it until gold bps are needed 
helena
Ok thats good
last one for boss was sandy right?
ye
btw should i 125 my enty?
you can only +6
But yeah +6 them
+10 the toolboxes if you can, if not +8 is fine id say
okay
how about mob fleet now
actually wait
roon or yuudachi for boss
roon is 105lvl
yuudachi 123
i think it was yuudachi right?
whos the cutoff one
saint louis 120?
oh. nvm. its roon
Image preview cut her off fsr guess its because i have the thread open on the side
Ideally neither lol
so it doesnt make her any tankier
What CLs do you have?
use her?
even if low
Na use roon probably
okay
Or actually what level is your ams or ingraham?
huh?
use nimi but you gotta run triple cv backline
Ye
What cvs do you have?
You said enty right?
i dont know what to put on ark now
ruyseis?
2x ryusei like i used to have
i gave them to enty and cent
yeah
Enty you can run barracuda
Cent too
If you have a tbm avenger vt-18 from an event use it on enty instead
i cant see cause bad data you gotta tell me the planes lol
oh
Yeah its fine
Ye
centaur i just need to upgrade that 2nd plane
yeah
also is centaur worth 125?
Na
Save them imo
Sadge
souryuu
then wtf do i put on unicorn
does she deal any dmg or is she there just for heals?
she deals some dmg yes
yeah cant
yes
barracuda and low fr aa
do you have purple tenzan
tenzan is fine for poverty
also i actually have 1 purple barracuda too
give it to SourM and barracuda to Uni
I really dont get how you're so gear starved
i try to farm gear from events
but also i dont really know what gear is good and what isnt
but this site u gave me should help me out a bit
give this a read too
https://imgur.com/a/TNpH1rL
That Nerezza fella has a good gear guide
also do you have protocore packs
what are those?
ah yea ive analyzed all of them
have you bought anything?
but u dont have a single seattle gun or anything

that explains it
have i done something wrong by analyzing them?
No you did the correct thing
good
also which pr series you're doing?
i thought i would buy rainbow gun once i get 3k
4
for ägir
im exp grinding for mainz but once i get dev30 and lvl120 roon i can grind for ägir
also i think by that time ive unlocked mainz too
i dont think the rainbow gun is worth the protocores
do u get rainbow guns from events?

i usually craft whenever i get something new
go buy pr2 gears bps and pr3 gears bps from the protocore shop
you can only buy 20 each a month
yeah
check how many bps of these you have from your craft section
oh i can choose
which one?
how about those bottom
bb gun 4/25
use 18 pr2 prints for the first one
and AA 5/25
also probably good to tell
most of my time ive focused on pr1
for like months
and just recently i started doing pr4 focus
never pr2 or pr3
so that could explain
so that cl gun first
what about pr3?
I would save it
okay
maybe you cound try stay in pr3 for a few days to see if that 1 last print can drop 
probably
also i think i can get ägir's gun once i get her
i think i was 16/25
which is good
oh yea
should i craft anything from lab?
i think im lacking cl/ca guns in generaö
check this
but they haven't update yet for the newest things added
but pin message #gameplay-help has some brief info for them
i think i watched a video about new gear and bb gun was good for bossing and one of cl guns was dogshit with bad modifiers
and idk about sub torp
check this
should i get that first cl gun if i can
sure
i just realised im lacking cls
but isn't it Monarch's 2nd gun
alright go try the map again


