#Claire Fleet Help
feral raven
Okay I've been playing for 2 months since like 2 days upon the shimmering blue ended just ignore levels I'll grind the ships up but curious if I just wait I'll post dock
pure slate
ok, i will just consider if ships can go to W13
so keep in mind need something like 120 to get through W13, ok ?
feral raven
Yea that's fine, what im mosty wondering is if I have ships that can do it at like 120 if need be
They're uploading
Aite order came out weird but there you go
I feel like the answer is gonna be don't bother but like I don't know lmao
pure slate
Chise is a gud option for mobs, since she have a preload and a gud amount of dmg,
Helena for boss fleets its like essential because of her debuff
Sandy its essential on W13 as well, cuz her huge amount of AA she helps alout Main fleet cuz she getdown alot of planes
lack a gud amount of AA ships to help u survive at W13, specially CVs beside Chise and Enty only Souryuu Hiryuu and Sar, lack some ships like Cheshire to tank and deal a gud amount of AA
Ilustrious and Unicorn can somehow help with it, but Illustious already lacks a bit of surface dmg and aswell Unicorn, that will put a pressure on ur VG and fights will take longer times
feral raven
Yea I always pick Helena, lusty + Unicorn + indep auto'd W12 but I guess the difficulty curve just goes crazy, I'm no where near Cheshire but Seattle is possible soon
pure slate
if i'm at ur situation i will try something like
Chise / Indepedence / Unicorn | Portland / Yuudachi / Rikka <-- Mob
i'm trying to figure out how to build a gud boss fleet 
feral raven
Richy Warspite Enty usually does wonders for backline
pure slate
Yea I always pick Helena, lusty + Unicorn + indep auto'd W12 but I guess the dif...
Helena is bosser
Unicorn is a Mobber
feral raven
Yea I know
I meant
Helena for boss
Unicorn + lusty for mobs
In w12
That's what I used anyway
pure slate
oh sorry, i miss understood, my bad
pure slate
for boss try u really lack Cheshire or other chonky tank at least
feral raven
Could Yume work?
pure slate
not sure, she is fresh new... i have my doubts on it (and i dont build for Collabs so i cant test it)
pure slate
yeah, u need better CVs as well, isnt like Lusty or Unicorn is a bad thing, we just have better ships that can provide more and be more usefull
same goes to tank
eugen is a wall, but she is really bad at DPS
what will make ur progress in W13 slower and probally way more difficult than with other proper tank
feral raven
Yea idk I think I'll just put it on the backburner for a while. There's a UR ship coming up and other stuff but thanks for your honest opinion anyways
feral raven
I have a 55 whole prints for Cheshire but Seattle I almost have enough to complete I assume tank + Seattle wouldn't work ?
You seem to put a lot of empathsis on Cheshire
pure slate
Seattle is way more DPS than tanker, she can deal a gud amount of DPS if she use 2 Guns, her 2 AA setups isnt like bad, but some ships like Isuzu or Sandy still better than her, but her DPS is WAY more than Isuzu and bit better than Sandy
feral raven
Well
I was thinking like
Sandy on one fleet
Seattle on the other
But I assume that isnt
Enough
For AA
pure slate
nope, she isnt tanker, u main issue is a Tanker, neither Seattle or Sandy can be tanker (not for hardcontents like W13/W14 or OpSi Stronghold/Abyss
thats why i'm talking about Cheshire, she is a tanker and have gud AA for a tanker, and still have a surface DMG
so she is like a perfect combo for W13
pure slate
thats is on ur Mob
pure slate
Bad AA and her tank capabilities isnt better than Portland
pure slate
btw, work on get 3 Sexy Bofors
that will help like ALOT
or go for Roomba setup
both can work pretty well
feral raven
I have 1 sexy bofor and like
pure slate
"Sexy Bofors"
she is found on PR3
feral raven
2 roomba
Yea I focus pr3
I've been following Nerzezzas guide since I started playing mostly
pure slate
roomba stups its focused on everyone get a roomba cuz they range is huge and even if they are at map borders they still have a great area to shoot planes down
everyone on VG ... Mains arent included
feral raven
I thought too many roomba was bad tho
Cause it has high reload
AA is some dark magic
pure slate
Sexys setups its the dumbiest setup focused on AA, cuz Sexy its a fast and have a huge DPS so she works pretty well on everything
pure slate
Cause it has high reload
isnt tottaly wrong, Roomba setups are used mainly for CN players i dont follow much they guides, but i know they use that kind of setup
i can dig deeper to teach u how exactly works
feral raven
My understanding is that AA range gets averaged across fleet
As shown by that white circle
pure slate
the circle is biggur cuz roomba have 35 range AA,
sexy have 28 iirc
and QB have 30 iirc
but roomba have a big RAW DPS what its gud when u have enough AA to bring down planes, but its bad once they arent enough to get them down, cuz u need 2 waves of fire but roombas cant get a 2nd wave cuz planes will be already out of range when that happens
