casey w14 help

[bright kiln]

ight so theres a lot to digest

so plz give a bit of time lol

[native sky]

first off, you need firepower

no dev30 fdg hurts a lot and no NJ is a double whammy

[woven whale]

indeed

you'll find I'm missing about 1.5 years of op meta ships

so good luck

[bright kiln]

no perseus?

or ryuuhou?

or aquila?

[woven whale]

ryuuhou is there

aquila is not

[frosty vine]

I saw ryuuhou sam

[bright kiln]

thats rough

[woven whale]

don't worry, I will hold all helpers personally accountable for any failures going forward

[frosty vine]

What dev is that fdg 29?

[woven whale]

[bright kiln]

fdg is 28

[orchid river]

damn casey

[bright kiln]

with 3 prints extra

[frosty vine]

Hmm

[bright kiln]

if you could get fdg to dev 30

would really really help a lot

like you don't understand lmao

[woven whale]

but alas, it is not so

[native sky]

if you have yuudachi, get her to 120 or even 125

[bright kiln]

yeah

[woven whale]

I can force feed her xp packs if I need to

[native sky]

yuudachi is amazing overall

[bright kiln]

well

if you can't retrofit yuudachi

don't bother

cause without retrofit yuudachi is bad

[woven whale]

I can, I have tons of resources

[bright kiln]

well

you need the event specific item for yuudachi

cause as a gold ship, she needs it

[woven whale]

we just had it tho and I was there for that

[bright kiln]

pog

then yeah get her up

[woven whale]

but mainly

[bright kiln]

you got shima kita yuudachi

[orchid river]

yea pretty sure you can back before that

[bright kiln]

so thats a nice start

noshi helps as well

[woven whale]

I never used her and I don't much care for her so that's why I haven't

[native sky]

the only thing you need is BB imo

monarch isn't good enough

[bright kiln]

richy ryuuhou unicorn yukikaze jda yuudachi should be "fine" mobbing

could also use kita over jda

[orchid river]

lets toss out gascan for richy

[woven whale]

can you make a fleet that doesn't require me leveling ships first

[bright kiln]

ah right

that could work

[woven whale]

and I'll work on getting the others up in the mean time

[bright kiln]

this is w14 but ill try

if you can't use yuudachi use kita

or noshi

[woven whale]

yeah I mean, it is what it is for now

[bright kiln]

kita probably is best

sorry that its leveling, but like

kita helps out a lot

[native sky]

the one im still thinking is the backline firepower tbh

no perseus, aquila?

[bright kiln]

he doesn't have them

[frosty vine]

I think richie/ryuuhou/indep or saratoga + Neptune/kitakaze/shimakaze

[bright kiln]

[frosty vine]

For mob

[bright kiln]

save shima for boss

what the hell are you doing

also

[frosty vine]

Oh ye

[bright kiln]

with no aquila or percy

you most likely need ykk in mob

to mitigate the backline damage

[native sky]

man

no NJ, aquila,percy

that's tragic

not even shinano

[woven whale]

challenge mode

your shoe ins have no power here

[orchid river]

casey dropped the game a long time ago and just came back

[frosty vine]

Then something like neptune/kitakaze/yukikaze?

[bright kiln]

well mob fleet should be richy ryuuhou unicorn yukikaze kitakaze jda

[woven whale]

Rajaku knows me?

[bright kiln]

can't really get much better than that w/ what hes got

[native sky]

oh i see

[orchid river]

im in your guild

[woven whale]

oh poggers, I knew that

[native sky]

LOL

[woven whale]

I was testing you

[orchid river]

our guild

and i was here before you got banned

long time ago

[woven whale]

I was never banned, wdym lol

[orchid river]

wait who was it then

[frosty vine]

His jda is low lvl

[native sky]

OUR russian anthem plays in the background

[frosty vine]

Its like lvl 70

[native sky]

yeah lvl 74

74 jda

[bright kiln]

thats true

[frosty vine]

Id swap jda for neptune

[bright kiln]

or tashkent

[native sky]

chikuma is a nice tank tho

but idk if its agir/azuma level of tankiness

[woven whale]

btw Neptune is a hard no, never using the clam shell dumbo

[bright kiln]

then tashkent or noshi

[native sky]

mob wise you're kinda fine... richy/unicorn and ryuuhou maybe works

[bright kiln]

noshi probably better in boss though tbh

so use tashkent

[frosty vine]

Isnt tashkent bad for w14? Since mostly all the dangerous enemies are heavy/med armor

[orchid river]

nah she's still poggers

[bright kiln]

tash is good for the prods cause prods are mainly light

and slows them down too

[native sky]

oh btw use twin 130 on richelieu.. it helps a lot vs suicide boats

[frosty vine]

Plus id imagine yuki/kita/tashkent will die easily

[native sky]

yeah

[orchid river]

oh wait that was colesey

[bright kiln]

well gotta consider unicorn and ryuuhou are both there

should be fine

barely

[native sky]

i would say get jda to 120 then yuki/kita/jda maybe works

[frosty vine]

True

[bright kiln]

thats why jda would help

the main issue is boss

specifically boss backline

cause boss vanguard is easy

just azuma shima noshi

[woven whale]

azuma isn't 30 unless that doesn't matter

[native sky]

chikuma shima noshi is also nice

[bright kiln]

azuma dev 25 is enough

[frosty vine]

What about monarch/fdg/enty?

[bright kiln]

fdg aint dev 30 chief

[orchid river]

nah monarch isn't that great

[native sky]

monarch is shit on w14

[bright kiln]

if fdg was dev 30

wouldn't really have this issue

lmao

[native sky]

my NJ did like... 6 times the damage

nj off flag and monarch flagship btw

[orchid river]

her barrage doesn't go far enough

[bright kiln]

the 2 side slots are probably best w/ enty + ark

boss flag though

[frosty vine]

Georgia?

[bright kiln]

think the bosses move around too much for her

[native sky]

georgia isn't... the best i would say

[orchid river]

repeating what memena said, have you done the fdg catchup yet casey

nevermind then

[native sky]

memena?

[orchid river]

nothing

[native sky]

[frosty vine]

Well i used Georgia and monarch when i cleared w14 i didn't have much of an issue

[native sky]

how many tries

[frosty vine]

Actually many times nvm

[native sky]

welp was gonna say. life is already hard... don't make it harder because of a game

for my clear i did with NJ, amagi, Shinano

SF, Helena, Shimakaze

if you want to be even more careful. slappin rudder on flagship could work

[frosty vine]

Yes putting rudder on your flag it helps

[bright kiln]

no like

you need rudder on flagship

lol

[native sky]

you can go yolo sam

but.....

welp

[frosty vine]

Yes i just said flag

[bright kiln]

you can take 6 commons to w14

[woven whale]

so I feel like we're puttering out without a real decision yet

We're kind of agreeing mob is Richie / Ryuuhou / Uni main aaaand that's it so far?

[bright kiln]

you will die, but you can take them

[orchid river]

for just 14-4

[bright kiln]

no like it helps everywhere

not just 14-4

[orchid river]

don't need it on flag anywhere else okaychamp

[bright kiln]

helps with consistency in my experience

[orchid river]

it was always shinano getting fucked

[bright kiln]

mob vanguard has yukikaze somewhere as well thats mandatory

you also wanna use kitakaze cause she kills BB productions

[frosty vine]

14-2 rudder flag helped me

[woven whale]

what main gun choice we want for richy?

[bright kiln]

and you wanna use tashkent for other dps

[orchid river]

triple 406mk6

[bright kiln]

triple 406mk6

[woven whale]

okay

[bright kiln]

on ryuuhou you want pirate barracuda beacon

[woven whale]

beacon

[orchid river]

[bright kiln]

yes

beacon

reason being you really wanna speed meme w14 as much as you can

[frosty vine]

You might wanna go manual for w14 as well

[bright kiln]

cause in the difference between a normal loadout and a semi speed meme loadout

you could get shot by enemy

unlike in previous stages where this was not really a concern since enemies don't do shit to your backline

[woven whale]

and it could also spell you being shot when you kill them by a small amount

it's always been 6 in one half a dozen in the other

but we'll try it

[native sky]

actually nvm, i'll switch pola to doggo

[woven whale]

[native sky]

if you want me to match with your docks

[woven whale]

confused

[native sky]

that's my fleet for w14 overall, if you want an example using the ships you have. give me a minute. maybe it could help

[woven whale]

I guess if you're talking vanguard

but the backliners is a meme

[native sky]

well im trying what i can

[woven whale]

and my Agir is dev 8

[orchid river]

azuma then

[native sky]

swap that agir with chikuma or azuma

it works

[woven whale]

who's our third on mob?

it was yuki / tash / who

[frosty vine]

Kitakaze

[woven whale]

who's front tank? yuki?

[native sky]

tank yuki mid kita tash on the off tank spot

[frosty vine]

Yeah

[woven whale]

twin 114 or single 138 on kita?

[orchid river]

114

[woven whale]

ok, and what are we choosing for boss?

[native sky]

Nvm that's the mob

[frosty vine]

You could try enty/ark royal with monarch or Georgia in flag

[woven whale]

JDA and Poi aren't leveled

I thought we were going with kita / yuki / tash

[frosty vine]

Yeah go with that

[native sky]

yuki kita tash is another choice

noshiro is also doable as a tank

[woven whale]

you want Amagi / Monarch / Essex for boss?

or is that Enty's new skin?

[frosty vine]

Enty

Id imagine essex would be bad in w14

[woven whale]

406 Monarch?

or do we want twin SKC whatever

[native sky]

yes the race queen skin

[frosty vine]

The twin one yeah

[native sky]

406 mle would be better

[frosty vine]

Wait how so

[native sky]

isn't monarch doing better with AP gun?

[woven whale]

so monarch?

[native sky]

plus the armor is medium for w14

[woven whale]

amagi? or do we take the AP rainbow for amagi

[native sky]

14-1/2 is light. 14-3 is heavy 14-4 is medium

iirc

[frosty vine]

14-3 is light

14-1/2 is heavy one

14-4 is med yeah

[native sky]

so 14-1 and 2 prefers AP

14-3 prefers HE and 14-4 can go bothways

[woven whale]

azoomer?

[frosty vine]

Amagi should take the triple mle

[woven whale]

idk what triple mle we're talking about

[frosty vine]

Yeah i just thought that maybe having a barrage gun on monarch would be better

[native sky]

406/50 MLE

pr3 research weapon

[frosty vine]

And give monarch the Georgia gun

[native sky]

georgia gun is rainbow 457 gun btw

[frosty vine]

Yeah

[woven whale]

🙂

[native sky]

oof

5 more

[frosty vine]

Oof you cant buy anymore prints in proto?

[native sky]

protocore shop

[frosty vine]

Ye

[woven whale]

for a gold weapon? nah that ain't it

does azuma gear look fine?

[frosty vine]

Yes

[native sky]

tbh i would prefer putting that gun on others like kitakaze

the twin 114

[woven whale]

kita has one on

[native sky]

ah okay then

[woven whale]

alright fam these are you choices

tune in next time to see if you were right

[frosty vine]

Looks good

You can also swap amagi with ark royal if you feel like she aint working too well

[woven whale]

well ark ain't 120

[frosty vine]

Ah ok then thats fine

You might have to manual in 14-3 and 14-4 if you reached those stages

[woven whale]

well of course I will right?

because you all chose what will clear w14

[orchid river]

wtf

[native sky]

[woven whale]

Res'ing this thread for results if anyone cared

Mob team worked alright but had issues with sustained fights and some bad dodges on auto. Had to manual towards the end to ensure units didn't wipe before the last fight.

Boss fleet couldn't handle it.

Amagi contributes more than I thought with her barrage since there's so much production to clear even during the boss herself

Monarch's barrage can sometimes miss depending on where enemies are

Azuma is paper thin. She gets shredded before the boss even spawns

Shimakaze does well with preloads to clear the first of enemies in the boss fight but there isn't enough power after that to clear the 2nd wave since Enty doesn't launch fast enough and they take massive damage

played around with comps and this mob fleet actually auto'd all of w14 with manual sub call ins

I don't think I can make a comp that can reliably auto the boss, but this is the best one I've found so far to clear it. I wish I had another 125 Noshi to put here, but Chikuma does well enough

[bright kiln]

yeah amagi is pog

thats a given

most of the w14 safe farming comps involve amagi

[woven whale]

4 x 3 ⭐ recon
2 x 2 ⭐ recon
1 x 1 ⭐ treasure

these were the enemies that were auto'd by that fleet

[bright kiln]

its just on lethal amagi has less damage compared to other options so better to roll the dice on high rolls than risking dying cause amagi rng

and yeah

you wanna avoid the BB nodes

also have you tried both vh and not vh azuma?

[woven whale]

yeah I figure you either cater your fleet to recon or main

[bright kiln]

cause apparently enemies have both reverse mod and normal mod torps on 14-3 and 14-4 boss

[woven whale]

because if you're bringing sub aux, you don't wanna get burned

[bright kiln]

easiest are the DD nodes cause you can just stack asw planes

i ran hedgehog + 2 asw planes and subs were a non factor

its only the ramming and the bb shots

[woven whale]

I didn't try the grilled cheese, I was using double evasion

but I don't think it would matter, she gets shredded, I'm not joking

[bright kiln]

also about shima on w14 boss, you aren't the only person to say that from what ive heard

same with monarch

[woven whale]

yeah she's my first natural UR unit and it's ridiculous

she does clear basically the entire thing

and I think the foxes are doing well for me because they fire early enough to clear that 2nd wave

and also Nagato barrage goes infinitely forward which makes clearing backline stuff easier

so just reset for procs I guess

but at least it's fun to know even an account missing 1.5 years of content can auto 14-4 mobs

now you can recommend those units going forward

[bright kiln]

you remember riceist

?

he has a txt w/ w14 comps

might wanna tell him

[woven whale]

txt?

oh

like doc

[bright kiln]

yeah

a .txt

[woven whale]

yeah literally .txt

oh and sub comp, nobody mentioned subs when I asked

[bright kiln]

apparently the uss subs are slightly better in w14 but nobody cares enough to test subs kek

[woven whale]

yeah well now it's more viable with xp packs

back then it was cancer to 120 subs

so I wasn't about to change

[bright kiln]

also

thats the old sub comp