#sam is real slow wowwie. Help this mans in 14

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gusty bough
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lemme see dat fleet

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sounds like your mob's having the issues but boss is worth looking at too

quaint ruin
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Mob, which is fine.

gusty bough
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right so this is not on the right track really

hearty venture
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nagato isn't really that great there

gusty bough
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you haven't hit 14-3 yet so i get it but DDs are gonna become really important

quaint ruin
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I've heard about the subs there

gusty bough
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is your vanguard dying?

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or is it the backline

quaint ruin
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Backline

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With Van dying trying to help them with suicides

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Cause I'm ramming them

gusty bough
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mmm. Leipzig and Mog i think are both not great here and i think Aquila or Ryuuhou over Saratoga is also worthwhile

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would also consider FDG or Littorio over POW

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or Richelieu

quaint ruin
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Mmm. Ok.

gusty bough
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could consider Yukikaze to help with backline sustain while also granting some good ASW support

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her torps also don't feel as limp here since there's usually a lot of enemies for them to hit

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Yuudachi's been an all-star too if you have her

quaint ruin
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How would Laff or Kawa do instead?
I need to level Yuu up and retro her first.

gusty bough
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can't speak to either practically

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Laffey might work? but i seem to recall people being disappointed w/ her tho that's hearsay

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can't imagine she'd be worse than Leipzig tho

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so far as Nagato you're gonna want to either completely rebuild w/ IJN carriers or jam NJ like everyone else lol

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Cleve and Port also feel like too low a ceiling for 14 boss

quaint ruin
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I've been fine with my Mob (for now most likely), boss is the main issue I have.

gusty bough
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oh i took "-2, can't even get to damn boss 80% of the time." wrong then i guess

quaint ruin
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Yea for sure tho Litty's goin' in

gusty bough
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so your boss backline is sinking before boss appears?

quaint ruin
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Ahhh you good.
I get into boss fight and just the first wave in it is tearing me apart.

gusty bough
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are you using subs?

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but also, Nagato Portland and Cleveland are all just too weak here imo

quaint ruin
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I do, yup

gusty bough
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tho it's a bit surprising to hear you don't even see the boss

quaint ruin
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Ikr
Suicide is obliterating flag

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I'm talkin' practically full HP, then near none.

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From 2 suicides

gusty bough
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i'm gonna revisit 14-2 to refresh my memory

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sounds off to me

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will try Nagato w/ cranes

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so gimme a bit

quaint ruin
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All good.

gusty bough
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iirc i used Azuma and Shimakaze in place of Port and Cleve on my run through it

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and didn't have much trouble at all

quaint ruin
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Also unfortunately I don't have Ryuuor Aquila to level.
No Azuma, no leveled Shima lol

gusty bough
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i'll drop the power level a bit in my demo then

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but ships like that are basically exactly what you need

quaint ruin
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Wonder what would happen if I switch my Van on Mob for Boss...
'Cause it seems I need torps on boss node.

gusty bough
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send vanguard dock? can see what else you could look into

quaint ruin
gusty bough
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San Fran and Seattle are good upgrades for your boss

quaint ruin
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Ok
I plan on maybe switching Mogami for Algér

gusty bough
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Mog's better

quaint ruin
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Ah ok

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Should I change my Boss backline at all?

gusty bough
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also think a single target specialized carrier like Ark or Shinano would work better than Essex here

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Ticonderoga's another option

quaint ruin
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I was thinking Tico, yea.
Ess has those Swordfish to help Enty's torps, so I had her there.
I'm not sure if I should keep Naga too....

gusty bough
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nagato looks extremely out of place

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unless she has IJN carriers next to her there's not really a point

quaint ruin
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Fair enough.
Who should replace her? I can send backline dock if needed

gusty bough
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the usual suspects: New Jersey, FdG, Monarch, maybe DOY works, and so on

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BBs that are independently good instead of needing a specific comp to succeed with

quaint ruin
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Huh.
I happen to have none of the 4 ya listed, goodness.

gusty bough
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that's rough

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also, ran up to 14-2 boss w/ the wrong boss fleet sortied so round 2

quaint ruin
gusty bough
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i see New Jersey tho?

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just level her lol

quaint ruin
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Omfg XD I forgot

gusty bough
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spite might help on 14-3 but i found that boss to be incredibly easy

quaint ruin
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Who's boss on -3?

gusty bough
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two DD

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i forget which

quaint ruin
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Mm, that does sound easy

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Seattle over Cleve, right not Helena?

gusty bough
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San Fran/Helena/Seattle

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you'll still live or die by Helena probably lmao

quaint ruin
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Radar Scan is a blessing

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Alright, ig I'll go with some of these changes once they're all up to level or find something that worksike I did with W13 lol.
Ty my man

gusty bough
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should do a bit better at least

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NJ is the largest difference

quaint ruin
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Right? Lol That's what I'm hoping for.

gusty bough
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meanwhile

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your subs might not be too great 'cause uh

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this is fine lol

quaint ruin
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Lol
I'm just surprised Naga isn't obliterated.

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Changed Naga for PoW (with AP) and Seattle, did better but boss still sat me down.

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