#Natou help
heady grove
sure post what you're trying to do
I can't help for too long so hope that someone else can join in
uncut marlin
I want the best team for my units that I have rn.. but idk if it's meta
heady grove
sure; post your dock!
celest spruce
share it
heady grove
Thanks Rajaku! I guess I can borrow friends data for a little, so I should still be able to help
heady grove
Already see some good choices already
heady grove
haha
uncut marlin
like I want Jean d'Arc .. but idk if she's gonna be good for my team
barren thistle
portland, laffey, unicorn, shouhou, richelieu, london all decent iirc
heady grove
Rn I'd say to use Portland, Unicorn, Richelieu, London, hmm..
if you can buy someone like Phoenix or Helena from guild shop try to do that
celest spruce
algerie is also worth using
heady grove
then if you have Ranger that'd be my last idea.
barren thistle
jda is good you should get her if you can
if not for now, then for later on definitely
heady grove
Ye, JDA I recommend over Algerie because she useful later on
uncut marlin
and the twins of 3-4 ?
celest spruce
just use both of them lol
uncut marlin
JDA ?
celest spruce
jeanne d'arc
barren thistle
waifu only, theyre decent when paired but not worth farming for unless you want them
celest spruce
she's in the event ship
heady grove
Jeanne d'Arc; she's 8k points in the event shop
celest spruce
i wouldn't call them waifu only
heady grove
She's a very, very good support ship that keeps your vanguard alive, a lot of people use her.
barren thistle
algerie is ok if you like her but there are better options. not really an issue until late game tho
heady grove
Akaga is hella good still, but I wouldn't recommend farming because it hurts progression
celest spruce
she's a good ship
i enjoyed using algerie
and it's nice that he already has her leveled
uncut marlin
^-^
heady grove
Algerie is okay yeah, she could be used instead of something like Helena/Portland
barren thistle
akaga is just kinda awkward due to the pairing requirement. in theory theyre great but imo they limit compbuilding too much for what they bring
heady grove
They're very good imo
barren thistle
a quick airstrike though makes them very good for quick mob fights if that's what you want
celest spruce
best IJN pair for speed
heady grove
especially for story missions and mobs, but like I said; 1/134 chance to get them, and it really hurts your progression
celest spruce
perfectly usable for bossing as well
uncut marlin
ok I'll try Algerie and Helena/Portland ?
barren thistle
you can level second fleet on 3-4 if you havent reached 9-1 yet, you get toolboxes so it's not a total waste.
but don't hardcore it
barren thistle
you can use some oil a day on it if you want just dont do it at the expense of everything else
celest spruce
around w6 is where you should start making a 2nd fleet
uncut marlin
3 units for fleet 1 ?
celest spruce
we want 6
heady grove
do 3 vanguards and 3 main for fleet one
you want to level up as many ships as you can for your first fleet, since you'll be using them a lot
celest spruce
so Richy Uni Shouhou Algerie Helena/Laffey Portland for now
heady grove
I didn't stop using my 6 starters until like; chapter 10/11
uncut marlin
where is Helena ?
heady grove
was before oil cap so yea
celest spruce
you don't have her
celest spruce
but you can get her in the guild shop ELITE ships
heady grove
Guild shop, rn you'd be fine just sticking with Algerie/Port/London or something, you don't have ot buy her
celest spruce
laffey exists
uncut marlin
heady grove
oh yea
uncut marlin
like this ?
heady grove
you can use Laffey too
celest spruce
yea although you can use port over avrora
uncut marlin
or this ?
celest spruce
switch uni and richy spots
heady grove
That's not bad honestly. IF you wanna use Avrora its ok, but if you want the best, I'd say focus on leveling Port and replace Avrora with her.
barren thistle
rich should be in flagship ideally
heady grove
Flagship is yellow one
celest spruce
if you like avrora it's fine
heady grove
where Unicorn at
celest spruce
no objections to ships they like
barren thistle
though you can also dump whichever backline ship needs exp the most on flagship when exp grinding
uncut marlin
heady grove
yeah early on Richy doesn't exactly need flag, but she would prefer it.
uncut marlin
my little porty lvl 1 XD
celest spruce
she's mainly worth bringing along for the misson and if you need a tank
barren thistle
put her in the center if youre gonna take her in at lvl 1 lol
center vanguard is safest
heady grove
yea, laffey only wanted to be in middle of your last fleet because she has worst survivability out of the three you were using
uncut marlin
should I marry Leafley ?
celest spruce
up to you
uncut marlin
hmmm i'll wait then XD
heady grove
I recommend to marry ships you want to use, but if you like her a lot; go ahead.
uncut marlin
well you are the masters XD
celest spruce
oathing is who you like
barren thistle
marry your favorite ship imo, unless you plan to spend $$. since free promise ring is very rare
heady grove
I don't want to tell you how to play the game haha
agile wasp
Laffey is worth the oath
celest spruce
cring
uncut marlin
😛 haha
barren thistle
oathing just for 6% stat on meta ship is a terrible waste unless you buy oath rings often imo
uncut marlin
alright 🙂
celest spruce
whoever you want
barren thistle
this is a waifu game after all
heady grove
Yea you'll decide sometime if you'd rather marry for stats on ships you use, or just marry ships you really like. Both are valid choices
barren thistle
yeah
uncut marlin
well I'll try to work with what you told me 🙂 can I keep this conversation ?
barren thistle
also consider if the ship has an oath skin and/or post-oath lines, that can also be an influencing factor in your choice
heady grove
it archives so you can find it again
celest spruce
avoid spending oaths for stats unless you are a whale
barren thistle
you can check wiki to see which ships have those
heady grove
but threads get created quite a bit
so it may end up getting buried, but you should be able to find it
celest spruce
you'll have access to this
heady grove
That's what we're here for
uncut marlin
alright well.. I have no other questions 🙂
celest spruce
feel free to come back when you do
uncut marlin
I will = P
heady grove
take care and good luck, last thing I will say is make sure to gear your ships okay. That guide should help some on it. Otherwise. see ya
uncut marlin
see ya
celest spruce
heady grove
barren thistle
gray plover
Good ship
source: YourWaifuIsShip
here's the relevant link btw https://github.com/YourWaifuIsShip/Azur-Lane-Guides/blob/master/AL Tierless Guide.md
uncut marlin
o_o she's good
heady grove
Yuki is pretty good she doesn't have the best damage but she's a great tank. A little RNG but she's a tank
uncut marlin
is she better than Helena ?
heady grove
Different roles
gray plover
role-wise, Yukikaze is better for mobbing
Helena for boss fleets, she buffs everyone in the fleet
heady grove
Helena is good as a boss support ship. One of her skills allows everyone to do more damage
Her retrofit doesn't do much to make her better so it's not a priority. She's good without it.
uncut marlin
is it true that Helena can be drop at 5-1
heady grove
Yes
uncut marlin
what can I replace Shouhou by
heady grove
If you wanna use Shouhou that's fine. Uni is her only real replacement that you have
uncut marlin
so if I have Uni and Shouhou that's too much ?
heady grove
Kinda yeah. They both do the same thing just Shouhou does more damage
And needs retrofit
gray plover
Unicorn for AA, she has fighters
Shouhou for damage, she has DB
Heal-wise they have the same skills
heady grove
Uni and Shouhou are healers mainly and other alternatives are hard to get
Ryuuhou the only one you can get rn I think but I don't recommend trying to get her
Perseus event should be coming again relatively soon
gray plover
Uni and Shouhou are healers mainly and other alternatives are hard to get
said alternatives are extremely effective in their roles, but they're event limited, and you can save up cubes for them
heady grove
Yes
gray plover
so, on to BB
Richielieu is good. Like, preload good
heady grove
He she amazing
uncut marlin
I'll save up for the next best thing.. so it's Perseus or Ryuuhou ?
uncut marlin
so, on to BB
Richielieu is good. Like, preload good
that's good : D
heady grove
I meant ye not he
gray plover
I'll save up for the next best thing.. so it's Perseus or Ryuuhou ?
whichever comes first
and I think Ryuuhou rerun just passed by earlier this year. definitely Perseus
uncut marlin
it's a light air carrier ?
heady grove
Yeah Percy is light carrier
Not all of those are healers
Iirc Ranger is a light carrier
barren thistle
ah rnger the queen of rng big pp dmg if stars align
uncut marlin
XD
barren thistle
i kinda like her shes grown on me. cheap and useful in some places especially if you get lucky
in theory she has infinite damage if you keep getting lucky on her skill procs lol
heady grove
My friend recorded himself using her, wondered why his phone ran out of space, then realized he accidentally recorded for 2 hours
uncut marlin
ranger ? 😛
heady grove
Yea XD
uncut marlin
where do you get her
heady grove
She's easy to get
barren thistle
shes a common, anywhere from ch3 or up i think
heady grove
She's a common
uncut marlin
😮
heady grove
Yeah she's a great starter
barren thistle
one of the few decent commons, to boot. not w14 material ofc but shes useful in a lot of content when retrofitted
a mainstay of cheap event fleet
uncut marlin
so Ch 3
heady grove
She's useful in w14 like. . 00000001% if the time 
uncut marlin
XD hahha
gray plover
hey Natou, how far are you in World level are you right now? and how much cubes you have? maybe we can do some rolls
barren thistle
also she's just fun. i had her proc her quick takeoff twice + assault carrier once in a single airstrike and it was hilarious
gray plover
and advice
barren thistle
ah my skills on rnger are both lvl4
kinda low priority to me since shes just for event atm and low proc chance 
i levelled her from 70 to 102 just from event though...kinda funny
uncut marlin
you make me wanna do it XD
gray plover
back to topic... this can surely help @uncut marlin https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide
uncut marlin
ik.. but you guys are more fun to speak with ; D
barren thistle
also i think since they got richie already, probably better to only do daily pulls, UR is coming in a couple months
also a collab in between which would be important if they want any of those boats since it's 1 time only
gray plover
SSSS Dynazenon if I remember correctly
uncut marlin
which Collab ?
barren thistle
ssss gridman
gray plover
future collab
barren thistle
well apart from being a greedy merchant
and refusing to give me the pearl shell skin
uncut marlin
hahaha 😛
heady grove
She has pretty strong torpedoes but there's better options you can get
barren thistle
wis guide gives me more hope for some ships than ectl ill take all the copium i can get
celest spruce
barren thistle
idk their opinions differ a fair amount which, if nothing else, is interesting to check out imo
wis is more lenient on a fair number of ships but also hates META faction ships lol
celest spruce
the creation of ectl was because of wis being a not really good tierlist
barren thistle
well it wasnt meant to be a tierlist iirc
just lists all ships that provide something of value and describe their roles
celest spruce
it was a tierlist
barren thistle
regardless of accuracy i have to admit i much prefer that style
celest spruce
wis changed it recently
celest spruce
it's definitely a lot better now that it's not a tierlist type list
heady grove
I didn't want to share tier list to this person because was afraid it'd overwhelm them
barren thistle
i see ectl doing similar with adding ship descriptions which is gud too
i dislike number tiers tho
celest spruce
I didn't want to share tier list to this person because was afraid it'd overwhel...
you did the right thing
heady grove
Yeah
Trying to be as helpful as possible
Tier list better for people who are in position to level ships easier
uncut marlin
thank you guys 🙂
heady grove
Yw!!! If you ever need help with anything just ask!
heady grove
She's a starter side grade so sure if you lack better options