#Sed help
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post dock
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post dock pics
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Cheshire dev level?
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Sandy Mob and Cheshire Boss. That should make things very easy
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Everything below those in my dock is too low level to consider atm 😦
(That I've linked)
Dev levels
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you're way overprepared for chapter 13 haha gimme a sec
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what gears do you have?
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three washing machines in w13 
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THanks guys!
nj shinano ark ches helena san fran
enty centaur percy roon mainz sandy
should be enough
although might need to swap ark and centaur, test and find out
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Ark isn't Retro is that fine?
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thats fine
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nah it only adds a bit but unretro'd ark is good
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Mob: Richelieu/Perseus/Centaur or Shinano
San Diego/Mainz/Portland?
Boss: New Jersey/Enterprise/Centaur or Shinano
San Francisco/Helena/Cheshire
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save them coins for future events / other ships
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That's what I can think of. Ark Royal would be another great boss choice.
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Lol I just went ahead and did it
Only cost around 10k
Since only like 3 nodes left
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ayee bigman
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I guess you can swap out Port for Roon if she has higher DPS
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shouldn't matter too much because that stuff should get you through 13-3 easily
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is your roon fate5?
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shouldn't matter 
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Nope
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ye it shouldnt
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Word of advice: avoid three triangle carrier nodes as much as possible. Especially if youre autoing, those will kill your backlines.
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nj shinano ark ches helena san fran
enty centaur percy roon mainz sandy
should ...
just use these fleets 
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She's Fate sim 0
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You might be able to take out two or three of them, but if that's all you get when you start the stage; I recommend just retreating and reloading
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Saint louis is fate sim 0 too
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all g, roon's meaty enough even without her shield proc at the start of the battle
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Saint Louis wouldn't really help against 13-3s boss, she might be good on the mobs.
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enty centy percy sandy eats them up
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try both
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mine 
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Doesn't matter too much honestly
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You have other ships you could use, that's just who I would use.
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I'd throw in a vestal if it were me but it's good it aint me 
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I feel like they could get by fine even with a Vestal
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vestal was my lifesaver on BH farm prior to oilcap
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I'm not really looking forward to having to farm 13-4 again for her since I lack another AA carry (well... I did get Isuzu and Reno recently)
Hope that the fleets we recommended help you though. I don't have much else to say, but to wish you luck that it helps you.
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ye post us a dewey in #trophy-room once you're done or something
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Washing machines on mob or boss fleets?
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both
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all
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on your tanks
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like use on all cruisers
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I only have 3 😦
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Use them on your tanks
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if you have a beaver squad tag, put both a washing machine and it on your boss tank.
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Is San Fran my boss tank or Cheshire?
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san fran off tank
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I'd say cheshire
Cheshire can survive c13 boss, and San Fran will get a big damage buff as offtank
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Sandy should tank chapter 13 easily though I'd think. AA carry seems to have really good survivability for chapter 13, but it's safer to put mainz offtank I think
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My Helena is still level 114
its fine
give helena the eagle union damage control device
also mainz offtank, sandy middle
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The SG Radar?
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SG radar would probably screw up timing
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I'll have to do it next attempt
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https://i.imgur.com/RIs0GgA.jpeg
give sextuple to cheshire, twin 113 to sandy, and rest of vanguard gets quad bofor
NJ and percy get staag/hazemeyer AA
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Percy wants Staag?
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Why does Percy want Staag exactly?
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What is going to hit? Is it gonna affect plane placement or something?
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hit affects crit rate
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oh
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Nice to see
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Use circular or double line on boss?
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I think Circular is better
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play it safe and go circ
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My friend told me to use that anyways
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ye iirc the boss there is the kek sisters
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yep, they can swat your planes with their planes and also your life 
I think the fleet he has is already auto friendly
he can always pause and restart anw
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yep
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That would've saved me so much oil
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I did like 25 runs of 14-2 😦
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man 14-2
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finally got to the point of clearing it and people were right, I just needed to get better at manual lol
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you failed?
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paused and restarted
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oh
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manual or auto?
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Auto
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hmmm
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ye it could've been helena with her 10% proc rate 
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And hope Ark doesn't miss a full shot of ryuuseis again
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I don't think I died to TAihou
You should try using Barracudas on Ark
on Auto it's a lot better to use those unless you're really good with timing and whatnot.
two bosses don't make it very easy to aim those
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Ripped them apart this time
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Yeah, I feel like a barracuda on Ark might help a little
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Idk, but this time Helena's skill procced and Ark hit all her Ryuuseis
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nice
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bless
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helldiver tho
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Is that bad?
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not necessarily. but you want ark to time her slows with the entire backline
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Not really, but she has pretty bad DB efficiency, so most use something like a fulmar for timing so she strikes first
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suisei works
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I'm not sure how much it'd help, but if you're ever able to get a couple Prototype Saiun Kais, she might want those too. I think they're the converging torps with the fastest reload
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Saiun Kais?
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pr4 gear
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Pr4 super rare plane
Either way it looks like you should be able to clear chapter 13 easily.
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you're welcome, come back to us when you have trouble with Chapter 14
You seem prepared for it mostly already
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if you were never bothered with planes in 13-3, then the same thing applies in 13-4
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The boss in my opinion is a little easier too
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yep just one big chunk of booba with carpet bombs
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uh oh
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I think the AI auto targets her healing boat
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yep. good thing NJ fires relatively fast to one salvo nagato, another for the repair then the last for the command
though super RNGy
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I wish I had Formidable on this account 😦
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I guess I just got god RNG because I don't think Taihou ever killed me
Tbh Ark Royal is better than Formidable
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^
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I'd consider retrofitting her if you use her a lot
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I just did yeah
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ye damage + utility I'd go for ark as well
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Before these runs
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That's good. She's better than formidable because her slow is guaranteed iirc
that's better on its own, but her having 25% chance to deal double damage is even better.
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if needed run a parallel torpedo bomber on ark
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Now to get back to drawing while playing absentmindedly lol
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no need to run double aimed if they whiffing
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Formidable is the better waifu though
Yeah I mentioned to them to use parallel torps if they keep missing. Hope that helps. It helped me with 14-2's boss.
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Im just afraid I won't have the damage with barracudas
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And roll the dice with Ryuuseis
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lmao
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the map will be scuffed with botes and taihou, you'll be fine
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They still do pretty respectable damage, and will technically hit more than Ryuuseis so they'll deal more damage on average most of the time.
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Fair enough
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Unless you're good with timing obviously, then Ryuuseis are better.
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A rank 
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Yeah she steals MVP a LOT in chapter 13
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Roon died on the final 0 ammo fight
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are you using the AA guns i mentioned earlier
ah
yeah that makes sense
you just gotta deal with it unfortunately
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Yea 😦
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she will stop dying eventually
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Yeah Roons kinda squishy compared to other tanks nowadays.
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yep just roon tingz 
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She's still good tank.
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actually
for the later battles
you can run mainz tank roon offtank maybe
but it doesn't matter in the end, since its only 1 fight
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Oh so spread the damage
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yeah
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Sounds good
Here I thought Ark was doing the most damage
I was wrong
Very very wrong
LOL
Gonna try barracudas this time
Lucky
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https://i.imgur.com/YlJtPCA.jpeg
who died
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Cheshire
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And Helena later
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yeah thats also kinda expected
helena dying same thing, shes slightly underlevel
you got your gear good?
that might be the issue
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Do you have other quad bofors?
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My AA guns:
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not that'd make a huge difference but I'm pretty sure it has a lower reload time
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give sextuple to cheshire, twin 113 to sandy, and rest of vanguard gets quad bof...
you want these as your AA guns
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Oh didn't see that
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Sexy gun and Quad bofors.
If ships have bad AA (most DD's, some CL's) they'll want accelerators with low reload time, but most of those are research
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It's pretty easy to get
Should note too that the PR4 AA gun I think has 2nd best DPS in the game
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Nah not really.
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Shocked I had enough Quad Bofors
yeah gold eagle boxes 
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Just used all my gold boxes hoping for a barracuda
And got one so I'm happy
Damage pretty stable even with Barracuda
New Jersey just too strong
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for now
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depends whether yamato, musashi, iowa, or even fdg fate5 or grosser kurfurst purecopium releases
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Right now she's a cut above everyone else in terms of damage for battleships
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Yeah, without her; people would probably recommend you run 3 CV's for chapter 13's boss
Idk tho, I feel like Monarch and other ships like her would still be worth using.
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ye monacc is still usable
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Can the EXP grind for PR1 combat data be skipped?
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nope; not unless you have protocore
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protocore better spent on guns
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What should I use these on?
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go to #bot-spam and type /protocore. it will give you an idea on which equips to pick
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yep and the chesh gun from pr3 works well in mobber CAs depending on whether your CA specializes on certain ammo types
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yeah
id go all in on the seattle gun
put it on mainz and helena
then get a 406mm/50 for NJ
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I thought the other UR BB gun was her BiS?
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^
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Oh