#deimos help
indigo reef
post your dock
unreal mountain
Sure
indigo reef
well just screencap ships you do have.
radiant fulcrum
Okay moving here
The main thing I see is I wouldn't use Noshi to tank 13 boss
indigo reef
For boss Enty/Essex good.
If you need NJ to carry other ships through w12 you can keep her in your fleet.
floral frost
Enty Essex and NJ made a good backline so you only need to get them up to the same level
radiant fulcrum
If you have Sandykai or Chesh I'd rather one of those in boss over Reno personally
indigo reef
Yeah, and use Reno for mob
unreal mountain
unreal mountain
If you have Sandykai or Chesh I'd rather one of those in boss over Reno personal...
Sandy kai is in mob fleet, and Cheshire I don't have sadly
indigo reef
Sandy kai is in mob fleet, and Cheshire I don't have sadly
yeah swap her and Reno in W13 when you get done leveling Reno
unreal mountain
(My docks are poorK
indigo reef
You have a lot of good ships tbh
unreal mountain
Huh? When I get to W13 put Sandy instead of Reno? And Reno into mob fleet?
indigo reef
Yes
unreal mountain
You have a lot of good ships tbh
I do, but I can't reach their full potential cause I'm stupid
I sometimes look at Akaga and thinking "I have you use you two"
I'm really scared of how long you're typing
indigo reef
Lets see... ships that are worth using... Idk how to do this in a way that shows how useful they are but here goes nothing:
Backline: Vittorio Veneto, Akagi/Kaga, Nagato, Ark Royal, Monarch, Jean Bart, Shoukaku, Warspite, , Essex, and Enterprise
Frontline: Kazagumo, Yuudachi Retro, Allen M. Sumner, London, Roon, Baltimore, Chikuma, Duca Degli, San Francisco, San Diego, Noshiro, Shimakaze
Italicized ones I think are double worth it.
oh, that didn't do what I wanted it to do
night crane
went a little overboard with the italicized ones
floral frost
You can list ships in Backline then to Vanguard, will make it easier and don't need to over-italitcize them
indigo reef
Sorry, I forgot you have to put stars before the word and after.
night crane
that looks about right now
indigo reef
Yeah I should've sorted by vanguard and backline.
I feel bad that it doesn't look like you have Aquila though. Her, Vittorio, and Duca Degli are really good as a trio. Unless I missed her.
Aquila is really good in general
indigo reef
They meant for me to sort the ships for you to level by vanguard/main.
unreal mountain
Oh ok
Nvm, I understand what you said
Ark needs enemy to stop
Whys Yuudachi retro and where do I use her?
Sam Fran is op
Sandy is ultimate as
Sex and enty I'm using
floral frost
Ark slows the enemies down whenever she launches her plane so she doesn't need the enemies to stop. She does suffer if the enemies are moving quickly but you can use parallel torper to counter that
indigo reef
Lets see... ships that are worth using... Idk how to do this in a way that shows...
I fixed it btw.
floral frost
Yuudachi-kai is good and can be used in both mobbing and bossing, though people like pairing her with Shima to quickly clear mobs now
indigo reef
Yuudachi is a hybrid damaging Destroyer and she's good for anything really. She deals pretty good gun damage and torpedo damage. The two things that usually separate destroyers.
unreal mountain
Hmm
floral frost
however that's post-retrofit, pre-retrofit or half-retrofit, her values won't be as high as other ships, though she's still pretty decent
unreal mountain
It's 0:24 am
My brain kinda hurts
But I want to keep listening
indigo reef
iirc though she is better at gun damage than torp damage though. Similar to Kitakaze whom most seem to consider sidegrades to each other.
Yuudachi supposedly slightly better though
Deimos has her retrofitted so yeah.
floral frost
Yuudachi is a gunboat post-retro yeah because of the MGM+1
unreal mountain
Like, someone said Noshiro won't be able to tank w13 boss so she won't be able to buff Shima
indigo reef
I'd recommend Noshiro in mobs for that if you needed her as a tank
unreal mountain
I don't really need her as tank
floral frost
Shima doesn't exactly need a buff to work it out tbh... the problem with Noshiro is she won't be able to tank it long enough against Taihou
unreal mountain
I only need good fleets
indigo reef
Unless you really, really like her, you could always use Minneapolis as a tank and also use San Francisco/Portland as the other.
floral frost
SF Off-tank could always do the same job as Noshiro, or even better
indigo reef
Yeah
Just San Fran can be an excellent tank or damage dealer depending on the position you place her or what you need.
unreal mountain
San Fran is op
floral frost
she's flexible, I wouldn't call her OP by a long shot
unreal mountain
Why I like Azur Lane
There are a lot of girls
Why I hate Azur Lane
There are a lot of girls
indigo reef
She's outclassed by a lot of the DR ships
Well... basically all of them. There's a few other ships I'd say are better than her as well.
but she's still like... top 10 CA in my opinion.
You should be able to make a fleet that will work in chapter 13 at least, but yeah... all the ships I mentioned are worth leveling, as well as others, but I mostly just said the ones you'd have an easier time leveling.
FDG is excellent, but I wouldn't use her until she's Dev level 30.
unreal mountain
Nows the question
Are my fleets ATM good enough for w13 or for I change somthing
unreal mountain
FDG is excellent, but I wouldn't use her until she's Dev level 30.
She's dev 23
So that's pain
indigo reef
I'd say to take whoever's advice before and use Reno in mob, Sandy boss, and you should be fine besides that point.
In my experience; Saratoga was really good at mobbing for w13
Though, I doubt you'd need two healers for chapter 13, if not; I'd say use Ryuuhou and Akaga.
unreal mountain
Like this?
unreal mountain
Though, I doubt you'd need two healers for chapter 13, if not; I'd say use Ryuuh...
Uhhhh, idk, I haven't cleared 12-4 yet
indigo reef
For that bossing setup; I'd personally use San Diego tank and San Fransisco off-tank.
Replace Noshiro with San Francisco to do that and I think you'd be great for Chapter 13
unreal mountain
indigo reef
Good, swap San Diego/San Frans positions when you do get to chapter 13, for leveling in world 12 that's fine for now.
unreal mountain
indigo reef
That's good.
unreal mountain
What about mob fleet?
indigo reef
You're better prepared than I am.
unreal mountain
You're better prepared than I am.
Not really
indigo reef
Mob fleet looks fine. If you do run into trouble, you can try using Reno in leftmost position, Noshiro in the middle, and Minne on the right. I am not sure if Reno could tank chapter 13, but it seems like AA-carry tanks better than other ships.
You actually are better prepared because you have two AA carries
unreal mountain
You also said about no need of 2 healers
indigo reef
I don't think you'd need it, but you can just try that composition and see if it works.
unreal mountain
Like, my mob fleet easilly survived 6 nods in 12-3 with uni only
indigo reef
it wouldn't hurt
unreal mountain
I'm interested in the fact you said Akaga + Ryuhou
I also heard about Akaga + Nagato
indigo reef
Chapter 13 is significantly more difficult that Chapter 12, Chapter 12 is effectively nothing
So I wouldn't take using one healer and surviving as you could do Chapter 13 no problem.
unreal mountain
So we need to try it first
indigo reef
Nakaga is great, but you'll want a healer if possible
unreal mountain
Nakaga is great, but you'll want a healer if possible
People give names to all combos
Wtf
Amazing + kaga
Akaga
Add Nagato to it
indigo reef
So Ryuuhou/Uni/Saratoga should be fine for you right now
indigo reef
Nah, they're not commonly used together so that's why there's no nickname
For a while people who didn't have proper healers would use Nagato/Akagi/Kaga together for Chapter 13, and they're great for Chapter 13 and other things, hence why they have a nickname
indigo reef
Not all ships have nicknames, just a few.
indigo reef
We're getting sidetracked. Your fleets are both fine rn, I'd say to level them all to around 115/120 before you tackle Chapter 13
unreal mountain
Fuck it
Unsexing your gf
unreal mountain
We're getting sidetracked. Your fleets are both fine rn, I'd say to level them a...
Thats obvious
indigo reef
It shouldn't take long.
unreal mountain
But they are fine as fleet build, right?
indigo reef
Yes
indigo reef
np
unreal mountain
@indigo reef I got another question
Here
Why do we use Reno and Noshiro?
Minne is zombie and very good tann
Backline is understandable
indigo reef
Reno is anti-air carry (I know... ECTL doesn't say she is), Chapter 13 has a ton of planes and anti-air is what shoots them down
unreal mountain
But why Noshiro?
indigo reef
Noshiro is just good, I just assumed you liked her so that's why I said to use her.
unreal mountain
I WANT TO CALL HER NOSHI BUT FUCKING AUTOCORRECT CHANGES IT TO NOSHIRO
unreal mountain
Noshiro is just good, I just assumed you liked her so that's why I said to use h...
(I don't like her) 
indigo reef
If you don't mind replacing her, I'd say replace her with Portland. She's a really good tank and deals good damage.
unreal mountain
I used her cause wanted to use Shima and thought Shima needed to rp buff
unreal mountain
If you don't mind replacing her, I'd say replace her with Portland. She's a real...
2 tanks?
indigo reef
Eh, Minne is fine as offtank
night crane
why are you switching to port
indigo reef
I guess if you didn't mind leveling Yuudachi either, she'd also be good. It doesn't really matter too much.
unreal mountain
But I'm not sure, we still need to try
unreal mountain
I am a boy
night crane
i am too
unreal mountain
Nice
indigo reef
I married Noshiro for stats myself 
I'm at point where I only refuse to use ships if I legitimately don't like them.
unreal mountain
Uhhhhhhh
So shady so I use add my mob vanguard? Sorry for hurrying, it's 0:51 am and I really wanna sleep, but since I know myself I'll forget about my fleets sip that's why I'm here so late
indigo reef
This thread will archive even when it gets deleted so you should still be able to see who you should be using
unreal mountain
I'll forget about this thread tomorrow
unreal mountain
Ye I know
indigo reef
oh
unreal mountain
Will it be good?
indigo reef
yes
unreal mountain
My brain just isn't processing how mobs fleets can have 2 tanks
indigo reef
if you don't want to use two tanks, just use someone else. Pretty much anyone in the list of ships I told you to level would be good
Choose the one you like most; idk
unreal mountain
Nah, if 2 tanks is good, I can keep it