#alter opsi help

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soft stump
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post dock here

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but generally you go for 4 fleets once you unlock all 4 fleet slots

signal acorn
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i thought you said you had work to do

soft stump
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i do UniHurt

signal acorn
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why are you here

brazen harbor
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Some stuff to know straight off; one fleet should be for mobs, another should only have battleships, and another should only have carriers.

harsh girder
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have some random ones i put awhile back

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im actually not joking im pretty new to op si lol

brazen harbor
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I'm gonna assume you don't have Perseus?

harsh girder
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nope, sadly missed the event

brazen harbor
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That's okay, just good to know

signal acorn
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hmm

brazen harbor
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at your point, you might just want to make two fleets and do everything up to C5; and just farm those

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I see Abyssals/Strongholds, and maybe some parts of C6 stages being a little challenging

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C5s have cat nodes which have a chance to drop gear lab blueprints and equipment, which you can use to craft better gear for your ships. I'd say Tigercats are the most worth getting early on, but there's other good equips to build too that can help you out.

signal acorn
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opsiren definitely won't be a focus for a little while

harsh girder
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all the gear lab stuff appearently i need to do op si so im looking into it now

brazen harbor
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Yeah, the best you should be able to do fight away is just finish the story, clear the map if you can, and then just farm the stages that are "corrosion level 5" and just do those.

proven cedar
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I honestly can't really think more than one decent fleet for OpSi out of what you have right now, but that won't go too far

brazen harbor
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Eventually you should get quite a few coins and the purple currency, and use that to buy out the shop.

harsh girder
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also i need 4 fleets for op si?

proven cedar
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eventually, yeah

signal acorn
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later on

brazen harbor
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3 you can get away with, but 4 is highly recommended

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certain stronghold/abyssal bosses you will need that 4th fleet for

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or else have fun suffering.

proven cedar
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Riche, Unicorn, Formi for main, San Francisco, Laffey, San Diego for vanguard

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but what would you make the second fleet, I'm struggling

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Enty, Helena and Portland.. but what around that?

signal acorn
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looking at like
port helena sandy nj enty formi for one fleet
richy ryuuhou uni sf laffey noshi for another

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mhm

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hard to make some focused fleets yet

proven cedar
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problem here is the half-dedication to many ships, instead of fully limit breaking one ship

harsh girder
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i keep maxing out their exp so i end up spreading bulins evenly

proven cedar
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New Jersey is your closest to max LB from your rainbows, you should absolutely max LB her first

harsh girder
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im 1 away from it and prob can get 1 more in a week

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i think i gonna spend my bulins on shima after

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but ATM for gold bulins im going

signal acorn
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shinano would probably be a better investment first before shima but

proven cedar
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Shima should be fine, but you'll have to slam two bulins on her to make her useful

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Shinano needs to be max LB'd to be useful

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she gets +1 on all planes at her last LB

harsh girder
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oh

proven cedar
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so she's gonna be missing lots of planes till that

harsh girder
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so thats why she doesnt do as much dmg huh

proven cedar
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yeap, a lot of damage is tied to limit breaking

signal acorn
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losing a lot of dmg without all stars

proven cedar
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carriers have planes, BBs have their main gun salvos

brazen harbor
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yeah you should limit break any ship whenever possible. It's not really worth saving oil

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well, backlines anyways

proven cedar
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and more than anything, focus a ship you want to use, don't just throw bulins around carelessly

harsh girder
proven cedar
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you'll benefit much more from single max lb than 3 ships with 1 lb on them

brazen harbor
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not doing so they're missing extra salvos and airplanes. I'd recommend that early on just focusing on 6 ships

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until you get to like; chapter 9-ish, when you can efficiently farm XP and stuff, leveling ships is complete hell. Though I'd at least get the 6 ships you decide on to level 115, that was about where I was when I finished the OpSi map with little issue.

proven cedar
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Noshiro > Nagato > Ryuuhou is what I'd argue

brazen harbor
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Yeah, that's what I was using. I imagine seeing as you have better ships than I did; 110 would be okay

proven cedar
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Ryu is more a healer than anything, you don't necessarily need her to be max LB

brazen harbor
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C6 stages are just a pain

harsh girder
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so should i wait to do opsi later then?

proven cedar
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honestly, you just need to level up your fleet first

brazen harbor
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Nah, you're at a point where I think you could do everything up to C5 just fine.

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you might need to heal after every battle on C5, but I feel like you could do it.

proven cedar
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after you're confident with two max LB fleets, then take over OpSi

brazen harbor
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It's definitely worth doing for gear.

proven cedar
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but yeah, depends how rough you want to take it

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as Draggo said, you possibly can do it

harsh girder
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should i just blast these on characters like shima?

proven cedar
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but it may be rough

brazen harbor
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I guess if you end up having trouble with C5, C4 should be no issue for you.

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Just; it's a lower chance for cat node drops.

brazen harbor
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I'd say to use the XP packs on some of the ships we already mentioned. Or ships you could easily max.

harsh girder
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im just grinding regular map and going through it atm

proven cedar
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that's gonna be 4 months till Shima is max LB

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assuming you hit the cap each month

brazen harbor
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Get to chapter 9 at least, because once you clear that stage; you get the oil cap stuff that makes farming XP a lot more efficient.

proven cedar
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a lot more efficient

brazen harbor
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If you can do chapter 10, then do it too. W11 is the most efficient XP for oil, but I feel like you'd struggle with it right now.

proven cedar
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11-1 is the best for experience right now, but even getting to chap 9 would be great for exp grinding

brazen harbor
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Yeah w9 has been a godsend for new players, because it gets rid of potentially months of grinding to get to a point to start doing more challenging content

harsh girder
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btw is this where i change fleet for op si? i can never find the button lol

proven cedar
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for how the new farming works starting w9, there is a hard cap for how much oil you will use per battle

signal acorn
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ORDER button

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fleet deployment

brazen harbor
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🐌

proven cedar
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example 9-1, no matter how thicc your fleet is, you'll only ever use 27 oil on mob enemies, and 37 oil on boss

harsh girder
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ahh LunaGalaxyBrain

harsh girder
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my fleets use like 50-70 oil atm lol

brazen harbor
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When you max limit break it gets way worse

proven cedar
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yeap

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80+ oil fleets are common

brazen harbor
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Current fleet

signal acorn
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especially once you start getting all these good endgame type of ships

brazen harbor
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Yeah, PR ships iirc cost the most oil

harsh girder
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currently im going for azuma as PR ship

signal acorn
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prs drs urs

harsh girder
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but still need 1/2 more tech points yaepain

brazen harbor
proven cedar
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FDG 19 oil I think alone?

harsh girder
brazen harbor
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If you don't have Monarch or Gascogne, I don't recommend focusing Azuma, I made that mistake and I promise you; I'm 18 months into the game and shes still not dev level 30

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Though admittedly I was mostly doing C research for a long time

proven cedar
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I'm about 2½ years into the game and I just got mine maxed, lol

harsh girder
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im mainly getting azuma for the character+ i have a skin for her

brazen harbor
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Monarch is a ship that will make a massive impact on your fleet.

proven cedar
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Monarch is pretty good for progression, yeah, but her last gun mount is behind Dev 30

brazen harbor
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Same with Gascogne, but she kind of needs fate simulation 5 to be most effective, but after catchup thats only like.... 200-ish blueprints/

signal acorn
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she's fine without fs5

brazen harbor
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Yeah

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I'd say after Monarch catchup to focus on gascogne, because you can just get free blueprints for Monarch to dev 30 her. w9 also gives a ton of coins, so you could just buy like... 7 blueprints for Monarch a day to get her to dev 30 after catchup.

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Or just do 2 free ones and that's it, that's also fair.

harsh girder
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i can probably work on monarch while getting tech points for azuma at the same time right?

brazen harbor
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It's okay if you're just going to work on Azuma to get her, just she takes a ton of time to invest in.

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I'd say you can, Sakura empire has a lot of good vanguards worth using. Though You might also need tech for Gascogne too, which admittedly will be quite difficult.

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iirc she needs iron blood tech points, and I had trouble getting iron blood ships early on

harsh girder
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my gascogne tech

brazen harbor
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You're close enough then nvm

harsh girder
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my iron blood ships

brazen harbor
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I'm not saying Azuma is bad or anything, I just know from experience she is a long investment, and for newer players it's better to work on ships you can get easily.

harsh girder
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idk why a few of my purple and blue ones are gone

proven cedar
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I mean, some of them aren't locked

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Z36 isn't atleast

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so you may have accidently scrapped them

brazen harbor
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You have my 3 ships I used to farm for her, I'm sure once you get done limit breaking the ships you are gonna use for w9 and stuff, you could fully limit break Bismarck/Graf/Tirpitz for gascogne.

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Those three are who I used to farm XP for her

harsh girder
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heres my IJN ships atm

brazen harbor
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I'm glad I am not at that point anymore, where there isn't 50 things I need to focus on.

proven cedar
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problem still persists that we'd need to make up a fleet here, this is just more bulin sinks

brazen harbor
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Wait... how is Shinano 105 at only 3 stars?

harsh girder
proven cedar
brazen harbor
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Are you on the JP/Cn server? iirc the limit breaking is different there

harsh girder
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im on EN

brazen harbor
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ohhh I didn't actually know that

proven cedar
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it's same system as with PR ships

brazen harbor
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thanks for the info.

proven cedar
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you don't need to reach the star levels on dev to get them beyond it

harsh girder
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yeah

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thats why i wanted to use the exp books on shima

brazen harbor
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Yeah I knew that; just didn't know it applied to UR's too

harsh girder
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since she has no limit

brazen harbor
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I don't recommend trying to go for shima right away, unless you plan on not using Shinano for a while

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I'd say its worth focusing Shima over Shinano, because Shima is just that good, but maybe use those EXP books on ships you can level right now and use.

proven cedar
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the thing with Shima, she can become usable at two LBs

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which is when she gets her first preloaded torps

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Shinano must get to max LB before she's useful due to her planes being behind that

harsh girder
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maybe shima LB2 then work on shinano?

proven cedar
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no

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don't get on that habit

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max LB is far more valueable than few 1LBs

harsh girder
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hmm

brazen harbor
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These are the 6 ships I think would be good to use rn given your circumstances. I suppose most max limit break ships would be fine to use right now

proven cedar
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those should be able to do alright as a fleet

brazen harbor
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Just all 6 of those are really good ships so that's why I recommend them.

harsh girder
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enty over NJ?

brazen harbor
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NJ isn't Max limit broken

harsh girder
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i can maxLB NJ in a week

proven cedar
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New Jersey is ridiculous ship once you get her to max LB

brazen harbor
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if that's the case, I'd say that you could replace her with Unicorn unless you have trouble with survivability

harsh girder
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these 3 are my last quests

proven cedar
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the thing with most battleships is this

brazen harbor
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Still worth leveling Unicorn though so yeah... I am a tad torn on who you'd replace her with. Riche is extremely good, so is Enterprise, and Unicorn is someone I think is definitely worth leveling for you so yeah haha

proven cedar
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their 3rd salvo is behind the last limit break

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so if it's purely gun focused BB, it's missing 1/3 of its damage till last limit break

brazen harbor
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Yeah

proven cedar
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NJ is honestly a decent ship already after first LB, she's more a hybrid barrage ship than pure gun boat

brazen harbor
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Once you do max her I guess you could replace Riche with her until you get to a point where you could start leveling Richelieu again

proven cedar
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so as long as you have her barrage skill maxed, she will be ok

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but she'll truly start to shine at max LB

brazen harbor
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I'm really not sure who would be the best ship to remove for her. I guess it's your preference, but Enty is a ship that is gonna be amazing at all stages of the game so I feel like leveling her is a great investment

harsh girder
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swap ryuuhou instead of unicorn once shes leveled?

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shes my mob fleet for overworld atm

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so shes getting alot of EXP

brazen harbor
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You can I guess, Unicorns healing is targeted so it's a little bit better.

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Ryuuhous is random, which is probably fine for anything before w10, but it could end up meaning disaster if you get bad rng or something.

proven cedar
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Ryuu isn't random, she targets lowest HP

brazen harbor
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Ohhh yeah, nvm

proven cedar
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"each heal targeting the allied surface ship with lowest percentage of remaining HP"

brazen harbor
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I shouldn't say anything because I haven't used her. I'm sorry.

proven cedar
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np, better to get corrected so you know how it works

harsh girder
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is it necessary to have a aircraft carrier? can i just run Riche/NJ/Healer for main?

proven cedar
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but honestly, I wouldn't even mind running both Ryuu and Unicorn

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Riche is hella strong battleships on her own right for mobbing

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she could carry little lower damage from Ryuu and Uni

brazen harbor
harsh girder
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ill start slotting in unicorn in mob for exp now

brazen harbor
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W10/11 you'll want battleships but Entys damage is so good it is worth using her in a boss fleet if you can get by with it.

proven cedar
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carriers are pretty good in mobbing fleets imo, but bosses... well, it really depends on a boss

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carriers are terrible at dealing with light armor bosses

brazen harbor
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Yeah

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mobs though they usually do good because the sb2c helldiver is great with multiple targets

proven cedar
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and fighters are helping with AA

brazen harbor
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Yeah

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I know you need to focus on the ships we mentioned, but you should try getting core data and getting Independence if you don't have her, she's very good at mobbing.

proven cedar
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Inde is ridiculous at mobbing

brazen harbor
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She's good in both fleets honestly

proven cedar
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not to mention she buffs other carriers cross-fleet

brazen harbor
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but seems like mobbing is pref for her

proven cedar
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and she can get away not using Wyvern too which is really hard plane to get

harsh girder
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also op si needs 2 fleets atm for me no?

proven cedar
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it starts with 2 fleets, 4 fleets later

brazen harbor
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Rn I'd just say use the ships I mentioned

harsh girder
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1 fleet only?

brazen harbor
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One fleet would be okay for everything up to C5, at least; was for me, and that's how you can farm for gear lab stuff

proven cedar
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Riche/Enty/Uni Main, SanF/Helena/Port vanguard

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that'll be your fleet 1

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for second fleet, I guess you could put together Nagato/NJ/Formidable and Noshiro/Laffey/Sandy?

brazen harbor
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Fleet 2 would be like; ships to deal with some of the bosses in the map stages, mostly just C5/C6 ones to make them less of a nuisance, when you get to that point; Helena and Enty will be who you'd want to swap to the second fleet, in replacement of two other ships you decide to level when you get to that point

proven cedar
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but that'd be something you need to spend time on leveling too

brazen harbor
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Eventually you'll have better fleet comps so like... Fleet 1 would be mobbing, Fleet 2 would be all battleships, and Fleet 3 would be all carriers.

proven cedar
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and Fleet 4 for torpedo memes

brazen harbor
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Fleet 4 being like; torpedo ships, squid fleet, whatever.

harsh girder
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ah so fleet 1 is mob

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fleet 2 is boss

brazen harbor
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Yes

proven cedar
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that'll what you'll transition to over time

brazen harbor
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Fleet 2, 3 and 4 are boss

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A better way to word it is; they're for different types of bosses

harsh girder
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i see

brazen harbor
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Some bosses are weak to carriers, some battleships, and some torpedos

harsh girder
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interesting

brazen harbor
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Yeah that's why 4 fleets is ideal

harsh girder
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is order correct or?

brazen harbor
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You already do have Ayanami maxed, and she's pretty good.

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yes that looks fine

harsh girder
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usually event maps or whatever let me move ships to flagship position or whatever so this is a bit unfamiliar

brazen harbor
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You put both Riche and Nagato in flag too which is good.

proven cedar
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my fleets from OpSi as examples

harsh girder
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should i bother with the cats

brazen harbor
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Here's mine

proven cedar
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you can move the ships within the fleet when you're out of that screen

brazen harbor
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my 4th fleet is kind of a mess rn

proven cedar
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my fleet 1 is just leveling up stuff + Perseus atm

brazen harbor
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You should at least have cats so yeah; there's these little nodes that have paw prints that your cats go to and get you equipment, in C5 you have a decent chance to get some really good stuff from them, which is why people recommend farming them

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C5 being these stages

proven cedar
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you could prolly have Sandy as the tank of Fleet 2, she's higher level, should be able to do the job bit better till you get Noshiro up and running

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there shouldn't honestly be any kind of problems with pushing to Chapter 9 with these two fleets

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so you would be able to get to start proper exp grinding too

harsh girder
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im pretty easily going through chapter 8 rn

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my fleet 1 (Mainly for EXP)

proven cedar
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Chap 9 is only lvl 88-95

harsh girder
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fleet 2

proven cedar
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mm, those should be fine enough

brazen harbor
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Looks good yeah

proven cedar
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Riche is going to demolish most of the mobs anyway

brazen harbor
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yeah haha

proven cedar
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enty + formi is alright combination to actually get things to hit on bosses

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would personally prefer Ark over Formi, but hey, have to do with what you have

brazen harbor
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Does Formidable have a slow?

harsh girder
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also i should probably get this right.. EulaSweat

proven cedar
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Formi has a full stop, but it's not reliable

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70% proc chance

soft stump
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its 100% on strike 1 though

brazen harbor
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Interesting NepSmug

harsh girder
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how do i not have sandy copies lol

proven cedar
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only on strike 1

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which is sometimes already used by time you get to boss

brazen harbor
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Now I know I should level Formidable then, thanks.

harsh girder
proven cedar
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I'll be damned, it's actually 80%

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I swear, near everything in this game is 70% so I just had that at back of my head

harsh girder
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lol

proven cedar
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but yeah, still unreliable

brazen harbor
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Only in Azur Lane can 80% be unreliable haha

proven cedar
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not to mention it only lasts for 1,5 seconds, so planes have barely time to get to drop their load in that time

brazen harbor
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It sounds really hard to time

proven cedar
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Ark Royal has guaranteed 60% slow for 8 seconds

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  • the gambler's 25% to deal double damage
brazen harbor
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Yeah... makes it even worse that I want to avoid using her; when her skill is way better than anyone elses slow

harsh girder
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should i just +10 albacore since its her BIS?

brazen harbor
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Yeah

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it's not a priority, but eventually yes

harsh girder
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out of general parts

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if your wondering

brazen harbor
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I'd max your other barracudas if you could

proven cedar
harsh girder
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barracuda>albacore?

proven cedar
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and she had 15 chances on that 60% roll

brazen harbor
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Barracuda is best non-gear lab/research torp bombers yes.

proven cedar
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^

harsh girder
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ah cause i just saw

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all these research/gearlab ones better

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so maybe waiting

brazen harbor
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Yeah all of the other ones are gear lab XD

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or research

proven cedar
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don't take that list as "higher is always better"

brazen harbor
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Yeah they're ordered weird

proven cedar
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torpedo bombers especially are situational

brazen harbor
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Like.... Most vanguards are geared like "best to worst HE/Best to worst AP/Best to worst normal" etc

proven cedar
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heavy cruisers are the only ships where there is "literally best in all situations"-gun

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and it's the rainbow Drake gun

harsh girder
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i should actually give my better equipment for planes on enty right

proven cedar
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for all the rest of the classes, guns are situational

brazen harbor
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CL's have that too

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Seattle gun is the best no matter what iirc, unless a certain CL wants a different gun like Neptune. Though Neptune is p bad so

proven cedar
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CL's have effectively a side-grade gun, but overall that's true

brazen harbor
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Though realistically CA's don't have that luxury because Drake gun is big pain to obtain

proven cedar
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also true

brazen harbor
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Maybe less of a pain than most UR equips because you'll probably want to focus on Pr3 gear at some point

harsh girder
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is it normal for formi to have higher AVI than enty with lower gear?

proven cedar
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yeah

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that's called "power creep"

brazen harbor
harsh girder
brazen harbor
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Her skill is gonna be very, very difficult to power creep

proven cedar
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new ships tend to be better stats to make them look better

harsh girder
proven cedar
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but Enty has Lucky E that keeps her very relevant even still

brazen harbor
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yeah

harsh girder
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just noticed formi health vs enty

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holy

brazen harbor
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70% chance to do double damage.

proven cedar
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Formi also has heavy armor

brazen harbor
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Yeah, so she has different weaknesses too

proven cedar
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wild torpedo appears

brazen harbor
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Kinda sad armor doesn't make a huge difference in this game unless it's what the enemies armor has

harsh girder
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possible to use saint louis in my fleets?

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in op si

proven cedar
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it doesn't make a huge difference, but noticeable still

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especially with vanguard

brazen harbor
proven cedar
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Louis kind of needs Riche in her fleet

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she's exceptionally good at dealing with light armor targets

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but that's about her shining point

brazen harbor
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ohhh she good for light armor, so yeah, she's pretty useful in those scenarios

harsh girder
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atm i barely have tanks too so... yeah..

brazen harbor
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Portland is a hella good tank

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San Fran is even better

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Prinz Eugen too but good luck getting damage out of her NepSmug

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Sanrui isn't much of a tank herself. She can tank, but you have better options so

proven cedar
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Prinz Eugen used to have the biggest ass health pool of CAs but Anchorage dethroned her

soft stump
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kasumi is a good tank

brazen harbor
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Yeah she is too

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Anchorage beat her in the top department too NepSmug.

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but yeah, don't use Eugen like; ever unless shes a waifu or something

proven cedar
harsh girder
proven cedar
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I kind of wish retro fit Eugen, but I'm honestly clueless what they should give her

brazen harbor
proven cedar
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her kit is just so out of date by now

brazen harbor
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She's gonna be hard to make good from just a retro I think

harsh girder
brazen harbor
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btw I had her in fleet 4 because testing

proven cedar
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they'd need to absolutely give her a proper buff on damage department, new skill and also buff the shield skill

harsh girder
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the biggest rip is the neptunia collab

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all the ships poormanselmofire

brazen harbor
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I had Fumo/Twin 134mm on her, and had an underleveled Ning Hai outdamaged her

proven cedar
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I started after neptunia collab

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big sad

soft stump
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same

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i started the week after it ended

brazen harbor
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I started after the hololive one I think

harsh girder
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rip

brazen harbor
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I gotta check

harsh girder
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they dont even rerun collabs too

proven cedar
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nope

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licencing stuff

harsh girder
brazen harbor
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I started before the Quincy event I think because I remember that loading screen with her and the other two ships of that event

proven cedar
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I started during the Nagato event

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when it first happened

soft stump
brazen harbor
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I gotta find the event after Quincy Rerun

harsh girder
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i remember i joined during first shoukaku event i think?

proven cedar
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that would've been 2018 then?

harsh girder
brazen harbor
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I'm guessing I joined during the Sandy retrofit re-run or the Air raid drills with Essex thing

harsh girder
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yeah appearently 2018 omegajoy

brazen harbor
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The event before was Skybound Oratorio MonarchSad

proven cedar
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hooooold on

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no, it was Nagato's rerun when I joined

brazen harbor
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wait; I HAD to have joined during Nagato re-run

soft stump
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this isn't gameplay related anymore

brazen harbor
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because I don't remember getting Independence

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YEah xD

proven cedar
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mildly getting sidetracked

harsh girder
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tangent

proven cedar
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just a little

brazen harbor
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I'm not sure what else to say since you have no more questions, but I do wish the best of luck for you.

harsh girder
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i think i just need to grind now yaepain

proven cedar
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chapter 9 calls

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it wants your oil

harsh girder
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i usually have so much oil

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i just dump it into food

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cause its capped

proven cedar
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time to get to exp grinding

harsh girder
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when im busy and not playing game much

brazen harbor
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its fine you dump it into food, just make sure you only use it on naval curry

harsh girder
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lol

brazen harbor
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okay good

proven cedar
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*squints*

brazen harbor
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That's the only good advice I remember getting from Ender lol

proven cedar
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I've been trying to progress in w14 today

brazen harbor
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Ander? The Youtube guy sorry haha

proven cedar
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what is oil?

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atleast I don't need to fear eagle union invading my port

brazen harbor
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I've lost 8k to 14-1 and now leveling ships because I know I am not ready for 14-3 MonarchSad

harsh girder
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id like to experience high level world map too now

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thats why im running through it

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seems cool

proven cedar
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world 14

brazen harbor
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You'll be a LONG while before W14

proven cedar
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destroyers

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trust me

harsh girder
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well not W14 RN

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lol

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but like maybe goal for now is 12

brazen harbor
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W13 will be a challenge though, seeing as you lack AA carries

proven cedar
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the hiding thing goes with evasion

brazen harbor
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your fleet comps look like they might struggle without that, you should get by okay though

proven cedar
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full DD fleet takes forever to get exposed and properly shot at

harsh girder
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i heard sandy just carries in 13 wasnt it?

brazen harbor
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She did for me, but apparently Reno does better

harsh girder
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reno?

soft stump
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nopew

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sandy is best

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since unlike reno

proven cedar
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Vestal and Akashi do alright as AA carriers too

soft stump
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sandy gives 60% aa buff to everyone

brazen harbor
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She's an event ship, I saw someone use her the other day and she was way better than Sandy in his runs

soft stump
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or some bs high number

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also if reno is mvp stealing cause AA note sandy gives everyone AA meaning ppl are taking damage away from sandy

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so thats misleading

harsh girder
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i have sandy so shouldnt it be fine whenever i get to W13 with ships leveled

brazen harbor
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He had Reno and Sandy both in an absolute dogshit AA composition, and with Sandy; like; 3 of his ships died, and Reno; they all survived convincingly

soft stump
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muse have not gotten the retro skill

brazen harbor
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Idk; I kinda doubt it too

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but eh... Reno still is good. I need to check if Allen M Sumner can AA carry.

proven cedar
harsh girder
brazen harbor
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Sandy will probs be who I recc for boss

proven cedar
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Sandy can take care of most of the AA job, yeah, but you'll also need something to actually kill the mobs

brazen harbor
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if you don't think you'd get Cheshire very soon, you can always get Isuzu from 7-3

proven cedar
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health pools on enemies start to skyrocket starting Chap12

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and so does the number of waves

brazen harbor
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W14 seems to have like; endless waves 😦

proven cedar
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14-3 has submarines too :3

brazen harbor
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3 star battleships are like; at least 4. I was so occupied I couldn't count them

harsh girder
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saw new orleans picture announced, got excited, only to be slapped in the face with 14-4 drop

brazen harbor
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for w14 you'll have to learn how to manual properly too

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Yeah, if they announce a new chapter and they tease a new ship; they'll probs be locked to that chapter

proven cedar
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yeah, auto won't do in w14

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not even close

harsh girder
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oh yeah

proven cedar
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trouble with manually evading most of the stuff

harsh girder
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speaking of subs

brazen harbor
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Thankfully doesn't seem like New Orleans is THAT good, so it's okay you'd be missing out for a while

harsh girder
brazen harbor
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Archerfish is cool, you could get the sub from the exercise shop and have a semi decent pairing.

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Surcouf is just a waifu and i-58 is p bad XD

proven cedar
harsh girder
proven cedar
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so you have to deal with those too

harsh girder
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i mean

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they just shoot me

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and i ignored them

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so far

brazen harbor
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yeah, at least you have Surcouf; she's my fave, if they ever do Submarine retrofit; shes who I want to get one

proven cedar
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you can't really ignore them in w14

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they deal a lot of crash damage, not to mention revealing back line

brazen harbor
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Which event was the hedgehog gear?

proven cedar
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which will get turned to minched meat in w14 if they get spotted

brazen harbor
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I am pretty sure hedgehog was Shinano event but I can't remember

harsh girder
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no idea what subs do either ngl

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from what im hearing they are anti enemy subs

brazen harbor
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hedgehog was from Supply Line Raid? I don't remember that. I guess I recall just randomly getting it and not knowing where it came from haha

proven cedar
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"Clear the Supply Line Disruption Daily."

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I think this may have been event tied?

brazen harbor
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That's pretty much mandatory though

proven cedar
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no

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I think

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this is just when it got introduced

brazen harbor
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Maybe the other ASW stuff from gear lab maybe would help

proven cedar
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so anybody should be able to get it

brazen harbor
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That's good, it's very helpful

proven cedar
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Hedgehog is honestly hilarious in w14

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because the enemy concealment thing

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where your shots will be inaccurate

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also applies to ASW weaponry

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full concealed submarine, and Hedgehog will shoot it bombs around the whole damn screen

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I laughed so hard when it first happened

proven cedar
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and they will yeet torpedoes at the enemy for a little while

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resurface and shoot a couple of times with DD guns

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and then retreat

harsh girder
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ah

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btw what world do cats kinda be really needed

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might need to research that tmrw '

proven cedar
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cats aren't exactly needed, you should more concider them as small additional buff

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it's more important to get the girls up and running than getting cats

harsh girder
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hmm

proven cedar
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there is a couple of traits that can be very useful tho

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if you happen to get a cat with them

brazen harbor
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Two of mine have Damage reduction so yeah

proven cedar
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these two

harsh girder
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imma check

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rn

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do they have to be gold or can they be elite

proven cedar
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also getting a good specialized cat can be a ok buff

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it's not a huge bonuses, concidering that carriers have like +700 AVI from all the gear and stats, but small buff

harsh girder
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just checked

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i have one with flame and one with mountain

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mountain

proven cedar
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if you haven't gotten dupes for the legendary cats to level up their skills, those two are honestly just something you could slap to the fleets for the % buffs, regardless what else they buff

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damage reduction to mob fleet and damage buff to boss fleet

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getting the just perfect talents for the cats is loooooooong process

harsh girder
proven cedar
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that said, I'm really happy with this Steel

harsh girder
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oh they get more talents

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wow

proven cedar
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each 5 levels

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they get talent point

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and you'll use that to either buff one of the existing talents, or getting a new talent

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you always have 4 choices, but the choices generated are random

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sometimes it just gives you 4 new talents to choose from even tho your other talents aren't maxed yet

harsh girder
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how do i level them up btw?

proven cedar
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comf-fort, which is in the cattery

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you put the cat in the fort and it'll get exp over time

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then you get experience whenever the fleet your cat is in, takes part in battle

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and lastly you can feed fodder cats to your cat and they gain portion of the experience the fodder cats had

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you also need duplicates of the same cat to improve the skill they have

harsh girder
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like this?

proven cedar
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similiarly as limit breaking is with ships

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you can ofc also use lvl 1 cats as fodder

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it's just not much exp that you get out of them

harsh girder
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oh dang

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i can choose

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wth

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this is onflame

proven cedar
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those are the 4 options you get

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since it's Oscar, you prolly want to go with BB buffing on her

harsh girder
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these all random or something

harsh girder
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mb

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just had same 2 choices twice in a row earlier

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alright well thanks for all the help so far, its getting late so imma head off now.

proven cedar
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glad to be of help~