Meow

[primal plume]

Go ahead and post your entire dock here

[obsidian perch]

SURE

[primal plume]

[pine plume]

[polar hornet]

[obsidian perch]

I Cant see this channel on my phone

[boreal glacier]

[pine plume]

you can't click "share" and post it

gotta manually do it

[primal plume]

just take screenshots and use the + button here

[obsidian perch]

k let me email them to me

or bother someone

[primal plume]

[boreal glacier]

aquila/percy/indep + drake/sandy/sf mob, Fdg/NJ/Shinano + Agir/Helena/Chesh my work here is done

[primal plume]

bother summon, as in email them?

[obsidian perch]

Oh i just messaged them to someone

and ill take it from therr

[primal plume]

[obsidian perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/488574970671267840/899470955276042270/image0.png

[pine plume]

i see NJ and shinano

[primal plume]

ah thankfully there's ryuuhou

[primal plume]

there will be a bit leveling needed, thankfully easy enough now

[obsidian perch]

ah yeh im sure

heres the last one

[daring river]

boss: NJ enty essex portland sandy sandiego
mob: shinano ryuuhou illustrious yuudachi shimakaze(mlb) sanfran

[obsidian perch]

Yeah, Im sure Ill need to level, I just need to know who

[primal plume]

wtf minus

[boreal glacier]

NJ/Shinano/Warkai + Agir/Helena/Sandy
Enty/Ryuuhou/Uni + Yuudachi /Reno/SF

[pine plume]

since he needs to level stuff

tell him to lvl san fran

[daring river]

wjat

[boreal glacier]

no point in portland

[pine plume]

also fhei replace uni with lusty and reno with belfast cause then less leveling is needed

[boreal glacier]

agir is already at her peak dev

[boreal glacier]

no

[pine plume]

[boreal glacier]

i aint going for a downgrade

[primal plume]

NJ Shinano Warkai Heinrich Helena Sandy
Enty Ryuuhou Centaur Agir Yuudachi SF

[daring river]

NJ enty essex sanfran helena sandiego
shinano ryuuhou lusty yuudachi shimakaze someone

[pine plume]

sf twice

[boreal glacier]

lusty is a huge step down

[pine plume]

using lusty as the mob AA carry will save a lot of grinding

[boreal glacier]

not really

you can just go centaur

[primal plume]

not like leveling is that hard nowadays

[boreal glacier]

lusty is too niche when he has better options later on

[primal plume]

centaur is just a better option

[pine plume]

man only has 1 gold bulin too

[primal plume]

and you can easily get more

[daring river]

lusty is so good for lethal clear

[obsidian perch]

illustrious?

[daring river]

yea

[boreal glacier]

lusty is good at slowing down your clear

[pine plume]

who gives a shit about speed on lethal

[primal plume]

if he does need a little extra aa he can just use reno or someone else with good aa in the vanguard

[daring river]

u needed to make sure u able to cleared it first

[boreal glacier]

less time in battle

less dmg taken

[pine plume]

at that point just level dido muse instead of reno

since dido muse already leveled

[daring river]

faster clear doesnt matter if die

[boreal glacier]

dont be dumb sam

as if you'll die without lusty

[obsidian perch]

Im fine with leveling from level 1 for optimal clear

[daring river]

1 healer

[obsidian perch]

just need a path to follow

[boreal glacier]

boomers cant move on

i recommended 2 healers

[daring river]

ryuuhou alone is not enough for lethal

i recommend 1 healer and lusty

[boreal glacier]

because healer + shield is meh on mob

[daring river]

and lusty deal more dmg than unicorn

[boreal glacier]

especially since its lusty shield

you dont even get full use of it

meanwhile full use on uni heal

[primal plume]

yeh

[daring river]

faster clear, ur vanguard doesnt die

and vanguard being dds

[boreal glacier]

Shima and Yuudachi are squishy

dont be dumb

Yuudachi can main tank 115 taihou at lethal

move on from your boomer ways

[obsidian perch]

[daring river]

what does 2 healer do better

[pine plume]

2 healer makes it consistent

[boreal glacier]

better sustain

[daring river]

when lusty and unicorn do the same job

[boreal glacier]

shield isnt always up

[pine plume]

lusty and ryuuhou don't do the same job

[boreal glacier]

heal is

shield dont block all the time

a heal will

[daring river]

it will block dmg make it u needed less heal
make it only 1 healer will be enough to be consistent
and more aa making ur backline also take less dmg too

[boreal glacier]

it will block 20 dmg then not be useful

mobbing dmg isnt burst

and it never gets to break lusty shield

[daring river]

it last for 8 second for every 20 second

[boreal glacier]

heal is much better

and you think mobs can break that shield

even lethal w13 cant break jda shield

and that shit is so much squishier

[daring river]

if they cant break the shield

mean it good

[quasi gust]

[sweet vale]

what even is this thread

[boreal glacier]

if they can't break

heal is bettrr

[quasi gust]

Started off as a W12-W13 help thread

now its pasta

[boreal glacier]

heal is constant 300 forever

[quasi gust]

[sweet vale]

someone tldr

i'll settle this

[obsidian perch]

Ive cleared 12 already

[quasi gust]

shhhh let them go at it

[daring river]

tldr lusty vs unicorn in w13

[obsidian perch]

I need world 13 help

[boreal glacier]

minus thinks lusty shield is better than uni heal on w13 mobs

[sweet vale]

unicorn should be more useful in mobbing while lusty boss

bruh

[quasi gust]

wait minus I can't back you up on this dawg

[boreal glacier]

lusty is useless in this scenario

[sweet vale]

if only lusty shield carries over then maybe

[daring river]

i saying lusty is a better ship overall in w13 mob
cause she also give 3 more fighter and better fighter eff

[sweet vale]

too bad she doesn't

[quasi gust]

I have the game uninstalled and even I know that unicorn is better what kind of shit are you on

[boreal glacier]

she never ever gets full use of shield

while heal is always full use

why use a downgrade

lusty doesnt even outdps uni

[daring river]

[sweet vale]

is fighter really necessary to make up for the fact that she doesn't heal

[obsidian perch]

[quasi gust]

Alright children

[daring river]

NJ enty essex sanfran helena sandiego
shinano ryuuhou lusty yuudachi shimakaze someone

here my recommendation
i'm out

[quasi gust]

Did you two at least

good

[sweet vale]

like this, she has better fighter coverage than uni i agree
but the vg can still die during her downtime

[boreal glacier]

its literally why aql is better than lusty, shield is never full use
but heal is

[quasi gust]

At least you answered the guy's question

[boreal glacier]

yes

[sweet vale]

while uni has virtually no downtime in survivability

because it's heal, and not shield which has duration

[quasi gust]

@obsidian perch did you get a satisfactory answer btw?

[obsidian perch]

I

[quasi gust]

follow the recommended fleets

[obsidian perch]

I dont know

[pine plume]

lmao

[daring river]

i dont think his vanguard will ever die
the thing which more likely to die is his backline
atleast for my fleet cause i dont bring any aa carry for mob

[quasi gust]

All you need is AA tbf @obsidian perch

make sure your gear is all leveled and you are fine

[boreal glacier]

his backline wont die

[daring river]

his vanguard wont die either

[sweet vale]

it's shinano pepelaugh

[boreal glacier]

then lusty is just slowing down the job

[sweet vale]

just bring someone with damage then

[boreal glacier]

why go defence when its enough

[quasi gust]

@pine plume here --> 🍿

[sweet vale]

what is the fleet even

[boreal glacier]

heres mine

[daring river]

then u lose out on fighters and survivbility
then ur fleet will die
it a fine thin
unicorn is good replacement
but i think lusty is better for my recommendation

[boreal glacier]

i know agir is enough

since i use her at that dev lv

to tank lethal taihou

[sweet vale]

is survivability that necessary

[boreal glacier]

no

[sweet vale]

if you just kill everyone

[boreal glacier]

cuz you dont lose that hard in aa

and aa wont matter if the clear is faster

[daring river]

ryuuhou alone is not going to be enough in w13
cause 13-1 13-2 13-3 dont have ammo node

[boreal glacier]

its uni ryuuhou

idk why you ever need more survival

[nocturne tangle]

Is the asker even here anymore

[daring river]

uni ryuuhou is safed to clear

[sweet vale]

if you're doing full clear double healers (no perseus) is the goat though

[quasi gust]

shhhh

here

🍿

and the asker already got his question answered

[eager rampart]

yeah im gonna take one too, this is fun

[quasi gust]

...i think

[nocturne tangle]

🍿

[daring river]

fucked it
lusty unicorn ryuuhou yuudachi shimakaze tashkent muse

[boreal glacier]

trash dmg

[sweet vale]

alright let me get this straight
double healers works
ryuuhou + Lusty works
what now

[daring river]

shimakaze carry

[obsidian perch]

dont take out shinano

[daring river]

let go

[boreal glacier]

why the hell are you forcing 3 dd anyway

[obsidian perch]

[boreal glacier]

when he has better cruisers

also that shima is not mlb

[nocturne tangle]

:3sAWAAAAAAAAAA:

[quasi gust]

@obsidian perch you dont have to take out shinano

[obsidian perch]

yeah if possible no shima

[sweet vale]

pausechamp

[nocturne tangle]

Wtf no nqn

[quasi gust]

just ignore them

[quasi gust]

ur in ALO

[daring river]

go with slug fleet then

[obsidian perch]

I used all of the bulins from shima event on NJ

[daring river]

i'm out

[sweet vale]

simple solution

use fhei's fleet but SF mid and replace uni with someone with damage

[pine plume]

just run
boss: nj shinano spite agir helena sandy
mob: enty lusty ryuuhou hein yuudachi san fran

and if you need extra healing just run san fran mid and poi offtank like what the hell is the issue

just end this already

[quasi gust]

[sweet vale]

double healer: check
damage: check
everything: check

[daring river]

slug just hate on my fleet with lusty smh

[sweet vale]

the battle of legends

one shills lusty the other one hates lusty

[quasi gust]

what legends

[sweet vale]

but objectively

i'll go for neither

[quasi gust]

all i see is

[sweet vale]

kekw

[nocturne tangle]

There's no objective in Azur Lane :kekw:

[obsidian perch]

I want to put as many eu with NJ as possible?

[pine plume]

no

[quasi gust]

nope

[pine plume]

its just helena is boss oriented

and sandy is your best AA

even if they weren't eu you would use them w/ NJ in boss

[obsidian perch]

shinano for fleets?

[boreal glacier]

lusty just brings nothing new in the table

[pine plume]

shinano would be next to NJ in boss

[obsidian perch]

Just so many different teams given

[quasi gust]

yeah ikr lusty trash

[sweet vale]

jeez as expected from a 2018 ship right

[obsidian perch]

one person split nj and shin

[quasi gust]

you tell minus fheilyn

[primal plume]

wtf this is still going

[pine plume]

welcome to AL, when lotta options exist

[quasi gust]

shhhh

[boreal glacier]

i have a lv 120 lusty so i can confirm

[quasi gust]

ye lusty useless

[primal plume]

sam really wants lusty omegalul

[sweet vale]

any recommended fleet works tbh, only minmaxers argue which is better

[daring river]

i also have 120 lusty she carry my ass of

[obsidian perch]

shinano essex nj san diego san francisco helena boss?

[pine plume]

that works, just make san fran tank

[boreal glacier]

all i hear is aquila

[sweet vale]

Aquila is just 3 years older bro

[obsidian perch]

Right now yuu and shima like to die

fast

[boreal glacier]

aql is yuugi oh cheat code

[pine plume]

yeah you need to level yuu

don't need shima

[boreal glacier]

that shima is not mlb

dont bother

[daring river]

yea shima needed max limit break

[pine plume]

you shouldn't use shima anyway ye

[sweet vale]

lmfao

[obsidian perch]

i didnt really think so

[boreal glacier]

i would have picked shima if she was mlb

[sweet vale]

shima is fucking goated in mobbing but she surely needs sufficient level and lb to do so

[obsidian perch]

yeah i only count her out from the fact that itll be months until shes mlb

4 at least

[pine plume]

lets ditch shima for now

[sweet vale]

what now

[pine plume]

since you aren't gonna use her anyway

and lets instead talk about options that are easier to level

[obsidian perch]

san x 2 and helena for boss van, nj shinano essex for boss

or is essex better for mobs?

[pine plume]

essex is fine in boss

[obsidian perch]

only picked her because of recommended teams

[boreal glacier]

id enty mob since someone here is malding about no ammo

no ammo? who cares
Enty is here

[pine plume]

yeah essex is good

[daring river]

yea

[obsidian perch]

I mean ent is already built which is helpful

[sweet vale]

no ammo? Gloucester to the rescue

[pine plume]

run heinrich over san fran here since san fran has better utility in mobs for you

[boreal glacier]

bismarck with promise

[sweet vale]

only affects backline, trash

[obsidian perch]

swapped sanfran to mob fleet

mob fleet has ryuu , ...lusty? enty

tash, yuu, san

[boreal glacier]

just run yuudog

his yuudog is lvled

[pine plume]

no like if you need san fran heal you can physically slide her over

[boreal glacier]

and yuudog + ryuuhou dont die

[pine plume]

not like shes locked into one spot

[obsidian perch]

wait

is san fran for mobs or boss

[pine plume]

mobs

[boreal glacier]

legit yuudog + ryuuhou is his tankiest vg mt

[pine plume]

run yuudachi also in mobs

[obsidian perch]

yuu is the mob team

tash is the 3rd frontline

[sweet vale]

i'd rather run Enty Ryuu Strasser in mobbing, with SF mid

[obsidian perch]

tash u

[boreal glacier]

SF mid

[sweet vale]

yes SF mid

[pine plume]

yeah this seems like the best solution

[sweet vale]

that fleet kinda lacks AA though

[boreal glacier]

reno

[pine plume]

which is why the lusty recommendation is valid

[boreal glacier]

[sweet vale]

if you can use Reno instead of Tashu

[pine plume]

unless you wanna level reno/dido muse

[boreal glacier]

reno exist

[sweet vale]

that should be better

[pine plume]

but both are lvl 70 or under at 0 mlb

[daring river]

lusty if u lack aa

[primal plume]

is there something wrong with leveling better options

[boreal glacier]

reno just offers more dmg to a team

[sweet vale]

takes time i guess

[obsidian perch]

oh Im fine leveling

[boreal glacier]

see

[obsidian perch]

I just dont want to level random units

[primal plume]

it takes less time leveling nowadays

[boreal glacier]

reno is the way

[primal plume]

dude already gave us consent

[boreal glacier]

[obsidian perch]

the issue with shima is that itll be months

[boreal glacier]

yeh we didnt include shima

pretend she doesnt exist

[obsidian perch]

itll still be a bit of time with the sr bulins

but not as long

[boreal glacier]

you can get 8 purins per month

vs 1 URin

[obsidian perch]

I need to do my exercises

[sweet vale]

does he have Allen

[primal plume]

considering that he already needs to levels getting more purins during that timeframe isn't an issue

[boreal glacier]

allen

is that you papi

[obsidian perch]

nope

[boreal glacier]

[sweet vale]

ok fine

[boreal glacier]

alao

[obsidian perch]

My units are way at the top

[boreal glacier]

also

papi said allen couldn't aa carry w13

[sweet vale]

lmfao

[primal plume]

[sweet vale]

sure

[boreal glacier]

but my juneau

with indep/aql can

[sweet vale]

indep

very fair

[boreal glacier]

its not cheating

🙂

[sweet vale]

SF in the middle

[boreal glacier]

remove lusty

[obsidian perch]

will do

[boreal glacier]

🙂

[obsidian perch]

just what it looks like rn

[boreal glacier]

lusty is invalidated by reno

[sweet vale]

use Strasser instead of Lusty

[primal plume]

or centaur if you want to level her

[boreal glacier]

reno just makes cv backline tanky already

[sweet vale]

holy shit reno good

[boreal glacier]

wait

we legit didnt use agir

[obsidian perch]

the teams arent final

[sweet vale]

agir dev20 bro

worse than Hein

[boreal glacier]

sure buddy

lets just forget the utility

[obsidian perch]

both hein and aeg are skill maxed if it makes any difference

and i have dev 4 chosen

[sweet vale]

what utility in a 1BB 2 CV comp

[obsidian perch]

Ag is my priority to dev

[boreal glacier]

slow and perma armor break

for NJ

idk

[sweet vale]

idk

[boreal glacier]

i heard taihou moves

[obsidian perch]

aeg is only dev 15

[boreal glacier]

[obsidian perch]

[boreal glacier]

good news

[obsidian perch]

Im working on it

[boreal glacier]

d15 is enough for all content

for agir

[sweet vale]

so is Heinrich

[obsidian perch]

blessed be

[sweet vale]

at mlb

[boreal glacier]

using a weaker late game ship

smh

[sweet vale]

but muh dev15

[boreal glacier]

d25 is easy to get

[obsidian perch]

theres also the baby FDG at dev 20

[boreal glacier]

trust

[sweet vale]

i need to resize this

[primal plume]

dev20 fdg 🚮

[boreal glacier]

if yuni can d30 agir

d25 is easy

🙂

[sweet vale]

yeah bro

just git gud in rng

either way changes are final i'm going to shitpost somewhere else

[obsidian perch]

good news prinz is now level 120

Hein

so uh

is the team good now

who was a replacing lusty for mobs with

centaur?

[primal plume]

sure

[obsidian perch]

oh dear

[primal plume]

or strasser

[obsidian perch]

strasser is faster

[primal plume]

either are viable options with the vanguards you have

[obsidian perch]

Thank you

It just means saving 4 bulins

7 bulins

instead of 11

I guess its time to see if I can ram my face into 11-1 with these teams

[primal plume]

centaur is like an inbetween between lusty and strasser which is why she was a good option between there

[obsidian perch]

as for gear I can use the gold gear I have +the repair kits and stuff

plus I guess the tier list which shows optimal gear

[primal plume]

yeh

[obsidian perch]

how useful are torpedoes here?

[primal plume]

torps are nice if you have them

[obsidian perch]

Just want to use my UR torp

[boreal glacier]

if it hits

it does good dmg

assuming its used by yuudog and etc

[obsidian perch]

does the boss use torpedoes?

oh yeh itll go on yuu

[boreal glacier]

torp that does dmg no

[primal plume]

also, put helena in the middle

[boreal glacier]

yuudog is your only high torp vg

[obsidian perch]

just figuring out aux gear

got it

I was just seeing whether anti torpedo bulge was a good aux

[primal plume]

oh the aux? no need

it won't really be better over the standard eva + toolbox

[obsidian perch]

i need more gear

but I did find I could craft another eva

[primal plume]

and it's just really unlucky if needed, you can always reset the fight

[obsidian perch]

need more evasion items

ugh

[pine plume]

no don't run triple cv in 11-1 mobs

[primal plume]

do like 12-1 with trip cv

[obsidian perch]

it's working thanks

I was just worried the fleets would die

[primal plume]

sweet

[obsidian perch]

no i mean for 12-1

[primal plume]

ye

[obsidian perch]

Im sure itll work for 13 when its ready

I should open another slot for skill leveling

[pine plume]

i wouldn't do that with free to play gems

[obsidian perch]

....

So I should make sure I buy the gems instead?

[pine plume]

i mean if you intend on buying gems later in the future the sure spend it now

[primal plume]

he's not f2p

[pine plume]

oh

[obsidian perch]

[pine plume]

then sure go for it

[primal plume]

or she

[obsidian perch]

Im not super whale but Ill buy stuff

[pine plume]

then yeah you can get slot 3 in classroom

[obsidian perch]

youre the first person to even think I was girl

it would be slot 5

[pine plume]

i thought classroom was 4 slots max

[primal plume]

i generally refer to everyone as he

[obsidian perch]

oh

[pine plume]

unless you mean dorm

[primal plume]

although you had certified cat lady so

[obsidian perch]

Oh crap maybe it is 4 max

yeh

I stopped getting annoyed at being called he

its just funny

well i need to not let the second fleet fight the boss, way too weak\

[pine plume]

yeah

fighting boss on 0 ammo is rough

[primal plume]

mobs not meant to fight boss

after all those mobs and low ammo

[obsidian perch]

I had the boss fleet fighting mobs to level

[primal plume]

ah

yea

[obsidian perch]

I cant open more class youre right

[quasi gust]

hmmm...