nicholas vs laffey and gremmy pauser

[turbid tangle]

let’s go

[modest meadow]

u actually re srs...

[unborn dawn]

you forgot to add vs ayanami

then only chat about nich

[lilac wyvern]

20 ran in 11-4
20 ran 12-4
all end screen
let go

[lavish tulip]

How are you gonna do papi style if theres no third ship in the title

[unborn dawn]

reset

[jagged pendant]

[turbid tangle]

nicholas vs laffey vs insert 3rd ship pauser

[unborn dawn]

show gear

[lavish tulip]

Good now its time to talk about nicholas

[turbid tangle]

as good as a T1 DD btw

[unborn dawn]

lemme ping yuni

for in depth explanation

[turbid tangle]

See she actually beats Laffey 1/4 of the time

[lilac wyvern]

take out dd gun

[turbid tangle]

very T1 contention amirite

[lilac wyvern]

way nicolas have 2 blue skill

pog

[modest meadow]

well yeah in disappointment tierlist

[unborn dawn]

@ebon whale we need your opinion

[ebon whale]

So laffey still beats her on average

And after looking at all these DD tests I’ve come to the personal conclusion that laffey is probably t2 material anyways

[unborn dawn]

[ebon whale]

Because she consistently underperforms

[jagged pendant]

[ebon whale]

But that’s another can of worms

[unborn dawn]

finally ectl laffey T2

like NGA

[ebon whale]

Any test that includes laffey in it results in us going like “why is laffey sucking”

Laffey has weird consistency issues which you wouldn’t expect from a gun DD

[turbid tangle]

12-4 arc begins

[lilac wyvern]

pausechamp

[ebon whale]

Also it’s 4:15AM I need to sleep you guys have fun

[sour mortar]

you realize my argument was that nicholas is higher than T5 right

not that nicholas is T1

[lilac wyvern]

wait she t5 nani

[sour mortar]

nice to see someone actually run something instead of just whining though

[ebon whale]

you’re the only one whining here

[sour mortar]

if you say so

keep those hands lubed up

[turbid tangle]

I don’t like the inconsistency eventhough i can shill Nicholas to death

[tulip pier]

[turbid tangle]

If you take it by %, then Laffey still has average 20% more damage than Nicholas even though she has a worse torp kekw

[ebon whale]

Nick does have significant eHP advantage tho

So you can easily gap the damage with offensive aux on Nick that you can’t so easily get away with on laffey

Another thing is that currently DD hierarchy is very smooth atm after the buffs

it’s not like pre buff where there were massive gaps between each tier

[modest meadow]

yuni u were supposed to sleep

[ebon whale]

[modest meadow]

dont ruin your health like this

[turbid tangle]

Next test dummy, wish her luck

nicholas vs laffey and gremmy pauser

she just happens to have +1 DD FP so I didn’t feel bad using xp packs

[modest meadow]

That skill isnt maxed test invalid

[turbid tangle]

it’s just 3% more FP, let it slide

[modest meadow]

no i live to nitpick

[ebon whale]

You shoulda done z24

She’s like the creme de la creme of purple gun DDs, alongside hanazuki I guess

Also stranger affinity SMH

[turbid tangle]

grim start

shit i might make a contention for Nick T4

[ebon whale]

considering skill level and affinity that means they’d be roughly equal

So yeah valid

Wait Nick also has significantly better AA

AA pad pausechamp

[turbid tangle]

11-3

[ebon whale]

in ch11 would you use 138.6 or 128

Grem has much worse torps so she’s reliant on gun to do anything to heavy, yet 128 sucks against heavy

While Nick torps are decent (not to mention she’s got the rainbow quints) so she’s got natural advantage there against heavy gear wise

[turbid tangle]

I take off Nick’s rainbow quint for more accurate testing

yeah and both have 128s

[ebon whale]

Goes back to about even taking skill level/affinity to account

[turbid tangle]

my logical explanation is the battle is too long, above 1m so naturally Grem falling off past 30s mark

[ebon whale]

true, this wouldn’t be a natural scenario for grem

[turbid tangle]

I’ll go to w9, aiming for 40-50s mobs to see

[ebon whale]

but still decent showing by Nick

And also I really do think laffey is just idk

She seems to stumble in practice a lot

[turbid tangle]

45s battle

so what i’m seeing is, Nick certainly has the ability to keep up with T4 gun DD damage

after the trp buff it seems

because her torps take up like half of her damage

[ebon whale]

I can do some tests tomorrow

I’ll try against some t3s, like hanazuki

[turbid tangle]

sleep well yuni i need to save oil somehow

i can test Hanazuki though, mine is SL10 oathed

[ebon whale]

Based

[turbid tangle]

yes

[ebon whale]

hanazuki more like hanacutie

[turbid tangle]

shit i’m out of xp books to rush her

honestly I don’t wanna do so

@sour mortar satisfied? Nick can keep up with T4s