zoa help

[zenith needle]

post dock

here

[tulip crane]

op

[zenith needle]

also current fleets if you got them

[tulip crane]

everything

[zenith needle]

uh

do rare+

commons are irrelevant

[surreal heron]

just post the whole dock

sort by level only

[zenith needle]

yeah sort by level

[surreal heron]

we'll work out fleets for w12 first

it's easier for campaign

[tulip crane]

on mobile so lots of ss

[zenith needle]

thats why we in a thread

[indigo loom]

yeah threads are a blessing for these things

[surreal heron]

thanks to threads we don't have to make you make an imgur

[surreal heron]

whew

alright

[zenith needle]

raj i think ams has to be the boss AA carry

[tulip crane]

there’s more :o

[surreal heron]

sam he said w12

so idc about aa carries

[indigo loom]

w12 is not that bad when it comes to that, specially with big levels

[zenith needle]

in any case
first off regardless of w12 you wanna level san fran up shes amazing

[surreal heron]

and guess what

dude has sandy

[tulip crane]

I guess I need a fleet for 13 as well

[indigo loom]

it's not w13 levels for sure

[zenith needle]

oh right i didn't see sandy cause skin

[surreal heron]

he already has the basic boss fleet

no need for ams

[indigo loom]

w13 you might need to level some other ships a bit

[tulip crane]

Which ones should I level

[indigo loom]

Sandy and Dido muse really help quite a bit with the AA part of it

Sandy more than anything specially against Taihou on 13-4

[surreal heron]

Boss: NJ Enty Essex - Roons/Heinrich Helena/Balti Sandy
Mobs: DPS Carrier(like aquila preload mode, strasser/graf, any essex, sara) Percy + Ryuuhou/Aquila in fighter mode - Minneapolis/Neptune Shimakaze Sirius

you'll want to level up SF like sam said

[zenith needle]

sf is pog

[surreal heron]

chesh would be great if you can get her to atleast dev20

[zenith needle]

you don't need her, but shes pog, and you need 24 ships for opsi as well

[tulip crane]

What about my Ironblood ships

People say that PH is a better tank than Roon

[indigo loom]

planes go boon on IB

[zenith needle]

ph is better than roon

[surreal heron]

ye ye i forgot about her

[zenith needle]

like straight up lol

[surreal heron]

use her over roons

[zenith needle]

should have said room/hein smh

[indigo loom]

well it depends room has the slow, damage amp and is not ammo locked

[surreal heron]

i fixed it way before you said that

[tulip crane]

and that’s for w12?

[surreal heron]

and w13

[tulip crane]

my gear isn’t that good

[surreal heron]

well for w13 you would try to get chesh dev20min or isuzu or reno instead of shima

but

yea

[zenith needle]

just use ams raj

would be way easier to get up

[surreal heron]

im listing options

[indigo loom]

there is also dido muse

[surreal heron]

just say or ams

smh

[zenith needle]

if dido muse isn't mlb i wouldn't consider her over ams

[tulip crane]

also why Sirius

[surreal heron]

consider that w13 is probably a while aways anyways

[zenith needle]

sirius buffs your CVs

and your backline is CVs in the mob fleet

[surreal heron]

sirius has good dmg + good aa + good cv buffs

[zenith needle]

and sirius got decent stats

so its like a two for one thing

[tulip crane]

i’m at 11-3 rn

[zenith needle]

w11 fleets are pretty diff from w12+

[surreal heron]

use a bb instead of the dps carrier

so like your bismarck

[tulip crane]

That’s great because I wanna use my IB

[surreal heron]

i do see you really like kms backliners so
bisko + strasser + graf is also very viable for the boss fleet main

[tulip crane]

But now I need to level more ships

[surreal heron]

i was planning to mention it early

[tulip crane]

I have been putting NJ in boss fleet

Just because of her skills

[surreal heron]

yea she's really good

[zenith needle]

if you wanna run the full german backline for boss, nj in mobs is a no brainer

[tulip crane]

Okay so that’s two fleets is there any more I should make

[surreal heron]

that's all you need for campaign

it's totally different for opsiren

and there's also a lot more leveling you would need

[tulip crane]

I just did random for opsiren but I don’t really understand it

I want to farm gear for the gear lab but have no idea how to really do it tbh

[surreal heron]

worry about gears from research more than gear lab

[indigo loom]

one of the biggest advices I can give you about OpSi is use Perseus

[tulip crane]

i always use her for mob fleet

[indigo loom]

that's really important, when farming OpSi mob isn't a concern and having battles take less than 20s is not uncommon when farming, most healers won't get to airstrike to heal

so she's essential

[tulip crane]

k so i should level and mlb dido muse, san fran, and neptune

i have a bunch of the new xp packs so i can just max their level but they would have weak skills

[indigo loom]

dido muse is probably not essential though she's really useful when it comes to AA carrying, specially since she also packs an AA vanguard buff of her own, so you can give a try on W13 and see if you have enough AA to do it or not

W13 is a big AA and dps check

[zenith needle]

dido muse isn't necessary with the options he has

[indigo loom]

yeah thought that could be the case

[surreal heron]

didos ams etc are recommended but not needed

[surreal heron]

yea looks great

[indigo loom]

yeah

[tulip crane]

ppl said chapayev is really good for mob

[surreal heron]

chappy is a pretty great ship yea

[tulip crane]

could i maybe replace neptune with her, since i have no coins to max her

[indigo loom]

I just worry a bit over survival since she's not as tanky

although she's not squishy by CL standards either

[tulip crane]

and if running NJ in mob fleet should i swap sirius since there’s not 3 carriers to buff

[surreal heron]

since it's just w11/12 you ease up alot so you can use like

shima

or yuu

or like chappy monty or sf

[indigo loom]

that's also a consideration, although it's not too bad having 2 CVs to buff

yeah w12 is not as strict, specially if you are overleveled

[surreal heron]

if you understand what a ship does and where they fit
the fleets i built you are like
ideal type of endgame fleets you want to follow

with like dps healers support/healer tank support support/dps

put nj in flag

switch sf and roon

[tulip crane]

I probably could replace Roon u with Dido muse

[surreal heron]

it's fine

you are finishing w11 so no need

[indigo loom]

2 CVs and 2 healers should be plenty to keep you alive on mob

[surreal heron]

also, make sure aquila is in dps mode right now, aka dive bomber in the middle

[surreal heron]

yep

looks good

[indigo loom]

yeah

[tulip crane]

so not in heal mode

percy will carry with heals

[indigo loom]

if you have another tank better to put SF on the back to give damage buffs instead

[tulip crane]

is the positioning for this fleet good

[indigo loom]

like what you did now

[zenith needle]

yeah this is fine

no changes needed

[surreal heron]

it's perfect

[indigo loom]

all good

[tulip crane]

oh yeah sf and the wall of text skills

[zenith needle]

lemme tldr sf

so first red skill is just 75% chance to fire barrage fired every 15 seconds

[indigo loom]

yeah I figured it would be good to mention it

[zenith needle]

so nothing especially out of the ordinary

then second skill says

[surreal heron]

basically
tanky if left most
heals vanguard if middle
dps if offtank right most

[tulip crane]

off tank is most right position?

[zenith needle]

yeah

[tulip crane]

hmm

[surreal heron]

you have roon to tank

and you generally want to make sf offtank

so yea

[tulip crane]

should i put roon gun on her

[zenith needle]

why roon tank

when muse roon and hein exist

[indigo loom]

yeah, is a weird spot to put her though, she's bulky and you'd rather put your squishier ship there and the heal is kinda meh

[zenith needle]

muse roon isn't gun locked, but roon gun is fine for w12+

hein you can run the triple 283 large cruiser gun

[tulip crane]

for sf

[zenith needle]

roon gun on sf is fine for w12+

[surreal heron]

he has roon muse there

im just reffering to roon in general

look at his fleets man

[indigo loom]

roon gun doesn't really stop being fine rn tbh, the pr3 gun is just better but roon gun is never bad exactly

so don't fret too much over it

well I guess except on boss against light armor

only then you should pick something else

[surreal heron]

twin 234 would be better than triple203skc against light boss

[tulip crane]

idk what armor the bosses are or how to really tell that

[surreal heron]

if you have triple 203mle or twin 203mle/twin 203 3rd year those are great against light as well

[surreal heron]

use toolbox instead of filter

since we are on the topic of gears

Nerezza's slot by slot guide: https://imgur.com/a/TNpH1rL
Rajaku and Usagi Hole Gear Guides: https://imgur.com/a/8W3kC1x
Slime TL: https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[indigo loom]

yeah exactly

[tulip crane]

[indigo loom]

you eventually somehow memorize the names/images for all relevant guns in the game

[surreal heron]

12-2 is a light armored boss so refer to what i said earlier

otherwise just stick to the triple 203skc/twin 234s/your ap guns

hein would also refer to the light guns i mentioned earlier

the guides will tell you the options

[tulip crane]

i might level dido u over sandy, because i am tired of sandy

[surreal heron]

sure sure

just sandy is very good for w13 so when doing that make sure to have gotten her up

[indigo loom]

sandy is not only great at going pew pew on the planes but what makes her stand out compared to others is the AA buff she gives to the whole fleet, it's pretty unique since it buffs even main fleet

[surreal heron]

she has very good dps herself

[indigo loom]

and damage dealt by planes is directly related to AA so the planes that do go through do less damage too

[tulip crane]

hmm

[indigo loom]

yeah a CL with DD guns with MGM +1 sure does

Dido u has less dps for sure

[tulip crane]

but my fleet should change at 13?

or will they be the same

[zenith needle]

w12 and w13 fleets can be same

[surreal heron]

the fleets i made earlier are your w13 fleets

[zenith needle]

its just 12-2 boss needs guns to change cause boss armor type changes

[tulip crane]

o

[zenith needle]

thats literally the only diff

[surreal heron]

so like your current fleets are fine for w11 and 12
just when doing w13 use what i made

not much to change there but yea

[tulip crane]

is enty really that good still

[surreal heron]

yes

[indigo loom]

yeah she is

[surreal heron]

still one of the best

[tulip crane]

and like what level should i be for 13

when i get there

[surreal heron]

you want most of your ships 120

[tulip crane]

will i run into trouble if not 120

[surreal heron]

some 115 is fine

[zenith needle]

115 is possible if you got good enough gear

[tulip crane]

[zenith needle]

but 120 is safer and gives more consistent clears

[tulip crane]

k so lots of grinding to do

[surreal heron]

it's just the boss fleet that you should want to get almost all 120

[zenith needle]

my fleets averaged lvl 115, but i had like really really good gear so i was able to manage

you seem like you got good gear so 115 should be fine, but ofc 120 makes it easier

[tulip crane]

i should prioritize washing machine for the boss fleet ships right

[zenith needle]

yes

[surreal heron]

yes

[zenith needle]

especially gold ones

[indigo loom]

yes

[surreal heron]

boss fleet has priority for your best gears

[zenith needle]

generally rule of thumb is boss fleets get best gear

[tulip crane]

idk what second aux for mob ships should be then

i have double rainbow torp on shimikaze

[surreal heron]

toolboxes and blue camo/blue steering gears

[tulip crane]

blue camo/steering?

which ones better or does it not matter

[indigo loom]

don't forget to give beaver badge/cosmic kicks to your tank/offtank on boss

[tulip crane]

i have it on boss

[indigo loom]

cool, CAs really appreciate the extra eva

going double eva gear on them helps a lot

[surreal heron]

blue camo and steering gear are like

[zenith needle]

doesn't matter

[surreal heron]

the exact same

[zenith needle]

like its the exact same stats

[tulip crane]

o

[zenith needle]

like its only faction thats diff

and faction being diff for this gear specifically doesn't matter

lol

[tulip crane]

ty for all the help

[zenith needle]

no problem

come back if you have questions

ask in the main #gameplay-help channel tho if you come back in >10 minutes