how to bombcalc

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send a ss

i'll walk you through it

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🙏

I mean this

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oh well i can use my own too actually

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this is teh details page

and this is HMS

so I gotta add both, right? for a total of 16?

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you can click on the tech button here instead too

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oh................

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mine gives +21 so my inputs would be

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hm it only says +13, wild

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afaik it's not updated for lv125 yet so you gotta manual reload if that's your situation

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ye

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otherwise it'll work fine

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it's just 2 extra rld apparently?

this is right.... right?

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yup

there ya go

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hmmm

so about the clusky thing, is there any other cool option?

asking mainly cuz meta fight isn't the only place I use ark on and I'd rather not have to touch my ship's gear

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it's the general go-to when helldiver is too slow but suisei is too fast

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ic

so even outside of meta fight it's a good plane all around?

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not exactly

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ah

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it's only notable in this meta fight because Souryuu is a CV

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wait is the bombcalc counting planes as +10 or what

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was useful for Hiryuu and Ark for the same reasons

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ye I cna see that

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+13 only increases damage so a +10 and +13 plane are effectively equivalent for the calc's purpose

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ik but

it could be +9, but the calc doesn't let you specify any of that

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oh that's what you mean

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I assume they count them at +10

there's no mention of it

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yeah they're +10

you should be able to tweak the calc if you need. Just check the figure in the depot (not equipped on a ship)

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ye

clusky gets teh right timing... if a bit on the edge

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give it a go

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as in use it?

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the calc just gives you confidence that it should work basically. It's still best to actually demo it in game

i've found that having a secondary source of slow actually distorts your timing windows, too

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hm I'll have to get them cluskies cuz I have 0 rn

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it'll be in core shop

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ye I saw it

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another option is uhhh

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I have roon u, would that be bad? lol

I'm not timing her slow at all

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i haven't tried room specifically but it might affect things. hence "you should try it"

i have had it where San Fran messes with my timings

and i've seen Centaur do it too

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hmm

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what were you gonna say? lol

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831 Barracuda is another mid-speed option

had to look it up again lmao

it's what i have on my shouk rn but that's just my Ark being stupid fast

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hm

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tactical oaths biting me

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with ark being on 21.8 I feel

shinano might start missing

cuz she has to fire after ark

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that's my firing sequence and i don't have issues really

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hm

but then again

shinano has never been an issue

it's only shoukaku thatm isses for whatever reason

she's even using the german homing topr which from what I heard should have a better time hittin than ryusei?

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it's probably just that you're too fast to hit Souryuu's slow/stopped movement patterns

the 21.5-21.9 figure is centered around those

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ye

I've been ignoring what the boss does entirely

only focusing on my own timings

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21.52s on my Enty (no Beacon)
22.15 on my Ark (Beacon)
22.27 on my Shinano (Beacon)

100% hitrate

these are in-game figures

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22.1? isn't it a bit too slow

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beacon makes it fast enough

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ah that's the in-game time

then that means

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yeah, beacon isn't factored on displayed IGT

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your ark is firing before your shoukaku, isn't she

beacon should be almost 1s

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i don't have a shouk

i have an enty

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ohhhhhhh you use enty

mb

reading muzukashi

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Shouk is 21.97s with beacon

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I used to have enty too but I swapped to shoukaku

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maybe i could mcclusky lemme check that

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the dmg did go up even with shoukaku's missing in consideration, from enty

buff stronk

things should get even better after I get kaza

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ayyy lmao

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nice skin

tfw my shoukaku who's 124 has lower base reload than the site's 120...

her affinity is like 90 rn I think

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yeah affinity affects that

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mm

zooming

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hype

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thoughts on gear change?

for starters I could ryusei I guess

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for shouk? whatever gets her as close to mine as you can manage really.

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and clusky too, I guess?

hm

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22.13s with beacon on IG display seems perfect

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basically just clusky lol

I'll have to wait an entire month to get that tho...

actually

her timing with her current gear does good

if I remove beacon

for no that'll be it I guess

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mm, lmk how it goes

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now I guess I gotta check shinano timing

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oh, the 831 is kinda funny because armor break. That's another reason i was using it, but it's not gonna be as consistent as the Mcclusky tl;dr

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isn't armor break useless if you don't have bbs?

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it increases all shelling damage

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hm

also just for the record but ark, shokaku and shinano, none of them have rld boosting skills right

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more relevant if you're using Drake tbh but yeah

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cd reduction and all that

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correct

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aight

hm shinano if I just remove the beacon she also meets the timing

or I can get a better plane

beacon and clusky

no beacon suisei2

and here comes a 2 month timegate

therefore I stop using beacon for now lol

let's go for some assist testruns

speaking of which, what's helena's max timing again?

isn't 22s~ a bit too slow for like, the 3rd airstrike?

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https://gfycat.com/biodegradablesafeamericanwigeon

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ye

so it's all ok

close to my peak dmg as a first attempt, very nice

just to make sure I'm not being a monkey, there's no way to go straight to meta showdown screen is there... you gotta get to opsi then out of the map then into showdown everytime?

also oops I forgot to swap roon with sanfran

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yeah demo out a few vanguards too

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I think I just saw torpedoes missing

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and yeah UI is bad

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ye somethig definitely missed

is this supposed to consistent most of the time or all the time? lol

pretty good all things considered but anyways

something's not right here

I think shoukaku only fired before ark on the 1st wave

but that sounds.... impossible?

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that's after you switched to SF?

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erm I STILL forgot to do that lmaooo

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does your ark have beacon?

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yeah

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idk then

don't think it's possible

that's also probably within expected deviation

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I'm judging based on the person that shows up for skill anim tho

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Helena and Ark both are big RNG swings

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shoukaku at 96 affinity

I should finish that up to 100

what's your current meta fight team

and does your vanguard live throuhg every fight?

despite using sanfran 1st and roon u 3rd I saw my vanguard die with 2s left, granted that doesn't change my dmg dealt but...

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yup

azuma and ariake sink after they've done what's needed

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ah so they die too

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last like 10s

so ariake gives ARA for last strike and Azuma misses like... 1 gunshot

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ye