airstrike timing help for dollfin | Azur Lane Official | Page 1

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:44 AM

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mine looks like this and it's fine WarShrug it could be a lot of things and i think it's just easiest to look

flat geyser Oct 4, 2021, 1:46 AM

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right; I'm using tenzan kais bc i dont have enough ryuseis MonarchSad
shouldnt be an issue tho bc they have pretty much the exact same fire rate

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other than that tho its pretty much equivalent

wicked quail Oct 4, 2021, 1:46 AM

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that setup look good so far

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how about enty and centaur

flat geyser Oct 4, 2021, 1:47 AM

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she does fire second; is that an issue?

wicked quail Oct 4, 2021, 1:47 AM

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no

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:47 AM

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idk why you're not just screencapping it

wicked quail Oct 4, 2021, 1:47 AM

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she just needed to launch after centaur

flat geyser Oct 4, 2021, 1:47 AM

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wicked quail she just needed to launch after centaur

does centaur's slow need to proc for this to hit

wicked quail Oct 4, 2021, 1:47 AM

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no

flat geyser Oct 4, 2021, 1:48 AM

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because the boss always seems to start moving ~.5 seconds before torps hit

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:48 AM

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ive heard from some ppl

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and this has happend to me sometimes

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where using ark messing up timings cause of ark slow

flat geyser Oct 4, 2021, 1:48 AM

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any fix for that?

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:48 AM

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i think it'd be the combination of ark+centaur if anything. i've had no problems with solo ark

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:48 AM

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ive had issues with shinano enty ark

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and shinano shoukek ark

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thats why i run shinano enty shoukek atm

flat geyser Oct 4, 2021, 1:49 AM

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does shou have a slow?

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:49 AM

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shoukek doesn't

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:49 AM

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never had problems with first launch regardless; it's usually third that's finnicky but my setup does fine

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:49 AM

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shoukek is just strictly a buffer

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she also has decent damage as well with 150% x 4 NepSmug

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:50 AM

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shouk just there to be an ijn name honestly

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:50 AM

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NimiYes

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:52 AM

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like. no universe this misses for me

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and i've used every combination of planes and 120 and 125 comps

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:52 AM

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hmm

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:52 AM

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so there's something hidden to me which is why i want screencaps lol

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:52 AM

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lemme record a run and show you

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you using san fran?

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:53 AM

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why would i

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you need two IJN in vanguard without shouk

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:53 AM

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oh right mb

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yea lemme record the run brb

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:53 AM

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also not sure how san fran's relevant to anything

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:54 AM

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i thought san fran barrage had a slow PortDoll idk why

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it doesn't btw i just checked wiki

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:54 AM

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yeah ik

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that's fine

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:54 AM

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ah rip im outta attempts today

vagrant hornet Oct 4, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Oh so is this wrong then?

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:54 AM

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wait MutsukiHyperStare

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:55 AM

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ThinkZed

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:55 AM

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is that why im missing

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:55 AM

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hmm, weird the skill description doesn't mention it

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:55 AM

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yeah

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:55 AM

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but yea it's in riceist's sheet too so it's true

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uhhhh maybe? I kinda doubt it'd make a difference but i can try your comp if you want sam

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just lmk what it is

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:56 AM

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shinano shoukek ark san fran helena kaza

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try that

copper summit Oct 4, 2021, 1:57 AM

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how much rld fleet tech do you have sam?

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:58 AM

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8

copper summit Oct 4, 2021, 1:58 AM

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I have the exact same comp and shoukek misses her first strike WarBlank need to readjust planes

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:58 AM

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this is my setup ChampyXD

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glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:59 AM

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i'll try my best to match timings but obvi my shit's fast as fuck

vagrant hornet Oct 4, 2021, 1:59 AM

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SAD Damn, that's the no oath FR

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 1:59 AM

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yeah no oaths

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according to bombs calc my shoukek is .05 sec faster than ark WarShrug

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actually nvm more like .1 but around there

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:00 AM

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125 update gave me +4 reload tech lmao

copper summit Oct 4, 2021, 2:00 AM

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what's the window for the air strikes to hit Mouryuu again?

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:00 AM

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21.5 to 21.7

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well thats for the in game time

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on bombs calc he accounts for the .1 sec abs cooldown so its more like 21.6 to 21.8 there i think

vagrant hornet Oct 4, 2021, 2:01 AM

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HMMMM_lum Yeah, idk about you guys but 21.86 Ark FR works perfectly for me.

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:01 AM

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hmm

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yeah 21.86 might land stuff

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:01 AM

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is there a reason you're not using beacons

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:02 AM

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but its too slow for 3rd helena i think

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cause i was able to run enty with saiun at like 22.3 seconds or something and she was landing literally everything EntyLUL

vagrant hornet Oct 4, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Ehhssex Is this without 3rd Helena cuz Shinano is pretty shit then

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:02 AM

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MutsukiHyperStare

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ive never gotten over 300k on any of my CVs

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tbf i don't have +13 planes on every slot but

copper summit Oct 4, 2021, 2:03 AM

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I need more rockets MonarchSad

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:03 AM

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oh right i need to +13 my bf109 asap

vagrant hornet Oct 4, 2021, 2:04 AM

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But from OP's question, you should just test timing around especially when we know nothing about your fleet comp/gear atm.

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:05 AM

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i asked for screencaps multiple times and got ghosted so WarShrug

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this is a sam help thread now

vagrant hornet Oct 4, 2021, 2:05 AM

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EssexToot

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:06 AM

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third airstrike whiffed, as made evident by Ark's pitiful damage

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but first was totally fine

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actually changed nothing but shoukaku over Enty and San Fran over Azuma so i think it does have an effect

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lemme rewatch second strike too just to be sure

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second strike is 100% hit

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third strike meanwhile

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https://gfycat.com/biodegradablesafeamericanwigeon receipt for the enty config success. All three strikes included

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It don't miss

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https://streamable.com/f162g3

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and there's first strike with shoukaku

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no misses WarShrug

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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its reasonable to hit on all the stops yeah

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but does it sync with third helena?

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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glossy zinc actually changed nothing but shoukaku over Enty and San Fran over Azuma so i thi...

well yeah

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my Ark has a ton of room to get faster. I have to slow her down to hit the third stop if anything

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same with enty

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In game FR values are:
Shinano: 22.27 (beacon)
Enty: 21.52 (no beacon)
Ark: 22.15 (beacon)

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:15 AM

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hmm NagaThonk

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:16 AM

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it's possible i'm missing the tail end of the third strike. hard to see because lots of numbers / i'm not positive on when the window actually closes

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but i don't really think so 'cause i get > 1m without god luck

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think bombcalc puts my ark at like 21.4 cooldown

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which is "too fast" still but it works

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:17 AM

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huh

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:18 AM

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65.57 tells me she's hitting the window

copper summit Oct 4, 2021, 2:19 AM

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21 rld BuckyPride

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:19 AM

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oh my enty is last tho so i'll check that

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yeah seems fine

copper summit Oct 4, 2021, 2:20 AM

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yata, can I see what planes you have on them?

topaz zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Ehhssex

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its listed in the calc

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copper summit Oct 4, 2021, 2:21 AM

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other girls xD

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:21 AM

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well you have those two

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Shinano it's Ryuusei Helldiver D-4

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i prob could go double ryuusei. Or maybe golddiver on Enty

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in any case, lots of variance and flexibility, especially when you tactical oath

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I need more rocket fighters MonarchSad

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actually shin doesn't seem able to use it and still time well

copper summit Oct 4, 2021, 2:23 AM

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I need 10 more rld to be fast af WarBlank

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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i'd have to use some weird divebomber like the firefly or 831

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but double ryuusei hits just after enty so it should be fine still

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neat

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oooooh that's why i did it this way. Only two +13 Ryuusei

flat geyser Oct 4, 2021, 2:50 AM

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So I fixed it by replacing centaur with warspite WarShrug

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I don't even know at this point

glossy zinc Oct 4, 2021, 2:52 AM

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doesn't sound fixed

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but the slow seems to have been the problem ig

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wowwy

flat geyser Oct 4, 2021, 3:32 AM

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ok, did some more testing... ig that it maybe was that they were firing after centaur and that was delaying them? shouldnt have been an issue but what do I know

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