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wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 6:56 PM

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dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 6:56 PM

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thanks

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Airstrike Cooldown: 22.94s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 24.44s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 24.44, 47.37, 70.31

shina with rocket, 3bc saiun

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enty with rocket 3bc, ryuusei
Airstrike Cooldown: 22.45s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 23.95s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 23.95, 46.39, 68.84

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3rd backline is NJ with champy gun

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CV reload tech wise im at 7 reload, and for the CV
loadout i have 6 ryuusei, 2 Junkers, 1 Saiun, 2 rockets

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what would be the sweet spot for mouryuu fight

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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yeah you don't wanna use NJ

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using NJ with double CV messes up timings

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even if the CVs launch right after NJ shoots

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id think its impossible for them to sync

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either run full BB or full CV imo

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:05 PM

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mix would be always worse?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:06 PM

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yeah imo it would

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Screenshot_2021-09-26-02-06-27-64_41be58ba4732ca6a1097a3b2524cd3ac.jpg

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:07 PM

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cause running NJ makes your timings wack, unless the NJ is fast, but then NJ wouldn't sync with helena at all

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oh easy

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shinano cranes is the way to go

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:07 PM

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tho enty damage?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:07 PM

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idk honestly NagaThonk

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but shinano shoukaku zuikaku/enty is the comp you should run

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reason i say shinano cranes is cause i think that was a 1 mil comp on auto by some guy

ashen sparrow Sep 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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shina cranes is very strong, yeh

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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plus the avi buff to shoukek + zuikek coupled with shinanos 15% buff to everyone i would think makes overall damage better than enty shoukaku

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or at least more consistent

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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now the next caveat, i only have 2 rockets

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so what should i put for shoukaku

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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shoukek and zuikek should get them

ashen sparrow Sep 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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whatever you need to make her go first

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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also yeah do what you need to do to shoukeks first 2 slots to make her go first

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id think rocket 12a beacon should be enough

ashen sparrow Sep 25, 2021, 7:11 PM

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tho yeh, you could go converging on shinanos fighter slot instead, and rockets on shou and zui. Should be the better version

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Airstrike Cooldown: 23.11s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 24.61s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 24.61, 47.72, 70.83

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:13 PM

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for who?

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but that seems too slow

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:13 PM

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shoukaku with standard rocket, gold diver and ryuusei

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:13 PM

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yeah

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gotta gimp the db slot

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and maybe run saiun in the torpedo bomber slot

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try rocket 12a ryuusei?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Airstrike Cooldown: 22.33s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 23.83s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 23.83, 46.15, 68.48
with saiun

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still on slow end?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:16 PM

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gotta gimp the dive bomber

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thats still slow

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Airstrike Cooldown: 22.66s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 24.16s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 24.16, 46.81, 69.47

fuck i forgot i didn't oath cranes yet

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firefly its 23.74 first launch cd is 22.24

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:17 PM

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dapper kernel Airstrike Cooldown: 22.33s Airstrike First Cooldown: 23.83s Airstrike Launch Tim...

actually this should be fine

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my bad

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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no sam that's with oath

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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but if you got oathed shinano then its not

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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the real timing is the slower one

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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my shoukek is at 22.35 airstrike cooldown and its fine

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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and shinanois oathed

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Can try Junker if you need fine adjustment ig

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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fuuuuck

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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so yeah if shinano is oathed you need like a 21 sec shoukaku probably

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Yeah get yourself a comet at least

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:19 PM

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you might need to also run pirate and ditch rocket

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:19 PM

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pirate firefly,saiun 23.05 second

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:19 PM

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or be like me and run the messershit

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don't use firefly

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Comet?

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Or comet gear lab upgrade

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:19 PM

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firefly too fast

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your dive bombers should be one of these 4

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if its not you got no chance of syncing

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:20 PM

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firefly is +9 at 10.67 second

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:21 PM

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not fast enough

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also thats only on shoukaku

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Do you have a comet

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:21 PM

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reload on equipped planes is misleading

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:21 PM

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i scrap all

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because the plane sucks i thought there's no need

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:21 PM

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open royal boxes for a fulmar

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or check depot --> craft

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:22 PM

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fulmar +6 i have

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:22 PM

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yeah +10 it

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Airstrike Cooldown: 21.14s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 22.64s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 22.64, 43.79, 64.93

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:22 PM

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there

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that looks good

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Screenshot_2021-09-26-02-22-47-81_41be58ba4732ca6a1097a3b2524cd3ac.jpg

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:23 PM

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are you sure the calculator accounted for +6 and not +10

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and you gotta unequip the fulmar and use the unequipped reload to put into the calc btw

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:24 PM

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i used the plane FR

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:24 PM

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pog

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:24 PM

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inputting the seconds

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:24 PM

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well depending on shinano and zuikaku timings you might have to +10 PortDoll

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:25 PM

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that's for shoukaku

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now zuikaku

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:25 PM

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do shinano first

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shinano harder to sync so we gotta check her first

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but iirc rocket better for shinano slot 1 than a torpedo bomber

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:26 PM

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btw for the seconds i should input from the FR?

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since the timing for +13 in game with bombz calc is different

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:27 PM

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input from your game

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unequip the rocket

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and use that time in the calc

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Airstrike Cooldown: 20.15s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 21.65s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 21.65, 41.80, 61.95
shoukaku timing with pirate, fulmar, saiun

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:28 PM

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pog

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what about shinano?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:28 PM

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nvm forgot she's not oathed...

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UniHurt

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:28 PM

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well its fine

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even not oath shoukaku based off those oath times should be fine

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Ftr game does round what is displayed so you may notice tiny difference between calc and final in-game
Esp in cases of oathed ships

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:29 PM

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this shinano setup should work

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Airstrike Cooldown: 21.27s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 22.77s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 22.77, 44.04, 65.31

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i use double ryuusei

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:30 PM

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rocket better in slot 1

ashen sparrow Sep 25, 2021, 7:30 PM

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He's limited on rockets

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:30 PM

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yeah but shoukaku isn't using a rocket cause timing

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so since he got 2 rockets

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they should go on shinano zuikek then

ashen sparrow Sep 25, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Oh well, then yeh

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Airstrike Cooldown: 20.95s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 22.45s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 22.45, 43.39, 64.34

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rocket, gold diver, ryuusei shinano

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 7:31 PM

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What's purple diver timing

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:32 PM

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idk since purple diver i had at +8 at best

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:32 PM

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that should be fine on shinano NagaThonk

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Yeah you'll need to enhance your fulmar prolly

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For Shōkaku

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:35 PM

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in game says 20.95/wave while bombz calc

Airstrike Cooldown: 19.76s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 21.26s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 21.26, 41.03, 60.79

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shoukaku at +10 fulmar/pirate/saiun

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:35 PM

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ight

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that looks good

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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dapper kernel Airstrike Cooldown: 20.95s Airstrike First Cooldown: 22.45s Airstrike Launch Tim...

this for shinano

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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yeah thats fine

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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so shoukaku and shinano sorted out

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now zuikaku

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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you can run a normal zuikaku setup, but you gotta use beacon i think

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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or enty

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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id use zuikaku

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Airstrike Cooldown: 21.26s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 22.76s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 22.76, 44.01, 65.27, 86.53

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zuikaku with rocket,gold diver and ryuusei

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with beacon

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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thats perfect

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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(god im broke in gold)

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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that should work

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make sure to check the in game times so that shoukaku is first, but zuikaku and shinano are close

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:45 PM

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shinano says 22.84 per wave
zuikaku 23.49 per wave
shoukaku 20.95 per wave

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23.49 without beacon included i guess

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:46 PM

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yeah

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:46 PM

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for vanguard i use SF, helena sirius btw

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:46 PM

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thats fine

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although zuikaku seems way to slow in game compared to the calc

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:48 PM

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ight im doing support battle

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to test

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first stop, a bit messy

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:48 PM

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was it too fast?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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yeah, 2nd is also only shoukaku on time and shinano a bit late

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Screenshot_2021-09-26-02-49-33-80_41be58ba4732ca6a1097a3b2524cd3ac.jpg

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:50 PM

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so keep shoukaku setup

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and shinano run suisei dive bomber NagaThonk

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 7:52 PM

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What about replacing Shinano tb with Junkers?

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Very slight timing difference but

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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my junkers only +9 and +7

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and i ran out of purple plate.... great

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the problem is on shinano's timing i guess?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:57 PM

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probably

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although was zuikaku missing?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:57 PM

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not much from the looks of it

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btw what buff does sirius give to CV's again?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 7:59 PM

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10% avi

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but also 10% hit against DD, CL, CA

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 7:59 PM

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but this case only avi

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:00 PM

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ye

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thats why kaza would be better

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cause kaza/other ara is 15% damage dealt

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:01 PM

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she's at lvl 50 ish

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fuuuuuuck

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:01 PM

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you got curlew?

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potter?

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ariake?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:01 PM

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curlew lvl 99 all skill lvl 1

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CheshireXD

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:03 PM

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you know what

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thats workable

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just get her to lvl 105+

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and retrofit

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:03 PM

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she's already retrofitted, problem is lvl 1 skill

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:04 PM

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yeah so while shes getting up to lvl 105+ you can level skills

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:04 PM

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im gonna work on kazagumo slowly

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:04 PM

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ARA only works while they're alive I think

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Jsyk

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:04 PM

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yeah

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thats true

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but i think curlew should be able to live enough

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:04 PM

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while like sirius if she dies the buff still applied right?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:04 PM

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at lvl 105+

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i think so, but im not 100% sure with sirius

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also btw give sirius and helena sextuple bofors

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helps keep stuff hidden

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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95% certain Sirius buff stays after death

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Have been using mine as sac in guild boss because of that

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:06 PM

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oko

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switched sextuple to helena and sirius

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flagship position doesn't matter right?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:07 PM

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shinano flag

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and i think shoukaku should be left

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mainly cause position affects launch order

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:07 PM

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shit, shoukaku was on right

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:07 PM

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but i forgot whether right or left launches first

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it only matters when timings are close, but since you got oathed shinano they will be close later in the fight

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:08 PM

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i'll try 2nd support attempt

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interesting... so 1st wave shoukaku is spot on, shinano kinda 75/25 hit/miss and zuikaku not that good. 2nd wave zuikaku is 2nd and shinano is 3rd

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Screenshot_2021-09-26-03-10-17-15_41be58ba4732ca6a1097a3b2524cd3ac.jpg

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the damage is super ass btw UniHurt

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@ashen sparrow welp... so far not too good

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:15 PM

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are you too fast or too slow?

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or is your game lagging and thats throwing off timings

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:15 PM

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its kinda laggy but only at the end part

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then again, shinano hits perfectly on 3rd wave

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and zuikaku

ashen sparrow Sep 25, 2021, 8:16 PM

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1st wave? 2nd and 3rd have pretty big window

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:16 PM

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1st wave shoukaku ryuusei is quite good yet half of shinano's ryuusei kinda missed

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Screenshot_2021-09-26-03-21-41-96_41be58ba4732ca6a1097a3b2524cd3ac.jpg

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a bit better

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but the damage is still lackluster compared to NJ, enty, shinano

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:24 PM

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i see

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:25 PM

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@wispy cliff @gritty geyser the funny thing about NJ enty shinano is that NJ usually deals the most damage around 200k-275k ish. meanwhile enty around 150k to 225k at best.. shinano around 125k to 155k

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so combined. 600k is a guaranteed, at best 775k ish

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:28 PM

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interesting NagaThonk

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your shinano is whiffing a bit tho in that comp

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:28 PM

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@dapper kernel what's the timing issue you're trying to solve?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:28 PM

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3 CV comp vs mouryuu

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:28 PM

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specifically shinano cranes

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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What did you try and what didn't work about it?

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those three can't 4strike, so your best bet is to 3strike comp it

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Airstrike Cooldown: 21.26s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 22.76s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 22.76, 44.01, 65.27, 86.53
zuikaku with rocket,gold diver and ryuusei
with beacon

Airstrike Cooldown: 19.76s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 21.26s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 21.26, 41.03, 60.79
shoukaku at +10 fulmar/pirate/saiun

Airstrike Cooldown: 20.95s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 22.45s
Airstrike Launch Timers: 22.45, 43.39, 64.34
rocket, gold diver, ryuusei shinano

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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what's wrong with this setup and why does it not work

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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3 strike comp it is

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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also that shoukaku setup looks very sus

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why fulmar

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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oathed shinano not oathed cranes

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:30 PM

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that makes it easier tbh

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your shoukaku is launching a full second before the others according to that numer

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idk why you're using a fulmar

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seems entirely unnecessary

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:30 PM

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so its too fast?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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I suggested Comet and he didn't have it

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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yeah i had lack of equipments since i thought most are useless

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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being too fast isn't that big of an issue since its a 12 sec window so as long as the torpedo bomber is hitting its fine id would imagine

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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dapper kernel so its too fast?

it's not that it's too fast

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it's that fulmar does no damage

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you only use it for speed

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and it appears you don't need it

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again, I'm not sure what the issue you're asking is

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Why does your setup not work as you'd like it to work?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Gold Helldiver wasn't timing right with his Shinano according to calcs earlier

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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don't use goldiver then

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comet or comet kai

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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I told him Comet alr and he said had none

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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can just open gold ijn boxes PortDoll

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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fairey firefly

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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like

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again

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though

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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ehh firefly?

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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What's the actual question

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What's the question

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you asked me for help but you still have yet to explain why what you tried is not syncing properly

devout tartan Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Are you trying to hit the sweet spot for 3 strike team?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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He wants to do high dmg auto CV setup

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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yeah yuni thats correct PortDoll

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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@devout tartan ye he is

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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You've just dumped a bunch of equipment at me

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you haven't explained why the setup you're currently using does not work

devout tartan Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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The sweet spot is around 21.5-21.85s strike time

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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actually trying to do comp that does high damage, BB or CV is really just a suggestion from you guys

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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devout tartan The sweet spot is around 21.5-21.85s strike time

with what plane travel speed

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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heady lava you haven't explained why the setup you're currently using does not work

strike 2 is missing partially apparently

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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since it's going to be different for ryusei, ju87d4, and saiun

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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shinano says 22.84 per wave
zuikaku 23.49 per wave
shoukaku 20.95 per wave
23.49 without beacon included

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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I can help you teak your strike times but I don't actually know what the sweetspot dalao timing is

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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dapper kernel shinano says 22.84 per wave zuikaku 23.49 per wave shoukaku 20.95 per wave 23.4...

again

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wha'ts the problem

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stop shoving numbers at me and saying "help"

devout tartan Sep 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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https://youtu.be/eGpO9o_bmgc here’s a guide if you can read JP (or just guess based on the pictures)

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dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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that was the timing for 3 CV, we're currently forming the ship andequipment set

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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if you keep shoving numbers at me and asking for help I'm just going to tell you to use the calculator and leave

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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ahri whats missing and when?

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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I don't even know what the ideal strike times are for mouryuu standing still so I'm not gonna be able to just build you a setup from scratch

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I can check the pin in gph to see when she stands still but I don't actually know how long it takes for the ordnance to arrive

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so that doesn't really help me

devout tartan Sep 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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21.5-21.85 🙂

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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1st wave, shoukaku ryuusei hits, half of shinano hits and half whiffs. zuikaku whiffs entirely. 2nd wave zuikaku launches earlier than shinano and shinano hits only like 25% of ryuusei..

3rd the ryuusei from shinano hits perfectly

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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devout tartan 21.5-21.85 🙂

that's only first strike tho, right?

devout tartan Sep 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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that’s the strike timing you wanna see in the gear selection screen

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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dapper kernel 1st wave, shoukaku ryuusei hits, half of shinano hits and half whiffs. zuikaku w...

did you try targeting the number yuni provided earlier

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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yeah ahri might be too fast

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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devout tartan that’s the strike timing you wanna see in the gear selection screen

so 21.60 -> 21.95 on the calculator

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since I add the 0.1

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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shinano says 22.84 per wave
zuikaku 23.49 per wave
shoukaku 20.95 per wave

so the biggest problem is i have to tone down shoukaku while have to make zuikaku and shinano faster?

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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according to yuni, ideally you want them all to be between 21.60 and 21.95

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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dapper kernel shinano says 22.84 per wave zuikaku 23.49 per wave shoukaku 20.95 per wave so ...

how much RLD tech do you have

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are they all 120

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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7 reload

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all is 120

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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is only your shinano oathed? is she 200 affinity?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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shina only oathed

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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heady lava since I add the 0.1

Maybe mentioning that on the calc page itself might be helpful? Thinkpitz
If you don't already mentioned it and I'm dum and missed it lul

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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wispy cliff Maybe mentioning that on the calc page itself might be helpful? <:Thinkpitz:4707...

I don't but I don't think it needs mentioning

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I only said that because yuni provided in-game numbers

devout tartan Sep 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Going too slow or too fast makes you whiff the 1st, going too fast makes you whiff the 3rd, the 2nd is the least strict so if you’re whiffing anything vs that one then you’re like super off on the timings

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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in-game numbers also don't take into account anything else like RLD buffs from indep or casablanca or nagato

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so I don't really find them to be useful

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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that doesn't matter here tho

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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sure, but I'm just telling ghost why I don't say "in-game is wrong use this one instead"

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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ah yeah fair

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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Aye

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:42 PM

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If you're trying to hit 21.60 on shoukaku there's a number of ways to do it

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:42 PM

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if using your calc, 21.26 shoukaku, 22.45 shinano and 22.76 shoukaku

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:42 PM

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stop shoving numbers at me

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:42 PM

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try replacing the fulmar with the firefly

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:43 PM

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that's the first launch, im not trying to shove in the numbers

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:43 PM

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that's shoving numbers at me

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:43 PM

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How does Shōkaku look if you put the rockets on her instead of Shinano?

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:43 PM

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telling me what you have on the final results of the calculator without telling me what you input is just saying "it doesn't work"

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which is not useful information

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If you're trying to go just over 21.60 here's an example setup that works

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there's a lot of them that work

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:44 PM

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21.15 second in game for shoukaku if switching pirate to rockets from 20.95

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:44 PM

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And what's that in calc

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:45 PM

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ahri screenshot the area then post like what bomb did instead of just saying it in text

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ChampyXD

devout tartan Sep 25, 2021, 8:45 PM

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You guys have fun I’ve posted the sweet spot ShiSleep

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:46 PM

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dapper kernel 21.15 second in game for shoukaku if switching pirate to rockets from 20.95

I'm not sure what part of this is a difficult concept

devout tartan Sep 25, 2021, 8:46 PM

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Dunno how hard it is to just mess around with planes until you hit the sweet spot

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:46 PM

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yelling me what you have on the final results of the calculator without telling me what you input is just saying "it doesn't work"

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which is not useful information

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here's another example

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assuming +7 tech, as above

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:46 PM

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btw should i switch the seconds with in game plane numbers or not?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:47 PM

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just screenshot the calc page

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its not that hard PortDoll

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:47 PM

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you could potentially try reading the advice that people gave you

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we've been over this already

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:47 PM

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What's your torp bomber on Shōkaku again I forgot

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:47 PM

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bomb knows how to translate calc page numbers into game time thats not an issue

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:47 PM

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you don't need to translate calc page numbers

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:48 PM

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or interpret it my bad

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:48 PM

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there's no interpret it

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just

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fucking

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between 21.60 and 21.95

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there's no "interpret"

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there's a specific range you want

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we gave you that range

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there's no interpreting

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you want all the strike times in that range, with shoukaku being first

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play around with the calculator to make that happen

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:48 PM

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heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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and don't fucking post "oh I used the calc and got this number not in that range"

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jsut

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fix it

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holy shit

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Ryūsei

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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use ryuusei over saiun and see what happened

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Try Ryūsei

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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at first in here was suggested saiun. so i did use it...

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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its not working so you gotta change it

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saiun was suggested cause you want shoukaku to be fast, but now shes too fast

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so gotta adjust

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:50 PM

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@heady lava quick reminder to please not post NSFW comments

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:51 PM

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fine

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this is like chewing on pinecones while playing league of legends

devout tartan Sep 25, 2021, 8:51 PM

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you get used to it

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:52 PM

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im not trying to be an idiot or anything

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:52 PM

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dapper kernel

well for starters all the numbers in the calculator are wrong

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why are you overriding the known plane cooldowns with things they are not

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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did you set something as oathed when its not?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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i thought the FR numbers in the game is the one instead of the numbers in calc already set

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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numbers in calc are fine

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Use calc

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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game numbers on equipped planes individually are wack

heady lava Sep 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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the calculator already takes reload stat into account. that's why it asks

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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use the calc

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 8:59 PM

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shoukaku

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shinano

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zkk

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Okay so let's try faster again ig

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Sweet spot is 21.6 to 21.95

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:01 PM

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only one faster than fulmar is comet?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Nvm that

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What does Junkers look like on Shōkaku

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In the calc

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:02 PM

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0.2 second faster overall

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:03 PM

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use beacon shoukaku

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then whats the number?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:03 PM

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Beacon with Ryūsei

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:03 PM

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dapper kernel only one faster than fulmar is comet?

fulmar is fastest

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:04 PM

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I misread and thought he changed Shōkaku DB lol

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Mb

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:04 PM

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beacon ryuusei is 21.16
becaon junker 20.96

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Okay that's a little fast

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:05 PM

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what about firefly junker beacon?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:05 PM

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What's beacon with helldiver look like

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We're after 21.6 to 21.95

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:06 PM

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gritty geyser what about firefly junker beacon?

21.92

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:06 PM

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in the range but too slow for shinano/zuikaku

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:06 PM

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wispy cliff What's beacon with helldiver look like

beacon helldiver 22.30

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Yah too slow

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Hmm

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:06 PM

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dapper kernel 21.92

rocket firefly saiun beacon?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Okay
Asking if you have any gold IJN boxes

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:07 PM

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gritty geyser rocket firefly saiun beacon?

21.36

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:07 PM

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rocket firefly saiun no beacon?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:07 PM

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Yeah that's still lil fast

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:07 PM

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wispy cliff Okay Asking if you have any gold IJN boxes

currently i ran out of boxes

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i'll re-invest on boxes again

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:07 PM

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oh wait thats too slow my bad

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:07 PM

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Rocket Comet Ryūsei what's that like in calc

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:07 PM

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and get the stuff i need starting tomorrow

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btw there's no comet option in DB

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:08 PM

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what about suisei?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:08 PM

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gritty geyser oh wait thats too slow my bad

Sweetspot is 21.6 to 21.95

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:08 PM

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yeah without beacon is 22+

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Comet = Suisei

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:08 PM

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12 or normal suisei?

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oh

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Try both

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:08 PM

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normal

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but yeah try both

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:09 PM

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with suisei 21.02 (rocket, suisei saiun beacon)

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:09 PM

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so rocket suisei ryuusei beacon is how fast?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:09 PM

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12A 20.80

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:09 PM

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normal?

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:09 PM

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wispy cliff Rocket Comet Ryūsei what's that like in calc

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dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:09 PM

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normal 21.02 suisei 12A is 20.80

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:10 PM

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You're doing with Saiun

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I said Ryūsei

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:10 PM

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yeah use ryuusei

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:10 PM

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ryuusei, 21.56 with 12 A
normal 21.79

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Normal is in range

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Hm actually real quick question

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Gimme Rocket Suisei normal Junker Beacon

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How's that look

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:11 PM

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21.59

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Mm ye let's use Rocket Suisei normal Ryūsei

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:12 PM

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actually lets use rocket suisei normal junker beacon

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since junkers drops closer, it should offset the .6 seconds

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Thinkpitz

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Aight

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Hmm

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:13 PM

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i think, idk for sure PortDoll

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Okay
Shinano with Junkers on TB slot what's that look like

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:14 PM

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btw since rocket now is on shoukaku

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whats the first slot should be for shinano

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:14 PM

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junkers suisei normal beacon shinano whats that?

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:14 PM

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double junkers?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:14 PM

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ye

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:15 PM

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with oath 21.16

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a bit too fast than shoukaku's setup

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:16 PM

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Put golddiver

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And tell me timing

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:16 PM

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22.11

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23.61, 45.71, 67.82

wispy cliff Sep 25, 2021, 9:17 PM

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Hmm.
What about Ryūsei x2 and Suisei beacon

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:17 PM

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21.42

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currently what i had in shinano is saiun gold diver ryuusei without beacon at 21.96

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:19 PM

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saiun golddiver junkers

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try that

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:19 PM

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CD 21.78 launch 23.28

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:20 PM

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perfect

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:26 PM

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for shoukaku i change suisei to fulmar and junker to ryuusei

so rocket, fulmar, ryuusei with beacon at 21.16

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now the biggest problem, zuikaku... i probably have to wait for core data to reset most likely @gritty geyser @wispy cliff

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for 2nd beacon

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:28 PM

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shoukaku shouldn't be at 21.16

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:29 PM

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dapper kernel 21.59

use whatever setup got you this on shoukaku

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:30 PM

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well... i guess i really need that suisei

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or another option is 831

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21.56

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@gritty geyser for zuikaku most likely i also need a beacon right?

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:33 PM

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yeah

dapper kernel Sep 25, 2021, 9:34 PM

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thanks a lot peeps... i'll get a bit of nap... then testing it out in morning

gritty geyser Sep 25, 2021, 9:34 PM

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RenownThumbsUp

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