#Tenshi Shimakaze regear
random adder
That should be alright for now. Whenever you get a purple repair tools, use that. You can get a better anti-air gun and torpedo too.
For now though you shouldn't have too many issues.
cinder spoke
The torps are still not very good tbh
random adder
It should be okay though. They can easily get better ones to use a little later.
Your gear boxes can give you quad mag or triple mag; I am pretty sure triple mag is better
in terms of the purple
cinder spoke
Just send ss of your highest rarity torps and AA guns if you want to further optimise anyway
wanton sky
I have the 5 and 4
random adder
Use the 4; it's better
wanton sky
random adder
Use that gold one
cinder spoke
Yeah use the gold quint
random adder
if you don't mind taking it off any other ships. It's the best non-homing auto torp
wanton sky
Huh?
cinder spoke
Is that Z23? She doesn't rly need it
wanton sky
The gold homing?
random adder
Its not homing
wanton sky
Is that Z23? She doesn't rly need it
Oh I see
random adder
but its better than the homing ones
wanton sky
Oh the normal ones?
random adder
yes the only yellow one you have
cinder spoke
Yeah, quint mags just have abysmal dmg
wanton sky
random adder
The triple magnetic is also good, but I don't know if its better than the gold quint
wanton sky
Like that?
random adder
Better. Can you show us your anti-air guns?
cinder spoke
Nah there's very few things better than normal gold quint
random adder
not entirely awful? Yeah a lot of those aren't great. You might just be fine sticking with what you have on her now.
wanton sky
Alr
cinder spoke
Hmm yeah just don't enhance those 76mm anymore tho they're pretty bad
wanton sky
76?
cinder spoke
But at your stage AA prolly doesn't matter that much anyway
wanton sky
Oh
random adder
The first purple ones you have
cinder spoke
How many points for core shop do you have?
wanton sky
0
cinder spoke
Rip
Do you have an FCR?
random adder
If you ever get purple/gold of these, I'd say they're most worth using, they're the only two good AA guns that aren't hard to obtain...
wanton sky
random adder
The one you have on Shima now is called the "roomba gun" its gold counterpart is only good on ships with exceptional AA like retrofitted San Diego and Isuzu.
wanton sky
Well not a lot cus I used on the 1.5k torp thing
cinder spoke
840 is enough, buy a white shell
random adder
You don't need the torp
wanton sky
The one you have on Shima now is called the "roomba gun" its gold counterpart is...
Wdym
wanton sky
840 is enough, buy a white shell
A white shell?
wanton sky
You don't need the torp
It was for shima cus it was UR
cinder spoke
Yeah the white version of what you have on NJ rn
wanton sky
The anti-air gun you got on Shima. I was explaining it to you
Oh I see
So it’s good just not in her?
random adder
The rainbow torpedo from the gear shop is only good for times when you know the ship won't die
wanton sky
Yeah the white version of what you have on NJ rn
Okay
cinder spoke
rainbow torps are rarely used overall
random adder
or on torpmeme if you plan to play on manual
cinder spoke
white/black shells are far more important
random adder
white/black shells are the best use of your core
random adder
those two things and Independence since you're a new player
I don't think it works in threads, since that's the command
cinder spoke
Ah ok
wanton sky
wanton sky
those two things and Independence since you're a new player
Oh I have independence since her retro is hawt
random adder
That looks good right now, if you have a fire control radar, it might be worth swapping it out for the purple white shell
random adder
I don't have any so I'll have to look it up, if you're having trouble finding it
random adder
Are you using her?
wanton sky
Uhhh yesn’t
random adder
If you are in another fleet, it shouldn't matter too much, just remember if you get another to replace the purple white shell
wanton sky
Oh
random adder
I'd recommend leveling Independence though, shes an amazing carrier to have
wanton sky
wanton sky
I'd recommend leveling Independence though, shes an amazing carrier to have
Better than akagi and kaga?
cinder spoke
I'd probably replace it, Warspite has amazing hit anyway, kinda forgot about NJs hit
random adder
Depends kind of. I'd say overall yes
Akaga still very good in chapter 13 in mob fleets. I'm not sure how they stack up outside of that space. Independence would be nice for your boss fleet.
random adder
Do you use two fleets?
wanton sky
Yea
random adder
Mob fleet clears everything to make the boss appear; and the boss fleet takes out the boss only
cinder spoke
Independence is more of a mobber tho
random adder
Yeah. So that's why I said I am not sure
random adder
If you have another carrier that would benefit from Independence; then you should have two ships that are better than Akaga
If not; you'll be fine sticking with them two
random adder
Yeah I don't see anyone right away, unless you have a few good ones at level 1
Do you have Perseus?
wanton sky
Woah
cinder spoke
Hmm well doesn't make sense to plan your w13 fleet now 
random adder
Yeah
wanton sky
W13?
random adder
I'm just trying to help them understand some other ships they could be using
I guess right now it doesn't really matter though
wanton sky
Okay
wanton sky
You should be fine with NJ+Akaga for the most part
I don’t have akaga
random adder
Yeah don't use Eugen. She's just a tank and doesn't deal much of anything for damage.
wanton sky
Yeah don't use Eugen. She's just a tank and doesn't deal much of anything for da...
But the ara ara tho-
So I replace her?
random adder
I guess if you want to use her; I cannot stop you, but yeah. Portland retrofit would be the easy choice
wanton sky
Oh
cinder spoke
I mean if you like her, you can carry her to 120, but a different ship would do better
wanton sky
She doesn’t suck?
wanton sky
Oh
cinder spoke
Oh you can use all ships in this game as long as you want to
random adder
Yeah.
wanton sky
Can Belfast replace her?
cinder spoke
And she's not totally bad, great at tanking. She just deals no dmg
random adder
Yeah. I think most people would be worth replacing her over, unless they cannot tank at all
wanton sky
Oh I see
cinder spoke
Mmh Belfast isn't rly a tank
random adder
Yeah. It mostly just depends on if you lack a tank. Portland IS a tank, just unlike Eugen Portland has great damage output too
wanton sky
But her smokescreen helps dodge right?
cinder spoke
Portkai would be the most sensible replacement I see on your dock pic
wanton sky
Ohhh
cinder spoke
Oh smokescreens aren't as good as they sound sadly
wanton sky
Dam
random adder
Yeah. There's only one ship I know of with an effective smokescreen. Though its more useful for exercises
cinder spoke
They only cover a tiny area and usually auto moves out of it instantly
wanton sky
I see
random adder
Yeah. Right now though, just use whoever you want; you'll hit a wall and then realize you need better ships. I'd advise to level better ships now, so its much less of a problem later, but it is whatever you want to do.
cinder spoke
Yep
random adder
Yeah. You already have her leveled a good bit though.
cinder spoke
Although better ships than Portland do exist^^
random adder
Yeah. Just from your screencap she seems like the most viable option for you
cinder spoke
For example Chikuma from this event is one of the best tanks there are
wanton sky
I also heard that there’s a lot of planes so I kinda prepared deigo
random adder
You're a long ways off from that
cinder spoke
Sandy is a great ship even when AA isn't needed
wanton sky
For example Chikuma from this event is one of the best tanks there are
Oh I see
random adder
Sandy is very good all around yes
wanton sky
You're a long ways off from that
I’m on chap 7 so not yet?
random adder
Yeah; not even close
random adder
Hopefully you'll be faster than me, but it took me a year to get to 13 from just chapter 7.
random adder
You're lucky since you have better ships now, and 13 is way less of a challenge, but yeah.
I played a lot, I just made a lot of mistakes.
wanton sky
Oh I see
cinder spoke
I'm still not done with w13
random adder
Not using the protocore I got from catchup on good battleship AP guns
cinder spoke
But that's just cuz I'm lazy af
random adder
Barely doing any PR research for guns, etc.
Yeah when I was playing Indep didn't have a retrofit, and we didn't have ships like New Jersey or San Fran, so W13 was a lot harder; it used to have encounters too like in the other stages, and one bad one could end your run
wanton sky
Btw how do I get tech point?
random adder
Btw how do I get tech point?
Obtaining ships, limit breaking them, and eventually; 120ing them
wanton sky
Wow that’s a lot…
random adder
Each one gives you points from those things
So like... for Shimakaze; you get some for getting her, you get some from max limit breaking her, and then more when she is 120
wanton sky
Oh
random adder
I'm gonna assume in total it'll be like 100 tech points for just her. Since that's how it is for Shinano
cinder spoke
Shimakaze tech pts are sad
random adder
oh yeah...
cinder spoke
obtain: 18
MLB: 36
120: 27
random adder
I just looked; its 18 for obtaining her as opposed to 26 for Shinano
random adder
compred to other UR's not really
Destroyers don't give that many tech points compared to others
You'll get there eventually though, dw.
random adder
Like I said; for tier list, try to read descriptions. Some t0 ones might be useful in some instances while maybe even a T2 might be better for you given your fleet composition.
it all just depends on what you need.
cinder spoke
Btw /catchup is probably also something you wanna read at some point before you waste precious protocores
random adder
^ Yeah. I made the mistake of using it on gear I shouldn't have. Please dont make the same mistake as me lol
cinder spoke
Oh I'm not sure if that's specified on /catchup^^
random adder
Oh
When you do get Pr1 ships, I would recommend only 7 blueprints a day. Maybe it would be more for newer players though.
wanton sky
Huh?
cinder spoke
I think newer players rather can spare less gold
wanton sky
Ye I only do that much
random adder
The PR ships. When they did this new PR2 catchup; PR1 ones you can now buy
random adder
Yeah that's definitely worth it for Monarch. She's pretty good
random adder
Yep
wanton sky
Alr
random adder
She's better for late-game/operation siren stuff, but yeah. Overall she's great
random adder
You need those coordinates. You get 100 and then it prompts you to fight the boss.
random adder
You can fight her that way twice, but then you can fight the dailies three times on top of that.
cinder spoke
Best way to get coords is to just do port missions/grind already secured stages
random adder
You can challenge her as many times as you want until she dies for the 2 boss fights you get from the coordinates. It doesn't use THAT much oil
The best ways to get it is the daily missions from the port, and those hidden stages.
wanton sky
That?
random adder
I don't have any so I cannot show you what they look like
They're usually shrouded in purple/red clouds.
wanton sky
Oh
cinder spoke
I recommend you to farm at least 25k sync points, it's pretty easy
Disagree, hidden stages are much slower than secured stages
random adder
Idk; I get almost 70 each time, just for two battles
wanton sky
Also should I remove the Ur torp and pull it on shima?
random adder
I guess in terms of speed yeah, its probably slower than just hopping from stage to stage.
random adder
Also should I remove the Ur torp and pull it on shima?
It depends on if she has trouble dying, if she doesn't you don't have to yet.
random adder
You'll know when you have to remove it, when she starts constantly dying
wanton sky
Oh I see
random adder
Destroyers admittedly aren't the best to use on auto for that reason, they tend to die a lot
random adder
It's fine to use them right now
cinder spoke
Pre w10-13 won't rly matter tho
random adder
If you plan to play on Manual, than Shima will be a good investment
At least; just for boss manualing
cinder spoke
Yeah, just enhance that white shell and with lower prio the fcr
wanton sky
Okay
cinder spoke
Also the secondary for NJ isn't optimal but good enough for now
random adder
What is optimal? The gear lab one. The other ones seem to suck
wanton sky
Ah I see
random adder
Just leave the secondary on her though. I've been using that one since I got her
wanton sky
Okay
cinder spoke
What is optimal? The gear lab one. The other ones seem to suck
Oh some event ltd are also better cuz higher FP stat, but well you kinda want them elsewhere cuz event ltd
cinder spoke
You're welcome^^