#Electriko help
plain tundra
ye and show us what you used in w12
prime sandal
You will probably want to 120 most of your ships. 115 average might get you past 13-4, but only with really good gear.
Guess it depends on who your tanks are though.
amber scaffold
@proud yarrow You still here?
amber scaffold
No need for imgur if you start a thread
prime sandal
Yeah, I see a huge problem already, you barely have any carriers leveled. They're pretty much the only ships you should be using outside of NJ
amber scaffold
Those are fleets, he may have more
amber scaffold
That did it, and yeah, you have a serious lack of leveled CVs
prime sandal
My point still stands. You don't have too many CVs leveled
plain tundra
ye if AA botes saved you in w12, that won't do in w13 with the carpet planes
you need CVs
prime sandal
Level up Illustrious more and put her in your mob along with Independence if you want to use her for mobbing. I think a boss of Enty/Shinano/NJ should work just fine.
Obvously for mob, Percy should be your other carrier.
amber scaffold
Shinano/Nagto/Amagi might work for a boss fleet, which leaves Percy, Enty and Ticon for your mob fleet, but I don't really like that option
plain tundra
Independence mob + other CVs would be great for mobbing, including independence's cross fleet buff
prime sandal
It's more viable imo to just do two carriers in boss. Without that anti-air they gave, my vanguards were squishy as hell.
Except Sandy.
amber scaffold
I'm using NJ/Monarch/Centaur for my boss fleet and was able to beat 13-3
prime sandal
I did use Yukikaze in my mobbing too. Not an awful option, but she won't help with damage. Though in my case; I didn't really need her damage, and she was my only option so.
proud yarrow
So, Illustrious/Independence/Perseus for mob and Enty/Shinano/NJ for boss would be okay ?
prime sandal
Yes
amber scaffold
I just ran Anchor at 108 in my mob fleet, and she died after killing 9 mobs. Then I found out she didn't have any auxes
prime sandal
Another tip; avoid level 3 battleships and level 3 carriers
if you start a stage and that's all that spawns to start off with; reset.
Better to waste 10 oil than to waste hundreds to see if you can clear it or not.
plain tundra
ye put independence on flagship mob to get the juicy buff NJ has
proud yarrow
Nice, understood. And what about my vanguards? are them okay ?
amber scaffold
Oh man, I didn't even think about the NJ buff for Indep. I just had her there incidentally.
prime sandal
I didn't even think about vanguards
amber scaffold
Boss fleet you'll want Sandy, Helena, and a tank, but I don't really see a good tank for you
prime sandal
From what I can tell, you might need to level a lot of ships.
He's got San Fran, he could level her.
plain tundra
ye that San Fran lv100 needs to lvl up
prime sandal
You could also use Portland too when you level her. She would make a good mob or boss tank.
plain tundra
if you also have a balti, level her
amber scaffold
I guess Eugen could work, but I'd rather see someone able to do more damage
prime sandal
Roon Muse would be alright, but in my experience she was pretty squishy
amber scaffold
Mob fleet you have Sirius at 100, I might try using her.
plain tundra
Roon Muse would be alright, but in my experience she was pretty squishy
which part? 
prime sandal
13-3/4 boss xD
I stopped using her in favor of Prinz Heinrich and had way better luck.
amber scaffold
I see you have Chesh at 99, what dev level is she?
prime sandal
Yeah Chesh could be good AA carry
prime sandal
Yeah you can definitely use her then
plain tundra
AMEN
proud yarrow
I could 30 her with blueprints i think
amber scaffold
If Cheshire is at least dev 25 I'd make her your boss tank, and then use Eugen or someone else for mob fleet.
prime sandal
You have two of the best AA ships, so you can AA carry on both fleets if you wanted. Just level Cheshire up.
Cheshire is that one good AA ship right?
plain tundra
man cheshire eats planes for breakfast
amber scaffold
Cheshire and Sandy are 2 of the best AA carries out there
proud yarrow
So this would be a really good fleet for bosses right? I just need to level them
prime sandal
Yeah, so you could easily do 13 if you leveled some ships up, you'd be in a way better position than me.
amber scaffold
I'd make Shinano your flag though
plain tundra
idk about helena at the offtank tho. she has a crucial role of staying alive to proc her debuff
amber scaffold
Yeah, Helena mid, Sandy OT would be the best. Helena makes the person in the off-tank position tankier as well
proud yarrow
(sandy allways photobombing the image xD)
prime sandal
If you don't have a bunch of sextuple bofors, putting the Twin 113mm on both Sandy and Cheshire is what I'd do.
amber scaffold
That's an amazing boss fleet BTW.
prime sandal
on everyone else I used quad bofors since accelerators done jack for me.
thorny kite
you could switch sandy out for a better dps as AA role is already filled
prime sandal
San Fran would be that better DPS
proud yarrow
I have relatevely good gear
prime sandal
You don't really need her for mob. Yes that looks fine.
amber scaffold
I'd make sure Shinano has a fighter in her first slot. The AA is more important than slightly more damage
prime sandal
On NJ put an AP gun on her if you have it. 13-3/4 will want that.
I used proto triple 410mm on her, because it was all I had; it got the job done.
If you have sexy gun, you most likely have the Champy gun too, and that's what I'd use.
thorny kite
btw what is the mob fleet?
proud yarrow
only the vanguard left
plain tundra
PUT NOSHIRO ON MAIN TANK
thorny kite
that's a pretty garbage fleet
plain tundra
backline is good, but the vanguard needs some revamping
thorny kite
alright lets start moving some units
amber scaffold
I'd make Noshiro your tank, replace Yukikaze with Sandy, and then you'd be good, assuming you're replacing Sandy with SF in your boss fleet
thorny kite
do you have aquila? ryuuhou?
plain tundra
thorny kite
pick one of them and replace illustrious
proud yarrow
but most of them underleveled sadly
what about Ticon ? is she good?
I have her at lvl 106
thorny kite
Mobs: Indep Percy Ryuuhou/Aquila(Fighter) Noshiro Sandy SaintLouis
Boss: NJ Enty Shinano Chesh Helena SanFran
yes she's good
amber scaffold
Double healer is nice, I have to say.
proud yarrow
So SF for boss and Sandy for mob is better than the contrary ?
thorny kite
sandy and chesh are both AA units
amber scaffold
With Cheshire and double carrier you aren't going to have a problem wtih AA
prime sandal
You really do not need double AA carry
thorny kite
chesh fills AA and tank that we'll go for dps
which brings sandy to mobs and we can rid lusty
for a better more dps mob fleet
prime sandal
Sandy alone deleted 85% of the planes for me
thorny kite
and better sustaining mob fleet
plain tundra
ye since your main problem in w13 is having your mob fleet stay alive to peekaboo the boss; your boss fleet is already solid.
amber scaffold
This is my current mob fleet I'm using for 13-3, if you want another example
proud yarrow
That way ?
thorny kite
rid lusty for aquila or ryuuhou
plain tundra
that 120 aquila tho mhmmmmmmmm
prime sandal
You really don't need to get rid of Lusty though tbh
prime sandal
I guess it would make more sense to use a ship for pre-loads/heals, but eh
amber scaffold
Ryuuhou and Aquila are both better carriers, if you're ok with spending the time to level them
prime sandal
I used muse illustrious though, and in my experience she's a lot better.
thorny kite
well duh
she's a dps lusty
i'm not saying illustrious is bad but with all these options she's not really needed and there are better options thanks to the switches made
proud yarrow
my ryuuhou is almost the same level than my lusty, so I can swap them
plain tundra
both are true honestly. if you can clear mobs faster with dps, then you wont really need too many AA carries to swat planes; if you dont have damage dealers for mob, then put ships with high sustainability skills like lusty
thorny kite
switching to aquila or ryuuhou takes care of both of those
plain tundra
amen
plain tundra
much better
proud yarrow
and this the boss one
thorny kite
all that's left is getting indep and ryuuhou to atleast 110
same for boss vanguard
115+ once you hit up 13-3 and 4
plain tundra
if you got too much oil to spare, do 12-4 runs to level them. but since we have an upcoming event, I say hold on to that thought
thorny kite
these ships who needs levels, keep them in mind and use them to farm the event if possible
proud yarrow
Okey, so apart from this is just a matter of level nice. I knew the fleets I was using werent good, I just slammed the most high-tiered ships in the english tier list
prime sandal
Tier list doesn't have much nuance if you look at it on a surface level
13-4 I'd argue kinda has its own meta in a sense.
thorny kite
meh it's lost its difficulty
prime sandal
well... still, its kinda its own meta. Ships like Isuzu/Sandy would kinda be Tier 0 since in that stage; they're very useful
thorny kite
that would just apply to all of w13
prime sandal
yeah. That's what I meant sorry
plain tundra
imagine if w14 is just another w13 with more planes big kek
thorny kite
it shifts into the focus of carries and AA and still follows that standard fleet building
proud yarrow
Okey guys, so thank you very much ! I was hardstucked at the 13-1 boss for much time. Now i will try to level those fleets. Thank you for your time !
prime sandal
Yw. You ever need any other help, we're always here lol
plain tundra
once you clear w13, go to trophy room, send a screenshot, and tag us
proud yarrow
Yeah, I just follow the tier list for gear
prime sandal
Wait til you get to OpSi and you need to level like... 20 ships
proud yarrow
once you clear w13, go to trophy room, send a screenshot, and tag us
hahaha will do !
prime sandal
You did that? You've helped me a lot
proud yarrow
Oh, so fuking good job. They are really usefull and clear to understand
plain tundra
alright that's enuf helping and more grinding for me. hope yall have a wonderful day