#skill math discussion
potent jewel
frail reef
🤔
scenic finch
Anyways so
The problem is that that skill doesn't make up for Indianapolis stats
daring wagon
imagine the horror of calculating Laffey's average reload stat
actually the worst thing
scenic finch
When Portland has better evasion (which is a big deal on a CA) and doesn't rely on a 8% chance to have that
lilac finch
Wait, whats easy about calculating Pamiat's skill 
Am I just over thinking it
daring wagon
just rebuild the game's engine and load in enemies' attack patterns ez
frail reef
In the fleet Indy + Porty it is better to put Indy as tank and Porty as offtank/mod with full dmg aux because Porty has 23 FP more and she gains buff from Indy
lilac finch
Not sure what the average amount of times a tank gets hit in a second is
daring wagon
really tho you could sample how often damage is taken by ships in general and then apply that figure over 10s to see how likely she is to reach maximum uptime on the skill during its cooldown duration.
keen stirrup
In the fleet Indy + Porty it is better to put Indy as tank and Porty as offtank/...
In the fleet with indy+port it's better to remove indy and put london or something off tank because she just does more damage
scenic sphinx
you know what sucks? Port's dmg
scenic finch
Portland outright has better survivability
And you want the better survivability in the main tank position
Because if Indianapolis dies whatever you have in the middle becomes much more vulnerable
daring wagon
"indy is if you took baltimore's base build and removed everything good about her"
scenic sphinx
even if you account Fumo + fcr, proper gun CA still outdmg her by a mile
frail reef
But Indy can survive even with Stearing + FCR 🤔
lilac finch
CN just assumes Pamiat will have 1/3 invulnerability which seems like just a guess
scenic finch
you know what sucks? Port's dmg
Also yeah Portland damage isn't worth buffing. Just use something that does more
scenic sphinx
where are you taking her to
frail reef
What do you do wrong that you have no DMG from Indy and Porty?
scenic sphinx
and don't tell me you manaul because even lv1 Mutsuki no gear can survive in manual
scenic finch
You're on manual, correct?
A lot of things survive in manual. Most people asking for advice use auto, and Indianapolis's survivability is noticeably worse.
scenic sphinx
Port does dmg, but it's not even comparable to proper gun CAs
daring wagon
CN just assumes Pamiat will have 1/3 invulnerability which seems like just a gue...
they might've also gone the other way round and compared Pamiat's practical application to how they know other ships do and then got the value for the invulnerability that way. There's a lot of ways to address this problem and the only obstacle really is the data collection to make it reasonable.
scenic sphinx
let me list one, Roon muse
frail reef
You're on manual, correct?
A lot of things survive in manual. Most people asking...
Not only manual. Everything except bosses are on auto
daring wagon
i.e. if she tanks as well as Roon or whatever what value of invulnerability would make that accurate
lilac finch
I suppose that would make more sense than beginning with and testing guesstimates
daring wagon
i don't find it hard so much as tedious, but i wouldn't say it's easy either
frail reef
let me list one, Roon muse
Should I do test on HelenaM right now? But I'm not sure I have no screenshoted results for Room, but it was something like 110K
lilac finch
I'm curious in figuring out how many hits taken per second reaches that 1/3 figure tho
daring wagon
Laffey's reload tho. you just gotta crunch the numbers and the variables affect each other and it's really gross