laffey vs ams

[shadow verge]

Rhdndnd

[terse flax]

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[coral citrus]

Laffey

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anything I should change

[terse flax]

yeah id take laffey

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I’m doing a dps comparison

[terse flax]

give them both the exact same gear if you are

or just unequip the AA guns in general if you are worried about that affecting dps

[shadow verge]

there’s no planes in 11-4 boss is there

[oblique grail]

But Sumner needs eagle gear for that 15% torp

[dawn gust]

twin 114 Laffey or no balls

check the buff uptime too

[cloud nexus]

id rather test with twin 134mm

[shadow verge]

better?

[cloud nexus]

better ig, tho that isnt really laffey's BiS since she is fcked by fast gun

do 2 test with same gun then their respective bis gun

[shadow verge]

respective bis being what exactly

[coral citrus]

Cute Allen skin

Twin 130mm

[cloud nexus]

laffey wants the slow twin 130mm

[shadow verge]

thank you I got the matching Ingraham skin

[cloud nexus]

she gers twin 114mm rof during her skill with twin 130mm

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I’ll just give laffey that then, I’d rather them both be BiS

[cloud nexus]

twin 114mm meanwhile is fcked due to diminishing further down in rld

and absolute cd

[shadow verge]

twin114 for Allen? Or tashgun

[cloud nexus]

twin 114mm

if you feel cheated you can try a 3rd test with inverse gear of the two

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run 1

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wait you didnt gimp the other people's gun ?

pretty sure those 2 can clear it on their own

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should I gimp Portland and Tosa guns? I didn’t think it’d matter/might be risky

run 2

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if they can finish sure

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run 3

run 4

run 5

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that 4 tho

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obviously sumner is inconsistent on auto but I feel like it’s fair to say their dps is comparable, no?

[cloud nexus]

ig

both are subject unreliability

[shadow verge]

agree

[cloud nexus]

laffey aint hitting all her aoa nor lining up the barrage

that is asking god to be kind

[shadow verge]

with comparable dps + tankiness and utility I think AMS is t0

@dawn gust what do you think

[cloud nexus]

if you wanna prove T0

then suzu is your opponent

[shadow verge]

she won’t beat Suzu

[cloud nexus]

exactly

[shadow verge]

T1 damage though + AA and utility is a pretty good sell I feel

[cloud nexus]

suzu is the base for T0

or extreme light dps like tash

[dawn gust]

yeah i do know Allen is pretty good but pretty sure the original was Ingraham

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the issue is

[dawn gust]

but i acknowledge this one

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ectl doesnt want to make a higher base

look at the fcking t1

[dawn gust]

T1 is too fucking crowded

[cloud nexus]

theres clearly better those

CN wise

laffey is T2

AMS is T1

Suzu is T0

a much better showcase

than ectl's pepega t1 both, suzu t0

[shadow verge]

I’d agree with that tiering as well

Mainly I think both Ingraham and AMS are better than the starters rather than a sidegrade

[cloud nexus]

btw kita and tash are 0.5 in NGA

not universally bs like suzu so yeh

[shadow verge]

I can’t really test Ingraham yet but I think she’ll be able to hang dps wise, and has more utility

[dawn gust]

CN gave up on DDs so eh

[cloud nexus]

they still care

[dawn gust]

mostly whoever most well rounded = higher tier

[cloud nexus]

kaza wont be up there

nor ayanami

[dawn gust]

Kaza is up there

[cloud nexus]

even marie is up there

you just have to be exceptionally good

cuz you are taking the slots of a cruiser

blame the devs

[shadow verge]

AMS class are basically cruisers

[cloud nexus]

nah

if you do that ill subject you to vs seattle

goodluck

[shadow verge]

[cloud nexus]

seattle is closest thing you can compare to ams

since both did put in AA, instead of all bs like mainz

[terse flax]

tbf

[cloud nexus]

remember the time

when slime was the leader