DheeRex W10

[warm swan]

@random urchin alright, post the screenshots in here

[red saffron]

Can you also show us both fleets? I think we can make it even better

[random urchin]

those are all my vgs

[warm swan]

i'm honestly confused which fleet is which

[red saffron]

This to be honest. I only have 2 fleet most of the time

[random urchin]

posting pls wait

[red saffron]

Yeah. Sorry

[young shore]

Pretty good stuff

[random urchin]

i throw them in random fleet when i farm 1:1

so my formations are a mess

[red saffron]

Given enough time and effort, you can make really powerful ships

You know what... maybe remove all the formations you have?

[random urchin]

sure

[red saffron]

Wait

before that

[warm swan]

lets see what we're dealing with in terms of formations

[red saffron]

can you show us your Boss fleet?

[young shore]

[random urchin]

main dmg dealer = NJ

[warm swan]

that's fantastic already, the only adjustment i'd make is put helena center

[young shore]

That's pretty good

[ancient glade]

There's also no tank for now. Balti isnt a tank

Even Sandy is tankier.

[random urchin]

i ran this in meta fight and my backlines did almost no dmg

[warm swan]

i mean balti could do a job but not exactly the best for it

[random urchin]

except NJ

[warm swan]

would she survive jintsuu? probably not

[ancient glade]

She'll not be enough to tank in w12.

[warm swan]

one step at a time, he's doing w10

[ancient glade]

Will alrdy be hard. He really needs some actual tanks

[young shore]

He can still beat 11 with that comp

[red saffron]

I'll make you a Mob fleet. Your VV, Aquila, Uni + San Fran, Kirov, Belfast.

Anyone arguing if this is bad?

[warm swan]

tbf, i used baltimore to tank 13-4

[ancient glade]

SanFran for boss tanking instead.

[young shore]

Yeah

[ancient glade]

Boss, or Mob? cause i have doubts on Boss.

[red saffron]

IF Sanfrans needs to go to boss, replace San Fran with Portland in my suggestion

[random urchin]

i do not have alot of ca guns which is a problem for me

[warm swan]

i used baltimore to tank taihou, kek

[red saffron]

Not even Eugene Guns?

[young shore]

She can heal overtime so mob is more reliable, but her damage deal is pretty good

[red saffron]

The Gold German CA gun

[warm swan]

do you have the 203 mounted?

[ancient glade]

https://i.imgur.com/2G0KVKD.jpeg

[random urchin]

sanrui gun prototype 234 and eugen gun

and roon gun

[warm swan]

good enough i suppose

[ancient glade]

Also, he doesnt need to use port tbh, with sanfran and sanrui, he has both mob and boss tank

[random urchin]

got 2 washing machine

use on who?

[ancient glade]

Sanrui mob tank, San Fran boss tank, they get rudder.

[red saffron]

My eyes glossed over Sanrui. Thought she was missing a star

[warm swan]

nah he said she was f5

[random urchin]

she the only fs5 i have

[red saffron]

need to sleep. Hope you guys can fix things here

[warm swan]

leave it to us dude

[random urchin]

so for mob it's vv aquila uni

[red saffron]

Also, just use Rudder/Camo if needed :V

[random urchin]

sanrui bel and nimi?

[warm swan]

if that duca was ready, i'd put duca in

kirov or nimi remains to be seen

[ancient glade]

SanFran-helena-Sandy Boss vg (same backline as showed), mob is vv aquilla uni + Sanrui+Balti+ Kirov/Duca/Bel

[warm swan]

his duca unfortunately isn't MLB'ed tho

[ancient glade]

Duca would be best, but she aint ready sadly.

[random urchin]

so kirov or bel

both are 110

[warm swan]

he could just MLB her now, do the event for a few days with her in mob and she'll be ready

[ancient glade]

And big thing, fixing gear, especially the BB's by the look so far.

[random urchin]

my NJ is good i think except aux gun

and maybe aa

[warm swan]

AA you don't worry with till w12

[ancient glade]

well, the vv you showed was super suboptimal for w10.

[warm swan]

give me a sec to finish this map, i'm gonna SS an optimal VV quickly

[random urchin]

here is my nj

any fixes?

[ancient glade]

yeh, thats good.

[warm swan]

it's fine already, you can't really change that aux gun

[ancient glade]

this maybe, but bread gun's also fine

[random urchin]

need warspite?

in meta she deals so little dmg

[ancient glade]

what main gun?

[warm swan]

cause warspite's barrage is AP, helmet is light

[ancient glade]

aux gun to a cl gun.

one of those for both vv and for Warspite aux gun

[random urchin]

i need more core data

[young shore]

[warm swan]

there

[ancient glade]

tbf, nj is just far aboth anyone else on meta fight, so its no wonder. WS is fine, light is actually her strong suit, despite ap bara.

[warm swan]

those purple 152s

[young shore]

15

[warm swan]

you got 14 of em lying around, not the best for BBs but better than what you have for VV and warkai

[random urchin]

i kinda keep almost all the purple gear i got

[ancient glade]

for pure suicides/if they are your big problem, this one is very good.

[young shore]

Use those 152mm instead

[warm swan]

move down, lets see if you have the twin 152 before you commit

[young shore]

Ah yes

[warm swan]

you have 6 of em

[young shore]

You have 6 and 1 upgraded

[warm swan]

every battleship that can equip it should use one

unless your belguns are free

[ancient glade]

tho belgun is worse vs suicides, just provides better fp.

[warm swan]

still usable vs suicides

[ancient glade]

trying both with solo bb in suicide daily, its night and day dif still.

[random urchin]

I don't use Tallinn or yuubari so they're free

[warm swan]

also, i see you have 2 free tbtsks free

equip that on the CLs you use

[random urchin]

The one with gold are Cl I use

[warm swan]

yeah those golds aren't exactly good for vg which is the issue

the gun for belfast is unavoidable she needs HE

nepgun is fine already

why you may ask? cause the tbtsk has way better spread than anything else you have in there so no dps loss from stray bullets

[random urchin]

So who to change?

Only helena?

[warm swan]

helena, kirov

cause generally the CL guns that are used for battleships =/= CL guns you'd normally use for VGs

[random urchin]

Done

[ancient glade]

To add, you're aiming for diffrent things on your vg main gun vs the backline aux gun. vg wants focuse fire, backline aux the opposite

[warm swan]

you can use the gun from helena to one of your battleships

the only outlier to the rule is bismarch who just wants the tbtsk

[random urchin]

So vv?

[warm swan]

VV

[random urchin]

Will these help

[warm swan]

what are you trying to build?

[random urchin]

I don't understand planes

[warm swan]

actually lets see what you put on your carriers

ok, from scratch then

send me a screenshot of your enterprise/aquila/unicorn

[warm swan]

no changes needed

[ancient glade]

looks decent. Get aquilla's skills up tho.

[random urchin]

Ok

[warm swan]

it's already perfect, well, as perfect as you could make em at least

[ancient glade]

well, seafang -> Hellcat maybe.

[warm swan]

that's not a big upgrade, he could hold it off tbf

he needs the gold for other upgrades atm

put that +9 cuda on aqulia

[random urchin]

That all?

[ancient glade]

looks good yeh

[warm swan]

yep, the only upgrades you can do to it is either from gear lab or putting a pirate on the fighter

[random urchin]

What bb gun should I use on vv and warspite

[ancient glade]

406mk6 is your best for w10/11

[warm swan]

i don't see a 406mk6 in there...

[ancient glade]

since mk7 is alrdy on NJ

[warm swan]

use it, the mk6

[ancient glade]

The purple triple 406mk6 is generally the best HE gun. Only the mk7, and the triple 381 when at +12 beat it.

[warm swan]

for the barrage based ships, purple 410 is better

marginally, cause barrage based ships wants shots more often

[random urchin]

So which on which?

[ancient glade]

406mk6 on both vv and ws

[random urchin]

Ok

[warm swan]

neither of em are barrage based

so mk6

[random urchin]

Done

I'm almost at 800 core data

Should I buy black or white shell

[warm swan]

white, it's always white then black shell

[random urchin]

I got extra white shell purple

[ancient glade]

white+black is your go to for all BB's

[random urchin]

Or are those useless

[warm swan]

purple is poverty

unless it's helldivers or mk6

[random urchin]

Barracuda vs hell diver?

[ancient glade]

tb vs db. They are diffrent type of plane

[random urchin]

And what ship to level up now

[warm swan]

show us your backliners and we can say

[warm swan]

cause for frontliners, there's the clevelands, duca, azusa (may as well, you have just enough to MLB her), noshiro (when you get bullins)

i'd work with anyone you have at MLB first for backline

they're all decent

[random urchin]

So ticon iori?

And graf?

[warm swan]

graf

cause you need more carriers

then tico

[random urchin]

Do I have to build fox?

[warm swan]

actually, you don't have the gear lab torp bomber do you? in that case do tico first

[warm swan]

build fox?

[random urchin]

1st carrier division

Akaga

[warm swan]

don't see kaga in there

are you willing to grind 3-4 for her?

[random urchin]

Next to yorktown

And sara

[warm swan]

limit breaks please, i can't see em

[ancient glade]

yeh, he has both, but tbh, you have other good ptions

[warm swan]

actually, i need the limit breaks for that entire row

[random urchin]

1 and 2 lb

[warm swan]

put em off for now

[random urchin]

Nvm1

[warm swan]

i'd even put sara and ark ahead of akaga

mainly cause you can MLB and refit well before you can MLB both of them

[random urchin]

Ok

I need just 1 more sara

Or should I use bulin

[warm swan]

she drops often enough

[random urchin]

Does Sara drop from d3

[warm swan]

she does

[random urchin]

K I'll get her

[warm swan]

ark drops from D2

but ark is a lot more niche towards torp bomber nuke fleets

[random urchin]

I'll just use bulin for ark

[warm swan]

don't do it before the event ends

[random urchin]

K

Can I ask abt subs?

[warm swan]

cause you'll have to do the daily clear anyway so there's a possiblity you can get her

alright, what do you have?

[random urchin]

Almost none

Subs are nonexistent on my account

[warm swan]

honestly, i wouldn't know what to tell you

just use the gold subs you have

[random urchin]

K

Thx

[warm swan]

mainly cause i have no idea how good/bad the purple ones are, it takes so much time to actually level subs to 120 you know?

[random urchin]

Well I don't rrl have anything 120 except nj and sandy

So yea

[warm swan]

out of my 98 120s i have, do you wanna guess how many 120 subs i have?

[random urchin]

10?

[warm swan]

4

[ancient glade]

well, the best he has are Cava, I13, 101 and Nauti, the rest are all meh, and honestly, he doesnt really have any sub worthwhile investing in rn.

[warm swan]

yeah, not worth putting bullins in them for now

especially since he's short of em

[random urchin]

I did for 101 just so she can carry on the weekly sub mission

[warm swan]

you barely ever need subs, if you do, you're very desperate

and now you can just auto clear that

the only times i use subs is either w13 or opsi

[random urchin]

I think I'll be fine now tysm for helping me @young shore @ancient glade @warm swan @red saffron

[warm swan]

an interesting side effect of opsi...

[random urchin]

Well sry for the ping

[warm swan]

yeah, still at friendly

[ancient glade]

That affection tho

[random urchin]

Put her as secretary

[ancient glade]

I usually just 90 them via secretary and than use a bit on w12

[warm swan]

as i said, an interesting effect of opsi

got a bit of a backlog for my secretary slots atm

[ancient glade]

I mainly use secretary for ships i plan on oathing or subs

[random urchin]

I am still waiting for the lab thing to reset

i need like 3 more days

should i use the xp chip on fdg research once i start it?

[warm swan]

meh, just about every ship i either like or want them leveled will go through the secretary slot at some point

[random urchin]

how do i payfor fdg?

[warm swan]

?

[random urchin]

her cost is over my max coins

[warm swan]

oh

lets worry about her later

[ancient glade]

you can go over your soft cap with coins from commision, quest etc. or just get higher cmd to have higher coin cap.

[random urchin]

ok

[ancient glade]

fdg wont be any helpfull for you anyways. She needs 513 bps to be really worth using

[warm swan]

i mean you can go over the cap but be careful of how many coins you store

[random urchin]

wow thats alot

[warm swan]

and she costs 18 oil per use

[ancient glade]

19

[warm swan]

19

[random urchin]

does drake and agir cost the same?

[ancient glade]

Ägir and Azuma cost more

[random urchin]

i though vg are cheaper

[ancient glade]

Drake is 15 oil, Azuma and Ägir 16

All of those are vg

[random urchin]

wow that is expensive

then why do ppl use them

[ancient glade]

DR is the most expensive you'll get.

[warm swan]

cause they're very good

[ancient glade]

And oil doesnt matter in ops.
And yeh, while expensive, they are basically the best ships there are.

[random urchin]

so fdg at dev 20 is bad?

[warm swan]

should i link my opsi fleets and show you what i mean?

[random urchin]

yes

my opsi is ...

[ancient glade]

not worth using for her cost. She misses 1/3+ of her dmg till dev30.

[random urchin]

let's not talk abt them

[warm swan]

lets go over fleet 1 and 3 shall we?

[random urchin]

mine looks bad now

like rrl rrl bad

in opsi i only use 1 fleet

[ancient glade]

[warm swan]

i'm basically on 100% collection with 98 120s, so a lot of people's fleets look pretty bad in comparison

[random urchin]

quick question

how much u guys paid in this game?

just curious

[ancient glade]

monthly + lucky bag per month, so about 40 a month. Tho like 95% of that goes into skins and rings

[warm swan]

no idea, a few hundred

[random urchin]

dollars?

[warm swan]

dollars

but that mostly goes into skins and dock space

[random urchin]

i only bought lucky box once

[warm swan]

also, i've been playing since week 1

[random urchin]

i lost my week 1 account T_T

but i was just a beginner when i quit

[warm swan]

fyi that fleet 1 in my opsi would cost 83 oil per run outside

[ancient glade]

id honestly rather use fdg for mobbing than nj there too.

[random urchin]

meta fight anything to change?

[warm swan]

fleet 3 costs 88 oil per run

[ancient glade]

lacks a tank again, and level disadvantage hurting you really hard there. You really want 120s

Also, carriers arent ideal vs Helena as she's light armor

[warm swan]

warspite's barrage isn't HE so it doesn't really help...

[ancient glade]

her barrage is shit no matter the target.

[warm swan]

i'd link you my fleet, but there's no way in hell you can make it

[random urchin]

almost all the dmg comes from NJ

she deals 140k while the rest of main deal 40

[ancient glade]

thats pretty normal, even for higher fleets. for me she's doing ~40-50%

[warm swan]

actually, i could ask how i can stop my vg from dying

[random urchin]

that's expensive

[warm swan]

it's in opsi, cost isn't a factor

[ancient glade]

Azuma using vh? helena with manjuu, pearl to the first dieing (i assume Drake?) Azuma gets rudder+beaver

[warm swan]

zuma using vh

ah beaver then

ok

[ancient glade]

yeh, ditch vor beaver. The laser reck heavy hard.

[random urchin]

i don't have anything that can tank better than balti atm cuz of level

[warm swan]

and what do i use on drake?

[ancient glade]

I assume she's dead first?

[warm swan]

last

zuma always dies first

[random urchin]

my sandy survives until 20 sec left

[ancient glade]

Thats surprising well, rudder+ either another eva or box then prob.

[warm swan]

i had beaver on her, that's probably why

plus my zuma is the tank

[ancient glade]

There'd probably be better options than drake tho, she misses some dmg off tank. Aurora is extremly helpfull, especically to fdg.

[warm swan]

i don't have aurora at 120#

plus i don't really trust her to not die

[ancient glade]

I deceided against fdg in the end. Didnt find it to be better than what i have rn. 3 round setup with richi-nj-doy

[warm swan]

for you, we can't tell you very much, just try to get 71 points, manual if you have to

[warm swan]

hmm, interesting

if not drake nor aurora, then who?

[ancient glade]

record yet on assist. Chen has the same and got a couple 1mil too. Tho he has 13 drake gun.

[warm swan]

wait, boiler

i can do speed memes with it

[ancient glade]

Sanrui (with richi)beats drake vs light, vs offtank drake, might even do without.

[warm swan]

my sanrui, again, isn't 120

[random urchin]

i can change balti with sanrui should i?

but their lv difference is 10

[ancient glade]

You dont really have the options nor gear. It looks pretty good for now, and the meta will change to a new ship, with very likly a new meta against it too, in not to soon.

[random urchin]

ok cool

i am at 32k sync points atm do i still have to continue?

[warm swan]

you don't really have the luxuary like us to minmax unfortunately, i'm trying to get 600k dmg++ every run, so i'm trying to find ways for my vg not to die

i'm at 65k and i'm still going at it

[random urchin]

i started ops siren not so long ago

[ancient glade]

There'S very little to get after 25k. The rest are just some novelty /prep

[warm swan]

keep it up daily so it becomes a habit to do it

mainly cause when a new one comes, you might forget to do it everyday and fall behind otherwise

[random urchin]

i do it in online class

and i fall off on summer break

[warm swan]

takes 20mins

[random urchin]

i just let it auto

while i work

but when i go to school i don't think i can grind often as now

i gotta go sleep now

thank you guys so much

[warm swan]

night, and good luck

[ancient glade]

[random urchin]

[warm swan]

cosmic kicks, should i use that on drake while beaver is on azuma? @ancient glade

[ancient glade]

sure, worth a try

[warm swan]

it's eva and speed, so i think it is

i wanna see consistent 73s

[ancient glade]

Its extremly hard to fully survive. helena with manjuu has the highest chance to do so usually

[warm swan]

helena does have manjuu